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rockaction said:
Steep price. Did you need a RB that badly or did you just feel like the dart throws at 1.03 and 1.05 weren't as valuable? I'd personally have a hard time giving up that value, though in the long run it might have been worth it. 
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I wanted Hall, didn't think Walker would fall to 1.03...of course had I known where he would go in the draft both NFL and my draft I would have done things differently I did that trade pre-NFL draft. 

 
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Dynasty PPR

Fantasy Legends TE premium 1.5 ppr

https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2022/options?L=40891&O=17

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Devy  RB .75 pt. PPR, WR 1 pt. PPR, TE 1.25 pt. PPR 

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Ilov80s said:
He's not that small. 5'11" 181. Tyler Lockett, Elijah Moore, Olave, Garret Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Dionate Johnson, Devonta Smith. 

It seems like a prototype that the NFL (and fantasy) is valuing a lot right now. 
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WR that small in 1st round have a bad track record. There are outliers, plus no one is excited about Wentz/WAS. 

He asked why he was slipping, that's my guess. 

 
massraider said:
WR that small in 1st round have a bad track record. There are outliers, plus no one is excited about Wentz/WAS. 

He asked why he was slipping, that's my guess. 
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Yeah I think you are right why people are letting him slip but I am not sure why him being small matters but Olave being small doesn't. 

 
12 team 1 QB 1 RB 2 WR 1 TE(1.5) 3 Flex 

1.01 Hall, Breece NYJ RB (R) 

1.02 Walker III, Kenneth SEA RB (R) 

1.03 London, Drake ATL WR (R) 

1.04 Williams, Jameson DET WR (R)  

1.05 Wilson, Garrett NYJ WR (R) 

1.06 Burks, Treylon TEN WR (R) 

1.07 Moore, Skyy KCC WR (R)  

1.08 Olave, Chris NOS WR (R) 

1.09 Watson, Christian GBP WR (R) 

1.10 Cook, James BUF RB (R) 

1.11 Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB (R) 

1.12 White, Rachaad TBB RB (R) 

2.01 Pickens, George PIT WR (R) 

2.02 Metchie, John HOU WR (R)  

2.03 Pierce, Alec IND WR (R) 

2.04 Dotson, Jahan WAS WR (R) 

2.05 White, Zamir LVR RB (R) 

2.06 Pierce, Dameon HOU RB (R) 

2.07 Davis-Price, Tyrion SFO RB (R) 

2.08 Thornton, Tyquan NEP WR (R) 

2.09 Robinson, Brian WAS RB (R) 

2.10 McBride, Trey ARI TE (R) 

2.11 Tolbert, Jalen DAL WR (R) 

2.12 Bell, David CLE WR (R) 

2.13 Pickett, Kenny PIT QB (R) 

3.01 Robinson, Wan'Dale NYG WR (R) 

3.02 Woods, Jelani IND TE (R) 

3.03 Shakir, Khalil BUF WR (R) 

3.04 Allgeier, Tyler ATL RB (R) 

3.05 Dulcich, Greg DEN TE (R) 

3.06 Strong Jr., Pierre NEP RB (R) 

3.07 Ferguson, Jake DAL TE (R) 

3.08 Willis, Malik TEN QB (R) 

3.09 Hurst, Hayden CIN TE

3.10 Ingram, Keaontay ARI RB (R) 

3.11 Corral, Matt CAR QB (R) 

3.12 Badie, Tyler BAL RB (R) 

4.01 Bellinger, Daniel NYG TE (R) 

4.02 Ford, Jerome CLE RB (R) 

4.03 Austin III, Calvin PIT WR (R) 

4.04 Williams, Kyren LAR RB (R) 

4.05 Ridder, Desmond ATL QB (R) 

4.06 Haskins, Hassan TEN RB (R) 

4.07 Ross, Justyn KCC WR (R) 

4.08 Doubs, Romeo GBP WR (R) 

4.09 Pringle, Byron CHI WR

4.10 Ruckert, Jeremy NYJ TE (R)  

4.11 Gray, Danny SFO WR (R) 

4.12 Pacheco, Isaih KCC RB (R) 

 
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12 team 1 QB 1 RB 2 WR 1 TE(1.5) 3 Flex 

1.01 Hall, Breece NYJ RB (R) 

1.02 Walker III, Kenneth SEA RB (R) 

1.03 London, Drake ATL WR (R) 

1.04 Williams, Jameson DET WR (R)  

1.05 Wilson, Garrett NYJ WR (R) 

1.06 Burks, Treylon TEN WR (R) 

1.07 Moore, Skyy KCC WR (R)  

1.08 Olave, Chris NOS WR (R) 

1.09 Watson, Christian GBP WR (R) 

1.10 Cook, James BUF RB (R) 

1.11 Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB (R) 

