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[ourmanflint]

Money league at CBS. Its a random public league.

Guy offers me Steelers D for Kareem Huggins.

I take it.

About 24 hours later he comes back and says he didn't mean to click Kareem Huggins. He meant to click Hakeem Nicks.

Trade goes thru with no objections.

I now have the Steelers D and he has Kareem Huggins.

He wants to trade back claiming he made a mistake.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

He should have been more careful.

 

[The_Wolfman]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

 

[ourmanflint]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

So you would give him the Steelers D back to make good?Standard CBS league with a flex. Random public league.

 

[werdnoynek]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Everybody's defensive scoring system is different, but since I would consider an offer of Nicks for a defense (ANY defense) highly insluting, I love the karmic justice being dished out against this guy. Unless he's a close friend of yours, keep his defense and rub it in further if he keeps complaining about it.

 

[werdnoynek]

Everybody's defensive scoring system is different, but since I would consider an offer of Nicks for a defense (ANY defense) highly insluting, I love the karmic justice being dished out against this guy. Unless he's a close friend of yours, keep his defense and rub it in further if he keeps complaining about it.

 

[gianmarco]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

You may want to reread the OP.

 

[Casting Couch]

Trade is complete.

Huggins and Nicks are not even close to each other on the roster list, so I don't know how he could make this "error".

Huggins for Steeler D is fair. Nicks for Steeler D should never be offered by anyone.

Karma says - Let trade stand.

 

[ourmanflint]

Everybody's defensive scoring system is different, but since I would consider an offer of Nicks for a defense (ANY defense) highly insluting, I love the karmic justice being dished out against this guy. Unless he's a close friend of yours, keep his defense and rub it in further if he keeps complaining about it.

 

[ponchsox]

If Cadillac Williams gets hurt he ends up with the better deal

 

[GloryDaze]

Unless you know the guy personally, this is no dilemma at all.

 

[TommyGilmore]

I'd rather have Nicks than Huggins or the Steelers D.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Money league at CBS. Its a random public league.Guy offers me Steelers D for Kareem Huggins.I take it.About 24 hours later he comes back and says he didn't mean to click Kareem Huggins. He meant to click Hakeem Nicks.Trade goes thru with no objections.I now have the Steelers D and he has Kareem Huggins.He wants to trade back claiming he made a mistake.WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

In a league amongst friends I would reverse the trade. In a public money league I think it's "buyer beware" and I keep the defense, especially after he tries to say he wanted Hakeem Nicks from your team for a defense (no matter how good it may be).

 

[The High Priest]

Well Here is how I see it.

It sounds like the other owmer messed up and clicked the wrong guy. I would trade back for Karmas' sake. You dont want any bad vibes at the begining of the season , and down the road you may beable to make trades with this guy and have the good guy edge.

...but thats just me.

 

[GregR_2]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

Yes, because everyone knows you should treat strangers much worse than you would treat someone you know. As opposed to, I don't know, treating everyone decently and showing good sportsmanship all the time.If you think the other owner is being honest, then trade him back. If you think he meant the trade offer he sent but just changed his mind and is lying about it now, don't.

 

[killrobotkill]

I say no. Almost every fantasy website has a system that, when you make a trade, waiver wire move, etc., takes you to a screen where you can see what you're about to do and confirm that the move you're making is correct. It's there exactly for this reason. I got burned in a fantasy baseball move about 10 years ago b/c I skipped this screen, but now I always stop and read carefully and make damned sure it's correct.

 

[Godsbrother]

If you want to be a nice guy then reverse it but I don't think you are morally obligated to do it.

 

[werdnoynek]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

You may want to reread the OP.

i did... the OP gave up huggins for the steelers D.

Money league at CBS. Its a random public league.

Guy offers me Steelers D for Kareem Huggins.

 

[Kit Fisto]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

Yes, because everyone knows you should treat strangers much worse than you would treat someone you know. As opposed to, I don't know, treating everyone decently and showing good sportsmanship all the time.If you think the other owner is being honest, then trade him back. If you think he meant the trade offer he sent but just changed his mind and is lying about it now, don't.

