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Protests Over SCOTUS Decision To Overturn Roe v. Wade Thread (1 Viewer)

Question - does this classify as an insurrection attempt?

In Phoenix, state lawmakers who were trying to finish up their 2022 session were forced to hide in the basement of the Arizona Capitol as violent protesters tried to break into the government building.

And is Maxine Waters saying “we will defy” the SC Ruling, and AOC chanting “Illegitimate” on the front steps of the Supreme Court yesterday - are these insurrectiony?
The link has a video that shows nothing violent, other than the police launching tear gas into the crowd.

Maxine and AOC speaking and chanting is an insurrection?  That’s absurd.

 
Nope. 
And this is similar, BTW, to the January 6 rally prior to the riot, when several of the speakers, like Rudy Giuliani, used angry rhetoric, as if they were football coaches: “armor up”, “there’s a war out there”, “take to the streets” etc. This is typical angry American language designed to energize folks. At NRA conventions they say they’re “locked and loaded”, and at anti-gun rallies they use similar language. 
It’s part of our culture. And sometimes it is used unwisely and even provocatively. But none of this is the same as calling for violence. Calling for violence is not something that is couched in nebulous terms. It’s saying “I want you to go out there and knock some heads.” Or: “tonight when you’re protesting, make sure to smash some windows and loot as well!” Or- “go to the Capitol Building and break in! See if you can find Mike Pence or Nancy Pelosi and if you do find them, kill them!” 
That doesn’t happen in this country. 

 
The link has a video that shows nothing violent, other than the police launching tear gas into the crowd.

Maxine and AOC speaking and chanting is an insurrection?  That’s absurd.
Local tv station’s had photos of property damage and graffiti by the mob.  So much more then tear gas.

 
Is arson considered "peaceful" or only "mostly peaceful?"

Longmont Public Safety (CO) is investigating a fire at an abortion alternatives ministry as arson. 

Police said the building sustained fire and heavy smoke damage, and that the front of the building was vandalized with black paint. 

The vandalism includes pro-abortion rights messages including "if abortions aren't safe neither are you" and "bans off our bodies."

https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/longmont-fire-life-choices/73-9de6d610-4cb0-4d99-a33c-40198a6a2d87

 
Didn't they bail out BLM protesters who were arrested? None of them were charged with terrorism or committing a terrorist act. 
This is another good point thank you. Domestic terrorists on the left are very rarely arrested and charged - and even more rarely charged with the full severity of their crimes.  Thanks.

 
The link has a video that shows nothing violent, other than the police launching tear gas into the crowd.

Maxine and AOC speaking and chanting is an insurrection?  That’s absurd.  
 Was it equally absurd when Trump's words at the rally on Jan. 6 were called insurrection? 

 
Is arson considered "peaceful" or only "mostly peaceful?"

Longmont Public Safety (CO) is investigating a fire at an abortion alternatives ministry as arson. 

Police said the building sustained fire and heavy smoke damage, and that the front of the building was vandalized with black paint. 

The vandalism includes pro-abortion rights messages including "if abortions aren't safe neither are you" and "bans off our bodies."

https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/longmont-fire-life-choices/73-9de6d610-4cb0-4d99-a33c-40198a6a2d87
That's a good question.  I'd say it depends on the politics of the person involved.

 
Dude- why are you defending this? 
 

So sick of people looking to defend this crap. Violent pro-choice people, violent pro-life people- why not just condemn them all? Why when it’s “your side” do you have to look for reasons that it’s not as bad as it looks? 
Questioning whether or not it actually happened because the "facts" as stated make zero sense? 

Remember when you thought jussie told the truth and you acted the same way?

I get that your side requires immediate virtue signaling, but sorry tim. I was taught to think for myself. 

And that story sounds fake af. 

 
Is arson considered "peaceful" or only "mostly peaceful?"

Longmont Public Safety (CO) is investigating a fire at an abortion alternatives ministry as arson. 

Police said the building sustained fire and heavy smoke damage, and that the front of the building was vandalized with black paint. 

The vandalism includes pro-abortion rights messages including "if abortions aren't safe neither are you" and "bans off our bodies."

https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/longmont-fire-life-choices/73-9de6d610-4cb0-4d99-a33c-40198a6a2d87
There is a link inside the link above that you can, as a witness, upload video evidence… That’s pretty cool, and a sign of the times I suppose.

