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Post your rookie drafts - 2019 (2 Viewers)

The latest update:

1.1 N’Keal Harry WR NE

1.2 Josh Jacobs RB OAK

1.3 Marquise Brown WR BAL

1.4 Paris Campbell WR IND

1.5 Mikes Sanders RB PHI

1.6 DK Metcalf WR SEA

1.7 AJ Brown WR TEN 
1.8 Deebo Samuel WR SF
1.9 Kyler Murray QB AZ
1.10 D Henderson, RB, LAR
1.11 Noah Fant TE DEN
1.12 David Montgomery RB CHI

2.01 TJ Hockenson TE DET

 
12 Team PPR (Draft Ongoing.  I'll update as picks are made.  I wont post link because a lot of FBG users are in the league) 

The same owner has 2nd, 5th, 8th, 10th, & 11th

1.01 - Jacobs
1.02 - Harry
1.03 - DK Metcalf
1.04 - D. Montgomery
1.05 - M. Sanders
1.06 - A. Brown
1.07 - P. Campbell
1.08 - M. Brown
1.09 - H. Butler
1.10 - Hockenson
1.11 - Fant
1.12 - Arcega-Whiteside
2.01 - M. Hardman
2.02 - D. Henderson
2.03 - K. Murray
2.04 - D. Samuel
2.05 - Isabella
2.06 - J. Sternberger
2.07 - D. Singletary
2.08 - H. Renfrow
2.09 - I. Smith Jr
2.10 - McLaurin
2.11 - K. Harmon
2.12 - Di. Johnson
 

 
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Gandalf said:
The latest update:

1.1 N’Keal Harry WR NE

1.2 Josh Jacobs RB OAK

1.3 Marquise Brown WR BAL

1.4 Paris Campbell WR IND

1.5 Mikes Sanders RB PHI

1.6 DK Metcalf WR SEA

1.7 AJ Brown WR TEN 
1.8 Deebo Samuel WR SF
1.9 Kyler Murray QB AZ
1.10 D Henderson, RB, LAR
1.11 Noah Fant TE DEN
1.12 David Montgomery RB CHI

2.01 TJ Hockenson TE DET
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That seems really low for Montgomery and high for Brown. 

 
0.5 PPR, started at 8AM today

1.01 - Josh Jacobs (RB)

1.02 - David Montgomery (RB)

1.03 - N'Keal Harry (WR)

1.04 - AJ Brown (WR)

1.05 - TJ Hockenson (TE)

1.06 - DK Metcalf (WR)

1.07 - Parris Campbell (WR)

1.08 - Marquise Brown (WR)

1.09 - Deebo Samuel (WR)

Will update again in a few hours.

 
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Raptors409 said:
0.5 PPR, started at 8AM today

1.01 - Josh Jacobs (RB)

1.02 - David Montgomery (RB)

1.03 - N'Keal Harry (WR)

1.04 - AJ Brown (WR)

1.05 - TJ Hockenson (TE)

1.06 - DK Metcalf (WR)

1.07 - Parris Campbell (WR)

1.08 - Marquise Brown (WR)

Will update again in a few hours.
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No Sanders yet in 0.5ppr?  That’s going to be a mistake.

 
SayWhat? said:
No Sanders yet in 0.5ppr?  That’s going to be a mistake.
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Yeah, I picked at 1.08 and was deciding between him and Brown. I also own the 2.01 and 2.02. My logic was that, "there's a chance Sanders might still be there but there's no way that Marquise Brown will".

Also, I think it will be easier to sell Brown after he hits on a few deep bombs early on while Sanders is stuck in a timeshare.

 
Raptors409 said:
Yeah, I picked at 1.08 and was deciding between him and Brown. I also own the 2.01 and 2.02. My logic was that, "there's a chance Sanders might still be there but there's no way that Marquise Brown will".

Also, I think it will be easier to sell Brown after he hits on a few deep bombs early on while Sanders is stuck in a timeshare.
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I think you did that backwards.  But I also dont think either will be there...

 
Heep said:
I think you did that backwards.  But I also dont think either will be there...
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Oh yeah, I'm definitely second guessing my judgment call here. But at the end of the day, I had to make a decision. I think they're both going to be solid pros so I'm gonna try not to stress too hard about it.

I just have distinct memories of drafting Ridley at 1.06 last year and flipping him in a package deal with Brandin Cooks for Leonard Fournette, Davante Adams, and a 1st Rounder (which I just used to draft Brown, lol). I think I'll have future opportunities to sell high on Brown. Had I drafted Sanders, I'm probably sitting here daydreaming about Brown. Can't have it all!

