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QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (3 Viewers)

killface said:
Why mislead reporters if you have to wear the colored wristband anyway?  Seems weird...
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From what I understand the wristbands are only in the facility when near other staff and players. Bucs reporters tried to crack that nut in the preseason. 

 
Aaron Rodgers was secretly unvaccinated:

And it wasn’t just his cagey use of the term “immunized,” followed by his vow to not judge a group to which he secretly belonged. A G.M. with another team tried to tell me weeks ago that Rodgers isn’t vaccinated. I looked up photos of Rodgers from the preseason, standing on the sideline in street clothes. (The photo attached to this article comes from one of those games.) He wasn’t wearing a mask. I told my source that this means that Rodgers was vaccinated. In actuality, it means that he was deliberately and flagrantly violating COVID policies to create the impression that he’s vaccinated.

What other protocols did he violate? Was he fined for it? How often was he fined? What other consequences were imposed or threatened?

And why? Why not just be openly unvaccinated?

Here’s why. Rodgers abhors criticism. If he’d been open about his unvaccinated status, he would have heard about it from the media. And so the guy who is so sensitive that he’s sensitive about being called sensitive chose to create the false impression that he’s vaccinated, all because he didn’t want anyone to call him out for not being vaccinated.
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ignatiusjreilly said:
At some point during my childhood, I decided I would never fall back on the "What I said was technically not a lie" excuse. Outside of sworn testimony, the only reason not to lie is because you have a moral code against it. And if that's the case, how is it any better morally speaking to say something intended to give someone a false impression? Why even bother? If you're going to lie, then just lie. Don't mislead people and pretend you're any better based on a technicality.
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If there was official protocols to provide to the league and rules that were followed based on this I’m guessing he’s looking at discipline from the league. 

Perhaps he read the rules very closely and they weren’t clear. 

This will be all sorted out in the next couple days.

A-Aron bringing the drama!

 
If the question was have you been vaccinated as opposed to have you been vaccinated against covid he technically didn't lie if he's ever been vaccinated for anything which I would guess he has as a child. However he did misled. He also didn't provide false vaccination papers, because if he did he would be playing after after two negative tests. Lots of people have gotten covid while being vaccinated. That wouldn't have even been questioned.

 
killface said:
yea he is about to be suspended. No way the league lets this slide
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I think so and if he was not a fake vax card and just GB staff letting him slide I would also expect heavy fines, suspensions or loss of draft picks coming Green Bay's way.

ETA-actually I take back everything I just wrote, lol. I read it wrong that he was following protocols for vaccinated player but Rapoport said he's been following protocols for un-vaxxed.

So to me end of story. He lied to the media. That seems to be the extent of it.

 
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Gilroy34 said:
:lol:  What are you talking about?  There is no chance the league suspends him.
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No way the league let's this slide.  There are pictures all over the place of him not following the guidelines.  I agree with above.  He gets suspended, team gets fined

 
Now the fun begins. Will they try to take his game check. A lot different taking Lazards $47k to Rodgers $950k a game. Let's see how it plays out. 

 
The General said:
If there was official protocols to provide to the league and rules that were followed based on this I’m guessing he’s looking at discipline from the league. 

Perhaps he read the rules very closely and they weren’t clear. 

This will be all sorted out in the next couple days.

A-Aron bringing the drama!
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The league was aware.  They turned a blind eye.   Now, will they suspend him in a desperate attempt to save face and deflect from their obvious double standard for a star player?  Anyone who has followed the NFL knows that Goodell is every bit the liar that Rodgers is.  So yes — there is a very real chance he gets disciplined, and the team does too.  Even though the NFL knew the truth all along.

 
killface said:
So why all the photos of him not following protocols?  It's almost worse that the team knew?
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This question needs to be addressed. He obviously led the fans and media to believe he was vaccinated with his words and actions. If the team and league knew, more drama incoming.