I hope there is evidence and the arsonists are prosecuted hard. 

 
Nope. 
And this is similar, BTW, to the January 6 rally prior to the riot, when several of the speakers, like Rudy Giuliani, used angry rhetoric, as if they were football coaches: “armor up”, “there’s a war out there”, “take to the streets” etc. This is typical angry American language designed to energize folks. At NRA conventions they say they’re “locked and loaded”, and at anti-gun rallies they use similar language. 
It’s part of our culture. And sometimes it is used unwisely and even provocatively. But none of this is the same as calling for violence. Calling for violence is not something that is couched in nebulous terms. It’s saying “I want you to go out there and knock some heads.” Or: “tonight when you’re protesting, make sure to smash some windows and loot as well!” Or- “go to the Capitol Building and break in! See if you can find Mike Pence or Nancy Pelosi and if you do find them, kill them!” 
That doesn’t happen in this country. 
Well yeah, we are not yet at the point where we are overtly calling to kill people.  That's obvious.  But here's the deal Tim.  If you want to be absolute like that, which is fine, then I don't ever want you to talk about racism or dogwhistles unless it is equally overt.  Deal?

 
So you can move the goalposts in your usual childish manner?  Sorry squid.  Got better things to do.


You make an absurd claim that "Liberal writers and activists calling for violence on twitter today"

When asked to back it up, you can't. Shame on you.  :no:

 
Raucous crowd chanting "Thank you Trump!"  I have to hand it to the narcissistic #####, he had an impactful Presidency.  And he kept his promise.

 
Question - does this classify as an insurrection attempt?

In Phoenix, state lawmakers who were trying to finish up their 2022 session were forced to hide in the basement of the Arizona Capitol as violent protesters tried to break into the government building.

And is Maxine Waters saying “we will defy” the SC Ruling, and AOC chanting “Illegitimate” on the front steps of the Supreme Court yesterday - are these insurrectiony?
Watch the video, they’re not trying to break in. They’re pounding on the windows to make noise. It’s dumb, they shouldn’t be doing it and if you want arrest them, that’s fine with me. But they’re not trying to break in. If you’ve got a video of one of handful of idiots using an object that would actually break the window, I’d love to see it. Again arrest them and anyone who caused property damage but get out of here with the insurrection talk.

 
Raucous crowd chanting "Thank you Trump!"  I have to hand it to the narcissistic #####, he had an impactful Presidency.  And he kept his promise.
I agree. Trump, by being the worst and most divisive President in the history of the United States of America has been profoundly impactful.

 
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Well yeah, we are not yet at the point where we are overtly calling to kill people.  That's obvious.  But here's the deal Tim.  If you want to be absolute like that, which is fine, then I don't ever want you to talk about racism or dogwhistles unless it is equally overt.  Deal?
No. It’s not. Because sometimes dog whistles are very clear. Sometimes they’re not. Depends. 
 

 
Watch the video, they’re not trying to break in. They’re pounding on the windows to make noise. It’s dumb, they shouldn’t be doing it and if you want arrest them, that’s fine with me. But they’re not trying to break in. If you’ve got a video of one of handful of idiots using an object that would actually break the window, I’d love to see it. Again arrest them and anyone who caused property damage but get out of here with the insurrection talk.


And from the video I've seen it was just one guy pounding on the window. Inappropriate and should have been arrested for that but not the entire crowd was trying to break in. Please.

 
I think I’m done posting in this thread. It’s just the same old tiresome crap. Conservatives out to prove that liberals call for violence, and suspicious when a conservative is accused of violence. Liberals out to prove that conservatives are the violent ones. So tiresome: 

 
And from the video I've seen it was just one guy pounding on the window. Inappropriate and should have been arrested for that but not the entire crowd was trying to break in. Please.
And the crowd behind him… if he broke the window and they all piled in, they should be arrested and charged, same as J6ers. 
 

The average sentence has been 45 days or so… if they went inside.

Nothing if they stay outside.

 
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I think I’m done posting in this thread. It’s just the same old tiresome crap. Conservatives out to prove that liberals call for violence, and suspicious when a conservative is accused of violence. Liberals out to prove that conservatives are the violent ones. So tiresome: 
Bye.

