QB Aaron Rodgers, Free Agent (3 Viewers)

[sushinsky4tsar]

Assuming the trade goes through, where would you rate him for '23 redraft? 4 point passing TDs to 6 rushing.

High end QB2? QB12-16 range?

O/U QB14. Do you think he does better or worse in his first season with the Jets?

 

[eighsse2]

Assuming the trade goes through, where would you rate him for '23 redraft? 4 point passing TDs to 6 rushing.

High end QB2? QB12-16 range?

O/U QB14. Do you think he does better or worse in his first season with the Jets?

Over, by which I mean better than 14. Lower number. So, under.

 

[KingPrawn]

Once a trade for Rodgers gets finalized, Green Bay is going to have to eat $40 million in dead cap charges (either this season or split over two seasons if the deal is consummated after 6/1). If they take it all this year, that's 18% of this year's salary cap. That alone to me is worth getting more back in terms of draft compensation from the Jets.

It seems likely to me that they will execute the trade on June 2 (or later, but presumably the acquiring team would want him ASAP). If so, the Packers take a dead cap hit of ~$15.8M each in 2023 and 2024. That seems much more palatable than taking a ~$40.3M cap hit in 2023 to trade him before June 2. That is a savings of ~$24.5M against the 2023 cap if they wait on the trade.

This will be done before the draft. Packers want the draft pick this year. And they've been positioning themselves with restructures to eat the cap space this year. I would guess they see this as a learning year for Love and would prefer to have the cap space next year.

 

[menobrown]

O/U QB14. Do you think he does better or worse in his first season with the Jets?

Going to go with a little worse then 14.

 

[fatness]

It's a 2023 second and 2024 third that would ONLY become a first if the Jets get to the AFC Championship game. To me that would be worth it, since the Jets would still have a bunch of young talent on rookie deals. I can understand alternative takes though.

I don't think any team trading a (actual or potential) #1 pick for Rodgers is smart.

He's old, his skills are declining, he throws management and teammates under the bus, he's an AW, and his skills are declining. Yeah, I mentioned that twice.

The jets don't need a former MVP QB who's going to report late, do lots of media interviews, then pick who to blame when his play doesn't look so good. They just need a good steady QB for an entire season. Or two. I don't think that's what he is any more. But the Jets apparently do, or will settle for the "most of the season" aging former MVP QB.

I could be wrong about any of this. A lot of our opinions right now are driven by impatience more than by knowledge.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I don't think any team trading a (actual or potential) #1 pick for Rodgers is smart.

He's old, his skills are declining, he throws management and teammates under the bus, he's an AW, and his skills are declining. Yeah, I mentioned that twice.

It ONLY a first if they make it to the AFC Championship which would make your second paragraph irrelevant.
The risk of trading the first wouldn’t be an actual risk because that would mean that Rodgers was already a success.

 

[Kiddnets]

It's a 2023 second and 2024 third that would ONLY become a first if the Jets get to the AFC Championship game. To me that would be worth it, since the Jets would still have a bunch of young talent on rookie deals. I can understand alternative takes though.

I don't think any team trading a (actual or potential) #1 pick for Rodgers is smart.

He's old, his skills are declining, he throws management and teammates under the bus, he's an AW, and his skills are declining. Yeah, I mentioned that twice.

The jets don't need a former MVP QB who's going to report late, do lots of media interviews, then pick who to blame when his play doesn't look so good. They just need a good steady QB for an entire season. Or two. I don't think that's what he is any more. But the Jets apparently do, or will settle for the "most of the season" aging former MVP QB.

I could be wrong about any of this. A lot of our opinions right now are driven by impatience more than by knowledge.

Im not so sure a good steady QB ala Carr and JimmyG would get them to the AFC CG. I am confident that Rodgers can. As the team with the longest playoff drought in all of sports Im ok with a 1st if its based on getting to the AFCCG. Jets have been to only 4 in my lifetime and are 0-4. After 16 yrs of being doormats Id give a 1st to experience that kind of season...even if one and done.