Living with your mistakes and learning from it, rather than crying about it and demanding a do-over, is also part of being a good sport.

 

[GloryDaze]

Offer a trade Steelers D for his best guy.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Money league at CBS. Its a random public league.

Just curious, not meaning any offense - do people really gamble $$$ in "random public leagues"? I assume this means you're thrown into a league with people you've never met, and you have no idea where they live or how to contact them. I don't think I'd trust anyone to pay up.Anyway. If this happened to someone I was friends with, I would have assumed something was wrong with the offer and called him/her up before accepting. But if it is a complete stranger in a public league, I would keep the PIT D and ignore any tantrums thrown because it really doesn't matter.

 

[Clifford]

Everybody's defensive scoring system is different, but since I would consider an offer of Nicks for a defense (ANY defense) highly insluting, I love the karmic justice being dished out against this guy. Unless he's a close friend of yours, keep his defense and rub it in further if he keeps complaining about it.

 

[ourmanflint]

Money league at CBS. Its a random public league.

Just curious, not meaning any offense - do people really gamble $$$ in "random public leagues"? I assume this means you're thrown into a league with people you've never met, and you have no idea where they live or how to contact them. I don't think I'd trust anyone to pay up.Anyway. If this happened to someone I was friends with, I would have assumed something was wrong with the offer and called him/her up before accepting. But if it is a complete stranger in a public league, I would keep the PIT D and ignore any tantrums thrown because it really doesn't matter.

Each owner pays CBS. They hold the money and pay out the winner after the championship.Thanks for your reply.

 

[Modog814]

Money league at CBS. Its a random public league.

Just curious, not meaning any offense - do people really gamble $$$ in "random public leagues"? I assume this means you're thrown into a league with people you've never met, and you have no idea where they live or how to contact them. I don't think I'd trust anyone to pay up.Anyway. If this happened to someone I was friends with, I would have assumed something was wrong with the offer and called him/her up before accepting. But if it is a complete stranger in a public league, I would keep the PIT D and ignore any tantrums thrown because it really doesn't matter.

Too many unknowns for me too, but I'd assume CBS collects the money up front.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Well Here is how I see it.It sounds like the other owmer messed up and clicked the wrong guy. I would trade back for Karmas' sake. You dont want any bad vibes at the begining of the season , and down the road you may beable to make trades with this guy and have the good guy edge....but thats just me.

except the bad clicking owner openly admitted that he meant to do was attempt to trade rape the OP by getting Nicks. To me, that's a guy I have no interest in trading with later anyway. I say the OPs karma account is free and clear here.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I've always lived with the mistakes I've made in life (and fantasy football) and dealt with any repercussions that my actions caused. Good or bad.

If I was the OP I'd tell the guy, "Oh well, you're SOL." If his most recent desire to reverse the trade is in fact true, what does that tell you about his thinking in the first place? Did he really think you'd give up Nicks for a defense? He was trying to pull a fast one on somebody he does not personally know and it bit him in the rear end. His mistake, his loss.

 

[humpback]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

Yes, because everyone knows you should treat strangers much worse than you would treat someone you know. As opposed to, I don't know, treating everyone decently and showing good sportsmanship all the time.If you think the other owner is being honest, then trade him back. If you think he meant the trade offer he sent but just changed his mind and is lying about it now, don't.

Part of the problem here is, since it's total strangers, he has NO IDEA if this guy made an honest mistake or is just having second thoughts. If it was a league of people he knew, he would at least have a better idea what the other guys track record or MO is.I'd leave it as is, it's not out of the rhelm of possibility that Huggins becomes more valuable than the Pitt D anyway.

 

[werdnoynek]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

Yes, because everyone knows you should treat strangers much worse than you would treat someone you know. As opposed to, I don't know, treating everyone decently and showing good sportsmanship all the time.If you think the other owner is being honest, then trade him back. If you think he meant the trade offer he sent but just changed his mind and is lying about it now, don't.

you make a good point, but it's pretty much the point i was making. given the ridiculousness of this re-offer it seems like BS to me... if it was someone I knew i'd be more likely to consider working this out.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I say no. Almost every fantasy website has a system that, when you make a trade, waiver wire move, etc., takes you to a screen where you can see what you're about to do and confirm that the move you're making is correct. It's there exactly for this reason. I got burned in a fantasy baseball move about 10 years ago b/c I skipped this screen, but now I always stop and read carefully and make damned sure it's correct.

