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SI swimsuit edition will have a plus-size model this year

I don't get it. Not that I give a hoot about whether she is hot enough or not, but I don't get the movement on big is beautiful too. We're supposed to be living in a time when obesity is unhealthy and people should want to strive to achieve a healthy weight. Seems like a double standard to celebrate curves.

Basically, I don't get women.
It's an excuse to avoid having to correct the problem and live in complacency, e.g. doing the heavy lifting (no pun intended) to eat better and workout more. Tables get turned on everyone else for judging women who are overweight. Overweight women scream loud enough, and people back off, possibly "celebrate" their fatness in fear of backlash for not being involved in the movement.
I don't think anyone would argue if you said that a chick who was 300 lbs. and was 5'3" was overweight and had a health problem that she needs to work on for her own sake...I think my thing here is that the definition of "healthy" is so skewed that the vast majority of the population is deemed "overweight." My issue isn't with the concept, but more with the cut-off.

I'm 5'11" and weigh 185 lbs. I'm considered "overweight." I've never been CALLED overweight by anyone who has ever seen me. I just think the scale is off. I'm NOT saying there aren't lots of people with major issues out there.
Fair point Nick, mine is a generalization that won't apply to all women who are overweight. Some women cannot control it via various medical issues, and that's fair, I realize that. I don't mean to poke fun at that subset of women.

My post above was specifically geared towards women who do not have a medical condition that makes it hard (if not impossible) to lose weight. Again generalizing, they seem to tend to scream the loudest when you don't celebrate the fact that they're overweight alongside them. Chastising them isn't necessarily the right way to get them to take a hard look at their eating and exercise habits and improve their health, but neither is celebrating the fact that they are overweight along with them so that they don't have to dig in and do the hard work to resolve their situation.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, esp. the bolded part. "Big girl syndrome." They're the ones who just come out and say, "I'm a big beautiful woman," and then just start downing burgers and cokes and get mad if you insinuate that's why they're bigger.

 
brony, JJ Watt would be considered plus size. You think he is overweight or obese?
I haven't commented on this particular model being obese or overweight. SI is not the first campaign celebrating obesity/big boned/overweight/above average BMI. I really have no interest in this model or JJ Watt being obese or overweight or whatever term you want to put on it.

I just find it odd that in a time when there are many headlines highlighting the country's obesity problem, there are campaigns celebrating being overweight. No problem if I'm the only who finds that odd. It won't be the last time.
Find some more. This sounds like a "War on Christmas" thing to me.

 
Also, for the first time in history there are more fat women than men in this country. And this is accelerating.
Really? I actually find this surprising. I would've thought that historically there would've been more overweight women then men...mainly because I feel like more men are active as part of their profession than women.

 
People get that size 0 or size 2 is not "normal" size either, right? And that in a society with eating disorders, we pretty much only show size 0 and size 2 on magazine covers. Some people point that stuff out, but nobody listens to them.

If we're really worried about obesity, we might consider that showing a healthy size 12 might seriously motivate someone who has no chance of ever being a size 2 to try to become a healthy size 12.

 
The most frightening thing about this is that it may give motivation for size 12 women to put on a bikini and go the the beach.

 
Also, for the first time in history there are more fat women than men in this country. And this is accelerating.
Really? I actually find this surprising. I would've thought that historically there would've been more overweight women then men...mainly because I feel like more men are active as part of their profession than women.
Back in the day, obess women by today's standards were considered hot.

 
Also, for the first time in history there are more fat women than men in this country. And this is accelerating.
Really? I actually find this surprising. I would've thought that historically there would've been more overweight women then men...mainly because I feel like more men are active as part of their profession than women.
Back in the day, obess women by today's standards were considered hot.
I blame Peter Paul Rubens.

 
SI swimsuit edition will have a plus-size model this year

I don't get it. Not that I give a hoot about whether she is hot enough or not, but I don't get the movement on big is beautiful too. We're supposed to be living in a time when obesity is unhealthy and people should want to strive to achieve a healthy weight. Seems like a double standard to celebrate curves.

