QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (3 Viewers)

[The Kerminator]

I still think this deal is already done and they are just waiting until the draft to announce for whatever reason. Both teams are operating and talking like it is already done. From Mark Murphy in March talking about Rodgers as a Packer in the past tense to the Jets GM making his salad dressing pronouncement over the weekend. The Jets moves also indicate that they will have Rodgers - from signing Lazard and Boyle to showing interest in OBJ. There's been no maneuvering or leaked reports by either team in the media to better their position, just a lot of speculation. What's even more telling than anything else is that Rodgers has remained quiet throughout all this speculation. For a guy that loves the attention and that loves playing the victim he hasn't said a word about how the Packers are treating him so poorly. I think the deal is signed, sealed and waiting to be delivered. The rest is just a lot of in-the-dark report(er)s looking for clicks or listens. If I am correct I will give the Jets and Packers credit for keeping the secret better than US intelligence with top secret documents.

 

[jurrassic]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

Every post you make on this board you come in and crap on the Jets. It's so transparent. You, like me, have no idea what is holding the deal up so I have no idea why you speak with any certainty about it. You know as much as I do. Nothing.

I wouldn't classify what I posted as crapping on the Jets. There has been a lot of speculation over the last several months, admittedly by NY based national media, that there had to have a been deal in place, before the Jets were given permission to talk with Rodgers, and surely the Packers were the ones who backed out, got greedy and asked for more. If what Robinson reported was true, I was just pointing out that irony.

There are much easier ways to crap on the Jets. No winning season since 2015. No playoff appearances since 2010. The new savior GM hasn't even put a team with a winning record on the field, in his 3 years there.

This entire thread is speculation based on media reports! That's all there is. This is a FANTASY FOOTBALL site. Every single topic is speculation on what could happen during the season! We have people acting like salary cap experts in here.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

I probably missed something but where’s the bad faith by the jets? The guaranteed 1st is too much.
I assumed the deal might have been waiting until the jets get on the clock at 1.13. If a player the packers like is available there (JSN? Murphy?) the small trade up might help. OTOH, if a player like Levis is available at 13 maybe the Jets bow out.

That’s the same poster that wondered out loud a month or so back why the Jets “don’t just give the Packers whatever they want”.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

I probably missed something but where’s the bad faith by the jets? The guaranteed 1st is too much.
I assumed the deal might have been waiting until the jets get on the clock at 1.13. If a player the packers like is available there (JSN? Murphy?) the small trade up might help. OTOH, if a player like Levis is available at 13 maybe the Jets bow out.

It depends whether or not you believe the Charles Robinson report. Everyone expected the teams had a deal in place on trade compensation before the Jets were given permission to speak directly with the player. That is apparently standard practice. I guess maybe the agreement they made was conditional in some way, at least in the Jets’ opinion. If it is true as reported that the Jets agreed to specific trade parameters then later backtracked due to a comment Rodgers made on the McAfee show, I think that indicates bad faith. But I agree there’s too much confusion and grey surrounding this situation to form a judgment based on current information.

Each story contradicts the previous story.

 

[jurrassic]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

I probably missed something but where’s the bad faith by the jets? The guaranteed 1st is too much.
I assumed the deal might have been waiting until the jets get on the clock at 1.13. If a player the packers like is available there (JSN? Murphy?) the small trade up might help. OTOH, if a player like Levis is available at 13 maybe the Jets bow out.

That’s the same poster that wondered out loud a month or so back why the Jets “don’t just give the Packers whatever they want”.

That comment was made based on the reported trade wants of the Packers, which was a 2nd this year and a 1st next year, which as now rumored they did originally agree to. It was also compared directly against the Stafford trade. As a fan, which we all are here, if you could win the Super or keep the 32nd pick in the draft, which offer would you take?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

As a fan, which we all are here, if you could win the Super or keep the 32nd pick in the draft, which offer would you take?

This is a disingenuous question. It’s not how these things work.

 

[Whyatt]

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However, there are zero billionare owners besides Woody Johnson willing to trade for Aaron Rodgers at this point in time.

Presuming this is true, why would the jets give more than they want? They seem to be in the better position, even if that meant saying F it and sign Wentz (or whomever else gets them through the season). Not ideal but perhaps better long term than giving higher picks than they want.

Closing the Rodgers trade sooner has obvious benefits from a Jets perspective. Right now its a distraction (for both teams) with fanbase drama. Then there is the commercial / marketing angle. I'm not sure if Rodgers plans any voluntary minicamp participation but missing that is not helpful.

I don't think either side wants to fight dirty and instead would like to come to a gentleman's agreement that benefits both sides.

If the Jets want to play hardball, they could play this this to the point Rodgers needs to show up to Packers training camp, or even to the week before the season where the Packers need to pay him $59 million. At that point I'd argue Rodgers has negative valve to the Packers.

