QB Aaron Rodgers, Free Agent (2 Viewers)

[Joe Bryant]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

• The 3-4 posts yesterday stating emphatically that it was “all political”
-and-
• based on his vaccination politics
-and-
• therefore everyone just hates his politics.

Both are projections that not one poster here even hinted at.

The mods appear to have erased those posts and posts of people pointing it out.

Today:
• ARod “lives rent free in everyone’s head” - an assertion about every poster who isn’t on the ARod side.
• Nicknaming him “rent-free” - to continue that assertion.
• claiming everyone considers him “public enemy #1” when literally no one said that
• claiming people “hate” him, thus assigning emotions not expressed by anyone critical of him. Because surely no one could be critical without “hating” him? Cmon.

All pretty straightforward trolling, thanks for asking.

Interesting. Thanks.

Not every opinion that differs from your own or strikes a nerve is "trolling".

 

[Joe Bryant]

Jets would rather roll with Justin Fields.

That says quite a bit.

I think that says as much about Glenn as it does Rodgers. But I know I'm in the minority there.

Among NFL teams who needed a QB in the spring, Glenn is in the majority.

That's what I said.

 

[Football Jones]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

• The 3-4 posts yesterday stating emphatically that it was “all political”
-and-
• based on his vaccination politics
-and-
• therefore everyone just hates his politics.

Both are projections that not one poster here even hinted at.

The mods appear to have erased those posts and posts of people pointing it out.

Today:
• ARod “lives rent free in everyone’s head” - an assertion about every poster who isn’t on the ARod side.
• Nicknaming him “rent-free” - to continue that assertion.
• claiming everyone considers him “public enemy #1” when literally no one said that
• claiming people “hate” him, thus assigning emotions not expressed by anyone critical of him. Because surely no one could be critical without “hating” him? Cmon.

All pretty straightforward trolling, thanks for asking.

It's just too easy to put the troll label on a post when you disagree. It's lazy. I simply said Rodgers would have a lot less detractors if he had kept his COVID stance and other political beliefs to himself and that can't be denied. I know because this place was absolutely full of anti-Rodgers posts during COVID (how dumb he was, etc.). You kept countering it's not political, but that goes against all evidence.

You never heard nearly as much about how big of an a-hole Rodgers was until COVID. There was stuff out there, but not like it is today. The hate isn't all political (which I've stated multiple times), but it's a big part of it. As far as his nickname (Rent-Free), don't take it personal. CHILLAX. It's just a nickname. That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize A-Rod really grates on people. I think it's an apt nickname, myself. Several of us in this thread don't understand all the hate given all the other choices for public enemy #1 (which is why myself and others find it fascinating).

I did notice the posts were removed (which is fine). We don't want to go into politics here, but given the amount of heat Rodgers takes, I had to mention where a significant part of it comes from.

 

[Zeppelin]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

• The 3-4 posts yesterday stating emphatically that it was “all political”
-and-
• based on his vaccination politics
-and-
• therefore everyone just hates his politics.

Both are projections that not one poster here even hinted at.

The mods appear to have erased those posts and posts of people pointing it out.

Today:
• ARod “lives rent free in everyone’s head” - an assertion about every poster who isn’t on the ARod side.
• Nicknaming him “rent-free” - to continue that assertion.
• claiming everyone considers him “public enemy #1” when literally no one said that
• claiming people “hate” him, thus assigning emotions not expressed by anyone critical of him. Because surely no one could be critical without “hating” him? Cmon.

All pretty straightforward trolling, thanks for asking.

It's just too easy to put the troll label on a post when you disagree. It's lazy. I simply said Rodgers would have a lot less detractors if he had kept his COVID stance and other political beliefs to himself and that can't be denied. I know because this place was absolutely full of anti-Rodgers posts during COVID (how dumb he was, etc.). You kept countering it's not political, but that goes against all evidence.

You never heard nearly as much about how big of an a-hole Rodgers was until COVID. There was stuff out there, but not like it is today. The hate isn't all political (which I've stated multiple times), but it's a big part of it. As far as his nickname (Rent-Free), don't take it personal. CHILLAX. It's just a nickname. That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize A-Rod really grates on people. I think it's an apt nickname, myself. Several of us in this thread don't understand all the hate given all the other choices for public enemy #1 (which is why myself and others find it fascinating).

I did notice the posts were removed (which is fine). We don't want to go into politics here, but given the amount of heat Rodgers takes, I had to mention where a significant part of it comes from.

You already said all of this, all to get a response and you constantly mention rent free. Why keep repeating it?

That's why people call you a troll.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Not every opinion that differs from your own or strikes a nerve is "trolling".

Of course not. I disagree with people here all the time. I don’t accuse them of trolling.

Trolling is trolling. That dude was clearly trolling. Multiple people here noticed it. It’s not subtle.