 
Raptors409 said:
Yeah, I picked at 1.08 and was deciding between him and Brown. I also own the 2.01 and 2.02. My logic was that, "there's a chance Sanders might still be there but there's no way that Marquise Brown will".

Also, I think it will be easier to sell Brown after he hits on a few deep bombs early on while Sanders is stuck in a timeshare.
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I'm not saying you're wrong. But I would have done it the other way around as well. You may end up being right, though. My thing is that it speaks to just how much variance there is going to be in these. I'm leaning more and more towards thinking I'm just going to have to take my BPA at each spot I find myself in. And that there may not be very much moving up or down for anyone. But there will be names at the top of the 2nd that will be nice to snag. 

I guess I'm saying I don't want to get cute. Just take BPA.

 
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12 Team PPR (my picks bolded)

1.01 Josh Jacobs

1.02 N'Keal Harry

1.03 Miles Sanders

1.04 David Montgomery

1.05 Marquise Brown

1.06 AJ Brown

1.07 Parris Campbell

1.08 DK Metcalf

1.09 TJ Hockenson

1.10 Hakeem Butler

 
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.5/reception

QB TD = 4

1/20 passing, 1/10 rushing & receiving

1. Jacobs

2. Sanders

3. Harry

4. Hardman 

5. Montgomery

6. Metcalf

7. Campbell

8. AJ Brown

9. Fant

10. M Brown

11. Samuel

12. Hockenson

13. Murray

14. Henderson

 
Looks like Fant going before Hockenson in most drafts so far and both going late first or early second in most cases, unless TE heavy league.

 
voiceofunreason said:
Kinda shocked how high Marquis Brown is going. Everyone hated him before the draft and then he went to the worst landing spot possible. Hope it stays that way for my drafts.
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I took him at 1.05 (in Doowain's post.)

I dunno - there's really no definitive guy I liked. Any one of ten guys could probably fit there. I personally think L Jackson becomes a decent qb, which makes his landing spot just fine (where nobody is keeping him off the field). 

 
0.5 ppr will update when I can 

1. N’Keal Harry WR

2. Josh Jacobs RB  ( my pick ) 

3. David Montgomery RB

4. AJ Brown WR

5. M Sanders RB

6. DK Metcalf WR

7. Parris Campbell WR

8. Marquise Brown WR

9. TJ Hockenson TE

10. Deebo Samuel WR

11. Arcega Whiteside WR

12. Hakeem Butler WR

SECOND ROUND

13. Darrell Henderson RB

14. Andy Isabella WR  ( my pick ) 

15. M Hardman WR

16. N Fant TE

17. Kyler Murray QB

18. D Singletary RB

19. D Johnson WR

20.. J Hill RB

21. K Harmon WR

22.M Boykin WR

23. D Haskins QB

24. B Love RB ( my pick ) 

THIRD ROUND 

25. Irv Smith Jnr TE 

26. Jace Sternberger TE ( my pick ) 

27. Damien Harris RB

28. Devine Ozigbo RB ( my pick, I screwed this up was in limited WIFI abroad and didn’t have time to think properly ) 

29. Alexander Mattison RB

30. Jalen Hurd WR 

31. Rodney Anderson RB 

32. Terry McLaurin WR 

33. Darwin Thompson RB ( who I wish I’d taken instead of Ozigbo ) 

34. Ryquell Armstead RB

35. Gary Jennings WR 

36. Benny Snell RB 

FOURTH ROUND 

37. Alex Barnes RB 

38. Preston Williams WR ( my pick ) 

 
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https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/options?L=71245&O=17 

14 team superflex best ball, no waivers in season. PPR tiered .5/1/2. Start 10 (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Superflex, 2 Flex) (My picks in bold)

