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So wait, it was your roster all along? LolBottom line is that roster isn't going to win it all this year imo, but I don't see how its a front runner for #1 pick as doowain has said. In a league like this if u can't deal rodgers for a top wr, u are being colluded against. You need to move a qb just as much says needs to move a handful of future 1sts. I can't imagine those are easier to move than rodgers.
I have been 3 steps ahead of doowain the entire time. During the draft I selected Rodgers at 1.09, R Mathews at 2.09, and Vick at 3.11. Even though Vick was a steal at 3.11, all of a sudden my 2012 1st round pick was traded 3-4 times, eventually landing with doowain. When he traded for my 2012 first in the draft, it was during the 4th round and there was all of 3 people on my roster. At this time, doowain decided that my roster would be terrible and it would be of great value if my 2012 landed at 1.01. I logged that moment in time and when he came into this thread publicly declaring he had a shot at the 2012 1.01, I got him to admit to my gut instinct from that moment in time during the draft.After that, I actually got him to admit on the boards that NO ONE is going to give a fair trade to my roster, in addition to other evidence I have been absorbing for the last week.This is collusion. doowain, I am calling you a cheater.
Look dude. You made some...interesting...picks. And when you have that many QBs, the fact that everyone knows it doesn't make it collusion. In a startup last year a guy took Brady and Rodgers and someone else high and the very first comment on the Brady pick was "Yeah, like anyone's gonna give you fair value since we all know you're gonna need to trade one of them..."And it wasn't collusion. Somebody pointing out someone else's error is not collusion. You need to move on.
 
So wait, it was your roster all along? LolBottom line is that roster isn't going to win it all this year imo, but I don't see how its a front runner for #1 pick as doowain has said. In a league like this if u can't deal rodgers for a top wr, u are being colluded against. You need to move a qb just as much says needs to move a handful of future 1sts. I can't imagine those are easier to move than rodgers.
I have been 3 steps ahead of doowain the entire time. During the draft I selected Rodgers at 1.09, R Mathews at 2.09, and Vick at 3.11. Even though Vick was a steal at 3.11, all of a sudden my 2012 1st round pick was traded 3-4 times, eventually landing with doowain. When he traded for my 2012 first in the draft, it was during the 4th round and there was all of 3 people on my roster. At this time, doowain decided that my roster would be terrible and it would be of great value if my 2012 landed at 1.01. I logged that moment in time and when he came into this thread publicly declaring he had a shot at the 2012 1.01, I got him to admit to my gut instinct from that moment in time during the draft.After that, I actually got him to admit on the boards that NO ONE is going to give a fair trade to my roster, in addition to other evidence I have been absorbing for the last week.This is collusion. doowain, I am calling you a cheater.
Look dude. You made some...interesting...picks. And when you have that many QBs, the fact that everyone knows it doesn't make it collusion. In a startup last year a guy took Brady and Rodgers and someone else high and the very first comment on the Brady pick was "Yeah, like anyone's gonna give you fair value since we all know you're gonna need to trade one of them..."And it wasn't collusion. Somebody pointing out someone else's error is not collusion. You need to move on.
You seem oddly interested in getting me to drop this.
 
I would like doowain back in here. Doowain, are you sure I cannot trade one of my QBs with the league? How are you so sure? Remember, I am 3 steps ahead of you.

 
You don't have a leg to stand on, guy. Props to Doowain to see that you were going to have a terrible draft before anyone else and acquiring a top 3 pick for probably an undervalued price.

There is no collusion going on here.

 
I have all other 10 owners in the league on puppet strings! They will never trade with you. EVER. Muhahaha.

Come on.

