thriftyrocker
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Isn't not being completely wrecked much more valuable than heart or determination
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Post Your 2013 Dynasty Rookie Draft (1 Viewer)
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cstu
Footballguy
Not IMO. Michael was an under-achiever and will likely be an under-achiever in the NFL. I'd rather take my chances on a guy that has his coach say this about him:
Jeremy
Footballguy
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Nice getting both.
pyite76
Footballguy
Draft starting Sunday around noon, CST.
12 team, no PPR, Superflex with full IDP;
Start:
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1Flex (QB/RB/WR/TE), 1Flex (RB,WR,TE), 1TE, 1K
IDP: 3DL; 4LB; 3DB
http://football29.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=26975&O=17
12 team, no PPR, Superflex with full IDP;
Start:
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1Flex (QB/RB/WR/TE), 1Flex (RB,WR,TE), 1TE, 1K
IDP: 3DL; 4LB; 3DB
http://football29.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=26975&O=17
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Traded Lamichael James, and the 2.3 for Marcel Reece and the 1.12..
I wanted to hold onto James, but locking down the GB RB situation seemed more important. James is likely RB3 where he sits. Very talented, but not a likely starter anytime soon..
I also own Darren McFadden and Taiwan Jones, so Reece locks things up there for me as well..
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cstu
Footballguy
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Yea that's perfect for guys that might have plug-in value now.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
Does locking up so many roster spots work for you? I have never tried that approach. I assume this makes you miss out on many WW adds.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
12 team, 1 PPR, 6 pt TD's, premium for TE (.2 pts/yd)
http://football30.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=37209&O=17
Total Starters: 9 Number of Starting QBs: 1 Number of Starting RBs: 2 Number of Starting WRs: 2-3 Number of Starting TEs: 1-2 Number of Starting PKs: 1 Number of Starting Defs: 1
http://football30.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=37209&O=17
Total Starters: 9 Number of Starting QBs: 1 Number of Starting RBs: 2 Number of Starting WRs: 2-3 Number of Starting TEs: 1-2 Number of Starting PKs: 1 Number of Starting Defs: 1
12 team Superflex PPR (heavy QB scoring)
http://football7.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=56985&O=17
http://football7.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=56985&O=17
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
12 Team IDP contract salary league
Crazy start but it should be noted that rookie RB contracts cost 2x more than a WR, which is why I passed on Lacy and Gio twice
http://football2.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=33845&O=17
Crazy start but it should be noted that rookie RB contracts cost 2x more than a WR, which is why I passed on Lacy and Gio twice
http://football2.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=33845&O=17
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12 team start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 K, 1 D 1 RB/WR/TE flex
http://football20.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=44325&O=17
http://football20.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=44325&O=17
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I could understand that pushing Austin, Patterson, and maybe even Hopkins ahead of them. But Justin Hunter? Eh... Sounds like over-thinking it.
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cstu
Footballguy
I can understand taking Hunter over Lacy, but not Bernard.
Tenacious D (not me, BTW) lucked out getting Bernard at 1.9.
pyite76
Footballguy
Done. I was L.V 76ers.
12 Team, full IDP, salaries & contracts, FLEX starters (don't have to start a RB), staggered PPR, TE premium.
I'm torn on what to do at 1.07...
http://football32.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=27438&O=17
I'm torn on what to do at 1.07...
http://football32.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=27438&O=17
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http://football9.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=12779&O=17
Dynasty league, ppr, IDP, pretty interesting for sure. I'm Zen Master btw. Didn't need a QB (have Rogers & Russell Wilson), but felt I had to take EJ where I got him. Also, I have DMAC, so that may help explain the Murray pick. Anyway, please let me know if you have any questions, and I hope this helps some of y'all!
Zen
EDIT TO ADD ROSTERS http://football9.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=12779&O=07
Dynasty league, ppr, IDP, pretty interesting for sure. I'm Zen Master btw. Didn't need a QB (have Rogers & Russell Wilson), but felt I had to take EJ where I got him. Also, I have DMAC, so that may help explain the Murray pick. Anyway, please let me know if you have any questions, and I hope this helps some of y'all!