1.1. Kyler Murray

1.2. Josh Jacobs

1.3. Noah Fant

1.4. Dwayne Haskins

1.5. N'Keal Harry

1.6. TJ Hockenson

1.7. Miles Sanders

1.8. David Montgomery

1.9. Marquise Brown

1.10. DK Metcalf

1.11. AJ Brown

1.12. Daniel Jones

1.13. Drew Lock

1.14. Parris Campbell 

2.1 Deebo Samuel

2.2 Darrell Henderson

2.3 JJ-Arcega Whiteside

2.4 Mecole Hardman

2.5 Andy Isabella

2.6 Hakeem Butler

2.7 Irv Smith Jr.

2.8 Terry McLaurin

2.9 Jace Sternberger 

2.10 Diontae Johnson

2.11 Damien Harris

2.12 Devin Singletary

2.13 Justice Hill

2.14 Alexander Mattison

3.1 Kahale Warring

3.2 Miles Boykin

3.3 Josh Oliver

3.4 Bryce Love

3.5 Kelvin Harmon

3.6 Jalen Hurd

3.7 Will Grier

3.8 Rodney Anderson

3.9 Riley Ridley

3.10 Benny Snell

3.11 Ryquell Armstead 

3.12 Darwin Thompson

3.13 Mike Weber  

3.14 Dawson Knox

 
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Nothing about these drafts shocks me anything remotely close to the Marquise Brown picks. If his ADP was a round later he'd never be on one of my teams and I actually liked him pre-draft.

 
menobrown said:
Nothing about these drafts shocks me anything remotely close to the Marquise Brown picks. If his ADP was a round later he'd never be on one of my teams and I actually liked him pre-draft.
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I disagree completely. The guy was a 1st Round pick, he's going to see playing time. He's probably going to lead the team in targets.

His speed is in the same league as Tyreek Hill and I expect them to utilize him in a similar fashion. Deep shots, play action, jet sweeps, screens, etc.

60 catches at 15 ypc puts him at 900 yards. Doesn't seem like too much of a stretch but I would say that's his ceiling Year 1.

Should be a starter right out of the gate while everyone else is waiting for RBs like Sanders and Montgomery to win their timeshare.

 
Raptors409 said:
I disagree completely. The guy was a 1st Round pick, he's going to see playing time. He's probably going to lead the team in targets.

His speed is in the same league as Tyreek Hill and I expect them to utilize him in a similar fashion. Deep shots, play action, jet sweeps, screens, etc.
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He's not a lot different then a healthy John Brown. Best of luck.

ETA-let me try and word this better. I view him as to similar a player to John Brown to ignore the earth shattering negative that Lamar Jackson was to John Brown's stats last year.

 
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Raptors409 said:
I disagree completely. The guy was a 1st Round pick, he's going to see playing time. He's probably going to lead the team in targets.

His speed is in the same league as Tyreek Hill and I expect them to utilize him in a similar fashion. Deep shots, play action, jet sweeps, screens, etc.

60 catches at 15 ypc puts him at 900 yards. Doesn't seem like too much of a stretch but I would say that's his ceiling Year 1.

Should be a starter right out of the gate while everyone else is waiting for RBs like Sanders and Montgomery to win their timeshare.
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Look at Michael Vick’s wrs over his career. It can get very ugly unlessJackson improves drastically. Just look at John Brown’s numbers before and after Jackson. He had 601 yards through 9 games with Flacco. The last 7 games with Jackson he had 114 yards on 30 targets. He went from being on pace for over 1050 yards to just over 260. And Flacco isn’t exactly a great qb for wrs himself. 

Sure maybe Jackson improves but he has to improve drastically. Just because he’s their best wr doesn’t mean he’ll be useful in fantasy.

 
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It isn’t just Jackson. Brown is super small. Very few guys that size make a difference anyway. Combined with possibly the worst passing Qb in the league and I wouldn’t touch him until early 2nd at best 

 
menobrown said:
He's not a lot different then a healthy John Brown. Best of luck.

ETA-let me try and word this better. I view him as to similar a player to John Brown to ignore the earth shattering negative that Lamar Jackson was to John Brown's stats last year.
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Appreciate the warm regards on this. A healthy John Brown was good enough for 65 / 1,003 / 7 TD in 2015. Obviously, I'm smart enough to know the QB and scheme were drastically different in Arizona that year. I did look into it and see that after Lamar Jackson took over in Week 11, John Brown only caught 8 of 30 targets thrown his way (26.67% completion percentage). So that's pretty terrible. His completion percentage on the season was 58.2%.

Targets to Brown: 8 / 30 (26.67%)
Targets to anyone else: 84 / 128 (65.6%)

So I definitely do see the concern here. I'm still a believer in the talent and I think he will be the focal point of that offense. They will find creatives ways to get him the ball, even if he's just a decoy at times.

 
Ratbone said:
It isn’t just Jackson. Brown is super small. Very few guys that size make a difference anyway. Combined with possibly the worst passing Qb in the league and I wouldn’t touch him until early 2nd at best 
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Well yeah, if dude was 6ft, 2 and 196 lbs he'd be the unanimous first overall pick. He's barely bigger than Tavon Austin. I guess I'm just a sucker for that speed and those targets.