 

[BassNBrew]

It's a 2023 second and 2024 third that would ONLY become a first if the Jets get to the AFC Championship game. To me that would be worth it, since the Jets would still have a bunch of young talent on rookie deals. I can understand alternative takes though.

I don't think any team trading a (actual or potential) #1 pick for Rodgers is smart.

He's old, his skills are declining, he throws management and teammates under the bus, he's an AW, and his skills are declining. Yeah, I mentioned that twice.

The jets don't need a former MVP QB who's going to report late, do lots of media interviews, then pick who to blame when his play doesn't look so good. They just need a good steady QB for an entire season. Or two. I don't think that's what he is any more. But the Jets apparently do, or will settle for the "most of the season" aging former MVP QB.

I could be wrong about any of this. A lot of our opinions right now are driven by impatience more than by knowledge.

Im not so sure a good steady QB ala Carr and JimmyG would get them to the AFC CG. I am confident that Rodgers can. As the team with the longest playoff drought in all of sports Im ok with a 1st if its based on getting to the AFCCG. Jets have been to only 4 in my lifetime and are 0-4. After 16 yrs of being doormats Id give a 1st to experience that kind of season...even if one and done.

It's not that great....either Brady or Mahomes ends up kicking your butt and you end up missing out on discussing how you're going to blow your top draft pick.

 

[Kiddnets]

It's a 2023 second and 2024 third that would ONLY become a first if the Jets get to the AFC Championship game. To me that would be worth it, since the Jets would still have a bunch of young talent on rookie deals. I can understand alternative takes though.

I don't think any team trading a (actual or potential) #1 pick for Rodgers is smart.

He's old, his skills are declining, he throws management and teammates under the bus, he's an AW, and his skills are declining. Yeah, I mentioned that twice.

The jets don't need a former MVP QB who's going to report late, do lots of media interviews, then pick who to blame when his play doesn't look so good. They just need a good steady QB for an entire season. Or two. I don't think that's what he is any more. But the Jets apparently do, or will settle for the "most of the season" aging former MVP QB.

I could be wrong about any of this. A lot of our opinions right now are driven by impatience more than by knowledge.

Im not so sure a good steady QB ala Carr and JimmyG would get them to the AFC CG. I am confident that Rodgers can. As the team with the longest playoff drought in all of sports Im ok with a 1st if its based on getting to the AFCCG. Jets have been to only 4 in my lifetime and are 0-4. After 16 yrs of being doormats Id give a 1st to experience that kind of season...even if one and done.

It's not that great....either Brady or Mahomes ends up kicking your butt and you end up missing out on discussing how you're going to blow your top draft pick.

Ill take a butt kicking from Mahomes in the AFCCG than another awful season....and the Jets just had one of the great all time drafts with offensive and defensive rookies of the year, a stud RB and several other key contributers. If there is ever a time where they could spare a 2d rder and a late 1st its now.

Also you never know - maybe Rodgers falls in love with NY and being the biggest star in a huge city and decides to play a few more years. It will be year to year agony but I personally think the talk about how its a one and done is overblown. He could end up going a few seasons like Brady in Tampa

 

[Dr. Octopus]

..either Brady or Mahomes ends up kicking your butt

I’m going to rule out Brady.

 

[BassNBrew]

..either Brady or Mahomes ends up kicking your butt

I’m going to rule out Brady.

I'm not until I see the picture of a wood stake piercing his heart.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

There’s an awkward date to watch in the Aaron Rodgers trade talks — and it’s right around the corner

lol no. I like Charles Robinson - he did a great job on the Deshawn Watson stuff - but no, the beginning of offseason workouts is not a date that Aaron Rodgers typically has circled on his calendar. He's more likely to be meditating on a mountain peak somewhere stoned out of his gourd than in Green Bay Wisconsin on April 17.

 

[KingPrawn]

It's a 2023 second and 2024 third that would ONLY become a first if the Jets get to the AFC Championship game. To me that would be worth it, since the Jets would still have a bunch of young talent on rookie deals. I can understand alternative takes though.

I don't think any team trading a (actual or potential) #1 pick for Rodgers is smart.

He's old, his skills are declining, he throws management and teammates under the bus, he's an AW, and his skills are declining. Yeah, I mentioned that twice.