 
You don't have a leg to stand on, guy.
All in good time, my douchy friend. Waiting on doowain.
Could you perhaps just leave the thread and take your whiny-### crap to your own league, or start another thread? This one is meant for strategy discussion, not a pissing match.
Yes, I will. This is an inappropriate forum for this "pissing match". Your interference added nothing to the conversation, but you are right that this is the incorrect forum for the conversation.I will leave doowain with this. I know what happened in the bathroom that you want to keep secret. I am not interested in my 2012 1st back, but I am very interested in your 2012 1st.
 
How does he expect to get even close to market value for the QBs if we all know he HAS to trade them?I have options. That's what the strategy allows. You aren't backed into a corner.
I hear what you are saying. However, I am just wondering if this team "HAS to trade them" to compete. Let's say that this owner will not trade one of his top dynasty QBs for anything less than premium value and he gets no trade partners. How does the rest of the roster look at each position.There are other ways to improve a team besides trade, such as waivers. What is the waiver situation?
doowain did not get back to me on this, so I went to the MFL page to check the waivers situation. The league is set up with blind bidding waivers with a starting budget of $1000.Jokers Wild $-200.00 $800.00George Spicey $0.00 $1000.00Honey BADgers $0.00 $1000.00Polk High TD $0.00 $1000.00Blitzers $0.00 $1000.00Team RamRod $+100.00 $1100.00FSUfan $0.00 $1000.00Big F'n Dynasty $0.00 $1000.00Devil's Agents $0.00 $1000.00Burn The Boats $-100.00 $900.00drogoNFLy $+600.00 $160.00The Megatrons $-400.00 $600.00The team in question has $1600 blind bidding dollars, not $1000. This must mean that the league allows trading of blind bidding dollars and team dragoNFLy has collected them. This draft was done both before free agency and training camp. You would have to assume that this team has plans to pick up the Peyton Hillis/B Lloyd of 2012.
In light of your later posts..... :shock: WOOOOOWWW... :lmao:
 
You don't have a leg to stand on, guy.
All in good time, my douchy friend. Waiting on doowain.
Could you perhaps just leave the thread and take your whiny-### crap to your own league, or start another thread? This one is meant for strategy discussion, not a pissing match.
Yes, I will. This is an inappropriate forum for this "pissing match". Your interference added nothing to the conversation, but you are right that this is the incorrect forum for the conversation.I will leave doowain with this. I know what happened in the bathroom that you want to keep secret. I am not interested in my 2012 1st back, but I am very interested in your 2012 1st.
:lmao:
 
I'm not in this league, but I think "collusion" here is a strong word. He's simply stating the obvious: you have three startable, hell, even elite QB's...they dont do you any good rotting on the bench, so for your draft strategy to "pay off" (unless you drafted then to sit on them?), you basically HAVE to trade at least one. And anytime you HAVE to trade someone, it's very tough to get full value, unless there's a bidding war. And everyone in your league should be smart enough to know that...but because he says it out loud it's collusion?I agree posting the PM'd roster, and then discussing it openly, was not the best thing he could do. But from an outsiders perspective, I don't see his posts as anything approaching signs of collusion.
Yea I don't understand what that guy was thinking because you know he had to spend early picks on all 3 of them qbs... I got ROMO 8.9 Kolb 13.4 and LOCKER 15.8. Wow that just wasn't smart drafting
 
I'm not in this league, but I think "collusion" here is a strong word. He's simply stating the obvious: you have three startable, hell, even elite QB's...they dont do you any good rotting on the bench, so for your draft strategy to "pay off" (unless you drafted then to sit on them?), you basically HAVE to trade at least one. And anytime you HAVE to trade someone, it's very tough to get full value, unless there's a bidding war. And everyone in your league should be smart enough to know that...but because he says it out loud it's collusion?I agree posting the PM'd roster, and then discussing it openly, was not the best thing he could do. But from an outsiders perspective, I don't see his posts as anything approaching signs of collusion.
Yea I don't understand what that guy was thinking because you know he had to spend early picks on all 3 of them qbs... I got ROMO 8.9 Kolb 13.4 and LOCKER 15.8. Wow that just wasn't smart drafting
Stop colluding!!!!!11
 
Posted it earlier but here is the team I got in a 16 teamer.

