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Predict Matthew Stafford's pass attempts (1 Viewer)

Chase Stuart

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A significant chunk of Stafford's fantasy value last year was tied up in his huge number of pass attempts. In fact, his 663 attempts were the third highest in NFL history.

So, how many do you predict for Stafford in 2012? To me, it's meaningless to even start talking about his fantasy value until you figure out how many attempts to give him. That's true for just about every QB, but especially important for Stafford.

 
Doesn't look like the running game is getting better and since 2000, the average number of QB's with over 600 attempts is more than one.

663 is likely aberration, but it doesn't seem to be tremendously high when taken in conjunction with the fact that 1/2 of the top 16 leaders in attempts have occurred in the past 6 years. Guys who can throw the ball successfully seem to be given that opportunity.

If the defense improves, the number of attempts will likely go down. The D will likely be a little better and Stafford will probably have a slight regression, but I would feel comfortable projecting him for 3 fewer attempts per game, leaving him at 615.

I imagine this will put him 2nd in my projections for pass attempts, slightly behind Brees.

 
There are many ways to go about looking at this. Here's one that's more of a sanity check than a best way to answer the question.

From 1990 to 2010, the top ten teams in pass attempts averaged 672 pass attempts (the Lions last year had 666). Those ten teams the next season averaged 600 pass attempts exactly, coming in at 72 fewer attempts.

That's on the team level, so it probably makes sense to put Stafford at around 90% of that number for a reasonable rough guess. Factoring in the likelihood of injury -- which for every QB is nonzero and for Stafford is at least as high as the average starting QB -- it's hard for me not to predict that his attempt #s dropping by around 100 this year. For the Lions team, 600 seems like a good estimate.

But putting history aside, I think it makes sense to examine exactly why the Lions threw so many passes last season. I'll look into that today.

 
This is a very interesting topic partly because dynasty owners of Stafford can sell him for a mint right now if most leagues are operating the way they are in my one league where I own Stafford. I have been getting very big offers for him.

When you see a number that high, you MUST assume that this is the outlier and you should curb back your expectations. There are just so many things that can lessen his attempts/value. There could be injury, the defense could improve, the running game could improve, or Calvin could miss games. Any of those things would be a huge impact and at least one, the improving of the running game, is a virtual given (at least to be attempted to address).

So, in a lot of ways, Stafford could be an ultimate "Sell high".

With all that being said, I have NOT moved him in the league I have him. The appeal of what happened last year, his age, and the presence of Calvin holds me.

 
I think there are a few obvious explanations from people as to why he had so many attempts last year:

1) He's a star QB, and star QBs pass a lot.

2) His team's running game stunk

3) His defense wasn't all that good leading DET to pass frequently.

All of those hold some merit, but let's remember:

1) Romo is a stud QB, too, and he didn't pass nearly as much. Ditto Eli Manning or Philip Rivers.

2) True, his running game was bad. Then again, so was Eli Manning's. Tennessee's running game was terrible but they had under 600 passes. St. Louis couldn't run the ball but they had over 100 fewer passes than DET.

3) Yes and no. Detroit's D was perfectly average last year, maybe even slightly better than average. Detroit's opponents scored 6 non-offensive TDs last year inflating their points allowed total, but the Lions generally were a pretty decent defense in 2011 (despite looking like a bad arena league defense in the playoffs).

Let's look at things on a more granular level.

-- Before the week 9 bye, the Lions had 302 pass attempts; after the bye, Detroit had 364 pass attempts.

-- There were five games that got out of control early for Detroit, with the second Bears game being by far the ugliest. The Bears jumped out to a 20-point lead and Stafford threw two pick-sixes early in the 2nd half; he ended the game with a whopping 63 attempts in a game that was out of hand early. Against the Saints, New Orleans jumped out to a 17-0 lead and made it 24-7 at halftime. Detroit was in catchup mode most of the game; Stafford had 44 attempts. Against the Cowboys and Vikings, Detroit found themselves down big early but Stafford led great comebacks of 24 and 20 points; he threw 89 passes in those two games. Lastly, against the Packers (Thanksgiving), Green Bay raced out to an early lead and Kevin Smith went down with an injury; Stafford had 45 atatempts.

There were also what I would call two shootouts; against Newton and Flynn. In those games Stafford had wildly different attempt numbers, passing 36 times against CAR but 59 times vs. GB. That's in part due to Kevin Smith running very well against CAR and the fact that GB's ability to race down the field so quickly (averaged 7.7 yards per play vs. CAR's 6.3).