1.12 White, Rachaad TBB RB (R) 

2.01 Pickens, George PIT WR (R) 

2.02 Metchie, John HOU WR (R)  

2.03 Pierce, Alec IND WR (R) 

2.04 Dotson, Jahan WAS WR (R) 

2.05 White, Zamir LVR RB (R) 

2.06 Pierce, Dameon HOU RB (R) 

2.07 Davis-Price, Tyrion SFO RB (R) 

2.08 Thornton, Tyquan NEP WR (R) 

2.09 Robinson, Brian WAS RB (R) 

2.10 McBride, Trey ARI TE (R) 

2.11 Tolbert, Jalen DAL WR (R) 

2.12 Bell, David CLE WR (R) 

2.13 Pickett, Kenny PIT QB (R) 

3.01 Robinson, Wan'Dale NYG WR (R) 

3.02 Woods, Jelani IND TE (R) 

3.03 Shakir, Khalil BUF WR (R) 

3.04 Allgeier, Tyler ATL RB (R) 

3.05 Dulcich, Greg DEN TE (R) 

3.06 Strong Jr., Pierre NEP RB (R) 

3.07 Ferguson, Jake DAL TE (R) 

3.08 Willis, Malik TEN QB (R) 

3.09 Hurst, Hayden CIN TE

3.10 Ingram, Keaontay ARI RB (R) 

3.11 Corral, Matt CAR QB (R) 

3.12 Badie, Tyler BAL RB (R) 

4.01 Bellinger, Daniel NYG TE (R) 

4.02 Ford, Jerome CLE RB (R) 

4.03 Austin III, Calvin PIT WR (R) 

4.04 Williams, Kyren LAR RB (R) 

4.05 Ridder, Desmond ATL QB (R) 

4.06 Haskins, Hassan TEN RB (R) 

4.07 Ross, Justyn KCC WR (R) 

4.08 Doubs, Romeo GBP WR (R) 

4.09 Pringle, Byron CHI WR

4.10 Ruckert, Jeremy NYJ TE (R)  

4.11 Gray, Danny SFO WR (R) 

4.12 Pacheco, Isaih KCC RB (R) 
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Some really good players after Thornton.  I don’t trust BB picking WRs

 
12 team, superflex non-ppr draft (I'm Woz if not obvious): 

Body:
1.01 - Angelo - RB Breece Hall
1.02 - Kevin - RB Kenneth Walker
1.03 - Hinkle - WR Drake London
1.04 - C-Loss - WR Jameson Williams
1.05 - Dip - WR Treylon Burks
1.06 - C-Loss - WR Garrett Wilson
1.07 - Curt - QB Kenny Pickett
1.08 - Angelo - RB James Cook
1.09 - Billy - QB Desmond Ridder
1.10 - Angelo - WR Chris Olave
1.11 - Curt - WR Skyy Moore
1.12 - Curt - WR Jahan Dotson

2.01 - Angelo - WR Christian Watson
2.02 - Mikey - WR George Pickens
2.03 - Billy - QB Malik Willis
2.04 - Woz - QB Matt Corral
2.05 - Sharky - QB Sam Howell
2.06 - Curt - RB Dameon Pierce
2.07 - Mattare - RB Brian Robinson
2.08 - Woz - RB Rachaad White
2.09 - Billy - RB Tyrion Davis-Price
2.10 - Woz - RB Isaiah Spiller
2.11 - Hinkle - RB Zamir White
2.12 - C-Loss - WR John Metchie

3.01 - Angelo - WR Alec Pierce
3.02 - Billy - WR DAnny Gray
3.03 - Hinkle - TE Trey McBride
3.04 - Angelo - RB Tyler Allgeier
3.05 - Sharky - WR Wan'dale Robinson
3.06 - Atiyeh - TE Jeremy Ruckert
3.07 - Mattare - WR David Bell
3.08 - Kevin - TE Albert Okwuegbunam
3.09 - Billy - WR Romeo Doubs
3.10 - Dip - WR Allen Lazard
3.11 - Curt - WR Jalen Tolbert
3.12 - Woz - RB Keaontay Ingram

I have Sam Darnold and I needed to lock down the Carolina QB situation for my QB2. So, I traded Michael Carter to the Breece Hall draft for 2.4 and Kenneth Gainwell. At 2.10 I was torn between Zamir White and Spiller and a 3.12 I was torn between Ingram and Kyren Williams. I'm stacked at WR and set at TE (Hock and Goedert) which is why you see me pass over players like Pierce and McBride. 

 
12-team PPR, TE bonus - 2 rounds in:

1.01    Breece Hall
1.02    Kenneth Walker III
1.03    Drake London
1.04    Treylon Burks
1.05    Jameson Williams
1.06    Garrett Wilson
1.07    James Cook
1.08    Skyy Moore
1.09    Chris Olave <-- I traded out of this spot for Aaron Jones
1.10    Christian Watson
1.11    Jahan Dotson
1.12    Alec Pierce

2.01    Isaiah Spiller
2.02    Jelani Woods 
2.03    George Pickens
2.04    Rachaad White
2.05    Dameon Pierce
2.06    John Metchie III
2.07    David Bell
2.08    Trey McBride
2.09    Wan’Dale Robinson
2.10    Greg Dulcich
2.11    Tyrion Davis-Price
2.12    Zamir White

 
I don't play TE premium, but even so that seems a bit high for Woods (speaking as someone who traded up to get him in my draft)

 
titusbramble said:
I don't play TE premium, but even so that seems a bit high for Woods (speaking as someone who traded up to get him in my draft)
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Guessing maybe a Colts homer but not sure. Same guy took Alec Pierce at 1.12

 
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heckmanm said:
12-team PPR, TE bonus - 2 rounds in:

1.01    Breece Hall
1.02    Kenneth Walker III
1.03    Drake London
1.04    Treylon Burks
1.05    Jameson Williams
1.06    Garrett Wilson
1.07    James Cook
1.08    Skyy Moore
1.09    Chris Olave <-- I traded out of this spot for Aaron Jones
1.10    Christian Watson
1.11    Jahan Dotson
1.12    Alec Pierce

2.01    Isaiah Spiller
2.02    Jelani Woods 
2.03    George Pickens
2.04    Rachaad White
2.05    Dameon Pierce
2.06    John Metchie III
2.07    David Bell
2.08    Trey McBride
2.09    Wan’Dale Robinson
2.10    Greg Dulcich
2.11    Tyrion Davis-Price
2.12    Zamir White
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3.01    Brian Robinson
3.02    Hassan Haskins
3.03    Tyler Allgeier
3.04    Kenny Pickett
3.05    Malik Willis
3.06    Keaontay Ingram
3.07    Jalen Tolbert
3.08    Khalil Shakir
3.09    Romeo Doubs
3.10    Kyren Williams
3.11    Calvin Austin III
3.12    Pierre Strong

