The Fantasy Chef
Footballguy
Just wondering if any body wants to post some post combine rankings or leave links to sites that have updated skill position rankings for us hardcore dynasty addicts

What's the link to those sites I'm not good with the abbreviation TiaEBF and TDMills are likely to update theirs post-combine. Check dynastyleaguefootball.com. I'd be surprised if they don't have post combine rankings very soon.
They are posters hereWhat's the link to those sites I'm not good with the abbreviation TiaEBF and TDMills are likely to update theirs post-combine. Check dynastyleaguefootball.com. I'd be surprised if they don't have post combine rankings very soon.
Where would I find itFaust thread was pretty good at this last season if you guys haven't checked it out and voted.
If Hyde has a good Pro Day does he move into your first tier?bicycle_seat_sniffer said:I kinda got my post-combine tiers sorted out for RB & WR
RB
Lache Seatstrunk
Tre Mason
Bishop Sankey
-----------------------------
Jeremy Hill
Carlos Hyde
Andre Williams
Ka'Deem Carey
Charles Simms
----------------------------
Devonta Freeman
Terrence West
Isiah Crowell
----------------------------
Jerick McKinnon
Kapri Bibbs
WR
Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Marquis Lee
----------------------
Odell Beckham
Kelvin Benjamin
Jordan Mathews
Allen Robinson
Brandin Cooks
----------------------
Donte Moncreif
Martavius Bryant
Jarvis Landry
Davante Adams
It switches every pick http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=704400&st=Where would I find itFaust thread was pretty good at this last season if you guys haven't checked it out and voted.
Benjamin had a pretty bad combine and I was highly concerned about him going into it. Concerns going in for me; speed, short area quickness, fluidity in and out of breaks, runs high in his routs (probably because he has stiff hips), hands (had a lot of drops last year) and he's old for a prospect (23 if I'm not mistaken).No Kelvin Benjamin ^ ?
How are so many people overlooking him. Am I missing something? His 40 time high? Route Running bad? Help me out.
I didn't "overlook" him. I watched him play and really don't like him. Even before the combine I didn't understand the hype. I hoped he would measure well, in fact, so he would get over drafted.BWill said:No Kelvin Benjamin ^ ?
How are so many people overlooking him. Am I missing something? His 40 time high? Route Running bad? Help me out.
who you calling poser buddyI didn't "overlook" him. I watched him play and really don't like him. Even before the combine I didn't understand the hype. I hoped he would measure well, in fact, so he would get over drafted.BWill said:No Kelvin Benjamin ^ ?
How are so many people overlooking him. Am I missing something? His 40 time high? Route Running bad? Help me out.
As another poser already mentioned, he's a 24 year old project. Not a good combination.
Stephen Houston is way too low.This was from a bills analyst from the drafttek forums I thought it was a good base to talk about ...............this was his post combine rb rankings.................