Zen
EDIT TO ADD ROSTERS http://football9.myfantasyleague.com/2013/options?L=12779&O=07
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ptsteelers
Footballguy
I love the stat at the end that shows the average wait time. The guy with second to most ... team "CANT WAIT"
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I really like the look of the league page. Something different.I love the stat at the end that shows the average wait time. The guy with second to most ... team "CANT WAIT"
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
14 team 0.5 PPR qb, 2rb, 2r, te, rb/wr, rb/wr/te
1.1 Tavon Austin
1.2 Gio Bernard
1.3 Eddie Lacy
1.4 Cordarrelle Patterson
1.5 DeAndre Hopkins
1.6 LeVeon Bell
1.7 Montee Ball
1.8 Keenan Allen
1.9 EJ Manuel
1.10 Marcus Lattimore
1.11 Zac Stacy
1.12 Jonathon Franklin
1.13 Tyler Eiffert
1.14 Zach Ertz
2.1 Justin Hunter
2.2 Travis Kelce
2.3 Christine Michael
2.4 Markus Wheaton
2.5 Robert Woods
2.6 Aaron Dobson
2.7 Geno Smith
2.8 Da'Rick Rogers
2.9 Joseph Randle
2.10 Quinton Patton
2.12 Josh Boyce
2.13 Ryan Swope
2.14 Matt Barkley
2.11 (timed out) Andre Ellingon
3.1 Ryan Nassib
3.2 Marquess Wilson
1.1 Tavon Austin
1.2 Gio Bernard
1.3 Eddie Lacy
1.4 Cordarrelle Patterson
1.5 DeAndre Hopkins
1.6 LeVeon Bell
1.7 Montee Ball
1.8 Keenan Allen
1.9 EJ Manuel
1.10 Marcus Lattimore
1.11 Zac Stacy
1.12 Jonathon Franklin
1.13 Tyler Eiffert
1.14 Zach Ertz
2.1 Justin Hunter
2.2 Travis Kelce
2.3 Christine Michael
2.4 Markus Wheaton
2.5 Robert Woods
2.6 Aaron Dobson
2.7 Geno Smith
2.8 Da'Rick Rogers
2.9 Joseph Randle
2.10 Quinton Patton
2.12 Josh Boyce
2.13 Ryan Swope
2.14 Matt Barkley
2.11 (timed out) Andre Ellingon
3.1 Ryan Nassib
3.2 Marquess Wilson
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Well, they're going to be on someones roster right? Why not mine? The worst feeling is when you have a RB go down and you need his replacement and someone else in the league snags him up..
I do understand what you're saying though, but we have 30 player rosters in this league. So, I'll still have room for ww moves.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
Ohh cool, I didn't realize you had 30 players on your roster. I guess I could have checked. That makes a pretty big difference.
I'm not posting drafts due to owners in these leagues having other upcoming drafts but just to highlight the lack of consensus. I'm in 3 drafts, all 12 team leagues, one league is PPR across he board and all leagues are PPR for RB and WR with one league awarding 1.25 PPR to TE and the other awarding 1.5 PPR to TE.
In one league Lacy went 1.1. He went 1.7 in another.
In one league Patterson went 1.1. He went 1.7 in the other and was eventually traded for 2.3 and 2.4.
In one league Bell went 1.2 and 1.6 in another. In the league he went 1.2 he was eventually traded for the 1.3 and 1.9.
Austin has ranged from 1.2 to 1.5.
The closest thing I've seen to a consensus is that Gio has not made it out of the top 3.
In one league Lacy went 1.1. He went 1.7 in another.
In one league Patterson went 1.1. He went 1.7 in the other and was eventually traded for 2.3 and 2.4.
In one league Bell went 1.2 and 1.6 in another. In the league he went 1.2 he was eventually traded for the 1.3 and 1.9.
Austin has ranged from 1.2 to 1.5.
The closest thing I've seen to a consensus is that Gio has not made it out of the top 3.
Shutout
Footballguy
That's good info. Thanks.
I kind of think I will be seeing that in my leagues too. Really is not a consensus.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Gio went 1.04 this morning in mine. Bell, Ball and Tavon went 1-3 respectively (all to the same owner).
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I am in a 10 Team PPR, Superflex and Gio is still on the board at 1.6. Our draft went Ball, Bell, Lacy, Austin, Hopkins. I am not up until 2.4.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Was expecting the RBs to take a back seat to the WRs a bit this year. Doesn't look like it's going that way at all. Right after the draft, everyone was arguing Cordarrelle or Tavon with the 1.01 and they are quite often going outside of the top 3, with Patterson slipping out of the top 5 quite often. Gio was a consensus top 3 who is also going later than expected this week.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Just like the discussion on all of these players. This is the manifestation of that. I have my other main league draft in late June. It;s not a PPR, and RB heavy, so I'm guessing Tavon might go as late as 5 in that league except for the fact that it's all guys in St. Louis so the homer factor will drive his value up...