 
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10 team, SF, my picks bolded, non rookies italicised

1.01 - Team 1 - Breece Hall

1.02 - Team 8 - Drake London

1.03 - Team 3 - Treylon Burks

1.04 - Team 2 - Garrett Wilson

1.05 - Team 5 - Kenneth Walker

1.06 - Team 4 - Jameson Williams

1.07 - Team 7 - Chris Olave

1.08 - Team 4 - Skyy Moore

1.09 - Team 9 - Kenny Pickett

1.10 - Team 10 - Christian Watson

2.01 - Team 1 - Jahan Dotson

2.02 - Team 1 - James Cook

2.03 - Team 3 - George Pickens

2.04 - Team 2 - Rachaad White

2.05 - Team 10 - Malik Willis

2.06 - Team 4 - Trey McBride

2.07 - Team 7 - Dameon Pierce

2.08 - Team 1 - Alec Pierce

2.09 - Team 1 - Isaiah Spiller

2.10 - Team 10 - David Bell

3.01 - Team 2 - Wandale Robinson

3.02 - Team 4 - Tyler Allgeier

3.03 - Team 3 - Desmond Ridder

3.04 - Team 5 - Zamir White

3.05 - Team 6 - Matt Corral

3.06 - Team 8 - Jalen Tolbert

3.07 - Team 7 - Brian Robinson

3.08 - Team 8 - Justyn Ross

3.09 - Team 5 - John Metchie

3.10 - Team 4 - Tyrion Davis-Price

4.01 - Team 7 - Jelani Woods

4.02 - Team 2 - Keaontay Ingram

4.03 - Team 3 - Pierre Strong

4.04 - Team 4 - Sam Howell

4.05 - Team 5 - Hassan Haskins

4.06 - Team 6 - Kyren Williams

4.07 - Team 2 - Matt Brieda

4.08 - Team 8 - Tyquan Thornton

4.09 - Team 5 - Abram Smith

4.10 - Team 10 - Jacoby Brissett

5.01 - Team 9 - Velus Jones

5.02 - Team 1 - Greg Dulcich

5.03 - Team 3 - Tyler Badie

5.04 - Team 4 - Khalil Shakir

5.05 - Team 5 - Romeo Doubs

5.06 - Team 6 - Isaih Pacheco

5.07 - Team 1 - Calvin Austin

5.08 - Team 8 - Danny Gray

5.09 - Team 9 - Kyle Phillips

5.10 - Team 10 - Jerome Ford

 
12 Team 1 QB /1-2RB/3-5WR/1-2TE PPR (TE Premium)

https://www48.myfantasyleague.com/2022/options?L=44458&O=17

I passed on James Cook at 2.02 and 2.03 ...  still shocked at myself...   but I need WR not RB

Edit to Add:  Picks / not just link / my picks in Bold

CK   OVR    PLAYER

1.01   1   Hall, Breece NYJ RB 

1.02   2   Walker III, Kenneth SEA RB 

1.03   3   London, Drake ATL WR 

1.04   4   Burks, Treylon TEN WR 

1.05   5   Wilson, Garrett NYJ WR 

1.06   6   Williams, Jameson DET WR  

1.07   7   Olave, Chris NOS WR 

1.08   8   Watson, Christian GBP WR 

1.09   9   Moore, Skyy KCC WR  

1.10   10   Dotson, Jahan WAS WR 

1.11   11   Pickens, George PIT WR 

1.12   12   Pierce, Dameon HOU RB 

2.01   13   Bell, David CLE WR 

2.02   14   Pierce, Alec IND WR 

2.03   15   Metchie, John HOU WR  

2.04   16   Cook, James BUF RB 

2.05   17   White, Rachaad TBB RB 

2.06   18   Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB 

2.07   19   McBride, Trey ARI TE 

2.08   20  Woods, Jelani IND TE 

2.09   21   Robinson, Wan'Dale NYG WR 

2.10   22   Allgeier, Tyler ATL RB 

2.11   23   Tolbert, Jalen DAL WR 

2.12   24   Pickett, Kenny PIT QB 

3.01   25   Dulcich, Greg DEN TE 

3.02   26   Robinson, Brian WAS RB 

3.03   27   Ross, Justyn KCC WR 

3.04   28   White, Zamir LVR RB 

3.05   29   Doubs, Romeo GBP WR 

3.06   30   Willis, Malik TEN QB 

3.07   31   Ingram, Keaontay ARI RB 

3.08   32   Thornton, Tyquan NEP WR 

3.09   33   Davis-Price, Tyrion SFO RB 

3.10   34   Ridder, Desmond ATL QB 

3.11   35   Strong Jr., Pierre NEP RB 

3.12   36   Shakir, Khalil BUF WR 

Rounds 4 & 5 commence in August....  

 
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Birdie048 said:
12 Team 1 QB /1-2RB/3-5WR/1-2TE PPR (TE Premium)

https://www48.myfantasyleague.com/2022/options?L=44458&O=17

I passed on James Cook at 2.02 and 2.03 ...  still shocked at myself...   but I need WR not RB
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If you have Cook higher than the player you took then you did yourself a disservice.  The point of rookie drafts is to get a player that will become a starter.  The best chance to do that is taking the player you have ranked higher.  Forcing a position by drafting a lesser player hurts your chances of finding a starter.  

 
Gally said:
If you have Cook higher than the player you took then you did yourself a disservice.  The point of rookie drafts is to get a player that will become a starter.  The best chance to do that is taking the player you have ranked higher.  Forcing a position by drafting a lesser player hurts your chances of finding a starter.  
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I was reconsidering James Cook...  so I made an offer for the 2.04 ...  he is shopping

ETA:  He took Cook and did not accept my 2023 2nd & 3rd picks offer. 