This.The owner likely had, at minimum, two shots to read over their offer prior to hitting 'submit.' They still hit 'submit.'Whomever is commishing that league need to be prepared for each and every trade that goes down after this to be asked to be revoked, for whatever reason, if he lets this one get nixed. People are whiny in general. Even moreso when you add in the fact that they're 'faceless on the internet.' You want to worry about 'karma' or something, then get the commish to revoke it. I don't think you're morally obligated, nor should you feel bad about it if you'd rather not. The systems are in place to allow owners to make sure they aren't offering up boneheaded deals. He either chose to ignore it and is now having buyer's remorse, or he totally ignored it outright. It's on them. Not like you repeatedly offered them this deal hoping they'd slip up and eventually hit the 'accept' button.

 

[The_Wolfman]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

So you would give him the Steelers D back to make good?Standard CBS league with a flex. Random public league.

Oh sorry I read it wrong, I thought he wanted to trade you Nicks instead of Huggins I was like Either way, he should be more careful when offering a trade. You have ample opportunity to review a trade before it's sent. I could see it a little more if it was one of the Steve Smiths or Mike Williams but even then, it was his offer so its his responsibility. Tough luck I say.

 

[MikeApf]

Money league at CBS. Its a random public league.Guy offers me Steelers D for Kareem Huggins.I take it.About 24 hours later he comes back and says he didn't mean to click Kareem Huggins. He meant to click Hakeem Nicks.Trade goes thru with no objections.I now have the Steelers D and he has Kareem Huggins.He wants to trade back claiming he made a mistake.WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

It is simply not credible that you would have given up H Nicks for a defense. If he meant that, then asically, he was trying to take advantage of you, not offer you a "fair deal" and it came back to bite him. On the other hand, it is credible that someone would give up a sleeper for a defense. IF that's what he meant, then the deal was fair and it should be revoked simply cuz someone had "second thoughts."If you feel bad about it you could just void the deal entirely but honestly I think it's just tough luck on his part.

 

[brewer]

Offer to trade him your other defense for Kareem Huggins.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I'm surprised they even allow trades in those online money leagues. They're just asking for collusion.

 

[ponchsox]

This move isn't going to have a significant impact on either team. He needs to learn from his mistake so he doesn't give up a better player next time.

 

[GregR_2]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

Yes, because everyone knows you should treat strangers much worse than you would treat someone you know. As opposed to, I don't know, treating everyone decently and showing good sportsmanship all the time.If you think the other owner is being honest, then trade him back. If you think he meant the trade offer he sent but just changed his mind and is lying about it now, don't.

Living with your mistakes and learning from it, rather than crying about it and demanding a do-over, is also part of being a good sport.

How do you go from the OP saying, "he comes back and says he didn't mean to click..." to that equating to "crying about it and demanding a do-over"? Where did the OP say the other owner demanded anything?Unless you're just sensationalizing it to cast the other owner in a bad light to justify your own agreeing it's ok to treat people worse just because you're not acquainted with them.

 

[Kit Fisto]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

Yes, because everyone knows you should treat strangers much worse than you would treat someone you know. As opposed to, I don't know, treating everyone decently and showing good sportsmanship all the time.If you think the other owner is being honest, then trade him back. If you think he meant the trade offer he sent but just changed his mind and is lying about it now, don't.

Living with your mistakes and learning from it, rather than crying about it and demanding a do-over, is also part of being a good sport.

How do you go from the OP saying, "he comes back and says he didn't mean to click..." to that equating to "crying about it and demanding a do-over"? Where did the OP say the other owner demanded anything?Unless you're just sensationalizing it to cast the other owner in a bad light to justify your own agreeing it's ok to treat people worse just because you're not acquainted with them.

Living with your mistakes and learning from it is also part of being a good sport.Better?

 

[ourmanflint]

I'm surprised they even allow trades in those online money leagues. They're just asking for collusion.