 
Huh?  He googled it.  The site has a video clip from MSNBC.  It’s a real clip.
 It is real, but it is 'fake'.   Fake news has nothing to do with truth, it has to do with whether democrats like it or not.  Democrats can't argue facts so they just ignore what contradicts their insane worldview. 

 
I think I’m done posting in this thread. It’s just the same old tiresome crap. Conservatives out to prove that liberals call for violence, and suspicious when a conservative is accused of violence. Liberals out to prove that conservatives are the violent ones. So tiresome: 


It is tiresome having to argue points when what you argue is polar opposite of what you just argued.  

 
 It is real, but it is 'fake'.   Fake news has nothing to do with truth, it has to do with whether democrats like it or not.  Democrats can't argue facts so they just ignore what contradicts their insane worldview. 


I missed you jon, while you were on vacation.

So glad to see your erudite observations to these forum threads once again

 
 It is real, but it is 'fake'.   Fake news has nothing to do with truth, it has to do with whether democrats like it or not.  Democrats can't argue facts so they just ignore what contradicts their insane worldview. 
I’m a liberal.  Pretty sure you know that (despite the user name lol).  I don’t believe that either side is very good at searching for truth.

 
I’m a liberal.  Pretty sure you know that (despite the user name lol).  I don’t believe that either side is very good at searching for truth.


Sure the right ignores facts they don't like.  The are huge differences in tactics though. The left uses the legal system, higher education institutions, social media platforms, and mainstream news source to suppress alternative ideas by any and all means possible.  The right does not cancel people and ideas the way the left does unless they are backdooring their looney ideas upon their children.  

 
Sure the right ignores facts they don't like.  The are huge differences in tactics though. The left uses the legal system, higher education institutions, social media platforms, and mainstream news source to suppress alternative ideas by any and all means possible.  The right does not cancel people and ideas the way the left does unless they are backdooring their looney ideas upon their children.  
They’re both guilty of doing the things you say.  The system is broken.  If you aren’t questioning everything, you aren’t doing yourself any good.  Time to take off those blinders. 

 
This Story from huffing post shows a photo with the caption 

"Protesters in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, fall as a driver careens into them during a demonstration Friday against the overturning of Roe v. Wade"

If you watch this video you can see the woman in this photo. And you can see how she ends up on the ground. She is at the driver window either pounding on it or trying to get in the door when this happened. 

You can also see how the people in that video have ample opportunity to get away from the truck, but clearly don't want to and in fact others run in to join the attempt at blockading. 

So yeah. Try to stop a truck driving away and try to open their door and I don't care one bit if your feet get run over. 

Play stupid games...

 
But it was OK during the summer of 2020. Cities burned and leadership on the left was posting bail for the domestic terrorists that got themselves arrested. 

The leadership on the left today are fanning the flames and inciting violence. 
yep, and it is not going to be pretty.  I type this with hoping for the best, but sadly I doubt anything is going to be just a difference of opinion.   It's going to be I'm right-your wrong.    I'm hoping,   people who have  reality that we can disagree & still respect each other.

I doubt it.

 
This Story from huffing post shows a photo with the caption 

"Protesters in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, fall as a driver careens into them during a demonstration Friday against the overturning of Roe v. Wade"

If you watch this video you can see the woman in this photo. And you can see how she ends up on the ground. She is at the driver window either pounding on it or trying to get in the door when this happened. 

You can also see how the people in that video have ample opportunity to get away from the truck, but clearly don't want to and in fact others run in to join the attempt at blockading. 

So yeah. Try to stop a truck driving away and try to open their door and I don't care one bit if your feet get run over. 

Play stupid games...
Not knowing what happened before, the two(?) protesters in front of the truck are lucky they aren’t dead. They clearly had the chance to bail to the side… The one at the drivers door looked like she was committing assault, or trying to.

Nothing that happened in the seconds before could really change my assessment above, but if the driver of the truck was there looking for trouble there could be blame on both sides.

Two groups of a-holes, if you will.

 
Not knowing what happened before, the two(?) protesters in front of the truck are lucky they aren’t dead. They clearly had the chance to bail to the side… The one at the drivers door looked like she was committing assault, or trying to.

Nothing that happened in the seconds before could really change my assessment above, but if the driver of the truck was there looking for trouble there could be blame on both sides.

Two groups of a-holes, if you will.
The girl at the window actually admits she was trying to grab the steering wheel. 

 

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