There were four games where the Lions really dominated from start to finish. Interestingly, Stafford still had decent attempts numbers in all of these games. Against three AFC West teams -- Den, KC and SD -- the Lions obliterated them to the tune of 131-23. In the rematch against Minnesota, Detroit was up 21-0 with over 5 minutes left in the 1Q and 28-7 early in the 2nd. The Vikings nearly won this game, but the Lions held a huge lead for most of it.

In those four games, Stafford averaged 33.5 attempts.

There were two other high attempt games for Stafford: against SF and against OAK. Against the 49ers the Lions were in a battle the whole game but had no ability to run. Stafford wasn't all that effective, averaging under 6 yards per attempt, but Best/Morris had a 3.4 ypc average on 17 attempts. Against Oakland, Stafford had 21 attempts in the 4Q driving up his att numbers while leading a spirited comeback.

His low-attempt games tended to come early in the season and when things went according to plan, i.e., against TB and the first CHI game. I think expecting any 60-pass games is expecting too much, and simply having five games where he threw 50+ passes isn't going to happen again. Lions games seemed to feature a lot of long TDs, which I think led to more drives both for and against DET.

The attempt numbers have to come down, especially if the running game gets even a little better. But unless Detroit becomes an elite team, it's hard to see them dropping out of the top seven or eight. It's also worth realizing that some of the high attempt numbers are simply a reflection that Stafford just isn't there yet. Someone like Rodgers will have fewer attempts as long as he's so efficient.

 
My guess is about 615 attempts for the Lions. I don't like including missed games in my top-line projection, since it's swayed so much by long-term injuries (Brady's 2008 really brings down his pass attempts per season average) and I'll just start someone else if Stafford is out. So I'd rather just leave it at 38 attempts per game started for Stafford (slightly less than 615/16, to account for mid-game injuries or late-game blowout benchings). (Expected value is probably around 550 total attempts for Stafford, but that number is less informative.)

The Lions threw 633 passes in 2010, so last year wasn't just a total fluke. And the Saints have topped 600 attempts in 4 of the past 5 seasons, with an average of 631 attempts per year (653 per year if you exclude the 2009 season where they started 13-0 and won a lot of blowouts, switching to grind-out-the-clock mode in the 2nd half). The Lions have averaged 596 attempts per year over the past 5 seasons (and that includes years like the disastrous 0-16 2008 season with Orlovsky at QB when the offense couldn't stay on the field), so for a team that's built the way they are 600 isn't all that many.

666 is probably an unsustainable rate, so I'd bring it down to 640 or so just based on that. Then we have to account for the fact that the Lions could be good enough to have a lot of run-out-the-clock second halves, and that they could have a more balanced offense if they finally get a good, healthy running back. That puts it closer to 615. I'm not too worried about Best & Smith, who are probably better catching the ball than taking handoffs, but if Leshoure looks good in camp or they add someone new then I might have to lower that estimate.

 
Right now, I have him at 600 att, 380 comp, 63.33% 4450 yds 33 TD, 16 INT

Hopefully for DET, they dont have the same prob running the ball in 2012. His attempts are going to come down by arouond 10% from ly IMO. I have nothing to justify this other than some regression to mean, improvement in run game, and an educated guess.

 
I think there are a few obvious explanations from people as to why he had so many attempts last year:2) True, his running game was bad. Then again, so was Eli Manning's. Tennessee's running game was terrible but they had under 600 passes. St. Louis couldn't run the ball but they had over 100 fewer passes than DET.
I don't really understand the "logic" underpinning the above comment. Bradshaw & Jacobs are head and shoulders above the trash the Lions rolled out most of the year. Tennessee's running game was putrid - but their receiving talent was even worse. Ditto for St. Louis. In other words, those are terrible comparisons for a team with the best WR in the league, a solid supporting WR cast, and a pretty good receiving TE.
 
He had a LOT of passes within 3 yards of the goal line, too. Inflated his TD numbers. Any improvement in the defense and running game are going to hurt his fantasy value. Last year was really the perfect storm for him from a fantasy perspective.

 
Over 600 pass attempts is very rare and only Stafford, Brees (4x), Brady (2x), Peyton, Cutler, Favre (3x), Gannon and Bledsoe have done it in the past decade. However, 9 of those 14 seasons were in the past 5 years and Brees has done it in four out of the last 5 years.

I would say it's reasonable to assume that his passing attempts will go down to 600 or just shade under but Stafford should be able to get around 4500 yards and 35 TD's. That would put him near the top in a normal year.

 
A little off subject, but since we all see that the Detroit passing situation is so valuable from a fantasy perspective, I think this is one of the cases where a handcuff is reasonable. Is Shaun Hill still the guy to own?

 
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