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Points for QB pass TD's? (1 Viewer)

Should FBG alter their standard scoring parameters for QB pass TD's

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Pickle Rody

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Simple poll. I just want to know if the majority of leagues still use 4 points per TD pass in their scoring. I realize this may have been asked in previous years, but I'm interested in right now. The only reason I'm wondering is that FBG still uses 4 points per TD pass in their standard FBG scoring and I'm thinking this might be somewhat outdated with the variety of league types that are prevalent in today's fantasy football scene.

TIA for any and all replies.

Rody

 
My main league is 6pts per TD, but also -3 for ints. How fbg does their ranking is fine with me, it's all relative.

 
I see your point. My main league does not penalize for interceptions and I didn't give it a thought when creating the poll. On the other hand, does FBG standard scoring take interceptions penalties into account?

 
My main league actually uses 5 pts per TD pass and -2 for INTs. We do have a 2-point bonus for QBs completing 65% of their passes or better per game as well.

 
My primary league has given 8 for TDs scored and 5 for TD passes for its entire 30 years (I have only been in for the last 28). Six and 4 is close enough in ratio that I am glad FBG uses that.

Please don't inspire an unnecessary change here. We all translate their numbers into our own league scoring systems (people are delusional that think we are all playing the same game here - or that we even want to be) and adjusting to some new FBG basis system would require more modification than any benefit obtained.

Your question is like past requests that FBG set up an alternate scale using "PPR" scoring. There is no PPR base scoring. Some give a point to receivers only, and others a point to all. Some give .5. Some give .5 to RBs and 1 to WRs and 2 per catch to TEs. The scoring systems are all over the board - and everyone apparently likes their own best. Here's hoping that FBG realizes this and consiously keeps using their basic format, which we can all go on adjusting to our own situations.

 
My primary league has given 8 for TDs scored and 5 for TD passes for its entire 30 years (I have only been in for the last 28). Six and 4 is close enough in ratio that I am glad FBG uses that.

Please don't inspire an unnecessary change here. We all translate their numbers into our own league scoring systems (people are delusional that think we are all playing the same game here - or that we even want to be) and adjusting to some new FBG basis system would require more modification than any benefit obtained.

Your question is like past requests that FBG set up an alternate scale using "PPR" scoring. There is no PPR base scoring. Some give a point to receivers only, and others a point to all. Some give .5. Some give .5 to RBs and 1 to WRs and 2 per catch to TEs. The scoring systems are all over the board - and everyone apparently likes their own best. Here's hoping that FBG realizes this and consiously keeps using their basic format, which we can all go on adjusting to our own situations.
According to early poll results, I highly doubt I am inspiring any change at all. But I appreciate your response all the same. Initially when setting up the poll I was expecting (probably my first mistake) results which indicated a much heavier lean towards 6 points / TD pass than 4, but again, this poll is in it's early stages. Regardless, if a few weeks from now the poll results in a 50/50 split it would indicate that 4 points / TD pass isn't all that "standard" as it might have been even a few short years ago.What makes FBG standard scoring with regards to QB pass TD points difficult for me is when I read an article and the numbers generated (within the article) to quantify the writers position are based on this standard. I can, and surely do, adjust according to my own leagues and situations when using such tools as the Dominator series or the MyFBG application. Within each of those programs I can utilize FBG base player projections and my own scoring parameters to formulate solid end results for me, and that works just fine. It's much more difficult to do so when reading an article based on a scoring standard that does not fit my scoring parameters.

For instance: When comparing positional importance in establishing a solid VBD baseline, generally the RB/WR/TE positions use the same scoring standard whether the QB is scoring at 4 or 6 points / pass TD. The importance of the QB position, relative to the other positions, changes quite a bit if the QB gets 6 pts / TD pass vs. 4 points / TD pass. Thus, in leagues that use 6 points / TD pass, the QB position is far more important relative to other positions than leagues that use 4.

Maybe instead of requesting changes in standard scoring parameters (of which I have not, I am just exploring things here) I should be requesting more articles dealing with different scoring parameters, such as 6 points / TD pass vs. 4. Hell, folks have been clamoring for more IDP info and articles for quite a few years now and things have started to pick up in those regards, which is a direct result of the demand. They have even begun providing projections for IDP. If the poll results eventually expose a near 50/50 split in QB scoring, then wouldn't that indicate a need to address those differences through informative articles bases on those different standards being widely used out there in various leagues?

One other thought I had was that FBG, as a business, seems intent on paving the way into the future as evidenced by their new I-phone app, the new mobile technology being offered and the soon to be announced TIF advancement that Dodd's specifically stated will change the fantasy landscape. Why would it be so difficult to alter their philosophy on standard scoring? If not alter it, why couldn't they expound on it and begin to create articles specifically based on a different and widely used set of scoring standards?