Hope this helps.

ETA: his trolling didn’t “strike a nerve” in the slightest. I found it absurd, overtly political, and clearly attempting to instigate by being repetitive with it. AKA “trolling”.

 

[Football Jones]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

• The 3-4 posts yesterday stating emphatically that it was “all political”
-and-
• based on his vaccination politics
-and-
• therefore everyone just hates his politics.

Both are projections that not one poster here even hinted at.

The mods appear to have erased those posts and posts of people pointing it out.

Today:
• ARod “lives rent free in everyone’s head” - an assertion about every poster who isn’t on the ARod side.
• Nicknaming him “rent-free” - to continue that assertion.
• claiming everyone considers him “public enemy #1” when literally no one said that
• claiming people “hate” him, thus assigning emotions not expressed by anyone critical of him. Because surely no one could be critical without “hating” him? Cmon.

All pretty straightforward trolling, thanks for asking.

It's just too easy to put the troll label on a post when you disagree. It's lazy. I simply said Rodgers would have a lot less detractors if he had kept his COVID stance and other political beliefs to himself and that can't be denied. I know because this place was absolutely full of anti-Rodgers posts during COVID (how dumb he was, etc.). You kept countering it's not political, but that goes against all evidence.

You never heard nearly as much about how big of an a-hole Rodgers was until COVID. There was stuff out there, but not like it is today. The hate isn't all political (which I've stated multiple times), but it's a big part of it. As far as his nickname (Rent-Free), don't take it personal. CHILLAX. It's just a nickname. That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize A-Rod really grates on people. I think it's an apt nickname, myself. Several of us in this thread don't understand all the hate given all the other choices for public enemy #1 (which is why myself and others find it fascinating).

I did notice the posts were removed (which is fine). We don't want to go into politics here, but given the amount of heat Rodgers takes, I had to mention where a significant part of it comes from.

You already said all of this, all to get a response and you constantly mention rent free. Why keep repeating it?

That's why people call you a troll.

So mentioning my nickname for him a couple times is trolling? I used the term yesterday a couple times. You may disagree, but I find it an apt nickname as far as off the cuff nicknames go. Regardless, you're bringing it up more than me.

BTW, aren't you one of the "troll" ringleaders that was in the Goff thread? I believe so the more I think about it. I've been here a long time and have been accused of being a troll in exactly 2 threads, both of which you were a big part of.

A contrary opinion isn't trolling. Let's get back on topic...

 

[Zeppelin]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

• The 3-4 posts yesterday stating emphatically that it was “all political”
-and-
• based on his vaccination politics
-and-
• therefore everyone just hates his politics.

Both are projections that not one poster here even hinted at.

The mods appear to have erased those posts and posts of people pointing it out.

Today:
• ARod “lives rent free in everyone’s head” - an assertion about every poster who isn’t on the ARod side.
• Nicknaming him “rent-free” - to continue that assertion.
• claiming everyone considers him “public enemy #1” when literally no one said that
• claiming people “hate” him, thus assigning emotions not expressed by anyone critical of him. Because surely no one could be critical without “hating” him? Cmon.

All pretty straightforward trolling, thanks for asking.

It's just too easy to put the troll label on a post when you disagree. It's lazy. I simply said Rodgers would have a lot less detractors if he had kept his COVID stance and other political beliefs to himself and that can't be denied. I know because this place was absolutely full of anti-Rodgers posts during COVID (how dumb he was, etc.). You kept countering it's not political, but that goes against all evidence.

You never heard nearly as much about how big of an a-hole Rodgers was until COVID. There was stuff out there, but not like it is today. The hate isn't all political (which I've stated multiple times), but it's a big part of it. As far as his nickname (Rent-Free), don't take it personal. CHILLAX. It's just a nickname. That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize A-Rod really grates on people. I think it's an apt nickname, myself. Several of us in this thread don't understand all the hate given all the other choices for public enemy #1 (which is why myself and others find it fascinating).

I did notice the posts were removed (which is fine). We don't want to go into politics here, but given the amount of heat Rodgers takes, I had to mention where a significant part of it comes from.

You already said all of this, all to get a response and you constantly mention rent free. Why keep repeating it?

That's why people call you a troll.

So mentioning my nickname for him a couple times is trolling? I used the term yesterday a couple times. You may disagree, but I find it an apt nickname as far as off the cuff nicknames go. Regardless, you're bringing it up more than me.

BTW, aren't you one of the "troll" ringleaders that was in the Goff thread? I believe so the more I think about it. I've been here a long time and have been accused of being a troll in exactly 2 threads, both of which you were a big part of.

A contrary opinion isn't trolling. Let's get back on topic...

Just stop already.

