QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (7 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Seahawks pulled off absolute ingenuity. They traded Geno for draft capital, then signed Darnold before free agency pure strategy . Then they flipped DJ Metcalf for even more assets and brought in Cooper Kupp to fill the gap. Gotta love how they played the market!

And got Milroe with a 3rd-round pick.

Yep - giving them time to develop him and see if his arm / head can catch up with his physical talent for at least 1, and up to (I think) 3 years with Darnold?

And if Darnold stinks, maybe they try again in the 2026 draft whether Milroe is capable of playing ball at the NFL level or not. IIRC they can move off of Darnold affordably.

All of which sure sounds like the sort of plan that the Steelers would have been smart to have followed, to bring this back on topic.

 

[Joe Bryant]

If I were the Vikings' owner, signing Aaron would be a no-brainer he's a proven winner with the experience to back it up. His 2024 stats are right in line with JJ McCarthy’s 2025 projections, and with Minnesota’s offense, he should easily surpass them. It’s all about minimizing risk what if JJ hesitates under pressure or doesn’t live up to expectations? A veteran presence like Aaron eliminates that uncertainty.

Sam Howell as the backup potentially filling in as a starter is not the answer.

I can see why the Vikings wouldn't want him with McCarthy. I think it's the same reason the Jets didn't want him with a rookie defensive minded head coach.

But it's why I think it could work in Pittsburgh. Tomlin is as strong and secure a personality as there is among NFL head coaches. If you're going to bring in an Alpha like Rodgers, you're going to need an Alpha head coach. Tomlin is that.

 

[sm8680]

My reason for being schizophrenic Is due to his injury. Some players recover well and return to full strength, while others experience lingering knee issues that affect mobility and performance. Adrian Peterson suffered a torn meniscus in 2016 and returned within weeks, but Gabe Davis struggled with recovery after his meniscus injury in 2024. The long-term impact depends on factors like age, position, and overall knee health. The Vikings appear to be built to win the Super Bowl.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

My reason for being schizophrenic Is due to his injury.

To be clear, I was not for an instant saying *you* were schizophrenic.

I was saying that the Vikings trading up for JJM and investing in him, prepping him to be the starter, and then bringing in a 41 Y/o ARod would be schizophrenic, meaning a disjointed set of actions that didn’t align.

My sincere apologies if my comment was taken this way. I absolutely did not intend it as such.

 

[sm8680]

HSG I didn't think you where my attempt at humor tends to be lame or fall flat at times.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

For me, it would have depended on the Wilson and Fields plan from last year. I would have signed one of them. More than likely, that is Wilson because you already gave Fields a reason not to sign. That also was something I would not have done. Since the Steelers were winning, I would have stuck with Fields, but you made your call and went with Wilson. I would resign Wilson and use the 21st pick on Dart or Milroe. I like Dart, and I like Milroe in that range. I like the idea of a mobile QB in today's NFL. I like the RPO option, stressing the defense, gaining a one-man advantage at the line of scrimmage, and helping the rushing game for the same reason. There, of course, is a lot I do not know. The salary cap situation affects other contracts for other players' future and present, but I think the Steelers can afford the rookie deal sitting at 21, and Wilson may cost you a 10-15 million range. If both Dart and Milroe are gone, it is Wilson and the rest for 2025. And we draw something new up for 2026, which might have a better class at QB. Should Wilson not want to sign, then you still roll with the draft plan and sign another free agent QB, or roll with the rookie and Rudolph and the rest.

I like Fields much more than Wilson at this point in their careers, so things would have been very different with me from last season. For this post, I'm going to say we would have signed Wilson because I don't think Fields intended to sign with the Steelers, no matter what, and I would have used the 21st overall pick on Dart or Milore. We would have Wilson and (Dart/Milroe)/Rudolph/Thompson as the decision maker going into camp. And since Dart was there, it would be Dart. Going into the draft with Wilson already signed, this would have been my directive. If I'm completely fair, I may have even moved up some to get Dart or Milore. I would not have gone nuts, though, since I figured one of them would have been there, should one of them have gone before 21, then I would have been working the phones to move up and get Dart or Milore. Getting one of them would have been key, though.