I'm not looking to rock the boat here, as some of you might be inclined to believe, but rather I aim to bring some thought and discussion to the table with regards to these differences.

Rody

 
My primary league has given 8 for TDs scored and 5 for TD passes for its entire 30 years (I have only been in for the last 28). Six and 4 is close enough in ratio that I am glad FBG uses that.

Please don't inspire an unnecessary change here. We all translate their numbers into our own league scoring systems (people are delusional that think we are all playing the same game here - or that we even want to be) and adjusting to some new FBG basis system would require more modification than any benefit obtained.

Your question is like past requests that FBG set up an alternate scale using "PPR" scoring. There is no PPR base scoring. Some give a point to receivers only, and others a point to all. Some give .5. Some give .5 to RBs and 1 to WRs and 2 per catch to TEs. The scoring systems are all over the board - and everyone apparently likes their own best. Here's hoping that FBG realizes this and consiously keeps using their basic format, which we can all go on adjusting to our own situations.
According to early poll results, I highly doubt I am inspiring any change at all. But I appreciate your response all the same. Initially when setting up the poll I was expecting (probably my first mistake) results which indicated a much heavier lean towards 6 points / TD pass than 4, but again, this poll is in it's early stages. Regardless, if a few weeks from now the poll results in a 50/50 split it would indicate that 4 points / TD pass isn't all that "standard" as it might have been even a few short years ago.What makes FBG standard scoring with regards to QB pass TD points difficult for me is when I read an article and the numbers generated (within the article) to quantify the writers position are based on this standard. I can, and surely do, adjust according to my own leagues and situations when using such tools as the Dominator series or the MyFBG application. Within each of those programs I can utilize FBG base player projections and my own scoring parameters to formulate solid end results for me, and that works just fine. It's much more difficult to do so when reading an article based on a scoring standard that does not fit my scoring parameters.

For instance: When comparing positional importance in establishing a solid VBD baseline, generally the RB/WR/TE positions use the same scoring standard whether the QB is scoring at 4 or 6 points / pass TD. The importance of the QB position, relative to the other positions, changes quite a bit if the QB gets 6 pts / TD pass vs. 4 points / TD pass. Thus, in leagues that use 6 points / TD pass, the QB position is far more important relative to other positions than leagues that use 4.

Maybe instead of requesting changes in standard scoring parameters (of which I have not, I am just exploring things here) I should be requesting more articles dealing with different scoring parameters, such as 6 points / TD pass vs. 4. Hell, folks have been clamoring for more IDP info and articles for quite a few years now and things have started to pick up in those regards, which is a direct result of the demand. They have even begun providing projections for IDP. If the poll results eventually expose a near 50/50 split in QB scoring, then wouldn't that indicate a need to address those differences through informative articles bases on those different standards being widely used out there in various leagues?

One other thought I had was that FBG, as a business, seems intent on paving the way into the future as evidenced by their new I-phone app, the new mobile technology being offered and the soon to be announced TIF advancement that Dodd's specifically stated will change the fantasy landscape. Why would it be so difficult to alter their philosophy on standard scoring? If not alter it, why couldn't they expound on it and begin to create articles specifically based on a different and widely used set of scoring standards?

I'm not looking to rock the boat here, as some of you might be inclined to believe, but rather I aim to bring some thought and discussion to the table with regards to these differences.

Rody
yeah I feel the same reading about articles based upon no ppr when i use ppr
 
My primary league has given 8 for TDs scored and 5 for TD passes for its entire 30 years (I have only been in for the last 28). Six and 4 is close enough in ratio that I am glad FBG uses that.

Please don't inspire an unnecessary change here. We all translate their numbers into our own league scoring systems (people are delusional that think we are all playing the same game here - or that we even want to be) and adjusting to some new FBG basis system would require more modification than any benefit obtained.

Your question is like past requests that FBG set up an alternate scale using "PPR" scoring. There is no PPR base scoring. Some give a point to receivers only, and others a point to all. Some give .5. Some give .5 to RBs and 1 to WRs and 2 per catch to TEs. The scoring systems are all over the board - and everyone apparently likes their own best. Here's hoping that FBG realizes this and consiously keeps using their basic format, which we can all go on adjusting to our own situations.
According to early poll results, I highly doubt I am inspiring any change at all. But I appreciate your response all the same. Initially when setting up the poll I was expecting (probably my first mistake) results which indicated a much heavier lean towards 6 points / TD pass than 4, but again, this poll is in it's early stages. Regardless, if a few weeks from now the poll results in a 50/50 split it would indicate that 4 points / TD pass isn't all that "standard" as it might have been even a few short years ago.What makes FBG standard scoring with regards to QB pass TD points difficult for me is when I read an article and the numbers generated (within the article) to quantify the writers position are based on this standard. I can, and surely do, adjust according to my own leagues and situations when using such tools as the Dominator series or the MyFBG application. Within each of those programs I can utilize FBG base player projections and my own scoring parameters to formulate solid end results for me, and that works just fine. It's much more difficult to do so when reading an article based on a scoring standard that does not fit my scoring parameters.