 

[Football Jones]

Time to move on...let's not get bogged down in he said/she said. This is quite a bit more of a touchy subject than I was anticipating.

I wonder if he's partly waiting to see what Pittsburgh does in the draft before deciding.

 

[Chaka]

I wonder if he's partly waiting to see what Pittsburgh does in the draft before deciding.

I think most people assume that is exactly what he is doing.

But, if he is, what is he thinking? He's 41, he has to understand that he isn't anyone's long term solution.

I remember he was upset the Packers took Love in the first because Rodgers thought they should draft a player that could help them "win now". And that made some sense even if the Packers have been drafting very well overall for awhile. So maybe that's all there is too it.

But the Steelers made a big move to bolster the offense with DK, that pretty much is a first round picks in hand. If Jaylen Warren can stay healthy and with DK, Pickens & Muth the Steelers have a very good skill position group. Throw in a Championship caliber defense and what's not to love for Rodgers?

I know that no player truly wants to train their replacement but it doesn't exactly speak well of Rodgers being a team first guy if he refuses to go to a team with a rookie QB.

Maybe it's not that he doesn't want to help train his replacement. Maybe he is worried his skills have diminished to the point that he could get Wally Pipped. Particularly if he suspects Tomlin won't put up with his nonsense. I think Tomlin might capitulate but it's close.

 

[fatness]

Look at all the clowns in the NFL...without their athletic ability, many of them would no doubt be a drain on society. Again, Rodgers is just a really weird choice for public enemy #1, lol. I find it fascinating.

Ol' Rent-Free got that death grip on you, I see. Rodgers owns more virtual property than anyone in the world.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

The above.

 

[MAC_32]

He's 41, he has to understand that he isn't anyone's long term solution.

I remember he was upset the Packers took Love in the first because Rodgers thought they should draft a player that could help them "win now". And that made some sense even if the Packers have been drafting very well overall for awhile. So maybe that's all there is too it.

But the Steelers made a big move to bolster the offense with DK, that pretty much is a first round picks in hand. If Jaylen Warren can stay healthy and with DK, Pickens & Muth the Steelers have a very good skill position group. Throw in a Championship caliber defense and what's not to love for Rodgers?

It still doesn't include Randall Cobb, Allan Lazard, Davante Adams, Nathaniel Hackett, and a late summer trip to Egypt.

 

[Football Jones]

Look at all the clowns in the NFL...without their athletic ability, many of them would no doubt be a drain on society. Again, Rodgers is just a really weird choice for public enemy #1, lol. I find it fascinating.

Ol' Rent-Free got that death grip on you, I see. Rodgers owns more virtual property than anyone in the world.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

The above.

Is the term 'public enemy #1' bugging you? Do I need to explain that means Rodgers has a lot of detractors? It's the same 2 or 3 people making a big deal about semantics. One person, in particular. It really drags down threads. It's just unnecessary.

I took a good-natured return jab at Hot Sauce with my nickname for A-Rod when he suggested I needed psychiatric help, lol. If you dish it out, you gotta be able to take a little ribbing back. Besides, nothing about "Rent-Free" Rodgers is directed at anyone personally.

 

[Football Jones]

I wonder if he's partly waiting to see what Pittsburgh does in the draft before deciding.

I think most people assume that is exactly what he is doing.

But, if he is, what is he thinking? He's 41, he has to understand that he isn't anyone's long term solution.

I remember he was upset the Packers took Love in the first because Rodgers thought they should draft a player that could help them "win now". And that made some sense even if the Packers have been drafting very well overall for awhile. So maybe that's all there is too it.

But the Steelers made a big move to bolster the offense with DK, that pretty much is a first round picks in hand. If Jaylen Warren can stay healthy and with DK, Pickens & Muth the Steelers have a very good skill position group. Throw in a Championship caliber defense and what's not to love for Rodgers?

I know that no player truly wants to train their replacement but it doesn't exactly speak well of Rodgers being a team first guy if he refuses to go to a team with a rookie QB.

Maybe it's not that he doesn't want to help train his replacement. Maybe he is worried his skills have diminished to the point that he could get Wally Pipped. Particularly if he suspects Tomlin won't put up with his nonsense. I think Tomlin might capitulate but it's close.

I understand where you're coming from. That said, he's not on a team now.

I'm not sure Rodgers wants to deal with a top rookie, but if he does decide to go somewhere with a top prospect, he shouldn't have an attitude about it. I would hope he would be all in.

 

[RC94]

Look at all the clowns in the NFL...without their athletic ability, many of them would no doubt be a drain on society. Again, Rodgers is just a really weird choice for public enemy #1, lol. I find it fascinating.

Ol' Rent-Free got that death grip on you, I see. Rodgers owns more virtual property than anyone in the world.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

The above.

Talking about living rent free in someone's head, he's spent more time and energy in this thread than just about anyone else.