 
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1.01    Alcoholic Haze                Hall, Breece NYJ RB (R)
1.02    The Foos Fighters           Walker III, Kenneth SEA RB (R)
1.03    Yoda                                  Cook, James BUF RB (R)
1.04    Grand Island KHunts      Wilson, Garrett NYJ WR (R)
1.05    Pittsburgh Plunge           Burks, Treylon TEN WR (R)
1.06    The Foos Fighters          Williams, Jameson DET WR (R) (Q)
1.07    Gringo                              London, Drake ATL WR (R)
1.08    Drinking Problem           Olave, Chris NOS WR (R)
1.09    Password is Taco           Pickens, George PIT WR (R)
1.10    The Foos Fighters          Moore, Skyy KCC WR (R) (Q)
1.11    HoPifornication              Watson, Christian GBP WR (R)
1.12    Riding in my Lambeau    Pierce, Dameon HOU RB (R)
1.13    De-Cleater                         Metchie, John HOU WR (R) (Q)
1.14    Yoda                                  Dotson, Jahan WAS WR (R)

2.01    Alcoholic Haze                 McBride, Trey ARI TE (R)
2.02    LunaTTAC Fringe             Pierce, Alec IND WR (R)
2.03    Yoda                                  Jones, Velus CHI WR (R)
2.04    LunaTTAC Fringe            Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB (R)
2.05    Pittsburgh Plunge           White, Zamir LVR RB (R)
2.06    The Foos Fighters           Lloyd, Devin JAC LB (R)
2.07    Gringo                              White, Rachaad TBB RB (R)
2.08    Drinking Problem           Austin III, Calvin PIT WR (R)
2.09    Pittsburgh Plunge          Walker, Quay GBP LB (R)
2.10    Oregon Reign                  Hutchinson, Aidan DET DE (R)
2.11    HoPifornication               Dean, Nakobe PHI LB (R) (Q)
2.12    Riding in my Lambeau    Pickett, Kenny PIT QB (R)
2.13    De-Cleater                          Bell, David CLE WR (R)
2.14    Grand Island KHunts         Andersen, Troy ATL LB (R)

3.01    Alcoholic Haze                  Willis, Malik TEN QB (R)
3.02    Oregon Reign                    Thibodeaux, Kayvon NYG LB (R)
3.03    Yoda                                    Davis-Price, Tyrion SFO RB (R)
3.04    Grand Island KHunts         Tolbert, Jalen DAL WR (R)
3.05    Pittsburgh Plunge             Robinson, Brian WAS RB (R)
3.06    The Foos Fighters             Allgeier, Tyler ATL RB (R)
3.07    Gringo                                  Hamilton, Kyle BAL S (R)
3.08    Drinking Problem              Ridder, Desmond ATL QB (R)
3.09    Password is Taco              Walker, Travon JAC DE (R)
3.10    Riding in my Lambeau      Karlaftis, George KCC DE (R)
3.11    HoPifornication                 Shakir, Khalil BUF WR (R)
3.12    Riding in my Lambeau     Ingram, Keaontay ARI RB (R)
3.13    De-Cleater                            Doubs, Romeo GBP WR (R)
3.14    Brain Surgeons                 Johnson, Jermaine NYJ DE (R)

4.01    Alcoholic Haze                  Harris, Christian HOU LB (R)
4.02    LunaTTAC Fringe               Woods, Jelani IND TE (R)
4.03    Yoda                                     Ruckert, Jeremy NYJ TE (R) (Q)
4.04    Grand Island KHunts         Strong Jr., Pierre NEP RB (R)
4.05    Password is Taco               Robinson, Wan'Dale NYG WR (R)
4.06    The Foos Fighters               Corral, Matt CAR QB (R)
4.07    Gringo                                 Thornton, Tyquan NEP WR (R)
4.08    Drinking Problem               Tindall, Channing MIA LB (R)
4.09    Password is Taco             Dulcich, Greg DEN TE (R)
4.10    Oregon Reign                     Asamoah, Brian MIN LB (R)
4.11    HoPifornication                 Cine, Lewis MIN S (R)
4.12    Riding in my Lambeau       Brisker, Jaquan CHI S (R)
4.13    De-Cleater                           Pacheco, Isaih KCC RB (R)
4.14    Brain Surgeons                  Ojabo, David BAL LB (R) (Q)

5.01    Alcoholic Haze                  Muma, Chad JAC LB (R)
5.02    LunaTTAC Fringe               Kolar, Charlie BAL TE (R)
5.03    Yoda                                     Zappe, Bailey NEP QB (R)
5.04    Grand Island KHunts         Mafe, Boye SEA DE (R)
5.05    Pittsburgh Plunge              Chandler, Ty MIN RB (R)
5.06    The Foos Fighters              Chenal, Leo KCC LB (R)
5.07    Gringo                                  Otton, Cade TBB TE (R) (Q)
5.08    Drinking Problem               Ebiketie, Arnold ATL LB (R)
5.09    Password is Taco              Hill, Daxton CIN S (R)
5.10    Oregon Reign                     Bonitto, Nik DEN LB (R)
5.11    HoPifornication                  Hall, Logan TBB DE (R)
5.12    Riding in my Lambeau      Ross, Justyn KCC WR (R)
5.13    De-Cleater                           Pitre, Jalen HOU S (R)
5.14    Brain Surgeons                  Haskins, Hassan TEN RB (R)