For instance: When comparing positional importance in establishing a solid VBD baseline, generally the RB/WR/TE positions use the same scoring standard whether the QB is scoring at 4 or 6 points / pass TD. The importance of the QB position, relative to the other positions, changes quite a bit if the QB gets 6 pts / TD pass vs. 4 points / TD pass. Thus, in leagues that use 6 points / TD pass, the QB position is far more important relative to other positions than leagues that use 4.

Maybe instead of requesting changes in standard scoring parameters (of which I have not, I am just exploring things here) I should be requesting more articles dealing with different scoring parameters, such as 6 points / TD pass vs. 4. Hell, folks have been clamoring for more IDP info and articles for quite a few years now and things have started to pick up in those regards, which is a direct result of the demand. They have even begun providing projections for IDP. If the poll results eventually expose a near 50/50 split in QB scoring, then wouldn't that indicate a need to address those differences through informative articles bases on those different standards being widely used out there in various leagues?

One other thought I had was that FBG, as a business, seems intent on paving the way into the future as evidenced by their new I-phone app, the new mobile technology being offered and the soon to be announced TIF advancement that Dodd's specifically stated will change the fantasy landscape. Why would it be so difficult to alter their philosophy on standard scoring? If not alter it, why couldn't they expound on it and begin to create articles specifically based on a different and widely used set of scoring standards?

I'm not looking to rock the boat here, as some of you might be inclined to believe, but rather I aim to bring some thought and discussion to the table with regards to these differences.

Rody
That's what Robespierre said.

 
4 -15 -2In the leagues that i playexcept for the homer league which is 6 0 and uses sacks and completion percentage so it is weird anyway
My leagues are usually:5pts / -2 INTsBut almost all the leagues Im in(Not Comishing) are:4pts / -2 INTsI think 6 is too many personally. It puts the QBs well above the rest in pts at the end of the season. Even 4/5 puts at least 5 QBs in the top 10 in pts at the end of the season. Rodgers was the #1 pt scorer in most of my leagues last year. Even the 4pt per leagues. As a matter of fact, here is the top 10 (in a 4 pt per TD for QBs.):RodgerChris JohnsonBreesSchaubPeytonFavreRomoA. PetersonBrady Ray RiceQB Stats for above players: 4pts per passing TD / 1pt per every 19 yds passing / -1 per INT / 2pts per 2 point conver. / 6pts per rush TD / 1pt per 10 yds rush.
 
I think 6 is too many personally. It puts the QBs well above the rest in pts at the end of the season. Even 4/5 puts at least 5 QBs in the top 10 in pts at the end of the season. Rodgers was the #1 pt scorer in most of my leagues last year. Even the 4pt per leagues. As a matter of fact, here is the top 10 (in a 4 pt per TD for QBs.):RodgerChris JohnsonBreesSchaubPeytonFavreRomoA. PetersonBrady Ray RiceQB Stats for above players: 4pts per passing TD / 1pt per every 19 yds passing / -1 per INT / 2pts per 2 point conver. / 6pts per rush TD / 1pt per 10 yds rush.
So for only 76 passing yards, you get the equivalent of a TD in this league? That's the bigger problem here (and, btw...is there any special reason it's 19 yards instead of 20 or 25?).
 
I think 6 is too many personally. It puts the QBs well above the rest in pts at the end of the season. Even 4/5 puts at least 5 QBs in the top 10 in pts at the end of the season. Rodgers was the #1 pt scorer in most of my leagues last year. Even the 4pt per leagues. As a matter of fact, here is the top 10 (in a 4 pt per TD for QBs.):RodgerChris JohnsonBreesSchaubPeytonFavreRomoA. PetersonBrady Ray RiceQB Stats for above players: 4pts per passing TD / 1pt per every 19 yds passing / -1 per INT / 2pts per 2 point conver. / 6pts per rush TD / 1pt per 10 yds rush.
So for only 76 passing yards, you get the equivalent of a TD in this league? That's the bigger problem here (and, btw...is there any special reason it's 19 yards instead of 20 or 25?).
Why is this "a bigger problem here"? This is a league Im in right?No real reason. Used .05 pts per and it comes out to 1 pt per 19 yds passing.
 