 

[-OZ-]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

I probably missed something but where’s the bad faith by the jets? The guaranteed 1st is too much.
I assumed the deal might have been waiting until the jets get on the clock at 1.13. If a player the packers like is available there (JSN? Murphy?) the small trade up might help. OTOH, if a player like Levis is available at 13 maybe the Jets bow out.

That’s the same poster that wondered out loud a month or so back why the Jets “don’t just give the Packers whatever they want”.

That comment was made based on the reported trade wants of the Packers, which was a 2nd this year and a 1st next year, which as now rumored they did originally agree to. It was also compared directly against the Stafford trade. As a fan, which we all are here, if you could win the Super or keep the 32nd pick in the draft, which offer would you take?

If it was contingent on the pick being 30-32 I’d think that’s almost easy. But that’s not what it says.

 

[-OZ-]

Ironic that everyone has been bad mouthing the Packers and it's the Jets who are acting in bad faith. I would not be surprised if the Packers trade him to another organization for the one 2nd or even a few 3rds, purely on principle. Remember the Packers have no owner saying "Get this done".

I probably missed something but where’s the bad faith by the jets? The guaranteed 1st is too much.
I assumed the deal might have been waiting until the jets get on the clock at 1.13. If a player the packers like is available there (JSN? Murphy?) the small trade up might help. OTOH, if a player like Levis is available at 13 maybe the Jets bow out.

It depends whether or not you believe the Charles Robinson report. Everyone expected the teams had a deal in place on trade compensation before the Jets were given permission to speak directly with the player. That is apparently standard practice. I guess maybe the agreement they made was conditional in some way, at least in the Jets’ opinion. If it is true as reported that the Jets agreed to specific trade parameters then later backtracked due to a comment Rodgers made on the McAfee show, I think that indicates bad faith. But I agree there’s too much confusion and grey surrounding this situation to form a judgment based on current information.

Somehow I’m not taking everything that’s been said by Robinson and Rodgers as actual facts.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Rodgers has played in 1 super bowl in his life. One. In 18 seasons. Well, let's say 15 seasons since he sat 3 years. This isn't the AFC, where Brady/Bellchek ruled. Or Peyton Maning had 4 appearances. It's in the lowly NFC. He's lost 5 NFC championship games. So why people think he's gonna lead the even more lowly than GB, NY Jets to anything is beyond me. More talent? Please, there were plenty of very talented GB teams.

 

[-OZ-]

Rodgers has player in 1 super bowl in his life. One. In 18 seasons. Well, let's say 15 seasons since he sat 3 years. This isn't the AFC, where Brady/Bellchek and Peyton Manning ruled. Or Peyton Maning had 4 appearances. It's in the lowly NFC. He's lost 5 NFC championship games. So why people think he's gonna lead the even more lowly than GB, NY Jets to anything is beyond me.

Yep. And past his prime, in a REALLY tough conference.
Although I do think the jets outside QB are among the best teams in the league.

 

[ghostguy123]

I don't see this as a distraction since nothing is happening with players yet.
However, after the draft is when I could see it becoming an issue.

 

[Faust]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Aaron Rodgers' trade to the Jets "should be done" this week.​

Rapoport noted that after a dormant period of negotiations, things are heating up between the Jets and the Packers again. He added that the Packers are expected to receive a second-round pick, meaning the deal has to be done before Friday. It sounds like the neverending saga of Rodgers making his way to New York is concluding, though we have been down this road before. A deal should be done before the end of the week, though nothing is guaranteed at this point.
RELATED:

• New York Jets

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 24, 2023, 1:21 PM ET

 

[eighsse2]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Aaron Rodgers' trade to the Jets "should be done" this week.​

Rapoport noted that after a dormant period of negotiations, things are heating up between the Jets and the Packers again. He added that the Packers are expected to receive a second-round pick, meaning the deal has to be done before Friday. It sounds like the neverending saga of Rodgers making his way to New York is concluding, though we have been down this road before. A deal should be done before the end of the week, though nothing is guaranteed at this point.
RELATED:

• New York Jets

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 24, 2023, 1:21 PM ET

 

[eighsse2]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Aaron Rodgers' trade to the Jets "should be done" this week.​

Rapoport noted that after a dormant period of negotiations, things are heating up between the Jets and the Packers again. He added that the Packers are expected to receive a second-round pick, meaning the deal has to be done before Friday. It sounds like the neverending saga of Rodgers making his way to New York is concluding, though we have been down this road before. A deal should be done before the end of the week, though nothing is guaranteed at this point.
RELATED:

• New York Jets

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 24, 2023, 1:21 PM ET

I take back my yawn. The deal is done!