6.01    Alcoholic Haze                    Bernard, Terrel BUF LB (R)
6.02    LunaTTAC Fringe                 Williams, Kyren LAR RB (R)
6.03    Yoda                                      Stingley Jr., Derek HOU CB (R)
6.04    Grand Island KHunts          Jackson, Drake SFO DE (R)
6.05    Pittsburgh Plunge               Gardner, Ahmad NYJ CB (R)
6.06    The Foos Fighters               Rodriguez, Malcolm DET LB (R)
6.07    Gringo                                   Gray, Danny SFO WR (R)
6.08    Drinking Problem                Smith, Abram NOS RB (R)
6.09    Password is Taco               Howell, Sam WAS QB (R)
6.10    Oregon Reign                      Davis, Jordan PHI DT (R)
6.11    HoPifornication                  Cross, Nick IND S (R)
6.12    Riding in my Lambeau       Wyatt, Devonte GBP DE (R)
6.13    De-Cleater                            Turner, Cole WAS TE (R)
6.14    Brain Surgeons                   Badie, Tyler BAL RB (R)

7.01    Alcoholic Haze                    Cook, Bryan KCC S (R)
7.02    LunaTTAC Fringe                 Likely, Isaiah BAL TE (R)
7.03    Yoda                                      Paschal, Josh DET DE (R)
7.04    Grand Island KHunts          Bellinger, Daniel NYG TE (R)
7.05    Pittsburgh Plunge               Araiza, Matt BUF PN (R)
7.06    The Foos Fighters               McDuffie, Trent KCC CB (R)
7.07    Gringo                                   Booth, Andrew MIN CB (R) (Q)
7.08    Drinking Problem               Ford, Jerome CLE RB (R)
7.09    Password is Taco              Jones, Travis BAL DT (R)
7.10    Oregon Reign                       Elam, Kaiir BUF CB (R)
7.11    HoPifornication                  Williams, Sam DAL DE (R)
7.12    Riding in my Lambeau        Leal, DeMarvin PIT DT (R)
7.13    De-Cleater                            Smith, Brandon CAR LB (R)
7.14    Brain Surgeons                   Jones, Marcus NEP CB (R)

8.01    Alcoholic Haze                   Clark, Damone DAL LB (R) (D)
8.02    LunaTTAC Fringe               Strong, Carson PHI QB (R)
8.03    Yoda                                    Joseph, Kerby DET S (R) (Q)
8.04    Grand Island KHunts        * Koback, Bryant MIN RB (R)
8.05    Pittsburgh Plunge             Harris, Kevin NEP RB (R)
8.06    The Foos Fighters             Melton, Bo SEA WR (R)
8.07    Gringo                                  Philips, Kyle TEN WR (R)
8.08    Drinking Problem               Okonkwo, Chigoziem TEN TE (R)
8.09    Password is Taco              Gordon, Kyler CHI CB (R)
8.10    Oregon Reign                      Ferguson, Jake DAL TE (R)
8.11    Grand Island KHunts         York, Cade CLE PK (R)
8.12    Riding in my Lambeau       Conner, Snoop JAC RB (R)
8.13    De-Cleater                             Brooks, Kennedy PHI RB (R)
8.14    Brain Surgeons                   McCormick, Sincere LVR RB (R)

 
JohnnyU said:
I was going to say something, but felt I already made my feelings known about Cook and didn’t want to appear a hater.  He has PPR appeal to me, just not 1st round appeal.
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People chasing RBs.  Happens all the time.  I get it in the 2nd round but not at the top of the draft.  I'm in a 16 teamer with contracts and same thing.  Pierce went 7th, Spiller 10th and Cook 11th.  Guy at 14 got Pickens and 15 got Dotson because of the reaches.  Williams fell to 10.

I had traded out of the first round for a 2023 1st and was kicking myself after.  Would have loved to grab Williams at 10

 
Ilov80s said:
He's not that small. 5'11" 181. Tyler Lockett, Elijah Moore, Olave, Garret Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Dionate Johnson, Devonta Smith. 

It seems like a prototype that the NFL (and fantasy) is valuing a lot right now. 
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Devonta is 6 foot, 170

Dotson is 5'11", 183

Rondale is 5'7", 181

I would consider those 3 very different.   

Every corner in the NFL has a height mismatch with Rondale so he has to get wide open to win. 

There were 9 corners taken in the first two rounds of this year's draft.  Only two were over 6 feet tall. None were under 5'11".  That gives you a sense of how big you need to be to play receiver against those guys.  

He's got speed, but even if he beats his man you can't really throw it deep to him when a safety who is six inches taller and just as fast is going to be there when the ball comes down.  And he's really hard to target in the red zone when there's guys who are well over 6 feet everywhere you look. It's not a coincidence that his only touchdown as a rookie was a short pass that he took to the house. 

He's better suited as a gadget player because he's thick like a running back but has speed and you have to respect him as a receiving target a lot more than a running back.  

Devonta is a bean pole. He's tall enough has all the skill and physical talent but I don't think he can hold up to 80 or 90 catches in the NFL year after year without putting on some muscle.  Maybe he fills out as he gets older but it's a concern.  

Dotson and the other guys you mentioned are small compared to the classic big bodied receivers who win outside, but they're big enough to win some contested balls against similar sizes corners and fast enough that you can't match up most big corners against them.  They're not thick like Rondale but they can stand up to the hits in the short and intermediate routes.  They're not tall like a Mike Evans but they can win on the outside against smaller d backs.  

The thing they can do though is move around pre snap and force the defense to tip their coverage. A guy who can credibly move from the outside to the slot and take a handoff on a jet sweep is a necessity in today's NFL but if that guy can run quality routes he's going to get a lot of targets against coverage mismatches. I see Dotson as one of those guys and apparently the commanders do too.

 
efactor said:
People chasing RBs.  Happens all the time.  I get it in the 2nd round but not at the top of the draft.  I'm in a 16 teamer with contracts and same thing.  Pierce went 7th, Spiller 10th and Cook 11th.  Guy at 14 got Pickens and 15 got Dotson because of the reaches.  Williams fell to 10.