 
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Alex P Keaton said:
The league was aware.  They turned a blind eye.   Now, will they suspend him in a desperate attempt to save face and deflect from their obvious double standard for a star player?  Anyone who has followed the NFL knows that Goodell is every bit the liar that Rodgers is.  So yes — there is a very real chance he gets disciplined, and the team does too.  Even though the NFL knew the truth all along.
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Thanks for all the clarity

 
Will all depend on how the rules are written. If they don't make it clear then he's fine after he passes the test other than being a bit of a weasel :lol:

 
Alex P Keaton said:
He didn’t fake a card
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Yeah, there's zero evidence that this happened.

What's the more likely scenario: That he submitted a fake card and, once he tested positive, broke down and admitted the whole scheme? Or that the Packers knew all along he wasn't vaccinated, but he got away with not adhering to the protocols because he's the biggest star on the team? (I would also guess that even non-stars who aren't vaccinated probably aren't following protocols; we just don't hear about them because they haven't tested positive yet.)

 
Alex P Keaton said:
He didn’t fake a card
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Well here's the thing (and I'm getting nervous because I sense Joe lurking): The team's medical staff is REQUIRED by law to track each player's and record if they are vaccinated/not vaccinated and do the proper mandates. If you're saying [as a man who might have inside knowledge] he didn't use a fake card... when the Packers are going to get killed for this. With how much the NFL and Alan Stills have done the last 2 years, that's a huge black mark if a whole organization was flaunting the rules.

And I don't mean NFL wise, I'm talking medical licenses here.

 
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Alex P Keaton said:
The league was aware.  They turned a blind eye.   Now, will they suspend him in a desperate attempt to save face and deflect from their obvious double standard for a star player?  Anyone who has followed the NFL knows that Goodell is every bit the liar that Rodgers is.  So yes — there is a very real chance he gets disciplined, and the team does too.  Even though the NFL knew the truth all along.
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Is this from team reporters or something? I missed this.

 
bcat01 said:
Ian Rapoport

@RapSheet

My understanding is that Aaron Rodgers has been following protocols for unvaccinated players while inside the building.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1455918856980123663
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That would make sense. He wanted the public to think he was vaxxed, but he wasn't directly lying to the team/league.

Not saying that's any better morally, but it seems a lot more likely than some of the baroque theories people are spinning in this thread

 
menobrown said:
And one thing for sure, there is zero doubt that his response to media about being vaccinated was misleading at best. Very snaky and character revealing.
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It's one of those things that isn't anybody's business on one hand. Seeing how other unvaccinated players were treated by reporters you can see why he would lie. I don't hold it against him. It's a white lie.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
I have a reliable source.  It’s from my own reporting.  While you guys have no reason to trust this (no judgment implied), I do.

FWIW - this source told me 8 weeks ago that Rodgers was unvaccinated, but that the info couldn’t be shared anywhere.  So I haven’t shared it.
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Good stuff.

Rodgers is obviously smart I'm guessing he went through all the rules and is covered from any further discipline other than the being out extra time because he's unvaxed.

 
cloppbeast said:
It's one of those things that isn't anybody's business on one hand. Seeing how other unvaccinated players were treated by reporters you can see why he would lie. I don't hold it against him. It's a white lie.
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I'd respond but would just get political so will just agree to disagree.

 
cloppbeast said:
It's one of those things that isn't anybody's business on one hand. Seeing how other unvaccinated players were treated by reporters you can see why he would lie. I don't hold it against him. It's a white lie.
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it's a white lie until someone at risk who thinks he is vaccinated let's his own guard down.  Sure there is some personally responsibility in there but you can't just lie to the media and then act in public like you are vaccinated.  

 
killface said:
it's a white lie until someone at risk who thinks he is vaccinated let's his own guard down.  Sure there is some personally responsibility in there but you can't just lie to the media and then act in public like you are vaccinated.  
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Is he hanging out with reporters, like golfing or something?

 
Not trying to make this a political issue: I believe getting vaccinated is the best decision a person can make given all the current data but I also believe it’s a personal decision.

But might Rogers have had COVID before? Perhaps he side stepped the reporter’s question implying he believed he had some immunity from a previous infection? Vaccines aren’t the only way to get immunity. 

 
electric Ape said:
Not trying to make this a political issue: I believe getting vaccinated is the best decision a person can make given all the current data but I also believe it’s a personal decision.