The jets don't need a former MVP QB who's going to report late, do lots of media interviews, then pick who to blame when his play doesn't look so good. They just need a good steady QB for an entire season. Or two. I don't think that's what he is any more. But the Jets apparently do, or will settle for the "most of the season" aging former MVP QB.

I could be wrong about any of this. A lot of our opinions right now are driven by impatience more than by knowledge.

I wouldn't bet against a highly motivated Rodgers. Much of the other stuff you say is true but declining skills? Not from a very highly motivated QB who will have a giant size chip on his shoulder

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

How many years does he play in NY?

 

[zamboni]

How many years does he play in NY?

My guess is 2.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Man, 2 x 2nd rd draft picks is a lot then for 2 years of Rodgers. "The latest rumors have the Jets waiting until Day 2 of the draft to trade for Rodgers, with the Packers likely receiving a second-round pick and 2024 second rounder in return. "

 

[zamboni]

Man, 2 x 2nd rd draft picks is a lot then for 2 years of Rodgers. "The latest rumors have the Jets waiting until Day 2 of the draft to trade for Rodgers, with the Packers likely receiving a second-round pick and 2024 second rounder in return. "

Not really that much if you want to win now. No guarantee the 2nd rounders would amount to impact players.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Man, 2 x 2nd rd draft picks is a lot then for 2 years of Rodgers. "The latest rumors have the Jets waiting until Day 2 of the draft to trade for Rodgers, with the Packers likely receiving a second-round pick and 2024 second rounder in return. "

Not really that much if you want to win now. No guarantee the 2nd rounders would amount to impact players.

2 years of Rodgers > 5 years of the second pick overall.

 

[-OZ-]

Man, 2 x 2nd rd draft picks is a lot then for 2 years of Rodgers. "The latest rumors have the Jets waiting until Day 2 of the draft to trade for Rodgers, with the Packers likely receiving a second-round pick and 2024 second rounder in return. "

Not really that much if you want to win now. No guarantee the 2nd rounders would amount to impact players.

Yep. 2nds can be valuable but if they believe Rodgers gets them a good chance at a SB, that’s worth it (I don’t think they get to the AFC championship game either year)

 

[ghostguy123]

Man, 2 x 2nd rd draft picks is a lot then for 2 years of Rodgers. "The latest rumors have the Jets waiting until Day 2 of the draft to trade for Rodgers, with the Packers likely receiving a second-round pick and 2024 second rounder in return. "

Not really that much if you want to win now. No guarantee the 2nd rounders would amount to impact players.

Yep. 2nds can be valuable but if they believe Rodgers gets them a good chance at a SB, that’s worth it (I don’t think they get to the AFC championship game either year)

Do they get to the AFC championship game at any point in the next 5 years if they don't?

 

[-OZ-]

Man, 2 x 2nd rd draft picks is a lot then for 2 years of Rodgers. "The latest rumors have the Jets waiting until Day 2 of the draft to trade for Rodgers, with the Packers likely receiving a second-round pick and 2024 second rounder in return. "

Not really that much if you want to win now. No guarantee the 2nd rounders would amount to impact players.

Yep. 2nds can be valuable but if they believe Rodgers gets them a good chance at a SB, that’s worth it (I don’t think they get to the AFC championship game either year)

Do they get to the AFC championship game at any point in the next 5 years if they don't?

Man, 2 x 2nd rd draft picks is a lot then for 2 years of Rodgers. "The latest rumors have the Jets waiting until Day 2 of the draft to trade for Rodgers, with the Packers likely receiving a second-round pick and 2024 second rounder in return. "

Not really that much if you want to win now. No guarantee the 2nd rounders would amount to impact players.

Yep. 2nds can be valuable but if they believe Rodgers gets them a good chance at a SB, that’s worth it (I don’t think they get to the AFC championship game either year)

Do they get to the AFC championship game at any point in the next 5 years if they don't?

my Crystal ball is broken. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.
I don’t fault them for doing it for two seconds. It will be interesting to see this play out.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

 

[-OZ-]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

 

[ghostguy123]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

While true, the team is not going to be picking really high during that time frame. So why stay in QB mediocrity hell when you can move one or two "meh" picks for Rodgers and make a run with what is currently a good roster.
I mean, what are we doing here, trying to look pretty and have a shiny young looking team.......or win? They can win right now, so go win, and not mortgage the future in doing so.