QB: Romo, Henne

RB: Charles, Vereen, Powell, LT, Tolbert, Alex Green, Donald Brown, Allen Bradford, Tyrell Sutton

WR: Mike Williams TB, Miles Austin, Collie, J. Simpson, Titus Young, R. Williams, D. Moore, L. Evans, Ajiratutu, Gaffeny

TE: Tony G, Moeaki, Julius Thomas, Bennett

I have what I consider pretty good IDPs. Originally I drafted Green-Ellis to be my 2nd back, but I jumped ship after the drafting of Vereen and Ridley for what I thought was a good price (Powell, Titus Young, and Lee Evans).

 
Posted it earlier but here is the team I got in a 16 teamer.QB: Romo, HenneRB: Charles, Vereen, Powell, LT, Tolbert, Alex Green, Donald Brown, Allen Bradford, Tyrell SuttonWR: Mike Williams TB, Miles Austin, Collie, J. Simpson, Titus Young, R. Williams, D. Moore, L. Evans, Ajiratutu, GaffenyTE: Tony G, Moeaki, Julius Thomas, BennettI have what I consider pretty good IDPs. Originally I drafted Green-Ellis to be my 2nd back, but I jumped ship after the drafting of Vereen and Ridley for what I thought was a good price (Powell, Titus Young, and Lee Evans).
You have 3 really good players with a bunch of crapshoots. In a 16 team league that's ok, but i doubt you're one of the top 8 teams.
 
Stupid things like this is why I rarely post.

I'm over it. And over offering up my opinion in these discussions.

 
12 team startup

QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / TE / 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE) / K / D/ST

PPR, 1.5 PPR for TEs

I think I did OK. Based on some of the other teams, it should at least be in contention this year (and probably the next 2). One team in this league accumulated 10 2012 first round picks, but his first actual pick wasn't until the 5th round. This is my first dynasty league, but it seems to to me that he's going to have some interesting decisions the next couple of offseasons when it comes time to cut his roster down to 20.

Here is my team:

Brady, Flacco

Mendenhall, Lynch, F. Jackson, Sproles, Forsett, Redman, Ridley, Alex Green, Royster, Todman, Dion Lewis

Fitzgerald, Bowe, Welker, Holmes, Sa. Moss, Sims-Walker, Damian Williams

Winslow, Watson, Housler

Rackers

Bears D/ST

 
Can we please see the roster of the owner with 10 2012 1sts and no pick till the 5th? Might not look TOO horrible if he had 5-6 picks in the 5th-6th round from trade backs.

 
Can we please see the roster of the owner with 10 2012 1sts and no pick till the 5th? Might not look TOO horrible if he had 5-6 picks in the 5th-6th round from trade backs.
Sure. He had three 5ths, three 6ths, and two 7ths. And I forgot to mention he also has 4 2013 firsts. I didn't trade either of mine to him.Schaub, KolbRyan Williams, Leshoure, Murray, Torain, M. Bush, D. Brown, B. Scott, ChoiceJulio Jones, S. Rice, Colston, Meachem, Ochocinco, E. Sanders, J. Baldwin, D. Alexander, Demaryius Thomas, M. Floyd, Cobb, LaFell, DickersonOwen Daniels, Brent CelekLions D/ST
 
12 team startup

QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / TE / 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE) / K / D/ST

PPR, 1.5 PPR for TEs

I think I did OK. Based on some of the other teams, it should at least be in contention this year (and probably the next 2). One team in this league accumulated 10 2012 first round picks, but his first actual pick wasn't until the 5th round. This is my first dynasty league, but it seems to to me that he's going to have some interesting decisions the next couple of offseasons when it comes time to cut his roster down to 20.