But might Rogers have had COVID before? Perhaps he side stepped the reporter’s question implying he believed he had some immunity from a previous infection? Vaccines aren’t the only way to get immunity. 
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You can't be a major figure in the nfl and lie to the press like that about a critical issues...full stop

 
cloppbeast said:
It's one of those things that isn't anybody's business on one hand. Seeing how other unvaccinated players were treated by reporters you can see why he would lie. I don't hold it against him. It's a white lie.
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Agreed.  I would have done the same thing if I were him and didn't want to get vaccinated.  You can see the horrid takes on here of folks angry with him and he obviously didn't want to deal with that nonsense.

 
electric Ape said:
Not trying to make this a political issue: I believe getting vaccinated is the best decision a person can make given all the current data but I also believe it’s a personal decision.

But might Rogers have had COVID before? Perhaps he side stepped the reporter’s question implying he believed he had some immunity from a previous infection? Vaccines aren’t the only way to get immunity. 
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Good chance this is correct.  Why would he get vaccinated if he already had it?

 
 Rodgers would have very close contact with alot of people on this offense.  This might not be done by any stretch

 
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More info here: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32542413/green-bay-packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-tests-positive-covid-19-source-says

"Rodgers petitioned the NFL to have an alternate treatment that he underwent before he returned to the Packers that would allow him to be considered the same as someone who received one of the approved vaccinations, sources told ESPN. After a lengthy back and forth, the league ruled that Rodgers would not get the same consideration and would be considered unvaccinated.

Sources said Rodgers follows masking protocols while interacting with players and coaches inside the team's headquarters at Lambeau Field. However, Rodgers does not wear a mask while in the media auditorium during his weekly and postgame press conferences. The Packers have put other unvaccinated players on Zoom instead of in-person media sessions."

So everyone knew, and Rodgers appears to have broken some of the protocols.

 
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kneeshooter said:
More info here: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32542413/green-bay-packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-tests-positive-covid-19-source-says

"Rodgers petitioned the NFL to have an alternate treatment that he underwent before he returned to the Packers that would allow him to be considered the same as someone who received one of the approved vaccinations, sources told ESPN. After a lengthy back and forth, the league ruled that Rodgers would not get the same consideration and would be considered unvaccinated.

Sources said Rodgers follows masking protocols while interacting with players and coaches inside the team's headquarters at Lambeau Field. However, Rodgers does not wear a mask while in the media auditorium during his weekly and postgame press conferences. The Packers have put other unvaccinated players on Zoom instead of in-person media sessions."
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Interesting.

A-ARon loves stirring the pot :lol:

 
electric Ape said:
Not trying to make this a political issue: I believe getting vaccinated is the best decision a person can make given all the current data but I also believe it’s a personal decision.

But might Rogers have had COVID before? Perhaps he side stepped the reporter’s question implying he believed he had some immunity from a previous infection? Vaccines aren’t the only way to get immunity. 
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It’s an interesting theory, but nope.  He didn’t have COVID before.  

 
kneeshooter said:
More info here: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32542413/green-bay-packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-tests-positive-covid-19-source-says

"Rodgers petitioned the NFL to have an alternate treatment that he underwent before he returned to the Packers that would allow him to be considered the same as someone who received one of the approved vaccinations, sources told ESPN. After a lengthy back and forth, the league ruled that Rodgers would not get the same consideration and would be considered unvaccinated.

Sources said Rodgers follows masking protocols while interacting with players and coaches inside the team's headquarters at Lambeau Field. However, Rodgers does not wear a mask while in the media auditorium during his weekly and postgame press conferences. The Packers have put other unvaccinated players on Zoom instead of in-person media sessions."

So everyone knew, and Rodgers appears to have broken some of the protocols.
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This is 100% accurate and consistent with what I’ve heard.  Really am amazed that the “alternative treatment” angle came out publicly.  Honestly thought it would never see the light of day.   Won’t say anymore because this isn’t the Politics section.

 
yeah as long as he's been following unvacc'd protocols Rodgers is probably fine. Shouldn't really see any discipline by the league now; he might get a fine for violating media protocols but that's pretty much it.

 
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