 

[zamboni]

Kind of strange that we're still spending so much "ink"/brain power on a guy who's not even signed to a team and may not be at all when the season rolls around.

 

[massraider]

• The 3-4 posts yesterday stating emphatically that it was “all political”
-and-
• based on his vaccination politics
-and-
• therefore everyone just hates his politics.

Both are projections that not one poster here even hinted at.

The mods appear to have erased those posts and posts of people pointing it out.

Today:
• ARod “lives rent free in everyone’s head” - an assertion about every poster who isn’t on the ARod side.
• Nicknaming him “rent-free” - to continue that assertion.
• claiming everyone considers him “public enemy #1” when literally no one said that
• claiming people “hate” him, thus assigning emotions not expressed by anyone critical of him. Because surely no one could be critical without “hating” him? Cmon.

All pretty straightforward trolling, thanks for asking.

Interesting. Thanks.

Not every opinion that differs from your own or strikes a nerve is "trolling".

Hey @Hot Sauce Guy I hope you learned a valuable lesson here about giving a thoughtful and thorough answer to a question.

And before the inevitable, thanks, that's fascinating, whatever do you mean? question, here's my answer:

He laid out points for exactly why he thought it was trolling, none of which are shocking. What did he get? Ignore every point, and condescendingly explain that not everyone who disagrees is trolling.

Which is not what he said, is it? Like the original posts he was referring to, it's opinion assigned to people.

This entire routine--everyone who has a bad word to say Rodgers is not thinking clearly, they are blinded by hate that has nothing to do with football, and only a few of us free thinkers are able to objectively evaluate him--is unbelievably smug.

Sorry, what's that? No one actually said the above statement? Am I assigning a position to people?

Apologies, that must be annoying.

 

[SayWhat?]

I think we need a Last Word thread, where two posters can battle each other by needing to post last about something that nobody else on the boards cares about.

 

[Joe Bryant]

And some of you could well be right. Maybe the Jets players and coaches do actually see the Byrd Award for Most Inspirational Player named after Dennis Byrd who was paralzyzed and later walked again, as trivial or something to make a joke about. I don't think they do but I'm not in the locker room and I don't know.

But I agree with the poster above that an endless game of he said / they said probably isn't worth it.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I think we need a Last Word thread, where two posters can battle each other by needing to post last about something that nobody else on the boards cares about.

That's a good idea. I'm guilty too often of staying too long in a back and forth.

 

[Football Jones]

Rodgers is one polarizing dude. For a guy who has never been in trouble (as far as I know), he catches a lot of heat. One poster got corrected for saying people hate him, lol. Semantics has been a problem in this thread so let’s use the term ‘disliked’. He sure is disliked by a bunch of people. Lots of detractors.

Fascinating stuff. Every once in awhile somebody comes along that really gets the emotions going for whatever reason. At this point, there’s more complaining about his off-field persona than his actual performance.

If Rodgers truly wants to play, I’d take a long look at Pittsburgh if I were him. Not a fan of their OC, though, and the division is tough.

Which A-Rod will we get? He looked better towards the end of the season. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if he has a Comeback Player of the Year-type season. Then again, it wouldn’t be a shock if he continued to decline.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Kind of strange that we're still spending so much "ink"/brain power on a guy who's not even signed to a team and may not be at all when the season rolls around.

That's a good point.

I think part of it's the time of year. Of course there's draft speculation but related to the draft, lots of people are wondering how teams will blend free agency with the draft.

And clearly, Rodgers is a polarizing player that generates discussion. I'm sure we'll have another round when we get clarity about where he'll play in 2025 or if he retires and starts the Hall of Fame clock. I still think that's the mostly outcome. But as with all this, we'll see.

 

[zamboni]

Kind of strange that we're still spending so much "ink"/brain power on a guy who's not even signed to a team and may not be at all when the season rolls around.

That's a good point.

I think part of it's the time of year. Of course there's draft speculation but related to the draft, lots of people are wondering how teams will blend free agency with the draft.

And clearly, Rodgers is a polarizing player that generates discussion. I'm sure we'll have another round when we get clarity about where he'll play in 2025 or if he retires and starts the Hall of Fame clock. I still think that's the mostly outcome. But as with all this, we'll see.

Fair points. Hopefully in a few days, the abundance of new players to discuss will dwarf this thread. At least I hope so.

 

[Football Jones]

I think we need a Last Word thread, where two posters can battle each other by needing to post last about something that nobody else on the boards cares about.

That's a good idea. I'm guilty too often of staying too long in a back and forth.

Same. It’s an easy trap to fall into.

 

[Joe Bryant]

But the Steelers made a big move to bolster the offense with DK, that pretty much is a first round picks in hand. If Jaylen Warren can stay healthy and with DK, Pickens & Muth the Steelers have a very good skill position group. Throw in a Championship caliber defense and what's not to love for Rodgers?