Cool. I still would rather have Rodgers but I can see the logic in your plan there.

If all of that failed and I still had a job, we would be in a position to draft our future quarterback in 2026 because, worst-case scenario, we lost enough games to have a much higher first-round pick, hopefully a top-5 pick. Of course, I'm most likely fired. The Steelers keep their people around a long time, so maybe I still have a job.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Some players recover well and return to full strength, while others experience lingering knee issues that affect mobility and performance. Adrian Peterson suffered a torn meniscus in 2016 and returned within weeks, but Gabe Davis struggled with recovery after his meniscus injury in 2024. The long-term impact depends on factors like age, position, and overall knee health. The Vikings appear to be built to win the Super Bowl.

Reportedly he’s not only at full strength/100% recovery, but he’s put on weight and is “bigger and stronger” coming into camp this year.

Since he’s more of a pocket passer than an LJax type, I’m not particularly concerned, but it’s a valid point.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

all of that failed and I still had a job, we would be in a position to draft our future quarterback in 2026 because, worst-case scenario, we lost enough games to have a much higher first-round pick, hopefully a top-5 pick. Of course, I'm most likely fired. The Steelers keep their people around a long time, so maybe I still have a job.

Back when I was a PMIII, I’m positive I’ve terminated employees for less. lol

 

[sm8680]

I'm hoping that the Steelers master plan is Mason and that for one season they will be called the Pittsburgh Tankers.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm hoping that the Steelers master plan is Mason and that for one season they will be called the Pittsburgh Tankers.

As a Mason shareholder in one SF league I would love nothing more.

(I’d trade him so fast for anything! )

 

[Chaka]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

Today?

Fire Arthur Smith and hire anyone who has even had dinner with Kevin O'Connell or Ben Johnson.

Hell, anyone who has bussed O'Connell or Johnson's table at Chipotle.

 

[Chaka]

To be fair, Tomlin is also a problem in situations where he doesn't have an elite QB. In that situation he turtles up and seems to insist on a 3 yards and a cloud of dust, mistake free philosophy on offense and letting the defense win games. I think that's an incredibly tough road in today's NFL.

A guy like O'Connell otoh manages to turn a failed QB like Darnold into a near All Pro. If O'Connell had Mason Rudolph I would expect at least eleven wins and a career year. With Tomlin and Smith I expect another "non losing season", at best, and missing the playoffs.

 

[sm8680]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

Today?

Fire Arthur Smith and hire anyone who has even had dinner with Kevin O'Connell or Ben Johnson.

Hell, anyone who has bussed O'Connell or Johnson's table at Chipotle.

You inspired me

The Steelers need to find an offensive coordinator by any means necessary. If I were in charge, I’d be data-mining to uncover the best offensive mind who isn’t already an OC or head coach. Someone with the sharp thinking of Sean McVay, Kevin O’Connell, or Ben Johnson.

As for Matt Canada hmm, let me think about what role he’d be best suited for. Groundskeeper? Concession stand worker? Janitor? I’m sure I’d find a spot for him. That way, I could tell the future offensive coordinator that if he doesn’t work hard, stay innovative, and utilize his coaching staff to succeed, he might one day find himself in a similarly...non-meaningful position.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Yes the recovery timeline was long but the surgery wasn’t very new or particularly groundbreaking

No. Not new or groundbreaking. I don't think anyone suggested it was. But significant enough to end his season in August.

But again hopeful the reports are accurate and he's fully ready to go.