All owners have 24 hours + to vote on every trade.Its a 12 team league. If 4 or more owners object than the trade goes to the commish.The commish in CBS public leagues is basically CBS. They rarely allow trades that get 4 or more objections. I don't believe I've ever seen it and I've played alot of leagues.I've seen a few questionable trades but none were allowed to go thru.

 

[Chairshot]

Unfortunately, there is no way to really know if the guy really did make a bone-headed mistake or is just experiencing buyers remorse.

I'd leave the trade as-is since it's a pretty fair deal. If you had accepted some sort of rip off deal that was obvious from the beginning, then I would say you should offer it back because it would be more clear that a mistake could have happened somehow.

Let the other owner know that you are open to discussing a trade for Nicks, if you want, but that you feel like Huggins for Pitt D is a fair deal, one that he offered, and you would rather let it stand. At least that's what I would do.

 

[GregR_2]

I don't know what your league scoring system is or what your roster looks like but it's hard to imagine a scenario where I'd rather have Huggins than Nicks.

the OP was the one giving up huggins for the steelers D. obviously no one in their right mind would trade hakeem nicks for the steelers D. because this is a random league and you likely don't know the person, i'd say tough luck buddy... it's a done deal.

Yes, because everyone knows you should treat strangers much worse than you would treat someone you know. As opposed to, I don't know, treating everyone decently and showing good sportsmanship all the time.If you think the other owner is being honest, then trade him back. If you think he meant the trade offer he sent but just changed his mind and is lying about it now, don't.

Part of the problem here is, since it's total strangers, he has NO IDEA if this guy made an honest mistake or is just having second thoughts. If it was a league of people he knew, he would at least have a better idea what the other guys track record or MO is.I'd leave it as is, it's not out of the rhelm of possibility that Huggins becomes more valuable than the Pitt D anyway.

I agree there's no clear cut way to tell the honesty of the other owner. Best you can do is decide for yourself and go with it.

 

[ourmanflint]

Offer to trade him your other defense for Kareem Huggins.

Excellent idea. I did and he accepted.I traded him the 49ers D for Huggins.

 

[Chigurh]

I'd trade back. You know that if you don't, Huggins will take over the starting job right before you play that guy and he'll go off for 25 points and you'll miss the playoffs because of it.

BTW, I would rather Huggins over the Steelers D anyway, so I wouldn't have made that trade in the first place.

edit -- Nevermind. Good deal.

 

[Godsbrother]

Wait until Monday and then say "aw shucks, I just got your email and now it is too late to reverse the trade".

 

[GoinDeep]

Be the bigger man. Reverse the trade and STILL kick his ace!

 

[brewer]

Offer to trade him your other defense for Kareem Huggins.

Excellent idea. I did and he accepted.I traded him the 49ers D for Huggins.

 

[wudaben]

Everybody's defensive scoring system is different, but since I would consider an offer of Nicks for a defense (ANY defense) highly insluting, I love the karmic justice being dished out against this guy. Unless he's a close friend of yours, keep his defense and rub it in further if he keeps complaining about it.

True but in our league Nicks for the Steelers D could be reasonable. Instead of giving tiered points such as 25pts for 0 pts scored, 20pts for 1-6pts, etc. what we do is start each defense off with 25pts and score -1 fantasy point for every 1 point scored against. D/ST also gets 6/TD, 2/FUM/INT & 1/Sack. Add this to having a add/drop limit of 8 for the whole season then it is conceivable that if you were to punt team defense on draft day that you could be getting negative fantasy points each week from your defense.

 

[BAY_AREA_GIANT]

Huggins and Nicks are not even close to each other on the roster list, so I don't know how he could make this "error".

The key is probably rewriting that sentence with their first names, not last. Most people know that even if he correctly proposed Pitts for Nicks, that no one with Nicks would accept that trade. I'm guessing he's new to FF (or perhaps the WWW) and got confused about what 'eem to dream about.

 

[netnalp]

I wouldn't trade back it's a fair trade.. In the trade window CBS lists players alphabetically. Would Huggins be right next to Nicks with your roster? CBS also asks you to confirm the trade you are doing and after that he could have withdrawn the trade before you accepted.