Adam Harstad
Moderator
There seems to be a very solid consensus forming that the top 7 are Austin, Hopkins, Patterson, Bernard, Bell, Ball, and Lacy in one order or another. Looking through the rookie drafts, you're almost always seeing at least 6 of those guys (and often all 7) in the first 7 picks off the board. Within those 7 picks, though, you're definitely getting a lot of movement.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
This always happens. People fall for the Daniel Thomases of the draft and let the riskier, or perhaps slower-developing, talent slip.
ptsteelers
Footballguy
Well I can tell you now, as an owner that was lucky enough to have the first 2 picks in this years awesome draft <_< (and then moving up to ensure I got my third wanted player) that the following will be our leagues first three picks:(12 team QbRbWrWrFxTeKD non-PPR)1.01 - Bell1.02 - Patterson1.03 - Hopkins
And that just showcases the lack of consensus
And that just showcases the lack of consensus
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
ptsteelers
Footballguy
Very true. But I am sitting with Richardson and Martin (and Hillman *cough* ... ahem), so not a must have situation. However, knowing me, I would've probably still done it regardless.
B Maverick
Footballguy
start 2 qb, 2 rb, 4 wr, 2 te, 1 def, 1 k
PPR, 4 points for all tds
sorry about the formatting. Lattimore went too early IMO, but owner didnt have other picks and really wanted him
1.1
Rb Eddie Lacy 1.2
Qb EJ Manuel 1.3
Wr C.Patterson 1.4
Rb G.Bernard 1.5
Rb L.Bell 1.6
Rb M.Ball 1.7
Wr T.Austin 1.8
Qb G.Smith 1.9
Rb M.Lattimore 1.1
Te Z.Ertz 1.11
Wr R.Woods 1.12
Te T.Eifert
2.1
Wr D.Hopkins 2.2
Wr J.Hunter 2.3
Qb M.Barkley 2.4
Rb C.Michael 2.5
Rb J.Franklin 2.6
Wr K.Allen 2.7
Te T.Kelce 2.8
Rb J.Randle 2.9
Wr K.Stills 2.1
Qb T.Wilson 2.11
Qb M.Glennon 2.12
Wr M.Wheaton
3.1
Rb S.Taylor 3.2
Rb Z.Stacy 3.3.
Wr S.Bailey 3.4
Rb K.Barnor 3.5
Wr A.Dobson 3.6
no pick forfit in supp draft 3.7
Rb D.Robinson 3.8
Wr T.Williams 3.9
Rb M.Gillislee 3.1
Te G.Escobar 3.11
Rb K.Davis 3.12
Qb L.Jones
4.1
Rb A.Ellington 4.2
Wr Q.Patton 4.3
Te J.Reed 4.4
Wr J.Boyce 4.5
Wr M.Goodwin 4.6
Te V.McDonald 4.7
Wr D.Rogers 4.8
Rb K.Williams 4.9
Wr C.Harper 4.1
Rb L.Murray 4.11
Qb R.Nassib 4.12
Wr A.Sanders
5.1
Wr M.Wilson 5.2
Qb T.Bray 5.3
Qb M . Scott 5.4
Rb R. Rouse 5.5
Te D. Sims 5.6
Wr M. Mallette 5.7
Rb M.James 5.8
Qb T. Dyzart 5.9
Wr R. Swope 5.1
Wr T. King 5.11
Te M.RIveria 5.12
Wr C. Fuller
PPR, 4 points for all tds
sorry about the formatting. Lattimore went too early IMO, but owner didnt have other picks and really wanted him
1.1
Rb Eddie Lacy 1.2
Qb EJ Manuel 1.3
Wr C.Patterson 1.4
Rb G.Bernard 1.5
Rb L.Bell 1.6
Rb M.Ball 1.7
Wr T.Austin 1.8
Qb G.Smith 1.9
Rb M.Lattimore 1.1
Te Z.Ertz 1.11
Wr R.Woods 1.12
Te T.Eifert
2.1
Wr D.Hopkins 2.2
Wr J.Hunter 2.3
Qb M.Barkley 2.4
Rb C.Michael 2.5
Rb J.Franklin 2.6
Wr K.Allen 2.7
Te T.Kelce 2.8
Rb J.Randle 2.9
Wr K.Stills 2.1
Qb T.Wilson 2.11
Qb M.Glennon 2.12
Wr M.Wheaton
3.1
Rb S.Taylor 3.2
Rb Z.Stacy 3.3.