I had traded out of the first round for a 2023 1st and was kicking myself after.  Would have loved to grab Williams at 10
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This was likely it as his RBs pre-draft are:

Coleman, Tevin NYJ RB
Dobbins, J.K. BAL RB (Q)
Evans, Darrynton CHI RB
Harris, Damien NEP RB
McNichols, Jeremy FA RB
Mostert, Raheem MIA RB (Q)
Nwangwu, Kene MIN RB
Penny, Rashaad SEA RB
Perine, Samaje CIN RB

 
bostonfred said:
Devonta is 6 foot, 170  

Dotson is 5'11", 183

Rondale is 5'7", 181   

I would consider those 3 very different.   

Every corner in the NFL has a height mismatch with Rondale so he has to get wide open to win. 

There were 9 corners taken in the first two rounds of this year's draft.  Only two were over 6 feet tall. None were under 5'11".  That gives you a sense of how big you need to be to play receiver against those guys.  

He's got speed, but even if he beats his man you can't really throw it deep to him when a safety who is six inches taller and just as fast is going to be there when the ball comes down.  And he's really hard to target in the red zone when there's guys who are well over 6 feet everywhere you look. It's not a coincidence that his only touchdown as a rookie was a short pass that he took to the house. 

He's better suited as a gadget player because he's thick like a running back but has speed and you have to respect him as a receiving target a lot more than a running back.  

Devonta is a bean pole. He's tall enough has all the skill and physical talent but I don't think he can hold up to 80 or 90 catches in the NFL year after year without putting on some muscle.  Maybe he fills out as he gets older but it's a concern.  

Dotson and the other guys you mentioned are small compared to the classic big bodied receivers who win outside, but they're big enough to win some contested balls against similar sizes corners and fast enough that you can't match up most big corners against them.  They're not thick like Rondale but they can stand up to the hits in the short and intermediate routes.  They're not tall like a Mike Evans but they can win on the outside against smaller d backs.  

The thing they can do though is move around pre snap and force the defense to tip their coverage. A guy who can credibly move from the outside to the slot and take a handoff on a jet sweep is a necessity in today's NFL but if that guy can run quality routes he's going to get a lot of targets against coverage mismatches. I see Dotson as one of those guys and apparently the commanders do too.
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I did not compare him to Rondale. That is a whole other Sproles-Wandale-Woodhead type. 

Yeah Smith is thin but he's only an inch taller and sub 190. I don't consider that them too different in terms of body type. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I did not compare him to Rondale. That is a whole other Sproles-Wandale-Woodhead type. 

Yeah Smith is thin but he's only an inch taller and sub 190. I don't consider that them too different in terms of body type. 
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Once again I was quoting your good post, I wasn't disagreeing with you.  

But I will disagree with you on Smith.  He's an inch taller than Dotson.  He should weigh more, not 11 lbs less. That's like being 15 or 20 lbs lighter if they were the same height.  

It's a real difference in muscle. Both ran a 4.43 and both had a 36 inch vertical but Dotson put up 15 reps of 225 at his pro day.  Smith didn't participate in the bench press... because he can't lift 225.  His max bench according to google is 185, but I don't know how reliable that is. 

I think Smith is a great receiver, but I'm much more worried about him getting hit by, for example, a 225 lb guy than I am with Dotson. 

 
By the way, I've been down on Rondale since day one, but he is a ridiculous athlete by any measure except height. He ran a sub 4.3, had a 42.5 inch vert, and benched 225 24 times.  It's just such a disadvantage when even the smallest guy covering you is 3 or 4 inches taller than you and there's guys in the red zone who are literally a head taller than him.   

I really enjoyed this video about Elijah Moore because it talks about how he beats defenders as a smaller receiver 

https://youtu.be/bbmr3q6DwXY

 
IDP where the LBs score very high

https://www77.myfantasyleague.com/2022/options?L=12418&O=17

It was clear I was out of the PO in the early season of 21 and moved my 2 top RBs (D Cook and D Henry - before injury)
Its a salary league so they were beginning to get expensive and contracts were running out

Gave up Cook, Dalvin MIN RB; Mattison, Alexander MIN RB; Harris, Charles DET DE; Year 2022 Round 3 Draft Pick; Year 2022 Round 4 Draft
Got Year 2022 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.11); Year 2022 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

Gave up Prescott, Dak DAL QB; Henry, Derrick TEN RB; Year 2022 Round 5 Draft Pick
Got up Dobbins, J.K. BAL RB (no Contract Yrs used); Gibson, Antonio WAS RB (3 yrs, CHEAP!!); Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick (2.07)

My Draft Picks (Think I did well)
1.03 Walker III, Kenneth SEA RB (R)
1.10 Lloyd, Devin JAC LB (R)
1.11 Watson, Christian GBP WR (R)
2.03 Walker, Quay GBP LB (R)
2.07 McBride, Trey ARI TE (R)
3.03 Asamoah, Brian MIN LB (R)
5.03 Bell, David CLE WR (R) Steal!!!
6.03 Brooks, Kennedy PHI RB (R)

I built up my LB Core since they score very good in the league

Current Team:
QB Mahomes / Hurts / Lance (TS)
RB Dobbins / Gibson / Sanders / Scott / Brooks / Walker III (TS)
WR Evans / M Thomas / Higgins / Mike Williams / Pringle / Waddle (TS) / Watson (TS) Bell (TS)
TE Schultz / Okwuegbunam / McBride (TS)
LB D Campbell / D Lloyd / Owusu / Jewell / Q Williams / Bentley / Al-Shaair / Asamoah (TS) / Walker (TS)
S Diggs / Fitz / Hyde