1 Bishop Sankey Washington 5094 209
2 Carlos Hyde Ohio State 5117 230
3 Tre Mason Auburn 5084 207
4 Andre Williams Boston College 5113 230
5 Jeremy Hill LSU 6005 233
6 Lache Seastrunk Baylor 5094 201
7 Ka'Deem Carey Arizona 5093 207
8 Charles Sims WVU 6000 214
9 Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern 5087 209
10 Marion Grice Arizona State 208
11 Devonta Freeman Florida State 5082 206
12 Terrance West Towson 5092 225
13 James Wilder Jr. Florida State 6025 232
14 Rajion Neal Tennessee 5'10" 212
15 James White Wisconsin 5091 204
16 Antonio Andrews W Kentucky 5101 225
17 Storm Johnson Central Florida 5115 209
18 Tim Flanders Sam Houston State 5085 207
19 Tyler Gaffney Stanford 5114 220
20 David Fluellen Toledo 5111 224
21 Kapri Bibbs Colorado State 5093 212
22 Isaiah Crowell Alabama State 5110 224
23 Lorenzo Taliaferro CCU 6002 229
24 George Atkinson III Notre Dame 6013 218
25 Henry Josey Missouri 5081 194
26 Silas Redd USC 5096 212
27 Jerome Smith Syracuse 5111 220
28 Darrin Reaves UAB 5'10" 210
29 LaDarius Perkins Mississippi State 5073 195
30 Damien Williams Oklahoma 5112 222
31 Alfred Blue LSU 6023 223
32 Tim Cornett UNLV 6002 209
33 Roderick McDowell Clemson 5'9" 195
34 James Sims Kansas 6'0" 202
35 Trey Watts Tulsa 5'11" 195
36 Wesley Tate Vanderbilt 6'1" 224
37 Glasco Martin Baylor 6'0" 220
38 Brennan Clay Oklahoma 5'11" 198
39 Brendan Bigelow California 5'10" 190
40 Anthony Wilkerson Stanford 6'0" 218
41 Orleans Darkwa Tulane 6'0" 212
42 David Oku Arkansas State 5'10" 198
43 Kendrick Hardy Southern Mississippi 6'0" 222
44 John Hubert Kansas State 5'7" 192
45 Terrance Cobb Cumberlands 5'11" 220
46 Zurlon Tipton Central Michigan 6'1" 220
47 Zach Bauman Northern Arizona 5'8" 194
48 Jordan Hall Ohio State 5'8" 192
49 Fabian Truss Samford 5'9" 185
50 Kasey Carrier New Mexico 5'8" 185
51 Cody Kirk Montana State 5'10" 213
52 Kedrick Rhodes West Alabama 5'10" 204
53 Senorise Perry Louisville 6'0" 203
54 Branden Oliver Buffalo 5'7" 204
55 Adam Muema San Diego State 5'10" 202
56 Ben Malena Texas A&M 5'8" 195
57 D.J. Adams Portland State 5'9" 217
58 Vintavious Cooper East Carolina 5'9" 200
59 Jaamal Berry Murray State 5'10" 200
60 Marcus Shaw South Florida 5'9" 172
61 Taylor Cox Kansas 5'11" 212
62 Fitzgerald Toussaint Michigan 5'10" 200
63 Sam Ojuri North Dakota St 6'0" 203
64 Dom Williams Wagner 5'9" 205
65 Charles Ross Rice 6'1" 235
66 A.J. Blue North Carolina 6'1" 218
67 Waymon James TCU 5'8" 203
68 Josh Birmingham Central Oklahoma 5'8" 194
69 Brandon Baker Carson-Newman 5'10" 210
70 Keidrick Jackson Midwestern State 5'8" 212
71 Charcandrick West Abilene Christian 5'9" 199
72 Stephen Houston Indiana 5'10" 225
73 Chris Nwoke Colorado State 5'11" 213
74 Bradley Moon Shorter 5'9" 173
75 Jeremy Smith Oklahoma State 5'10" 208
76 Raymond Sanders Kentucky 5'7" 187
77 Jyruss Edwards Louisiana-Monroe 5'11" 202
78 James Gillum Minnesota 5'9⅝" 211
79 Trae Heeter Butler 5'8" 188
80 Evans Okotcha UTSA 5'8¼" 215
81 Ryan Boykin Ohio 6'1" 216
82 Kelvin York Utah 5'11" 223
83 Juwan Thompson Duke 5'10" 228
84 Greg Franklin UAB 5'10" 212
85 Toney Davis Wayne State (MI) 5'10" 205
86 James Baker Idaho 6'0" 235
87 Jermie Calhoun Angelo State 5'11" 211
88 Ike Jackson Bethune-Cookman 5'8" 182
89 Josh Harris Wake Forest 5'9" 208
90 Hunter Furr East Carolina 6'0" 225
91 Taylor Martinez Nebraska 6'0" 207
92 Nick Ricciardulli Humboldt State 5'7" 190
93 Ja'Terian Douglas Tulsa 5'10" 200
94 Dom Williams Wagner 5'8" 204
95 Jonathon Miller Illinois State 5'11" 201
96 Michael Alisa BYU 6'1" 220
97 Roderick Jones Shorter 5'10" 173
98 Torrian Pace Youngstown State 5'8¾" 230
99 Jon-Jon George Kentucky 5'10" 214
100 Dillon Baxter Baker University 5'10" 206
He was a five start prospect out of high school but his character issues have really ruined his appeal. I don't think he'll be drafted until the late third maybe 4th rounds in rookie drafts. To much risk to draft early.What makes you like Isaiah Crowell so much Xue?