 

[ghostguy123]

I actually think the jets have a better chance of landing a long term QB if they have Rodgers for a couple years and then suck for a couple years. So, win now AND later maybe?

 

[-OZ-]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

While true, the team is not going to be picking really high during that time frame. So why stay in QB mediocrity hell when you can move one or two "meh" picks for Rodgers and make a run with what is currently a good roster.
I mean, what are we doing here, trying to look pretty and have a shiny young looking team.......or win? They can win right now, so go win, and not mortgage the future in doing so.

I get why they’re doing it.
I think they’d be better off going for Lamar but that’s apparently a non starter.

 

[ghostguy123]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

While true, the team is not going to be picking really high during that time frame. So why stay in QB mediocrity hell when you can move one or two "meh" picks for Rodgers and make a run with what is currently a good roster.
I mean, what are we doing here, trying to look pretty and have a shiny young looking team.......or win? They can win right now, so go win, and not mortgage the future in doing so.

I get why they’re doing it.
I think they’d be better off going for Lamar but that’s apparently a non starter.

Every team that needs a QB should go for Lamar.
Problem is, there's only one Lamar

 

[Dr. Octopus]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

So they’re not allowed to draft a QB any of those years if they have Rodgers this year and next?

 

[ghostguy123]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

So they’re not allowed to draft a QB any of those years if they have Rodgers this year and next?

Oh my God they better not. Not in the first 5 rounds any way.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

So they’re not allowed to draft a QB any of those years if they have Rodgers this year and next?

Oh my God they better not. Not in the first 5 rounds any way.

Well they’re not going to this year with pick 13.

 

[-OZ-]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

So they’re not allowed to draft a QB any of those years if they have Rodgers this year and next?

 

[-OZ-]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

While true, the team is not going to be picking really high during that time frame. So why stay in QB mediocrity hell when you can move one or two "meh" picks for Rodgers and make a run with what is currently a good roster.
I mean, what are we doing here, trying to look pretty and have a shiny young looking team.......or win? They can win right now, so go win, and not mortgage the future in doing so.

I get why they’re doing it.
I think they’d be better off going for Lamar but that’s apparently a non starter.

Every team that needs a QB should go for Lamar.
Problem is, there's only one Lamar

Right. Yet, he’s still unsigned. The other teams that make sense for him aren’t acquiring another 100M+ QB.

 

[ghostguy123]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

While true, the team is not going to be picking really high during that time frame. So why stay in QB mediocrity hell when you can move one or two "meh" picks for Rodgers and make a run with what is currently a good roster.
I mean, what are we doing here, trying to look pretty and have a shiny young looking team.......or win? They can win right now, so go win, and not mortgage the future in doing so.

I get why they’re doing it.
I think they’d be better off going for Lamar but that’s apparently a non starter.

Every team that needs a QB should go for Lamar.
Problem is, there's only one Lamar

Right. Yet, he’s still unsigned. The other teams that make sense for him aren’t acquiring another 100M+ QB.

I didn't say they should give him a blank check.
The main reason Lamar isn't signed is.......lamar

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "it doesn't sound like" Aaron Rodgers will be traded to the Jets before the NFL Draft.​

"Green Bay seems quite content to wait until after the draft to make a trade," he said. "Both sides seem to be dug in." Jets general manager Joe Douglas said last week that Rodgers is "going to be here" amid rumors that the team will wait until the second day of the NFL Draft to make the move for Rodgers, 39. Rodgers' massive contract has proved difficult to move, and differences in compensation have come to the forefront in recent weeks. Still, the Packers are likely to deal Rodgers to New York sometime before the heat death of the universe.
RELATED:

• Zach Wilson
• , Jordan Love
• , New York Jets

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 12, 2023, 9:25 AM ET

 

[BassNBrew]

. But I think their chances of getting a long term starting QB is greater if they don’t make the deal.

