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[FreeBaGeL]

Why didn't McDaniel kick the field goal on 4th down, inside the 5 with 1:40 left in the game and the Commanders having no timeouts?

It wasn't "inside the 5". It was from the 1 foot line. I guarantee you 30 out of 32 NFL teams, at a minimum, choose to go for it there.

Is the one yard line not inside the 5 anymore?

They'd already gotten stuffed in a similar situation earlier in the game and Achane just had to leave the game for that 4th down play.

30 of 32 coaches don't go for it right there. You fail and the other team gets a shot to win with a FG. They got lucky.

The point is obviously there's a huge difference between the 5 yard line and the 1 foot line, so "inside the 5" is intentionally leaving out the important part. You could also say "in the redzone" and it would be technically correct, but obviously misleading.

No one is kicking there with 1:45 still left in the modern era. In 1995? Maybe.

 

[cockroach]

Why didn't McDaniel kick the field goal on 4th down, inside the 5 with 1:40 left in the game and the Commanders having no timeouts?

It wasn't "inside the 5". It was from the 1 foot line. I guarantee you 30 out of 32 NFL teams, at a minimum, choose to go for it there.

Is the one yard line not inside the 5 anymore?

They'd already gotten stuffed in a similar situation earlier in the game and Achane just had to leave the game for that 4th down play.

30 of 32 coaches don't go for it right there. You fail and the other team gets a shot to win with a FG. They got lucky.

Didn’t Achane get hurt on the 4th down play?

No, Gordon got stuffed on 4th.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I don’t know what the numbers said, but I thought going for it there (and Washington doing something similar with 6min left) was totally defensible. Your chances of converting are pretty high in that situation, and a TD leaves you in much better position than a FG

 

[Chaka]

Why didn't McDaniel kick the field goal on 4th down, inside the 5 with 1:40 left in the game and the Commanders having no timeouts?

It wasn't "inside the 5". It was from the 1 foot line. I guarantee you 30 out of 32 NFL teams, at a minimum, choose to go for it there.

Is the one yard line not inside the 5 anymore?

They'd already gotten stuffed in a similar situation earlier in the game and Achane just had to leave the game for that 4th down play.

30 of 32 coaches don't go for it right there. You fail and the other team gets a shot to win with a FG. They got lucky.

Didn’t Achane get hurt on the 4th down play?

3rd. I think Ollie got the 4th down try.

 

[msudaisy26]

I believe Dan Quinn loves defense so much that he let's his team run basic *** offense just so he can see more defensive stops.

 

[smbkrypt24]

I don’t know what the numbers said, but I thought going for it there (and Washington doing something similar with 6min left) was totally defensible. Your chances of converting are pretty high in that situation, and a TD leaves you in much better position than a FG

At any other point in the game I would say go for it. With it being tied and 2 minutes left I think it has to be kick the field goal.

 

[Chaka]

Why didn't McDaniel kick the field goal on 4th down, inside the 5 with 1:40 left in the game and the Commanders having no timeouts?

It wasn't "inside the 5". It was from the 1 foot line. I guarantee you 30 out of 32 NFL teams, at a minimum, choose to go for it there.

Is the one yard line not inside the 5 anymore?

They'd already gotten stuffed in a similar situation earlier in the game and Achane just had to leave the game for that 4th down play.

30 of 32 coaches don't go for it right there. You fail and the other team gets a shot to win with a FG. They got lucky.

The point is obviously there's a huge difference between the 5 yard line and the 1 foot line, so "inside the 5" is intentionally leaving out the important part. You could also say "in the redzone" and it would be technically correct, but obviously misleading.

No one is kicking there with 1:45 still left in the modern era. In 1995? Maybe.

I love that NFL coaches have finally caught up with Kevin Kelly. But, it isn't outrageously dated thinking at all to kick the FG there.

The D was playing well and had held them to 13 points to that point and the Commanders were out of time outs. And yhe Commanders best player all game (Rodriguez) is neutralized in that situation.

Kick the FG and tell your defense to go win the game which, they ended up doing.

 

[Tau837]

PHI had a 16-6 lead with under 4 minutes remaining. 3rd and 1 on their own 29. They used the tuch push and got stuffed. Obvious punt situation.

Yet they went for it on 4th and inches and got stuffed again, turning the ball over to DET in FG range. To their defense's credit, they stopped DET but gave them a 54 yard FG simply because of field position, enabling DET to make it a 1 score game with all 3 timeouts remaining.

Being aggressive is fine, but this was stupid.

 

[ghostguy123]

PHI had a 16-6 lead with under 4 minutes remaining. 3rd and 1 on their own 29. They used the tuch push and got stuffed. Obvious punt situation.

Yet they went for it on 4th and inches and got stuffed again, turning the ball over to DET in FG range. To their defense's credit, they stopped DET but gave them a 54 yard FG simply because of field position, enabling DET to make it a 1 score game with all 3 timeouts remaining.

Being aggressive is fine, but this was stupid.

Agreed, especially after watching Goff spike balls into the dirt all night.
That said, that right call there was to punt regardless of who you are and regardless of who you are playing

Meanwhile, the Lions didn't go for it on 4th TWICE in the 4th quarter when they should have. It was 4th and long, but you're down two scores with like 7 minutes left against a team that makes a habit out of 8 minutes drives

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Anyone familiar with my work on this site probably knows two things about me: I'm generally in favor of coaches being more aggressive on 4th down calls, and I love Dan Campbell in a way that multiple states would probably try to ban if they could.

All that said, I don't think he called a good game last night. It wasn't so much the decisions to keep going for it that bothered me, more that Campbell kept calling the same two plays: an interior run to Gibbs (never Monty) and a slow developing pass play that the Eagles DTs blew up. They’re usually so creative in those situations (then again, they did try to get creative on the fake punt and the Eagles sniffed that out, too).

When your interior OL is your Achilles Heel and you're facing some of the best DTs in the league, anything you try to do on offense will be hard. But the Lions knew all this coming in. They either needed to come up with a plan to overcome it or not keep risking everything on 4th down plays that didn't seem to have a chance

 

[JoeKappBudGrant]

Anyone familiar with my work on this site probably knows two things about me: I'm generally in favor of coaches being more aggressive on 4th down calls, and I love Dan Campbell in a way that multiple states would probably try to ban if they could.

All that said, I don't think he called a good game last night. It wasn't so much the decisions to keep going for it that bothered me, more that Campbell kept calling the same two plays: an interior run to Gibbs (never Monty) and a slow developing pass play that the Eagles DTs blew up. They’re usually so creative in those situations (then again, they did try to get creative on the fake punt and the Eagles sniffed that out, too).

When your interior OL is your Achilles Heel and you're facing some of the best DTs in the league, anything you try to do on offense will be hard. But the Lions knew all this coming in. They either needed to come up with a plan to overcome it or not keep risking everything on 4th down plays that didn't seem to have a chance

The top line on Dan's play sheet needs to read "Frank Ragnow is retired."