My rankings don't reflect where I think he'll be drafted, just talent.The Fantasy Chef said:He was a five start prospect out of high school but his character issues have really ruined his appeal. I don't think he'll be drafted until the late third maybe 4th rounds in rookie drafts. To much risk to draft early.Milkman said:What makes you like Isaiah Crowell so much Xue?
no love for Cody LatimerXue said:Here are my post-combine rankings:
QB:
RB:
- Teddy Bridgewater
- Blake Bortles
- Brett Smith
- Johnny Manziel
- Keith Wenning
- Jimmy Garoppolo
- Zach Mettenberger
- Derek Carr
WR:
- Isaiah Crowell
- Bishop Sankey
- Carlos Hyde
- Tre Mason
- Lache Seastrunk
- Devonta Freeman
- Antonio Andrews
- Charles Sims
- Jeremy Hill
- James White
- Stephen Houston
- Terrance West
- KaDeem Carey
- Marion Grice
- Henry Josey
- Andre Williams
- Lorenzo Taliferro
- David Fluellen
- Silas Redd
- Zurlon Tipton
- Tim Cornett
- Brendan Bigelow
- Mike Evans
- Sammy Watkins
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Davante Adams
- Allen Robinson
- Brandin Cooks
- Cody Latimer
- Jordan Matthews
- Marqise Lee
- Chris Boyd
- Donte Moncrief
- Cody Hoffman
- Ryan Grant
- Josh Huff
- TJ Jones
- Paul Richardson
- Jarvis Landry
- Quincy Enunwa
- Bruce Ellington
- Martavis Bryant
- Kelvin Benjamin
- Robert Herron
- Matt Hazel
- Jalen Saunders
- Kain Colter
- Jared Abbrederis
- Mike Davis
- Shaquelle Evans
- Chandler Jones
- Damian Copeland
- Albert Wilson
No Brandon Coleman from Rutgers I know he might not be top ten but top 30?Xue said:Here are my post-combine rankings:
WR7.no love for Cody LatimerXue said:Here are my post-combine rankings:
QB:
RB:
- Teddy Bridgewater
- Blake Bortles
- Brett Smith
- Johnny Manziel
- Keith Wenning
- Jimmy Garoppolo
- Zach Mettenberger
- Derek Carr
WR:
- Isaiah Crowell
- Bishop Sankey
- Carlos Hyde
- Tre Mason
- Lache Seastrunk
- Devonta Freeman
- Antonio Andrews
- Charles Sims
- Jeremy Hill
- James White
- Stephen Houston
- Terrance West
- KaDeem Carey
- Marion Grice
- Henry Josey
- Andre Williams
- Lorenzo Taliferro
- David Fluellen
- Silas Redd
- Zurlon Tipton
- Tim Cornett
- Brendan Bigelow
- Mike Evans
- Sammy Watkins
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Davante Adams
- Allen Robinson
- Brandin Cooks
- Cody Latimer
- Jordan Matthews
- Marqise Lee
- Chris Boyd
- Donte Moncrief
- Cody Hoffman
- Ryan Grant
- Josh Huff
- TJ Jones
- Paul Richardson
- Jarvis Landry
- Quincy Enunwa
- Bruce Ellington
- Martavis Bryant
- Kelvin Benjamin
- Robert Herron
- Matt Hazel
- Jalen Saunders
- Kain Colter
- Jared Abbrederis
- Mike Davis
- Shaquelle Evans
- Chandler Jones
- Damian Copeland
- Albert Wilson
:facepalm:WR7.no love for Cody LatimerXue said:Here are my post-combine rankings:
QB:
RB:
- Teddy Bridgewater
- Blake Bortles
- Brett Smith
- Johnny Manziel
- Keith Wenning
- Jimmy Garoppolo
- Zach Mettenberger
- Derek Carr
WR:
- Isaiah Crowell
- Bishop Sankey
- Carlos Hyde
- Tre Mason
- Lache Seastrunk
- Devonta Freeman
- Antonio Andrews
- Charles Sims
- Jeremy Hill
- James White
- Stephen Houston
- Terrance West
- KaDeem Carey
- Marion Grice
- Henry Josey
- Andre Williams
- Lorenzo Taliferro
- David Fluellen
- Silas Redd
- Zurlon Tipton
- Tim Cornett
- Brendan Bigelow
- Mike Evans
- Sammy Watkins
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Davante Adams