From where?

There are probably a few drafts in the next 5 years.

While true, the team is not going to be picking really high during that time frame. So why stay in QB mediocrity hell when you can move one or two "meh" picks for Rodgers and make a run with what is currently a good roster.
I mean, what are we doing here, trying to look pretty and have a shiny young looking team.......or win? They can win right now, so go win, and not mortgage the future in doing so.

I get why they’re doing it.
I think they’d be better off going for Lamar but that’s apparently a non starter.

Every team that needs a QB should go for Lamar.
Problem is, there's only one Lamar

Might as well be 20 Lamar's right now.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

This is gonna all be odd when Rodgers vetoes a trade out of Green Bay. He's a weird dude.

 

[menobrown]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "it doesn't sound like" Aaron Rodgers will be traded to the Jets before the NFL Draft.​

"Green Bay seems quite content to wait until after the draft to make a trade," he said. "Both sides seem to be dug in." Jets general manager Joe Douglas said last week that Rodgers is "going to be here" amid rumors that the team will wait until the second day of the NFL Draft to make the move for Rodgers, 39. Rodgers' massive contract has proved difficult to move, and differences in compensation have come to the forefront in recent weeks. Still, the Packers are likely to deal Rodgers to New York sometime before the heat death of the universe.
RELATED:

• Zach Wilson
• , Jordan Love
• , New York Jets

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 12, 2023, 9:25 AM ET

I feel like the Jets and GB both could not be playing this out much worse.

For GB , if what Shefter is saying is true, they won't be getting any picks or compensation that can help them this year and as we all know future picks are devalued vs current.

On the Jets angle they could have come into this with a little more of a poker face and not been so apparent they are putting all their eggs in the Rodgers basket and make GB think they hold ALL the leverage.

 

[-OZ-]

This is gonna all be odd when Rodgers vetoes a trade out of Green Bay. He's a weird dude.

Curve ball - jets Trade for love instead

 

[zeeshan2]

According to
@CharlesRobinson, the #Packers asking price is a 2023 2nd and a 2024 guaranteed 1st. And they are willing to give something back in 2025 if Rodgers retires after one season. And the #Jets don't want it.

https://twitter.com/wendellfp/status/1646235224970231813

And this is kind of shocking: Robinson reports the parties had the parameters of a deal in place. But after Rodgers said the "90% retired" thing, Woody Johnson got scared to spend high draft capital on him. That would explain why the #Packers don't want to take less.

https://twitter.com/wendellfp/status/1646236480753287172

 

[jurrassic]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

 

[Tau837]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

So you think there is a team other than the Jets willing to trade "one 2nd or even a few 3rds" and also pay Rodgers more than $50M against their cap this season? Which team do you think is willing to do that?

IMO it is trade to the Jets, or Rodgers is back in GB.

 

[jurrassic]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

So you think there is a team other than the Jets willing to trade "one 2nd or even a few 3rds" and also pay Rodgers more than $50M against their cap this season? Which team do you think is willing to do that?

IMO it is trade to the Jets, or Rodgers is back in GB.

My understanding is that the cap hit is only $15.79 million to the Jets for this year, but in terms of cash spent they would be paying him nearly $60M. That assumes he doesn't play beyond this year. If he does the cap hit goes up to $32.5 million in 2024, but the cash owed decreases.

I can see a billionaire owner willing to trade for a HOF qb for a) a shot at the Super Bowl and b) the chance to swoop in, buy on the cheap, and stick it to Woody Johnson and the NY market

 

[rockaction]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

Every post you make on this board you come in and crap on the Jets. It's so transparent. You, like me, have no idea what is holding the deal up so I have no idea why you speak with any certainty about it. You know as much as I do. Nothing.

 

[Tau837]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

So you think there is a team other than the Jets willing to trade "one 2nd or even a few 3rds" and also pay Rodgers more than $50M against their cap this season? Which team do you think is willing to do that?

IMO it is trade to the Jets, or Rodgers is back in GB.