I know that no player truly wants to train their replacement but it doesn't exactly speak well of Rodgers being a team first guy if he refuses to go to a team with a rookie QB.

Good points. I think I like the Steelers situation more than most. Although Minnesota's is much better. But they could be an attractive landing spot for him.

For the young QB relationship, that's interesting too. I don't know of course, but I think Rodgers is looking for Brady to Tampa type thing without a lot of interest in training up the next guy. He's in this to win one more ring.

It was a different situation, of course, with the Packers drafting Jordan Love, but Love talked about the experience here.

I have no idea if a similar thing with a year could happen with McCarthy and Rodgers, but it was interesting to hear Love talk about it.

Love took to the podium Wednesday to speak with reporters as Green Bay's newly minted QB1. He admitted his time spent behind Rodgers wasn't always the easiest.

"When I got drafted here I knew right away exactly what situation I was being put in, who I was being behind," Love explained. "So I knew it was going to come with time that I was going to come in and learn and grow. But I'll admit, I think the hardest time was when he re-signed the contract last year. It was kind of like, 'OK, well, where do we go from here? What do I do?' I sat back, thought to myself and came back with the approach like just go ball out.

"I learned a lot. I was able to watch a great quarterback, how he works every day, how he handles business in the locker room, interacts with teammates, how he attacks every day," Love said. "Just being able to sit back as a quarterback and observe him, observe his footwork, how the ball comes out of his hands, just how he practice every day and takes that into the game. There's just very valuable stuff. I was able to sit for three years and kind of just pick his brain and watch him work."

At this point, the sporting world knows Rodgers is a unique individual, one who goes on darkness retreats in the offseason to reset himself mentally before returning to football, and isn't afraid to use his leverage to extract maximum compensation from his employer. Rodgers certainly did plenty of the latter after the Packers selected Love, but it didn't hinder their relationship.

Instead of treating him with the warmth of a polar ice cap -- similar to the fashion in which Brett Favre once treated Rodgers before his own departure for New York -- Rodgers was surprisingly more welcoming to Love than had been previously described. This carried over through Rodgers' split from the Packers, according to Love.

"We talked after the trade. Kind of just wish you the best going forward, he wished me the best," Love said of Rodgers. "Always there for me if I need anything or had any questions. I was just grateful to be around him and for the time I had with him. To be able to learn and be behind him, it's very grateful for me."

 

[Football Jones]

But the Steelers made a big move to bolster the offense with DK, that pretty much is a first round picks in hand. If Jaylen Warren can stay healthy and with DK, Pickens & Muth the Steelers have a very good skill position group. Throw in a Championship caliber defense and what's not to love for Rodgers?

I know that no player truly wants to train their replacement but it doesn't exactly speak well of Rodgers being a team first guy if he refuses to go to a team with a rookie QB.

Good points. I think I like the Steelers situation more than most. Although Minnesota's is much better. But they could be an attractive landing spot for him.

For the young QB relationship, that's interesting too. I don't know of course, but I think Rodgers is looking for Brady to Tampa type thing without a lot of interest in training up the next guy. He's in this to win one more ring.

It was a different situation, of course, with the Packers drafting Jordan Love, but Love talked about the experience here.

I have no idea if a similar thing with a year could happen with McCarthy and Rodgers, but it was interesting to hear Love talk about it.

Love took to the podium Wednesday to speak with reporters as Green Bay's newly minted QB1. He admitted his time spent behind Rodgers wasn't always the easiest.

"When I got drafted here I knew right away exactly what situation I was being put in, who I was being behind," Love explained. "So I knew it was going to come with time that I was going to come in and learn and grow. But I'll admit, I think the hardest time was when he re-signed the contract last year. It was kind of like, 'OK, well, where do we go from here? What do I do?' I sat back, thought to myself and came back with the approach like just go ball out.

"I learned a lot. I was able to watch a great quarterback, how he works every day, how he handles business in the locker room, interacts with teammates, how he attacks every day," Love said. "Just being able to sit back as a quarterback and observe him, observe his footwork, how the ball comes out of his hands, just how he practice every day and takes that into the game. There's just very valuable stuff. I was able to sit for three years and kind of just pick his brain and watch him work."

At this point, the sporting world knows Rodgers is a unique individual, one who goes on darkness retreats in the offseason to reset himself mentally before returning to football, and isn't afraid to use his leverage to extract maximum compensation from his employer. Rodgers certainly did plenty of the latter after the Packers selected Love, but it didn't hinder their relationship.

Instead of treating him with the warmth of a polar ice cap -- similar to the fashion in which Brett Favre once treated Rodgers before his own departure for New York -- Rodgers was surprisingly more welcoming to Love than had been previously described. This carried over through Rodgers' split from the Packers, according to Love.