Basically, I don't get women.
Mentioning her and obesity in the same post is :crazy:
I'm not the one touting her as plus-sized. SI is. Just decide if you think being overweight is something to be celebrated or shamed. It's not that complicated.
You do realize you can be plus size and not overweight, correct? Or do you realize it now?
That is true. But a 5-4 size 12 woman is overweight.
But not one who is 6-2.

 
Enh . . . some people (men and women) have disabilities or other conditions, or generally irreconcilable lifestyle issues, that prevent them from being thin. That may mean that they don't meet your or my standard of sexual attractiveness, but that's your or my concern.

Not soapboxing here, but if a plus-size model feels good about herself and wants to pose in SI, and SI asked her to do so, who am I to disagree with that? Good for her.
I don't blame the model, but I just don't like this direction in the country where obesity is something to be celebrated. I understand that some people have genetic conditions that make this difficult, but typically the models held up as role models aren't suffering from a thyroid syndrome.
Dude, she's not obese. Nowhere near it.

 
People get that size 0 or size 2 is not "normal" size either, right? And that in a society with eating disorders, we pretty much only show size 0 and size 2 on magazine covers. Some people point that stuff out, but nobody listens to them.

If we're really worried about obesity, we might consider that showing a healthy size 12 might seriously motivate someone who has no chance of ever being a size 2 to try to become a healthy size 12.
hello exactly

 
Also, for the first time in history there are more fat women than men in this country. And this is accelerating.
Really? I actually find this surprising. I would've thought that historically there would've been more overweight women then men...mainly because I feel like more men are active as part of their profession than women.
My understanding is that it was a sign that the woman is affluent because she could actually afford to be fat (could eat well enough to get fat whereas most couldn't).

 
brony, JJ Watt would be considered plus size. You think he is overweight or obese?
I haven't commented on this particular model being obese or overweight. SI is not the first campaign celebrating obesity/big boned/overweight/above average BMI. I really have no interest in this model or JJ Watt being obese or overweight or whatever term you want to put on it.

I just find it odd that in a time when there are many headlines highlighting the country's obesity problem, there are campaigns celebrating being overweight. No problem if I'm the only who finds that odd. It won't be the last time.
They are not celebrating being overweight. They are celebrating being plus size. Plus size does not necessarily mean overweight, although it can.

 
brony, JJ Watt would be considered plus size. You think he is overweight or obese?
I haven't commented on this particular model being obese or overweight. SI is not the first campaign celebrating obesity/big boned/overweight/above average BMI. I really have no interest in this model or JJ Watt being obese or overweight or whatever term you want to put on it.

I just find it odd that in a time when there are many headlines highlighting the country's obesity problem, there are campaigns celebrating being overweight. No problem if I'm the only who finds that odd. It won't be the last time.
They are not celebrating being overweight. They are celebrating being plus size. Plus size does not necessarily mean overweight, although it can.
Right. I mean, per BMI, guys like Takeo Spikes are "overweight".

 
brony, JJ Watt would be considered plus size. You think he is overweight or obese?
I haven't commented on this particular model being obese or overweight. SI is not the first campaign celebrating obesity/big boned/overweight/above average BMI. I really have no interest in this model or JJ Watt being obese or overweight or whatever term you want to put on it. I just find it odd that in a time when there are many headlines highlighting the country's obesity problem, there are campaigns celebrating being overweight. No problem if I'm the only who finds that odd. It won't be the last time.
They are not celebrating being overweight. They are celebrating being plus size. Plus size does not necessarily mean overweight, although it can.
Right. I mean, per BMI, guys like Takeo Spikes are "overweight".
Vince Wilfork as well.
 
brony, JJ Watt would be considered plus size. You think he is overweight or obese?
I haven't commented on this particular model being obese or overweight. SI is not the first campaign celebrating obesity/big boned/overweight/above average BMI. I really have no interest in this model or JJ Watt being obese or overweight or whatever term you want to put on it.