Here is my team:

Brady, Flacco

Mendenhall, Lynch, F. Jackson, Sproles, Forsett, Redman, Ridley, Alex Green, Royster, Todman, Dion Lewis

Fitzgerald, Bowe, Welker, Holmes, Sa. Moss, Sims-Walker, Damian Williams

Winslow, Watson, Housler

Rackers

Bears D/ST
Quarterbacks you probably have like the 6th or 7th plus a good backup so you are fine there.

Runningbacks- Mendenhall is a nice low tier rb1 but after that you struggle mightly. Freddy and Lynch both are not very good and you do not really have a good young RB either so I think you are struggling there.

Wide Receivers-You are in pretty good shape here. I am not in love with it but everyone for the most part is solid. Moss doesnt make much sense with this roster to me but mehhh. Fitz is a mid wr1 bowe is a high 2 and Welker is probably mid to low 2 that is old. Overall I think you are fine here though.

Tight End- You are severly weak. Winslow is pretty brutal and I doubt he hits TE1 and Watson is not good at all either. Housler is a prospect who could be mehh but overall you have a high TE2 High TE3 both on the downslope with noone really behind. I just cant imagine you couldnt have gotten Aaron Hernandez, Pettigrew, Zach Miller instead of these guys.

Overall I would say this team is probably in the bottom half fighting for a playoff spot type of team which is not that good considering quite a few of the pieces are older. I see this team needing a solid rb2 and a new Tight End before this team can really compete and needs to get some younger pieces as well.

Could you post the team who has 10 2012 firsts??? I am interested in seeing what it looks like.

 
Can we please see the roster of the owner with 10 2012 1sts and no pick till the 5th? Might not look TOO horrible if he had 5-6 picks in the 5th-6th round from trade backs.
Sure. He had three 5ths, three 6ths, and two 7ths. And I forgot to mention he also has 4 2013 firsts. I didn't trade either of mine to him.Schaub, KolbRyan Williams, Leshoure, Murray, Torain, M. Bush, D. Brown, B. Scott, ChoiceJulio Jones, S. Rice, Colston, Meachem, Ochocinco, E. Sanders, J. Baldwin, D. Alexander, Demaryius Thomas, M. Floyd, Cobb, LaFell, DickersonOwen Daniels, Brent CelekLions D/ST
Man love this roster for him not going to lie. He has 3 young rookie rbs and another one in don Brown and Mike Bush. Plus he has Torain so overall he could end up with a couple solid Rbs here. Loveee his WR's. Jones Rice and Colston are all solid and he has Cobb Sanders and a couple other young ones as well. His TE's are already solid and probably ahead of where yours are. The Lions D could be veryyyyyyy good in a couple years as well and end up being a top tier defense. Then when you add in 10 firsts next year and 4 the following year this team could be scary good in a couple years.
 
Doesn't look as bad as I expected. Although with a team like that, I'm not even sure why you'd basically waste picks on guys like Ochocinco and Colston. At least he might be able to flip Colston to a contender.

Hopefully hes smart enough to keep the top 3-4 picks next year, and package the rest with a couple players to aqcuire some young studs. Because there's no way he should actually use them all and have ten 1st rounders developing on the bench.

 
Doesn't look as bad as I expected. Although with a team like that, I'm not even sure why you'd basically waste picks on guys like Ochocinco and Colston. At least he might be able to flip Colston to a contender.Hopefully hes smart enough to keep the top 3-4 picks next year, and package the rest with a couple players to aqcuire some young studs. Because there's no way he should actually use them all and have ten 1st rounders developing on the bench.
I agree with Ocho that seems stupid to me he should basically have noone over age of 25 on that team. Colston I can live with becasue as you said he can probably move him but based on where Colston has been going I have to think a nice young player was avaliable.Also completely agree with 2nd part. I would rather be in these shoes than the OP's shoes.
 