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Jets and Packers have agreed to a deal for QB Aaron Rodgers.​

In the reported deal, the Jets would receive Aaron Rodgers, the 15th overall pick, and a fifth-round pick while the Packers receive the 13th, 42nd, and 207th pick in this year's draft and a conditional 2024 second that would become a first if Rodgers plays more than 65 percent of the offensive snaps in 2023. It appears as if the Rodgers saga is finally coming to an end (for now) with the terms of the deal agreed upon by the two sides. Rodgers and the Packers burned numerous bridges this offseason after the two had been gradually falling out over the previous three seasons, leaving the proverbial door closed on a return to Green Bay. The Jets get their aging veteran quarterback while the Packers move forward with former first-round draft pick Jordan Love. Initial reports indicated the hold up on the deal was New York's 13th overall pick in this year's draft, making the inclusion of a non-performance-protected 2024 conditional first-round pick a significant win for general manager Brian Gutekunst and the Packers.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 24, 2023, 4:25 PM ET

 

[Wingnut]

There it is

 

[ghostguy123]

So what the condition for the 2024 pick?

 

[The Big Donkey]

As part of the deal, the Jets are swapping the No. 13 overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft with the Packers’ No. 15 overall, while giving up No. 42 overall (second round), No. 207 overall (sixth round) and a conditional 2024 second-rounder, and the Packers are giving the Jets a 2023 fifth-rounder (No. 170 overall), per multiple reports.

The 2024 second-rounder will become a first-rounder if Rodgers plays 65 percent of the plays next season.

 

[beef]

I would have been plenty happy with just the move up to 13 and getting 42.

 

[Ilov80s]

So what the condition for the 2024 pick?

AR plays 65% of the snaps this year and 24 2nd becomes a 1st.

 

[sheerterror]

So what the condition for the 2024 pick?

Rodgers plays 65% of the snaps this year.

 

[beef]

So what the condition for the 2024 pick?

Probably something about horse meds or hallucinogens.

 

[Ilov80s]

Good deal for Green Bay. I can't believe they potentially got a 1st round pick without any condition that Rodgers is on the Jets roster next season.

 

[BobbyLayne]

FLEECED is trending on Twitter

 

[beef]

How long until reports of Rodgers dating Zach Wilson's hot mom?

 

[ghostguy123]

So how much of the salary are the jets on the hook for, and what will the cap hit be for this year and next?

 

[IHEARTFF]

I wish more of the discussion was about trade compensation and not other fluff that media keeps throwing out there. I think it could be an interesting contract structure with the initial value being 2 2nd round picks (24 and 25) that could each become a 1st round pick if NYJ make the playoffs each of the next 2 seasons. Something like that would be fascinating.

not horribly off. 2 2nds with 1 becoming a 1st much easier to reach. little favorable to GB, but what were the Jets going to do?

 

[IHEARTFF]

So how much of the salary are the jets on the hook for, and what will the cap hit be for this year and next?

yeah good questions

 

[Kiddnets]

I wish more of the discussion was about trade compensation and not other fluff that media keeps throwing out there. I think it could be an interesting contract structure with the initial value being 2 2nd round picks (24 and 25) that could each become a 1st round pick if NYJ make the playoffs each of the next 2 seasons. Something like that would be fascinating.

not horribly off. 2 2nds with 1 becoming a 1st much easier to reach. little favorable to GB, but what were the Jets going to do?

As a Jets fan GB definitely got more than I was hoping. Im thinking the Jets got some type of verbal that he will play at least 2 yrs so perhaps thats why they moved off it. Regardless - after a decade of misery and being a joke this is going to be a fun season for the Jets. After crushing last years draft they could afford to give up this capital so it wont be decimating even if its a one and done. Happy its over and gonna enjoy this season being relevant!

 

[travdogg]

That's about double what I thought GB would be able to get.

Move up 2 spots and get a (very likely) 1st and a 2nd.

ETA: Really crazy GB got this much, for a guy who 100% wasn't going to be on the Packers.

 

[Willy]

Pretty sure the Jets will get at least a year of chip on his shoulder, awesome, MVP candidate Rodgers. Of course, they probably won't make it past the AFCCG, if that. So factor that into the calculation,

 

[Tanner9919]

good deal for NYJ. move down 2 spots, keep your first pick and get the best QB in football. anyone watching GB the last two years has seen what a pouty Rodgers can do. he's a saboteur , you think his stats fell off just because of his age? hell no, he wanted out.and he got his way.
let's see Love win 5 games in 2023 while the jets are in the afc championship game. they have all the young pieces needed. just have to add an o-lineman to the mix at 15.
whats the hit rate on 2nd round picks? or 6th rounders ?

 

[Warhogs]

Maybe the smoke about other teams potentially jumping in wasn't all smoke?

 

[Deamon]

So what the condition for the 2024 pick?

AR plays 65% of the snaps this year and 24 2nd becomes a 1st.