I just find it odd that in a time when there are many headlines highlighting the country's obesity problem, there are campaigns celebrating being overweight. No problem if I'm the only who finds that odd. It won't be the last time.
They are not celebrating being overweight. They are celebrating being plus size. Plus size does not necessarily mean overweight, although it can.
Everytime I've seen mention of someone being plus sized, they've had more jelly in the belly and not called plus size cause of their height or muscle. You may have spent more time researching plus-size models though and seen the exceptions.

 
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SI swimsuit edition will have a plus-size model this year

I don't get it. Not that I give a hoot about whether she is hot enough or not, but I don't get the movement on big is beautiful too. We're supposed to be living in a time when obesity is unhealthy and people should want to strive to achieve a healthy weight. Seems like a double standard to celebrate curves.

Basically, I don't get women.
The line starts way over here, buddy. No cuts.

 
Also, for the first time in history there are more fat women than men in this country. And this is accelerating.
Really? I actually find this surprising. I would've thought that historically there would've been more overweight women then men...mainly because I feel like more men are active as part of their profession than women.
My understanding is that it was a sign that the woman is affluent because she could actually afford to be fat (could eat well enough to get fat whereas most couldn't).
That makes sense.

Along the same lines, I'm 1/2 Thai...in Thailand, being pale skinned is a sign of wealth. The wealthy use tons of sun screen and avoid the sun because over there, being tan is a sign of being "working class," and being outside all day. Meanwhile, here in the states, it's almost the opposite. The rich go on vacations and spend time relaxing in the sun. I guess it's cultural to be fat too...isn't that the Pacific Islander logic? Fat = healthy and wealthy?

 
If they didn't specifically advertise that this chick was "plus-size" no one would have had any clue she was.

 
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Also, for the first time in history there are more fat women than men in this country. And this is accelerating.
Really? I actually find this surprising. I would've thought that historically there would've been more overweight women then men...mainly because I feel like more men are active as part of their profession than women.
My understanding is that it was a sign that the woman is affluent because she could actually afford to be fat (could eat well enough to get fat whereas most couldn't).
That makes sense.

Along the same lines, I'm 1/2 Thai...in Thailand, being pale skinned is a sign of wealth. The wealthy use tons of sun screen and avoid the sun because over there, being tan is a sign of being "working class," and being outside all day. Meanwhile, here in the states, it's almost the opposite. The rich go on vacations and spend time relaxing in the sun. I guess it's cultural to be fat too...isn't that the Pacific Islander logic? Fat = healthy and wealthy?
The same used to be true in the US. That's where the term "blue bloods" comes from. The rich used to stay out of the sun, working outside was a sign of the working class. Rich people would be so pale you could easily see their blue veins, hence, blue bloods.

 
SI swimsuit edition will have a plus-size model this year

I don't get it. Not that I give a hoot about whether she is hot enough or not, but I don't get the movement on big is beautiful too. We're supposed to be living in a time when obesity is unhealthy and people should want to strive to achieve a healthy weight. Seems like a double standard to celebrate curves.

Basically, I don't get women.
It's an excuse to avoid having to correct the problem and live in complacency, e.g. doing the heavy lifting (no pun intended) to eat better and workout more. Tables get turned on everyone else for judging women who are overweight. Overweight women scream loud enough, and people back off, possibly "celebrate" their fatness in fear of backlash for not being involved in the movement.
I don't think anyone would argue if you said that a chick who was 300 lbs. and was 5'3" was overweight and had a health problem that she needs to work on for her own sake...I think my thing here is that the definition of "healthy" is so skewed that the vast majority of the population is deemed "overweight." My issue isn't with the concept, but more with the cut-off.

I'm 5'11" and weigh 185 lbs. I'm considered "overweight." I've never been CALLED overweight by anyone who has ever seen me. I just think the scale is off. I'm NOT saying there aren't lots of people with major issues out there.
What's your cup size?

 
I'd ruin that, take a break and come back for more. Not saying I'm a chubby chaser but I'm not turning my nose up to it either.

 
The original point is s fair one. They vilify the size 0 models for being unrealistic and unhealthy and now we are supposed to cheer the obese models like Tess Holliday? Sorry. Both ends of that spectrum are bad examples for our country.

 

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