- Allen Robinson
- Brandin Cooks
- Cody Latimer
- Jordan Matthews
- Marqise Lee
- Chris Boyd
- Donte Moncrief
- Cody Hoffman
- Ryan Grant
- Josh Huff
- TJ Jones
- Paul Richardson
- Jarvis Landry
- Quincy Enunwa
- Bruce Ellington
- Martavis Bryant
- Kelvin Benjamin
- Robert Herron
- Matt Hazel
- Jalen Saunders
- Kain Colter
- Jared Abbrederis
- Mike Davis
- Shaquelle Evans
- Chandler Jones
- Damian Copeland
- Albert Wilson
The more I look at this, the more 7-9 confuse me. I was super high on Lee just 2 weeks ago and he keeps slipping for me. Tempted to move Moncrief above him based on ceiling alone. I just wish Lee would have posted a tenth better in his 40. 40s are generally overrated but a guy Lee's size and letdown of a junior season, he needs every little bit he can get, imo.My current top 10 WR rank:
- Davante Adams
- Mike Evans
- Sammy Watkins
- Allen Robinson
- Brandin Cooks
- Jordan Matthews
- Marqise Lee
- Donte Moncrief
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Martavis Bryant
There are quite a few you could make an argument for. Beckham Jr, Matthews, Bryant, Moncrief, Benjamin, Cooks. It really depends on landing spot and system that they are in. Watkins/Evans are the only 2 that people are supremely comfortable with to claim them as a good #1 already though. The others have that chance though.The Fantasy Chef said:I pretty much understand the consensus for Watkins and Evans but does any of theses other rookie wrs have a clear cut outlook to be as good or a wr 1 in the nfl and if they do I'd like to know who and why?
I'm curious about the relative position of these two.Here are my post-combine rankings:
RB:
7. Antonio Andrews
13. Ka’Deem Carey
Both put up horrible Combine performances, but look great on tape.I'm curious about the relative position of these two.Here are my post-combine rankings:
RB:
7. Antonio Andrews
13. KaDeem Carey
Bryant was so over shadowed by Watkins and Benjamin has the age factor coming out of school. I do think your on to something with all of them. Is Jarvis Landry in that mix and does any others creep into this conversation?There are quite a few you could make an argument for. Beckham Jr, Matthews, Bryant, Moncrief, Benjamin, Cooks. It really depends on landing spot and system that they are in. Watkins/Evans are the only 2 that people are supremely comfortable with to claim them as a good #1 already though. The others have that chance though.The Fantasy Chef said:I pretty much understand the consensus for Watkins and Evans but does any of theses other rookie wrs have a clear cut outlook to be as good or a wr 1 in the nfl and if they do I'd like to know who and why?
No one stands out as a potential #1 except Matthews. He's the only one over 6-1 and runs a sub-4.5.There are quite a few you could make an argument for. Beckham Jr, Matthews, Bryant, Moncrief, Benjamin, Cooks. It really depends on landing spot and system that they are in. Watkins/Evans are the only 2 that people are supremely comfortable with to claim them as a good #1 already though. The others have that chance though.The Fantasy Chef said:I pretty much understand the consensus for Watkins and Evans but does any of theses other rookie wrs have a clear cut outlook to be as good or a wr 1 in the nfl and if they do I'd like to know who and why?