I think 6 is too many personally. It puts the QBs well above the rest in pts at the end of the season. Even 4/5 puts at least 5 QBs in the top 10 in pts at the end of the season. Rodgers was the #1 pt scorer in most of my leagues last year. Even the 4pt per leagues. As a matter of fact, here is the top 10 (in a 4 pt per TD for QBs.):

Rodger

Chris Johnson

Brees

Schaub

Peyton

Favre

Romo

A. Peterson

Brady

Ray Rice

QB Stats for above players: 4pts per passing TD / 1pt per every 19 yds passing / -1 per INT / 2pts per 2 point conver. / 6pts per rush TD / 1pt per 10 yds rush.
So for only 76 passing yards, you get the equivalent of a TD in this league? That's the bigger problem here (and, btw...is there any special reason it's 19 yards instead of 20 or 25?).
Why is this "a bigger problem here"? This is a league Im in right?No real reason. Used .05 pts per and it comes out to 1 pt per 19 yds passing.
You don't need a PhD in mathematics (or even a calculator) to know that .05/1 = 1/20. But, it's the league you're in, so that's cool. You could consider moving to a 3.9 per PaTD.
 
cobalt_27 said:
•TheRealMcCoy said:
cobalt_27 said:
•TheRealMcCoy said:
I think 6 is too many personally. It puts the QBs well above the rest in pts at the end of the season. Even 4/5 puts at least 5 QBs in the top 10 in pts at the end of the season. Rodgers was the #1 pt scorer in most of my leagues last year. Even the 4pt per leagues. As a matter of fact, here is the top 10 (in a 4 pt per TD for QBs.):

Rodger

Chris Johnson

Brees

Schaub

Peyton

Favre

Romo

A. Peterson

Brady

Ray Rice

QB Stats for above players: 4pts per passing TD / 1pt per every 19 yds passing / -1 per INT / 2pts per 2 point conver. / 6pts per rush TD / 1pt per 10 yds rush.
So for only 76 passing yards, you get the equivalent of a TD in this league? That's the bigger problem here (and, btw...is there any special reason it's 19 yards instead of 20 or 25?).
Why is this "a bigger problem here"? This is a league Im in right?No real reason. Used .05 pts per and it comes out to 1 pt per 19 yds passing.
You don't need a PhD in mathematics (or even a calculator) to know that .05/1 = 1/20. But, it's the league you're in, so that's cool. You could consider moving to a 3.9 per PaTD.
But only if you get a minus 1.9257386 for each int.
 
6 points for passing TD's with ppr should be standard rules now. Those rules make RB's QB's and Wr's all valuable.

 
cobalt_27 said:
•TheRealMcCoy said:
cobalt_27 said:
•TheRealMcCoy said:
I think 6 is too many personally. It puts the QBs well above the rest in pts at the end of the season. Even 4/5 puts at least 5 QBs in the top 10 in pts at the end of the season. Rodgers was the #1 pt scorer in most of my leagues last year. Even the 4pt per leagues. As a matter of fact, here is the top 10 (in a 4 pt per TD for QBs.):

Rodger

Chris Johnson

Brees

Schaub

Peyton

Favre

Romo

A. Peterson

Brady

Ray Rice

QB Stats for above players: 4pts per passing TD / 1pt per every 19 yds passing / -1 per INT / 2pts per 2 point conver. / 6pts per rush TD / 1pt per 10 yds rush.
So for only 76 passing yards, you get the equivalent of a TD in this league? That's the bigger problem here (and, btw...is there any special reason it's 19 yards instead of 20 or 25?).
Why is this "a bigger problem here"? This is a league Im in right?No real reason. Used .05 pts per and it comes out to 1 pt per 19 yds passing.
You don't need a PhD in mathematics (or even a calculator) to know that .05/1 = 1/20. But, it's the league you're in, so that's cool. You could consider moving to a 3.9 per PaTD.
But only if you get a minus 1.9257386 for each int.
Ha, Ha. LOL.I did not generate this. MFL does? Should be 1/20? But when you click "test" on the pts rules it shows 1/19? There you have it. :goodposting:

 
Generally, it is 4/TD with -1/INT and 6/TD with -2/INT.

One needs to keep both in mind. To me, there is little difference in the VBD.

Now, if one went 6/TD and -1/INT, that would change things. Not sure I like it.

Why not adjust points per yard passing instead? What is sacred about .05? You want QBs to be more valuable, give .075.

 

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