 

[Kuz]

If I were the Vikings' owner, signing Aaron would be a no-brainer he's a proven winner with the experience to back it up. His 2024 stats are right in line with JJ McCarthy’s 2025 projections, and with Minnesota’s offense, he should easily surpass them. It’s all about minimizing risk what if JJ hesitates under pressure or doesn’t live up to expectations? A veteran presence like Aaron eliminates that uncertainty.

Sam Howell as the backup potentially filling in as a starter is not the answer.

Glad you're not the Vikings owner

 

[sm8680]

If I were the Vikings' owner, signing Aaron would be a no-brainer he's a proven winner with the experience to back it up. His 2024 stats are right in line with JJ McCarthy’s 2025 projections, and with Minnesota’s offense, he should easily surpass them. It’s all about minimizing risk what if JJ hesitates under pressure or doesn’t live up to expectations? A veteran presence like Aaron eliminates that uncertainty.

Sam Howell as the backup potentially filling in as a starter is not the answer.

Glad you're not the Vikings owner

That’s the beauty of opinions, Kuz! But if minimizing risk and prioritizing proven talent makes me a bad hypothetical owner, I’ll wear that title proudly.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’ll wear that title proudly.

Hypothetical title.

 

[Chaka]

FWIW if Rodgers signs with the Vikings (or Rams if something happens to Stafford) I would immediately bump him from fringe super-flex QB not worth talking about (from a fantasy perspective, he's great to talk about in general because of his impressive branding) to fringe weekly starter in standard leagues.

Mcvay and O'Connell have absolutely earned the benefit of doubt when it comes to QBs.

 

[sm8680]

I get it
Rodgers' time with the Packers makes him a tough fit for the Vikings, who are focused on developing J.J. McCarthy. Some believe his best years are behind him, and his outspoken personality raises concerns about team chemistry. While he’s still talented, many teams are looking to younger players for the future. cough cough Except the Steelers

His legacy is undeniable, but not every team is eager to bring him in. Too bad Aaron Rodgers isn’t also a field goal kicker then he could pull a George Blanda and keep playing until he’s nearly 50!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

impressive branding

outspoken personality

Holy euphemisms, Batman!

 

[Chaka]

I get it
Rodgers' time with the Packers makes him a tough fit for the Vikings, who are focused on developing J.J. McCarthy. Some believe his best years are behind him, and his outspoken personality raises concerns about team chemistry. While he’s still talented, many teams are looking to younger players for the future. cough cough Except the Steelers

His legacy is undeniable, but not every team is eager to bring him in. Too bad Aaron Rodgers isn’t also a field goal kicker then he could pull a George Blanda and keep playing until he’s nearly 50!

I agree but, personally, from a pure "squaring a circle" perspective, I would love to see him follow the Favre blueprint to its inevitable conclusion.

Two great but, IMO very overrated QBs. Favre more so than Rodgers but both, again IMO, have reputations that far exceed their realities.

 

[Chaka]

impressive branding

outspoken personality

Holy euphemisms, Batman!

See??!?! It's not so hard to keep a thread on track.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Mcvay and O'Connell have absolutely earned the benefit of doubt when it comes to QBs.

O’Connell, absolutely.

McVay had some very talented QBs to work with in Goff & Stafford. I guess he was a big part of Cousins success, and I have no doubt he got a lot out of Goff & Stanford - but those guys weren’t slouches.

So yeah, both have earned respect, KOC gets more benefit of the doubt. But I’m just splitting hairs here out of boredom.

 

[Chaka]

Mcvay and O'Connell have absolutely earned the benefit of doubt when it comes to QBs.

O’Connell, absolutely.

McVay had some very talented QBs to work with in Goff & Stafford. I guess he was a big part of Cousins success, and I have no doubt he got a lot out of Goff & Stanford - but those guys weren’t slouches.

So yeah, both have earned respect, KOC gets more benefit of the doubt. But I’m just splitting hairs here out of boredom.

Yeah, I agree about the boredom part.