We still have our FA Auction however I'm basically under $100 left of play money so I can really only go after roster fillers like DT / DE / CB. I'll try for one big FA

 
2 leagues, start 2 qbs/2rbs/4wrs/2tes, ppr, 4pts per tf

League 1

1.01    Hall, Breece NYJ RB
1.02    Walker III, Kenneth SEA RB
1.03    Burks, Treylon TEN WR
1.04    Wilson, Garrett NYJ WR
1.05    Watson, Christian GBP WR
1.06    Williams, Jameson DET WR (Q)
1.07    London, Drake ATL WR
1.08    Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
1.09    Olave, Chris NOS WR
1.1    Willis, Malik TEN QB
1.11    Pickens, George PIT WR
1.12    Cook, James BUF RB
2.01    Ridder, Desmond ATL QB
2.02    White, Rachaad TBB RB
2.03    Moore, Skyy KCC WR (Q)
2.04    Pierce, Alec IND WR
2.05    Dotson, Jahan WAS WR
2.06    Dulcich, Greg DEN TE
2.07    Metchie, John HOU WR (Q)
2.08    Robinson, Wan'Dale NYG WR
2.09    Corral, Matt CAR QB
2.1    Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB
2.11    Davis-Price, Tyrion SFO RB
2.12    Bell, David CLE WR
3.01    McBride, Trey ARI TE
3.02    Tolbert, Jalen DAL WR
3.03    Woods, Jelani IND TE
3.04    White, Zamir LVR RB
3.05    Jones, Velus CHI WR
3.06    Allgeier, Tyler ATL RB
3.07    Pierce, Dameon HOU RB
3.08    Howell, Sam WAS QB
3.09    Robinson, Brian WAS RB
3.1    Thornton, Tyquan NEP WR
3.11    Strong Jr., Pierre NEP RB
3.12    Shakir, Khalil BUF WR
4.01    Ford, Jerome CLE RB
4.02    Gray, Danny SFO WR
4.03    Haskins, Hassan TEN RB
4.04    Doubs, Romeo GBP WR
4.05    Ingram, Keaontay ARI RB
4.06    Badie, Tyler BAL RB
4.07    Austin III, Calvin PIT WR
4.08    Otton, Cade TBB TE (Q)
4.09    Chandler, Ty MIN RB
4.1    Kolar, Charlie BAL TE
4.11    Williams, Kyren LAR RB
4.12    Pacheco, Isaih KCC RB
5.01    Conner, Snoop JAC RB
5.02    Ross, Justyn KCC WR
5.03    Ruckert, Jeremy NYJ TE (Q)
5.04    Ferguson, Jake DAL TE
5.05    Harris, Kevin NEP RB
5.06    Bellinger, Daniel NYG TE
5.07    Smith, Abram NOS RB
5.08    Philips, Kyle TEN WR
5.09    Likely, Isaiah BAL TE
5.1    Quitoriano, Teagan HOU TE
5.11    Williams, Devon BAL WR
5.12    Strong, Carson PHI QB
 

League 2

1.01    Hall, Breece NYJ RB
1.02    Walker III, Kenneth SEA RB
1.03    Wilson, Garrett NYJ WR
1.04    London, Drake ATL WR
1.05    Burks, Treylon TEN WR
1.06    Williams, Jameson DET WR (Q)
1.07    Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
1.08    Olave, Chris NOS WR
1.09    Watson, Christian GBP WR
1.1    Pickens, George PIT WR
1.11    Moore, Skyy KCC WR (Q)
1.12    White, Rachaad TBB RB
2.01    Cook, James BUF RB
2.02    Willis, Malik TEN QB
2.03    Ridder, Desmond ATL QB
2.04    Dotson, Jahan WAS WR
2.05    Pierce, Dameon HOU RB
2.06    Davis-Price, Tyrion SFO RB
2.07    Corral, Matt CAR QB
2.08    White, Zamir LVR RB
2.09    Strong Jr., Pierre NEP RB
2.1    Dulcich, Greg DEN TE
2.11    Jones, Velus CHI WR
2.12    Allgeier, Tyler ATL RB
3.01    Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB
3.02    Pierce, Alec IND WR
3.03    McBride, Trey ARI TE
3.04    Metchie, John HOU WR (Q)
3.05    Bell, David CLE WR
3.06    Robinson, Brian WAS RB
3.07    Tolbert, Jalen DAL WR
3.08    Thornton, Tyquan NEP WR
3.09    Howell, Sam WAS QB
3.1    Woods, Jelani IND TE
3.11    Williams, Kyren LAR RB
3.12    Haskins, Hassan TEN RB
4.01    Smith, Abram NOS RB
4.02    Badie, Tyler BAL RB
4.03    Robinson, Wan'Dale NYG WR
4.04    Gray, Danny SFO WR
4.05    Shakir, Khalil BUF WR
4.06    Ford, Jerome CLE RB
4.07    Ingram, Keaontay ARI RB
4.08    Doubs, Romeo GBP WR
4.09    Austin III, Calvin PIT WR
4.1    Chandler, Ty MIN RB
4.11    Pacheco, Isaih KCC RB
4.12    Ebner, Trestan CHI RB
5.01    Conner, Snoop JAC RB
5.02    Ross, Justyn KCC WR
5.03    Bellinger, Daniel NYG TE
5.04    Otton, Cade TBB TE (Q)
5.05    Kolar, Charlie BAL TE
5.06    Harris, Kevin NEP RB
5.07    Strong, Carson PHI QB
5.08    Likely, Isaiah BAL TE
5.09    Turner, Cole WAS TE
5.1    Zappe, Bailey NEP QB
5.11    Ruckert, Jeremy NYJ TE (Q)
5.12    Coan, Jack IND QB
 

 
heckmanm said:
3.01    Brian Robinson
3.02    Hassan Haskins
3.03    Tyler Allgeier
3.04    Kenny Pickett
3.05    Malik Willis
3.06    Keaontay Ingram
3.07    Jalen Tolbert
3.08    Khalil Shakir
3.09    Romeo Doubs
3.10    Kyren Williams
3.11    Calvin Austin III
3.12    Pierre Strong
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Realized I never posted the last round