I'm not sure why Lee isn't mentioned at all but he's got WR1 potential IMO. He's not the prototype in size but he's big enough to pull it off at 6'.cstu said:No one stands out as a potential #1 except Matthews. He's the only one over 6-1 and runs a sub-4.5.There are quite a few you could make an argument for. Beckham Jr, Matthews, Bryant, Moncrief, Benjamin, Cooks. It really depends on landing spot and system that they are in. Watkins/Evans are the only 2 that people are supremely comfortable with to claim them as a good #1 already though. The others have that chance though.The Fantasy Chef said:I pretty much understand the consensus for Watkins and Evans but does any of theses other rookie wrs have a clear cut outlook to be as good or a wr 1 in the nfl and if they do I'd like to know who and why?
now it's interesting that Matthew's was mentioned. a lot of people have been down on him. there was the article by Bloom and i have read the thread kind of talking about his stats being a product of the plays and screens the offense used. I do have to say Lee looks like he has the potential but does his knee injuries scare anyone?I'm not sure why Lee isn't mentioned at all but he's got WR1 potential IMO. He's not the prototype in size but he's big enough to pull it off at 6'.cstu said:No one stands out as a potential #1 except Matthews. He's the only one over 6-1 and runs a sub-4.5.There are quite a few you could make an argument for. Beckham Jr, Matthews, Bryant, Moncrief, Benjamin, Cooks. It really depends on landing spot and system that they are in. Watkins/Evans are the only 2 that people are supremely comfortable with to claim them as a good #1 already though. The others have that chance though.The Fantasy Chef said:I pretty much understand the consensus for Watkins and Evans but does any of theses other rookie wrs have a clear cut outlook to be as good or a wr 1 in the nfl and if they do I'd like to know who and why?
Interesting you say this though. Height and Speed are the only things that matter? Steve Smith has been a #1 for years and he's not tall (although fast). All the guys mentioned have that opportunity if treated right and in the right system. Smith has been thrown around as the Cooks comparison so why can't he be the same thing to a team?now it's interesting that Matthew's was mentioned. a lot of people have been down on him. there was the article by Bloom and i have read the thread kind of talking about his stats being a product of the plays and screens the offense used. I do have to say Lee looks like he has the potential but does his knee injuries scare anyone?I'm not sure why Lee isn't mentioned at all but he's got WR1 potential IMO. He's not the prototype in size but he's big enough to pull it off at 6'.cstu said:No one stands out as a potential #1 except Matthews. He's the only one over 6-1 and runs a sub-4.5.There are quite a few you could make an argument for. Beckham Jr, Matthews, Bryant, Moncrief, Benjamin, Cooks. It really depends on landing spot and system that they are in. Watkins/Evans are the only 2 that people are supremely comfortable with to claim them as a good #1 already though. The others have that chance though.The Fantasy Chef said:I pretty much understand the consensus for Watkins and Evans but does any of theses other rookie wrs have a clear cut outlook to be as good or a wr 1 in the nfl and if they do I'd like to know who and why?
Those would be the pre-combine rankings. Most rankings change after the combine, so its not all fluff.Are there any rankings based strictly on Game tape/viewing? Combine is all fluff. Look what it did for Blaine Gabbert. I'd like to see those rankings if any exist or if anyone has taken that on. I don't get to watch much college stuff.