 
My league rattled off the first 9 picks yesterday in 6 hours. We had a 9 hour slowdown at 1.10 due to a guy working and wanting to shop his pick. Pace picked back up.

Now, the guy at 1.12 has been on the clock for 14 hours now. Normally I wouldn't care but I have BOTH the 2.01 and 2.02 picks so I'm literally waiting on him.

I look to see the last time dude logged in to check his team:

50 days, 6 hours, 40 minutes ago

:lmao:

 
Milkman said:
Im a seller of 2020 1sts to get into this years top 6-7 picks. Lots of owners making clear mistakes on who they are taking in the top end of these rookie drafts. 
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I’m the opposite. I’d much rather roll the dice on next years class, personally.

Who do you like that is falling?

 
Hollywood is recovering form a lisfranc injury.  I'm treating him like a rookie right end in that if I like him ill plan to buy him cheap after he disappoints in his first season or first half season.. 

 
Raptors409 said:
His speed is in the same league as Tyreek Hill and I expect them to utilize him in a similar fashion. Deep shots, play action, jet sweeps, screens, etc.
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Did the Ravens trade Lamar Jackson for Pat Mahomes?

 
Concept Coop said:
I’m the opposite. I’d much rather roll the dice on next years class, personally.

Who do you like that is falling?
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Agreed, im trying to sell my 2019 picks in superflex to this mindset unless I can get Jacobs or Kyler.

I think all of the 2020 1sts will be more valuable than the superflex 1.03 due to the number of QBs, RBs, and WRs we think are studs. 

It's also fresh in our heads how much the nfl draft can shape our opinions, so there is a lot of risk there. 

 
Milkman said:
Im a seller of 2020 1sts to get into this years top 6-7 picks. Lots of owners making clear mistakes on who they are taking in the top end of these rookie drafts. 
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I dont agree with this strategy....2020 is much stronger at rb for sure.....im all for getting ur guy though....i think most picks after 1.03 will be cheaply had.....rookie fever is modest this year

 
hispeedthinmint said:
Looking at these drafts makes me wanna just trade my 2019 picks for 2020 picks.
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For the top 5 picks, I agree with this. But the late first and early second has talent available that is just as good as any other year. The problem with this year, is that you've got guys like David Montgomery and Miles Sanders going in the 1st Round. In any other year, guys with glimpses of talent but are stuck in timeshares would be late 1st / early 2nd round picks.

There's just an abundance of players of very good players and very few great players. The "great" player talent pools drops off about midway in the 2nd round. Murray, Hardman, Butler, Henderson, etc. are as good 2nd Round Rookie picks as you're going to find in any draft class. It's the cream at the top that is lacking, imo.

 
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Raptors409 said:
For the top 5 picks, I agree with this. But the late first and early second has talent available that is just as good as any other year. The problem with this year, is that you've got guys like David Montgomery and Miles Sanders going in the 1st Round. In any other year, guys with glimpses of talent but are stuck in timeshares would be late 1st / early 2nd round picks.

There's just an abundance of players of very good players and very few great players. The "great" player talent pools drops off about midway in the 2nd round. Murray, Hardman, Butler, Henderson, etc. are as good 2nd Round Rookie picks as you're going to find in any draft class. It's the cream at the top that is lacking, imo.
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Agree 100%. The late 1st/early 2nd is as good as any other year. Unfortunately those guys are pretty much equal to the early/mid 1st guys as well. Everyone’s gonna want to trade back this year with few takers unless it’s for bargain prices.

 
Raptors409 said:
For the top 5 picks, I agree with this. But the late first and early second has talent available that is just as good as any other year. The problem with this year, is that you've got guys like David Montgomery and Miles Sanders going in the 1st Round. In any other year, guys with glimpses of talent but are stuck in timeshares would be late 1st / early 2nd round picks.
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Yes on Montgomery, no on Sanders.  Guys like Sanders are first round picks, even early 1st, on the regular.

Chubb, Rojo, Kerryon, Guice, Cook, Mixon, Henry were all 2nd round picks into relatively crowded situations that had early/mid 1st ADP, and that's just within the last 3 years.

Royce Freeman is probably the earliest 3rd round RB but he had (or at least we thought he had) less competition for touches than Montgomery.