4.01    Desmond Ridder
4.02    Tyquan Thornton
4.03    Isaih Pacheco
4.04    Tyler Badie
4.05    Jerome Ford
4.06    Ty Chandler
4.07    Justyn Ross
4.08    Matt Corral
4.09    Kyle Philips - I might have taken Corral here but didn't have to make the decision
4.10    Velus Jones
4.11    Snoop Conner
4.12    Cade Otton

So I came out of the draft with

  • Aaron Jones (traded 1.09)
  • WanDale Robinson
  • Romeo Doubs
  • Kyle Philips
 
heckmanm said:
Realized I never posted the last round

4.01    Desmond Ridder
4.02    Tyquan Thornton
4.03    Isaih Pacheco
4.04    Tyler Badie
4.05    Jerome Ford
4.06    Ty Chandler
4.07    Justyn Ross
4.08    Matt Corral
4.09    Kyle Philips - I might have taken Corral here but didn't have to make the decision
4.10    Velus Jones
4.11    Snoop Conner
4.12    Cade Otton

So I came out of the draft with

  • Aaron Jones (traded 1.09)
  • WanDale Robinson
  • Romeo Doubs
  • Kyle Philips
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I probably would have taken both Velus Jones and Snoop Conner over Kyle Phillips.

 
completed this last weekend....

1    Hall    Breece    RB    NYJ 
2    Walker    Kenneth    RB    SEA 
3    Moore    Skyy    WR    KC  
4    London    Drake    WR    ATL 
5    Burks    Treylon    WR    TEN 
6    Wilson    Garrett    WR    NYJ 
7    Spiller    Isaiah    RB    LAC 
8    Williams    Jameson    WR    DET 
9    Olave    Chris    WR    NO  
10    Dotson    Jahan    WR    WAS 
11    Pierce    Dameon    RB    HOU 
12    Watson    Christian    WR    GB  
13    Cook    James    RB    BUF 
14    White    Rachaad    RB    TB  
15    McBride    Trey    TE    ARI 
16    Pierce    Alec    WR    IND 
17    Pickens    George    WR    PIT 
18    Bell    David    WR    CLE 
19    Robinson    Brian    RB    WAS 
20    Davis-Price    Tyrion    RB    SF  
21    Lazard    Allen    WR    GB  
22    Woods    Robert    WR    TEN 
23    White    Zamir    RB    LV  
24    Jones    Ronald    RB    KC  
25    Allgeier    Tyler    RB    ATL 
26    Hardman    Mecole    WR    KC  
27    Ingram    Keaontay    RB    ARI 
28    Beckham    Odell    WR    FA  
29    Metchie    John    WR    HOU 
30    Engram    Evan    TE    JAC 
31    Hines    Nyheim    RB    IND 
32    Peoples-Jones    Donovan    WR    CLE 
33    Wilson    Zach    QB    NYJ 
34    Robinson    Wan'Dale    WR    NYG 
35    Marshall    Terrace    WR    CAR 
36    Parker    DeVante    WR    NE  
37    Strong    Pierre    RB    NE  
38    Harris    Kevin    RB    NE  
39    Ross    Justyn    WR    KC  
40    Shenault    Laviska    WR    JAC 
41    Mack    Marlon    RB    HOU 
42    Pacheco    Isaih    RB    KC  
43    Gaskin    Myles    RB    MIA 
44    Tolbert    Jalen    WR    DAL 
45    Team Defense    PIT    DF    PIT 
46    Shakir    Khalil    WR    BUF 
47    Pickett    Kenny    QB    PIT 
48    Ford    Jerome    RB    CLE 
49    Team Defense    IND    DF    IND 
50    Willis    Malik    QB    TEN 
51    Samuel    Curtis    WR    WAS 
52    Palmer    Joshua    WR    LAC 
53    Ridder    Desmond    QB    ATL 
54    Jordan    Brevin    TE    HOU 
55    Williams    Kyren    RB    LAR 
56    Watkins    Sammy    WR    GB  
57    Collins    Nico    WR    HOU 
58    Haskins    Hassan    RB    TEN 
59    Hubbard    Chuba    RB    CAR 
60    Hooper    Austin    TE    TEN 
61    Otton    Cade    TE    TB  
62    Crowder    Jamison    WR    BUF 
63    Foreman    D'Onta    RB    CAR 
64    Vaughn    Ke'Shawn    RB    TB  
65    Trautman    Adam    TE    NO  
66    Austin    Calvin    WR    PIT 
67    Dulcich    Greg    TE    DEN 
68    Williams    Damien    RB    ATL 
69    Doubs    Romeo    WR    GB  
70    Thornton    Tyquan    WR    NE  
71    Ingram    Mark    RB    NO  
72    Hamler    KJ    WR    DEN 
73    Hill    Taysom    TE    NO  
74    Evans    Chris    RB    CIN 
75    Jones    Velus    WR    CHI 
76    Bryant    Harrison    TE    CLE 
77    Badie    Tyler    RB    BAL 
78    Benjamin    Eno    RB    ARI 
79    Wydermyer    Jalen    TE    FA  
80    Jefferson    Van    WR    LAR 
81    Conner    Snoop    RB    JAC 
82    Johnson    D'Ernest    RB    CLE 
83    Chandler    Ty    RB    MIN 
84    Hurst    Hayden    TE    CIN 

 
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