Quarterbacks you probably have like the 6th or 7th plus a good backup so you are fine there.Runningbacks- Mendenhall is a nice low tier rb1 but after that you struggle mightly. Freddy and Lynch both are not very good and you do not really have a good young RB either so I think you are struggling there.Wide Receivers-You are in pretty good shape here. I am not in love with it but everyone for the most part is solid. Moss doesnt make much sense with this roster to me but mehhh. Fitz is a mid wr1 bowe is a high 2 and Welker is probably mid to low 2 that is old. Overall I think you are fine here though.Tight End- You are severly weak. Winslow is pretty brutal and I doubt he hits TE1 and Watson is not good at all either. Housler is a prospect who could be mehh but overall you have a high TE2 High TE3 both on the downslope with noone really behind. I just cant imagine you couldnt have gotten Aaron Hernandez, Pettigrew, Zach Miller instead of these guys.Overall I would say this team is probably in the bottom half fighting for a playoff spot type of team which is not that good considering quite a few of the pieces are older. I see this team needing a solid rb2 and a new Tight End before this team can really compete and needs to get some younger pieces as well.
That's fair. I do think you're selling Winslow a little short though. He's finished as TE#8 and TE#7 the last two years in this format. I do need a young TE, but all three of the guys you mentioned were drafted fairly early.
 
Ochocinco turned 33 in Jan. and is expected to sign elsewhere this year. NE?

So he could turn in 2 more good years in the right spot. If you start 3 wr you could do worse than him at wr3.

If you get him late enough I can see any owner picking him for a bounceback.

In this guys case he could put him in a package with a pick and upgrade/ get younger for an NFL proven player.

 
Quarterbacks you probably have like the 6th or 7th plus a good backup so you are fine there.Runningbacks- Mendenhall is a nice low tier rb1 but after that you struggle mightly. Freddy and Lynch both are not very good and you do not really have a good young RB either so I think you are struggling there.Wide Receivers-You are in pretty good shape here. I am not in love with it but everyone for the most part is solid. Moss doesnt make much sense with this roster to me but mehhh. Fitz is a mid wr1 bowe is a high 2 and Welker is probably mid to low 2 that is old. Overall I think you are fine here though.Tight End- You are severly weak. Winslow is pretty brutal and I doubt he hits TE1 and Watson is not good at all either. Housler is a prospect who could be mehh but overall you have a high TE2 High TE3 both on the downslope with noone really behind. I just cant imagine you couldnt have gotten Aaron Hernandez, Pettigrew, Zach Miller instead of these guys.Overall I would say this team is probably in the bottom half fighting for a playoff spot type of team which is not that good considering quite a few of the pieces are older. I see this team needing a solid rb2 and a new Tight End before this team can really compete and needs to get some younger pieces as well.
That's fair. I do think you're selling Winslow a little short though. He's finished as TE#8 and TE#7 the last two years in this format. I do need a young TE, but all three of the guys you mentioned were drafted fairly early.
Ehhh I am still giving him high 2. List of TE's I would preferFinleyGatesGrahamDavisWittenClarkMiller DanielslewisCooleyGreshamHernandez/Gronkowski (probably only Hernandez but thats me)PettigrewKellerCookTony GonzalezCelekGreg OlsenThat would put Winslow as my 19th TE.
 
Ochocinco turned 33 in Jan. and is expected to sign elsewhere this year. NE?So he could turn in 2 more good years in the right spot. If you start 3 wr you could do worse than him at wr3.If you get him late enough I can see any owner picking him for a bounceback.In this guys case he could put him in a package with a pick and upgrade/ get younger for an NFL proven player.
I cant see a team that is competing needing to add Ocho to his roster to improve his chances...just saying.Ocho is good on competing teams where he can be like WR5 where he can come in on a bye week or in case there is a big injury problem otherwise a competing team is not going to give up anything to aquire him as a stop gap when there are plenty better ones out there.
 