Wr S.Bailey 3.4
Rb K.Barnor 3.5
Wr A.Dobson 3.6
no pick forfit in supp draft 3.7
Rb D.Robinson 3.8
Wr T.Williams 3.9
Rb M.Gillislee 3.1
Te G.Escobar 3.11
Rb K.Davis 3.12
Qb L.Jones
4.1
Rb A.Ellington 4.2
Wr Q.Patton 4.3
Te J.Reed 4.4
Wr J.Boyce 4.5
Wr M.Goodwin 4.6
Te V.McDonald 4.7
Wr D.Rogers 4.8
Rb K.Williams 4.9
Wr C.Harper 4.1
Rb L.Murray 4.11
Qb R.Nassib 4.12
Wr A.Sanders
5.1
Wr M.Wilson 5.2
Qb T.Bray 5.3
Qb M . Scott 5.4
Rb R. Rouse 5.5
Te D. Sims 5.6
Wr M. Mallette 5.7
Rb M.James 5.8
Qb T. Dyzart 5.9
Wr R. Swope 5.1
Wr T. King 5.11
Te M.RIveria 5.12
Wr C. Fuller
Except for TE heavy leagues that's spot on. I had thought going in it was a top 7 with Hopkins kind of by himself at 7 but that's not how it's going.Adam Harstad said:
In PPR+ TE leagues you are seeing Eifert creep into this group. In my 1.5 PPR league he went 7th, pushing Hopkins to 8 and in my 1.25 TE PPR league he went 5th and that's the league Lacy went 7th and Ball got pushed to 8th.
Shutout
Footballguy
By definition, consensus is an agreement, unanimity. Having variables to a 7th factor is not consensus. Having so many different variations 7 deep is proof that there is no consensus and it is wide open. A general consensus would be "9 out of 10 drafts are going with TRICH as the 1st pick in the draft and almost 100% going with TRICH as the 1st RB taken." We can't just keep expanding the selection ppol to try to manufacture a consensus. That would be like saying "we have a solid consensus among the 50 states that agree that they all rank in top 50, to some degree or another." This is anything but a consensus. This is "ask 100 leagues and you might get 90 different answers" and that shows strongly that there is no consensus at the top of this draft.
That's a little to deep for me man. Can we just agree that in non TE heavy leagues the same 7 guys are going at the top in various random orders?
ptsteelers
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Zealots 15: Non-ppr, all tds 6 pts, IDP
Interesting start so far.
1.1 - Montee Ball
1.2 - Le'Von Bell
1.3 - Eddie Lacy
1.4 - Giovani Bernard
1.5 - Cordarrelle Patterson
1.6 - Marcus Lattimore
That last pick is brutal.
Interesting start so far.
1.1 - Montee Ball
1.2 - Le'Von Bell
1.3 - Eddie Lacy
1.4 - Giovani Bernard
1.5 - Cordarrelle Patterson
1.6 - Marcus Lattimore
That last pick is brutal.
he keeps rising!
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
There are guys that can take Lattimore that high. Teams stacked at RB and may only have 1 pick, or no chance to get him later. With so many question marks about every single guy in the first round, I get it. Even the guy I thought was can't miss went to Cinci and now even Eiffert has a question mark. I think going Montee Ball with the first is crazy... I also think Bernard will be a 3rd down back only so him going in the first at all is nuts to me...
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I guess I'm not as big of a believer in modern medicine as I should be.
Bamac
Footballguy
This is a particularly brutal draft class for those in non-ppr leagues.
Shutout
Footballguy
Yeah, definitely. Got wrapped up in the minutiae. None of my drafts have kicked off yet so I'm hopped up on kook-aid while I watch all the holiday cartoons leading up to the big day. Lol
Black
Footballguy
It's not modern medicine as much as it is a totally blown out knee. I love the guy, but assuming he will be back to form even in 1 year's time is not optimism as much as it is belief in a minor miracle. The thing that I worry about the most with this injury is not the stability (which in itself is going to take alot of work), but it is the nerve regeneration in the tendons. That's what gives feedback to the muscles about what types of forces are acting on the knee (like a strain gage). Those have to regenerate. That, coupled with the basically learning to walk again and fully 'trusting' the knee...I just can't imagine he can come back without having lost a few steps and move up the depth chart. I hope I am wrong for his sake.
Regarding this topic in general...interesting to me to see Lacy jump back up into the top 3 for most non-PPR drafts. I would think if you believe he's in a time-share, then PPR or non-PPR his value is around 1.08. I also think that Monte Ball will jump up into the top 3 in non-PPR once he gets some starts in preseason.