"We talked after the trade. Kind of just wish you the best going forward, he wished me the best," Love said of Rodgers. "Always there for me if I need anything or had any questions. I was just grateful to be around him and for the time I had with him. To be able to learn and be behind him, it's very grateful for me."

I had been wondering what his relationship with Love was like. You don’t hear a lot of positive things in the press about Rodgers so it’s a nice change. Good stuff.

 

[pinkstapler]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

"Ol' Rent-Free got that death grip on you, I see. Rodgers owns more virtual property than anyone in the world."

That.

Again, Rodgers is just a really weird choice for public enemy #1, lol. I find it fascinating.

And again, this is your projection.

I can think of at least 10 more disliked players off the top of my head before I even consider ARod.

He’s not “public enemy #1”, and no one in here has asserted that he is.

You don't have to assert it...we see it.

Hallucinations are a serious medical condition. I suggest seeking psychiatric help for that.

Oh I thought it was this trolling. But maybe people's personal biases will cloud what they view as trolling vs what they don't.

 

[Football Jones]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

"Ol' Rent-Free got that death grip on you, I see. Rodgers owns more virtual property than anyone in the world."

That.

Again, Rodgers is just a really weird choice for public enemy #1, lol. I find it fascinating.

And again, this is your projection.

I can think of at least 10 more disliked players off the top of my head before I even consider ARod.

He’s not “public enemy #1”, and no one in here has asserted that he is.

You don't have to assert it...we see it.

Hallucinations are a serious medical condition. I suggest seeking psychiatric help for that.

Oh I thought it was this trolling. But maybe people's personal biases will cloud what they view as trolling vs what they don't.

Lol. I didn’t want to say anything, but I’m glad you pointed it out. The person yelling there’s a troll, starts with a classic troll line.

I’m a little disappointed I replied back to be honest. It goes to what Joe was saying about knowing when to stop. I should’ve known better.

Anyway, hopefully we’re past it. I’m sure people are ready for the draft, lol.

 

[pinkstapler]

Troll City.

What exactly are you accusing of being trolling?

"Ol' Rent-Free got that death grip on you, I see. Rodgers owns more virtual property than anyone in the world."

That.

Again, Rodgers is just a really weird choice for public enemy #1, lol. I find it fascinating.

And again, this is your projection.

I can think of at least 10 more disliked players off the top of my head before I even consider ARod.

He’s not “public enemy #1”, and no one in here has asserted that he is.

You don't have to assert it...we see it.

Hallucinations are a serious medical condition. I suggest seeking psychiatric help for that.

Oh I thought it was this trolling. But maybe people's personal biases will cloud what they view as trolling vs what they don't.

Lol. I didn’t want to say anything, but I’m glad you pointed it out. The person yelling there’s a troll, starts with a classic troll line.

I’m a little disappointed I replied back to be honest. It goes to what Joe was saying about knowing when to stop. I should’ve known better.

Anyway, hopefully we’re past it. I’m sure people are ready for the draft, lol.

Well it's like how you point out how often a poster who talks negatively about Arod can't seem to do it without bringing up Covid or vaccines; but then you get the Pee Wee Herman level response of "well Rodgers brings it up all the time tooooooo!"

So then maybe you and ARod might just be more alike then you'd like to admit?

This thread is rampant with trolling and gaslighting from both sides of the aisle. The only obnoxious part are the people still pretending it's only one side doing it. In that way, it basically is reminiscent of an FBG political thread. At least be honest and come out and admit "yeah, I know we are doing it too, but we are on the RIGHT side, so it's ok" is really what the thought process is. Again, a thought process which pretty much sums up everyone who's wrapped their entire identity to Red vs Blue over the past 10 years or so.

 

[Joe Bryant]

This thread is rampant with trolling and gaslighting from both sides of the aisle. The only obnoxious part are the people still pretending it's only one side doing it. In that way, it basically is reminiscent of an FBG political thread. At least be honest and come out and admit "yeah, I know we are doing it too, but we are on the RIGHT side, so it's ok" is really what the thought process is. Again, a thought process which pretty much sums up everyone who's wrapped their entire identity to Red vs Blue over the past 10 years or so.

Thanks. And a good reminder why we killed the PSF.

Lots of Football focused talk ahead I hope.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Throw in a Championship caliber defense..

This part is sort of a myth. Their defesnes have crumbled horribly in big games for a good while now.

Their OL is also still pretty suspect, given all the draft capital theyve burnt on it recently. If nothing else, its depth is incredibly thin.