 
Superflex TE Premium PPR

1.01     Murray, Kyler ARI QB (R)
1.02     Jacobs, Josh OAK RB (R)
1.03     Harry, N'Keal NEP WR (R)
1.04     Haskins, Dwayne WAS QB (R)
1.05     Sanders, Miles PHI RB (R)    
1.06     Fant, Noah DEN TE (R)
1.07     Montgomery, David CHI RB (R)
1.08     Hockenson, T.J. DET TE (R)     
1.09     Metcalf, DK SEA WR (R)
1.10     Brown, A.J. TEN WR (R)
1.11     Brown, Marquise BAL WR (R)     
1.12     Campbell, Parris IND WR (R)

 
Concept Coop said:
I’m the opposite. I’d much rather roll the dice on next years class, personally.

Who do you like that is falling?
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I'm going to hold off commenting until my rookie drafts are done but there is some players I want on my team for sure that aren't universally liked it seems. I don't mind that it just means I can get them cheaper. One in particular is a possible generational talent being over looked. 

 
hispeedthinmint said:
Looking at these drafts makes me wanna just trade my 2019 picks for 2020 picks.
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You and everybody else... problem is there are no takers. I offered the 6 pick to multiple teams in one of my leagues for their future 1st, no one was even the slightest bit interested, even projected playoff teams.

 
Raptors409 said:
I disagree completely. The guy was a 1st Round pick, he's going to see playing time. He's probably going to lead the team in targets.

His speed is in the same league as Tyreek Hill and I expect them to utilize him in a similar fashion. Deep shots, play action, jet sweeps, screens, etc.

60 catches at 15 ypc puts him at 900 yards. Doesn't seem like too much of a stretch but I would say that's his ceiling Year 1.

Should be a starter right out of the gate while everyone else is waiting for RBs like Sanders and Montgomery to win their timeshare.
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I like him but the Lis Franc scares me. I drafted Kevin Jones in my first dynasty league and I remember waiting for his foot to get right and it never did. 

Not sure if the treatment has improved the odds of successful recovery and decreased the odds of future injury. I would like to know more about that before I spend a first round pick on Hollywood.

 
kittenmittens said:
Hollywood is recovering form a lisfranc injury.  I'm treating him like a rookie right end in that if I like him ill plan to buy him cheap after he disappoints in his first season or first half season.. 
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I'm warming up to him. He has an unimpeded path to being the wr1 on that offense, and I read that there are 225 or so targets unaccounted for. Yes, Jackson threw the ball only 1/3 of the plays when he took over, and his deep ball was atrocious. However, shorter routes are where Brown makes his plays; you just have to get him the ball. Boykins on the opposite side keeps defenses honest with his potential to go deep (weve covered jacksons difficulties in 2018 throwing deep)

You have a guy with ABs route running and Tyreek Hill's speed. Yes, Jackson is not the best qb, but IMO Baltimore didnt spend a 1st round pick on a WR they dont have plans to use effectively. You dont think they know of Jacmson has shortcomings in the passing game? 

Browns value dropped significantly landing in Baltimore. Enough where the upside is worth it.

Compare him to a guy like Isabella who has smaller hands, more competition on his team, and body catches. Or compare him to AJ Brown who is in WR purgatory. These are guys drafted over him, although Brown has quite possibly the best path to being the wr1 on his team right out of the gate. that has some significant value imo

 
az_prof said:
I like him but the Lis Franc scares me. I drafted Kevin Jones in my first dynasty league and I remember waiting for his foot to get right and it never did. 

Not sure if the treatment has improved the odds of successful recovery and decreased the odds of future injury. I would like to know more about that before I spend a first round pick on Hollywood.
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I'm pretty cautious with injuries...  I have no worries about his Lisfranc at this point

 
Dr. Dan said:
I'm warming up to him. He has an unimpeded path to being the wr1 on that offense, and I read that there are 225 or so targets unaccounted for. Yes, Jackson threw the ball only 1/3 of the plays when he took over, and his deep ball was atrocious. However, shorter routes are where Brown makes his plays; you just have to get him the ball. Boykins on the opposite side keeps defenses honest with his potential to go deep (weve covered jacksons difficulties in 2018 throwing deep)

You have a guy with ABs route running and Tyreek Hill's speed. Yes, Jackson is not the best qb, but IMO Baltimore didnt spend a 1st round pick on a WR they dont have plans to use effectively. You dont think they know of Jacmson has shortcomings in the passing game? 

Browns value dropped significantly landing in Baltimore. Enough where the upside is worth it.

Compare him to a guy like Isabella who has smaller hands, more competition on his team, and body catches. Or compare him to AJ Brown who is in WR purgatory. These are guys drafted over him, although Brown has quite possibly the best path to being the wr1 on his team right out of the gate. that has some significant value imo
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I like the point you're making. One counterpoint with Isabella is that AZ might throw 600 times.

 
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