My understanding is that the cap hit is only $15.79 million to the Jets for this year, but in terms of cash spent they would be paying him nearly $60M. That assumes he doesn't play beyond this year. If he does the cap hit goes up to $32.5 million in 2024, but the cash owed decreases.

I can see a billionaire owner willing to trade for a HOF qb for a) a shot at the Super Bowl and b) the chance to swoop in, buy on the cheap, and stick it to Woody Johnson and the NY market

Rodgers has a guaranteed 2023 option that must be exercised before week 1. If any team trades for him, they become the team that exercises it. The amount is $58.3M. That hits the cap of the team he plays for. Combined with his salary, that would be ~$60M against the 2023 cap.

A team that trades for him could theoretically agree to an extension with him that restructures that and lowers the 2023 cap hit, but it has to hit the cap in 2023 or a later season.

I think this probably undermines your perspective here.

 

[Whyatt]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

So you think there is a team other than the Jets willing to trade "one 2nd or even a few 3rds" and also pay Rodgers more than $50M against their cap this season? Which team do you think is willing to do that?

IMO it is trade to the Jets, or Rodgers is back in GB.

My understanding is that the cap hit is only $15.79 million to the Jets for this year, but in terms of cash spent they would be paying him nearly $60M. That assumes he doesn't play beyond this year. If he does the cap hit goes up to $32.5 million in 2024, but the cash owed decreases.

I can see a billionaire owner willing to trade for a HOF qb for a) a shot at the Super Bowl and b) the chance to swoop in, buy on the cheap, and stick it to Woody Johnson and the NY market

The salary cap numbers here are correct. The owner of the salary cap website Overthecap.com created a Youtube video with all the numbers detailed. The video makes it very clear why it's in the best interest of the Packers to trade Arod this offseason.

However, there are zero billionare owners besides Woody Johnson willing to trade for Aaron Rodgers at this point in time.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I definitely have a vested interest in not seeing Rodgers in a Jets uniform, but I’m largely rooting for the trade falling through mainly for the absolute chaos/drama it will create.

 

[KingPrawn]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

Wasn't it the 49ers who a couple of years ago called the Packers about Rodgers? IIRC that was the story that broke the day of the draft. SF has a lot of uncertainty right now at the QB position and a roster that is much closer to making a Super Bowl run than the Jets. Much much closer. Not sure why everybody is dismissing another team sweeping in and making an offer. If I understand the reporting correctly (and at this point, who knows what is true) the Jets and Packers essentially had an agreement in place so the Packers allowed the Jets to speak to Rodgers. Then the Jets back out of the agreement and decide to low-ball the Packers. I can easily see a scenario where the Packers are fed up with the Jets and trade Rodgers to another team for less.

 

[-OZ-]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

I probably missed something but where’s the bad faith by the jets? The guaranteed 1st is too much.
I assumed the deal might have been waiting until the jets get on the clock at 1.13. If a player the packers like is available there (JSN? Murphy?) the small trade up might help. OTOH, if a player like Levis is available at 13 maybe the Jets bow out.

 

[-OZ-]

.

However, there are zero billionare owners besides Woody Johnson willing to trade for Aaron Rodgers at this point in time.

Presuming this is true, why would the jets give more than they want? They seem to be in the better position, even if that meant saying F it and sign Wentz (or whomever else gets them through the season). Not ideal but perhaps better long term than giving higher picks than they want.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

I probably missed something but where’s the bad faith by the jets? The guaranteed 1st is too much.
I assumed the deal might have been waiting until the jets get on the clock at 1.13. If a player the packers like is available there (JSN? Murphy?) the small trade up might help. OTOH, if a player like Levis is available at 13 maybe the Jets bow out.

It depends whether or not you believe the Charles Robinson report. Everyone expected the teams had a deal in place on trade compensation before the Jets were given permission to speak directly with the player. That is apparently standard practice. I guess maybe the agreement they made was conditional in some way, at least in the Jets’ opinion. If it is true as reported that the Jets agreed to specific trade parameters then later backtracked due to a comment Rodgers made on the McAfee show, I think that indicates bad faith. But I agree there’s too much confusion and grey surrounding this situation to form a judgment based on current information.