 

[pinkstapler]

This thread is rampant with trolling and gaslighting from both sides of the aisle. The only obnoxious part are the people still pretending it's only one side doing it. In that way, it basically is reminiscent of an FBG political thread. At least be honest and come out and admit "yeah, I know we are doing it too, but we are on the RIGHT side, so it's ok" is really what the thought process is. Again, a thought process which pretty much sums up everyone who's wrapped their entire identity to Red vs Blue over the past 10 years or so.

Thanks. And a good reminder why we killed the PSF.

Lots of Football focused talk ahead I hope.

Yeah feels like every year there's a thread or two like this and always in this lull a week or two from the draft. And it's just understandably worse when it's like a Deshaun Watson one or COVID one. So Rodgers is/isn't a jerk is comparably tame. But then it gets fun again.

Then might hit another lull in late August when there's less football stuff and we debate the next "Tyreek Hill arrested" thing till it inevitably moves away from football impact and into trying to solve abuse of power and systemic racism on a football msg board ironically populated by a demographic about as diverse as the line outside Dunkin the first day of fall when pumpkin spice flavor comes back to grace our presence (my wife is typically in that line so that's ok for me to make that joke right?) lol. And then the season kicks off and we don't have time to dwell on a topic so long it devolves into that stuff.

Gotta laugh about it to prevent from crying about it. Draft can't come soon enough for sure.

 

[Zeppelin]

And some of you could well be right. Maybe the Jets players and coaches do actually see the Byrd Award for Most Inspirational Player named after Dennis Byrd who was paralzyzed and later walked again, as trivial or something to make a joke about. I don't think they do but I'm not in the locker room and I don't know.

But I agree with the poster above that an endless game of he said / they said probably isn't worth it.

The above very well might have been the case in 2023. But when Rodgers skipped mandatory minicamp in 2024, that is anything but inspirational if not the exact opposite. The players had to question why a veteran who should be a leader would not be there with everyone else.

 

[Football Jones]

Throw in a Championship caliber defense..

This part is sort of a myth. Their defesnes have crumbled horribly in big games for a good while now.

Their OL is also still pretty suspect, given all the draft capital theyve burnt on it recently. If nothing else, its depth is incredibly thin.

With a better OL, Pittsburgh would be a lot more attractive for Rodgers. He’s not a statue like Goff (who gets good protection), but A-Rod’s wheels aren’t what they used to be.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Throw in a Championship caliber defense..

This part is sort of a myth. Their defesnes have crumbled horribly in big games for a good while now.

Their OL is also still pretty suspect, given all the draft capital theyve burnt on it recently. If nothing else, its depth is incredibly thin.

With a better OL, Pittsburgh would be a lot more attractive for Rodgers. He’s not a statue like Goff (who gets good protection), but A-Rod’s wheels aren’t what they used to be.

Yes. That has to be a worry, especially with the Achilles history.

 

[Gatorade]

I think we need a Last Word thread, where two posters can battle each other by needing to post last about something that nobody else on the boards cares about.

Cage Match ?

 

[Football Jones]

Throw in a Championship caliber defense..

This part is sort of a myth. Their defesnes have crumbled horribly in big games for a good while now.

Their OL is also still pretty suspect, given all the draft capital theyve burnt on it recently. If nothing else, its depth is incredibly thin.

With a better OL, Pittsburgh would be a lot more attractive for Rodgers. He’s not a statue like Goff (who gets good protection), but A-Rod’s wheels aren’t what they used to be.

Yes. That has to be a worry, especially with the Achilles history.

Yeah, I somehow forgot about the Achilles. That’s another reason to be concerned about the OL.

On the bright side, it’s possible Rodgers will be more mobile another year removed from the injury.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This thread is rampant with trolling and gaslighting from both sides of the aisle

Oh?

One side:
“It’s all about his politics. That’s why you hate him. That’s why he’s public enemy #1. He’s living rent free in your head. Imma nickname him “rent free”. He owns all of you.”

The other side:
“Here’s a quote from an NFL GM”. “A former teammate said this.” “Why didn’t they want him in NYJ?”

Yes, both sides are definitely exactly the same here.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Oh I thought it was this trolling. But maybe people's personal biases will cloud what they view as trolling vs what they don't.

“pointing out the trolling is the real trolling!”

—you

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

• The 3-4 posts yesterday stating emphatically that it was “all political”
-and-
• based on his vaccination politics
-and-
• therefore everyone just hates his politics.

Both are projections that not one poster here even hinted at.

The mods appear to have erased those posts and posts of people pointing it out.

Today:
• ARod “lives rent free in everyone’s head” - an assertion about every poster who isn’t on the ARod side.
• Nicknaming him “rent-free” - to continue that assertion.
• claiming everyone considers him “public enemy #1” when literally no one said that
• claiming people “hate” him, thus assigning emotions not expressed by anyone critical of him. Because surely no one could be critical without “hating” him? Cmon.

All pretty straightforward trolling, thanks for asking.