Offensive snaps or just snaps in general? lol

 

[Deamon]

good deal for NYJ. move down 2 spots, keep your first pick and get the best QB in football. anyone watching GB the last two years has seen what a pouty Rodgers can do. he's a saboteur , you think his stats fell off just because of his age? hell no, he wanted out.and he got his way.
let's see Love win 5 games in 2023 while the jets are in the afc championship game. they have all the young pieces needed. just have to add an o-lineman to the mix at 15.
whats the hit rate on 2nd round picks? or 6th rounders ?

Best QB in football? lol

Great deal for the Packers. Feel like the Packers woulda eventually said yes even if they didn't throw in that likely 1st round pick in 2024. Jets gave up too much.

 

[Deamon]

Maybe the smoke about other teams potentially jumping in wasn't all smoke?

He made it clear he wouldn't play for ANY other team except for the Jets. Other teams coming in wouldn't have mattered or changed anything.

 

[ghostguy123]

All in all, probably good for both. I'd be pretty happy with the deal if I were a Pack fan.

 

[travdogg]

Still fully expecting a 3rd place finish in NY, but maybe that's a wild card now. Buffalo and Miami aren't going anywhere.

 

[rockaction]

Thrilled we got Rodgers, really unhappy with the conditional first round pick next year.

 

[Kiddnets]

Still fully expecting a 3rd place finish in NY, but maybe that's a wild card now. Buffalo and Miami aren't going anywhere.

Jets beat Buffalo and Miami last year with one of the worst QBs of all time....

 

[travdogg]

Still fully expecting a 3rd place finish in NY, but maybe that's a wild card now. Buffalo and Miami aren't going anywhere.

Jets beat Buffalo and Miami last year with one of the worst QBs of all time....

They had the better QB in the Miami game. Say what you will about Zach Wilson, he's clearly better than Skylar Thompson.

ETA: Hopefully for both teams that matchup never happens again.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Still fully expecting a 3rd place finish in NY, but maybe that's a wild card now. Buffalo and Miami aren't going anywhere.

Jets beat Buffalo and Miami last year with one of the worst QBs of all time....

They had the better QB in the Miami game. Say what you will about Zach Wilson, he's clearly better than Skylar Thompson.

And they have the better QB now.

 

[Chemical X]

i’ve been a jet fan since the 70s.

compensation is relative. at some point, you need to join the league. i don’t mind the 23 #2, since the jets have another #2. i don’t mind the pick swap 13&15. the theory here is that the 24 #1 will be in the 20s. if the pick is #10, obviously the trade is a disaster. if the pick is 26 or so, then the jets made the playoffs and likely won a game…..something that hasn’t happened in 10 years. i’ll take that gamble. heck, look what the seahawks gave the jets for jamal adams.

it’s only a 24 #1. this gives them a chance to be relevant.

i have no issues.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Congrats all around. As a lifelong Packer fan I will miss watching Rodgers play football for the Packers - what a pleasure it has been. Jets are getting a great one. The comp seems fair to me. Its going to be fun to watch this all play out. Would love to see the Jets and Rodgers in the Superbowl, hopefully in a loss to JLove and the Packers.

 

[jurrassic]

Feel a little vindicated this afternoon. Packers got the 1st and 2nd they were looking for, and the Jets were willing to give it. Just like I posited in this thread. "Why wouldn't the Jets just give the Packers what they want?" They did.

 

[travdogg]

Crazy stat: With this trade, the longest tenured QB in the NFL on his current team is Dak Prescott. Mahomes is 2nd!!!

Wasn't that long ago we had: Peyton, McNabb, Brady, Romo, Eli, Rivers, Big Ben, Rodgers, Ryan, Flacco, Stafford and Wilson all on one team for a decade or more.

 

[barackdhouse]

Just dropping this - I think the Jets overpaid. I like this move for the Packers. I think this makes the Jets just good enough to compete and eventually lose to either of the Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Chargers, maybe the Dolphins, Titans, Ravens, too. He couldn't get it done in the NFC so yeah good luck getting through the AFC. Just my ten cents and calling my shot.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Feel a little vindicated this afternoon. Packers got the 1st and 2nd they were looking for, and the Jets were willing to give it. Just like I posited in this thread. "Why wouldn't the Jets just give the Packers what they want?" They did.

I like McAfee but his narrative that the Pack had zero leverage dealing his buddy Rodgers was nonsense. Big W it's also non-performance related that can make it a 1

That leverage was the prospect of starting Zach Wilson which everyone and their mother knew couldn't happen

 

[-OZ-]

Feel a little vindicated this afternoon. Packers got the 1st and 2nd they were looking for, and the Jets were willing to give it. Just like I posited in this thread. "Why wouldn't the Jets just give the Packers what they want?" They did.

Unless I’ve lost track, the jets weren’t willing to give an unconditional first. They didn’t.