I really like this kind of thing.I kinda got my post-combine tiers sorted out for RB & WR
RB
Lache Seatstrunk
Tre Mason
Bishop Sankey
-----------------------------
Jeremy Hill
Carlos Hyde
Andre Williams
Ka'Deem Carey
Charles Simms
----------------------------
Devonta Freeman
Terrence West
Isiah Crowell
----------------------------
Jerick McKinnon
Kapri Bibbs
WR
Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Marquis Lee
----------------------
Odell Beckham
Kelvin Benjamin
Jordan Mathews
Allen Robinson
Brandin Cooks
----------------------
Donte Moncreif
Martavius Bryant
Jarvis Landry
Davante Adams
Nfl.com should have all the picks in order by round if you can't find it type draft in the search box.I really like this kind of thing.I kinda got my post-combine tiers sorted out for RB & WR
RB
Lache Seatstrunk
Tre Mason
Bishop Sankey
-----------------------------
Jeremy Hill
Carlos Hyde
Andre Williams
Ka'Deem Carey
Charles Simms
----------------------------
Devonta Freeman
Terrence West
Isiah Crowell
----------------------------
Jerick McKinnon
Kapri Bibbs
WR
Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Marquis Lee
----------------------
Odell Beckham
Kelvin Benjamin
Jordan Mathews
Allen Robinson
Brandin Cooks
----------------------
Donte Moncreif
Martavius Bryant
Jarvis Landry
Davante Adams
Anyone want to take a running shot at guesstimating where these key players will land in terms of their actual draft number range?
Also, does anyone have a link for finding what teams have what picks?
Ok, I've come full circle on Sammy Watkins. Here are my updated rankings for the 2014 rookie WRs. I'm most confident in my top 5 - meaning any of those guys could end up being best of the class, not necessarily the order.My current top 10 WR rank:
- Davante Adams
- Mike Evans
- Sammy Watkins
- Allen Robinson
- Brandin Cooks
- Jordan Matthews
- Marqise Lee
- Donte Moncrief
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Martavis Bryant
That may just be the lowest I've seen Beckham. How exactly does Cooks/Watkins both move up yet Beckham stays at 9?Ok, I've come full circle on Sammy Watkins. Here are my updated rankings for the 2014 rookie WRs. I'm most confident in my top 5 - meaning any of those guys could end up being best of the class, not necessarily the order.My current top 10 WR rank:
- Davante Adams
- Mike Evans
- Sammy Watkins
- Allen Robinson
- Brandin Cooks
- Jordan Matthews
- Marqise Lee
- Donte Moncrief
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Martavis Bryant
- Sammy Watkins
- Mike Evans
- Brandin Cooks
- Davante Adams
- Allen Robinson
- Marqise Lee
- Jordan Matthews
- Donte Moncrief
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Martavis Bryant
My 6-9 are all up in the air for me at this point. This top 10 is essentially 3 tiers with 1-5 being tier 1, 6-9 in tier 2 and 10 being in tier 3. I probably need to move Beckham ahead of Moncrief as I'm souring on Moncrief in recent days.That may just be the lowest I've seen Beckham. How exactly does Cooks/Watkins both move up yet Beckham stays at 9?Ok, I've come full circle on Sammy Watkins. Here are my updated rankings for the 2014 rookie WRs. I'm most confident in my top 5 - meaning any of those guys could end up being best of the class, not necessarily the order.My current top 10 WR rank:
- Davante Adams
- Mike Evans
- Sammy Watkins
- Allen Robinson
- Brandin Cooks
- Jordan Matthews
- Marqise Lee
- Donte Moncrief
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Martavis Bryant
- Sammy Watkins
- Mike Evans
- Brandin Cooks
- Davante Adams
- Allen Robinson
- Marqise Lee
- Jordan Matthews
- Odell Beckham, Jr.
- Donte Moncrief
- Martavis Bryant
I'm not a fan of his low TD production. Also from a probability standpoint, there will only be "so many" short WRs who develop into WR1s from this group and since I have both Lee and Cooks ahead of him, that bumps him down a bit. I use a combination of probability, tape and metrics to rank players all pretty evenly. The chances of this class producing three different 5'10 WRs who become WR1 is going to be very low. My goal when drafting players is to acquire elite players - I'm not going for safe. Not sure if that makes any sense to you but it does to meBeckham at 9 seems way low.