Interesting. Thanks.

Not every opinion that differs from your own or strikes a nerve is "trolling".

Hey @Hot Sauce Guy I hope you learned a valuable lesson here about giving a thoughtful and thorough answer to a question.

And before the inevitable, thanks, that's fascinating, whatever do you mean? question, here's my answer:

He laid out points for exactly why he thought it was trolling, none of which are shocking. What did he get? Ignore every point, and condescendingly explain that not everyone who disagrees is trolling.

Which is not what he said, is it? Like the original posts he was referring to, it's opinion assigned to people.

This entire routine--everyone who has a bad word to say Rodgers is not thinking clearly, they are blinded by hate that has nothing to do with football, and only a few of us free thinkers are able to objectively evaluate him--is unbelievably smug.

Sorry, what's that? No one actually said the above statement? Am I assigning a position to people?

Apologies, that must be annoying.

And they wonder why so many good contributors have left this site. It’s a ****ing mystery I tell ya!

 

[menobrown]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And some of you could well be right. Maybe the Jets players and coaches do actually see the Byrd Award for Most Inspirational Player named after Dennis Byrd who was paralzyzed and later walked again, as trivial or something to make a joke about. I don't think they do but I'm not in the locker room and I don't know.

Sorry, can you quote anyone saying the meaning behind the Dennis Byrd Award was trivial or that “players and coaches see it as trivial”?

I can’t seem to find that anywhere Joe.

It’s almost like you’re putting words into people’s mouths to twist what was actually said - that ARod winning that award didn’t necessarily reflect how players feel about him personally. Because things have context.

No no, surely everyone must be mocking the award itself; nay, the injured player it’s named for!

But you would never use that sort of appeal to emotion fallacy, I’m sure. i must be mistaken here, as that would be entirely beneath you.

But I agree with the poster above that an endless game of he said / they said probably isn't worth it.

Except it hasn’t been that. It’s been 1 person trolling and a bunch of people calling out *exactly* how that 1 person was trolling, using extremely specific examples.

Weird.

 

[Zeppelin]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

The above missed due to wanting contract extensions. That happens all the time.

Rodgers missed because he wanted to take a vacation. That does not happen all the time.

 

[eighsse2]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

The above missed due to wanting contract extensions. That happens all the time.

Rodgers missed because he wanted to take a vacation. That does not happen all the time.

Is one worse than the other?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

Actually the Aiyuk thing was extremely unpopular with 49ers players from what I’d heard locally.

Lamb was way overdue for an extension, but I’m not in Dallas or Cinci so I’m not sure how well that was received in those locker rooms.

 

[menobrown]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

The above missed due to wanting contract extensions. That happens all the time.

Rodgers missed because he wanted to take a vacation. That does not happen all the time.

Sorry but that's moving the goalpost.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

The above missed due to wanting contract extensions. That happens all the time.

Rodgers missed because he wanted to take a vacation. That does not happen all the time.

Sorry but that's moving the goalpost.

I’m kinda with @Zeppelin here - I don’t see holding out for a contract & f’ing off to another country because you want a vacation as synonymous. The contract guys don’t want to risk injury playing for less than they’re worth.

And maybe it shouldn’t matter, but I tend to judge QBs a bit differently since they’re “leadership”.

 

[menobrown]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

The above missed due to wanting contract extensions. That happens all the time.

Rodgers missed because he wanted to take a vacation. That does not happen all the time.

Sorry but that's moving the goalpost.

I’m kinda with @Zeppelin here - I don’t see holding out for a contract & f’ing off to another country because you want a vacation as synonymous. The contract guys don’t want to risk injury playing for less than they’re worth.

And maybe it shouldn’t matter, but I tend to judge QBs a bit differently since they’re “leadership”.

Well you are entitled to your opinion but in the context of missing camp diminishing your ability to lead the team I don't see any difference and think both of your opinions are selective bias.

 

[Zeppelin]

Do all the people making a mountain out of a mole hill for Rodgers missing minicamp last year put the same energy towards Lamb, Aiyuk, Higgins and Cooper missing it as well last year? Do you consider their ability to be team leaders or inspirational lessened? Do you think their teammates are stewing over them missing and don't view them the same any longer?

The above missed due to wanting contract extensions. That happens all the time.

Rodgers missed because he wanted to take a vacation. That does not happen all the time.

Is one worse than the other?

Much worse. Players hold out for contract reasons every single year. Rodgers missed to take a vacation.

I really don't understand how you or anyone else can't see the difference.

 

[menobrown]

Also I'd argue, quite strongly, that being 8 months from achilles surgery would be a more valid reason to miss minicamp then a contract holdout.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Also I'd argue, quite strongly, that being 8 months from achilles surgery would be a more valid reason to miss minicamp then a contract holdout.

That part is fair.