Don't like Celek over Winslow with Vick there, he just isn't big on utilizing him it seems. To make matters worse, Celek put on weight this offseason to help with his blocking duties. *shudder*

Agree with many on your list for dynasty though.

 
Don't like Celek over Winslow with Vick there, he just isn't big on utilizing him it seems. To make matters worse, Celek put on weight this offseason to help with his blocking duties. *shudder*Agree with many on your list for dynasty though.
You could insert Heath Miller there as well though. Agree with Celek Vick ruined him pretty much but I would still rather have him at 26 than Winslow at an old 28.
 
Ochocinco turned 33 in Jan. and is expected to sign elsewhere this year. NE?So he could turn in 2 more good years in the right spot. If you start 3 wr you could do worse than him at wr3.If you get him late enough I can see any owner picking him for a bounceback.In this guys case he could put him in a package with a pick and upgrade/ get younger for an NFL proven player.
I cant see a team that is competing needing to add Ocho to his roster to improve his chances...just saying.Ocho is good on competing teams where he can be like WR5 where he can come in on a bye week or in case there is a big injury problem otherwise a competing team is not going to give up anything to aquire him as a stop gap when there are plenty better ones out there.
It's interesting to me that people can buy Marshall having a bounce back year with the dreck at qb for Miami but cant see Ocho posting good #'s with Brady on the other end.I think Ocho escapes cinci and gets 2 good yrs of production elsewhere. JMO. WR3 or better .
 
Well that is becuase last year even with Chad Henne's awfulness in Miami Marshall had 81 catches in 14 games...puts him on pace to be over 90 on the season WITH CHAD HENNE. He is only 27 years of age compared to Ocho's 33. Not coming off an injury which I believe if I am not mistaken Ocho is. He had over 100 receptions every year dating back to 06 not including last year. Those are just a few important reasons.

Also it is more that Ocho makes 0 sense on this team. WR3+ numbers are all fine and dandy but when you may be the number 1 WR it doenst really matter lol.

 
Well that is becuase last year even with Chad Henne's awfulness in Miami Marshall had 81 catches in 14 games...puts him on pace to be over 90 on the season WITH CHAD HENNE. He is only 27 years of age compared to Ocho's 33. Not coming off an injury which I believe if I am not mistaken Ocho is. He had over 100 receptions every year dating back to 06 not including last year. Those are just a few important reasons.Also it is more that Ocho makes 0 sense on this team. WR3+ numbers are all fine and dandy but when you may be the number 1 WR it doenst really matter lol.
Could you please unpack that last sentence a little bit? On a team that is thisclose to a championship and could use an upgrade at wr3 to put him over the top he could fetch a decent return especially with a pick thrown in. This is assuming he does have a bounceback year. And if he doesnt, not much lost.And I assumed that any discussion involving these 2 players might mention that 85 could be had a certain TEN RDS later. I mean I get the age diff and all that. We are not talking about long term value here. We're talking about why a guy with an overall young team might take 85 late and see if he could flip him at the right time. It's not that advanced a concept.
 
I think he's saying that if Ocho constitutes an UPGRADE at WR3, maybe that team's not "thisclose" to being able to win it all in the first place.

Could be wrong though.

 
No ur right sir
I like Gronkowski better then hernandez.. People forget Gronk had 10 tds for a rookie.. how many tes had 10 tds last year, that weren't even rookies... not many... Gronk is 21 and will be a perennial pro bowler for years to come...
 
Ochocinco turned 33 in Jan. and is expected to sign elsewhere this year. NE?So he could turn in 2 more good years in the right spot. If you start 3 wr you could do worse than him at wr3.If you get him late enough I can see any owner picking him for a bounceback.In this guys case he could put him in a package with a pick and upgrade/ get younger for an NFL proven player.
Bingo!!Got Ocho super late and now he has a chance to way out perform his cost.I love this game.
 
Bump. Anyone had a dynasty draft that has started since the FA movement?

I suspect that really changed the value of a ton of guys....

 

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