IMO Mcvay is on the very short list of coaches who are arguably the best in the league. O'Connell is close for sure but ATM, I'll take McVay to lead my team and coach my QB.

But, as you said it's off-season, downtime splitting hairs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

IMO Mcvay is on the very short list of coaches who are arguably the best in the league. O'Connell is close for sure but ATM, I'll take McVay to lead my team and coach my QB.

Don’t disagree at all about best coaches list.

I just think KOC has done more with less at QB. That’s what I was responding to, not at all saying McVay isn’t as good or better of a coach.

 

[Tau837]

I know you have been beating the drum for the 8th in passing yards thing.

No drum beating. And it's not really a "thing". It's a key metric many leagues use for scoring in Fantasy Football. I will note his 8th in passing yards whenever the discussion turns to last year shows he's not capable of being productive. Obviously, it took a lot of pass attempts.

If he does wind up with Pittsburgh instead of retiring, predicting his passing attempts is going to be fun.

As so often happens, IMO this thread is mixing discussion of NFL QB play and fantasy QB play.

Total passing yards matter a lot in fantasy play, but I don't believe the total passing yards Rodgers had with the Jets in 2024 is at all predictive of the total passing yards he could have with another team in 2025. So I'm skeptical this metric matters at all for discussion of Rodgers' potential 2025 fantasy performance.

And, certainly, his total passing yards in 2024 is not a metric that is helpful in quantifying the quality of his NFL QB play in 2024, much less 2025.

 

[Tau837]

So, the Steelers get Aaron and win nine or ten games. Then what? They go to the playoffs and even win a playoff game. Then what? This has to be a Super Bowl win to make the commitment worth it.

You're rolling with a 42-year-old quarterback next season and still not in a position to draft your next quarterback. I do not understand why any team would bring Rodgers in as a starter. You do an injustice to your team and fan base by continuing to bandage the quarterback situation. Rip off the bandage. Take the pain and go get your future, or at least try.

I know because I lived this with the Bengals. Andy Dalton was just good enough not to win it all. This went on for years,

I'd guess they're looking at it from a right now window. Rodgers would likely be a 1 year answer, maybe 2 at most.

But at this point, they're not thinking about theoretical scenarios. They're looking at the season opener 4 months away and thinking about this season.

But yes, that "just barely good enough" QB is a tough spot to be in.

Then we come back to the question, “is this team a quarterback away from winning a Super Bowl”?

I don’t think anyone actually believes that, nor do I believe the Steelers believe that.

So back to that hypothetical, if they win 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, and even win a playoff game, all they’re doing is getting a worse draft pick and kicking the quarterback can down the road for another year.

Is a professional football team truly that much in denial about their current situation? Seems like a horrific approach to teambuilding to me.

Then again, they did just bring in DK Metcalf and pay him a small fortune so I have no idea what the Steelers think they’re doing.

Putting all their eggs into the Aaron Rodgers basket (which comes complete with aforementioned generic off field issues/distractions,that shall not be detailed) is truly baffling. Many sports analysts far more knowledgeable than myself seem very confused by Pittsburgh’s approach to this off-season.

What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?

Just off the top of my head, better option than signing Rodgers for what he will demand in pay, other considerations, and drama: sign Wentz and Bridgewater and let them battle for QB1.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

They moved up to take JJM.

Bringing in ARod and not getting JJM reps is not at all a “no brainer” - they’d be squandering another cheap year of JJM’s deal, and wasting the draft capital they invested in him.

Respectfully disagree with that assertion. It would be a totally schizophrenic move for the Vikings to do this. From everything they’ve said, they’re all-in on JJM.

Also ARod wouldn’t want to be there as a backup, so there’s that.

Good points.

 

[Joe Bryant]

sign Wentz and Bridgewater and let them battle for QB1.

The range of opinions on this one is fascinating.

I can't imagine preferring Carson Wentz and Teddy Bridgewater over Aaron Rodgers. But different opinions make the game interesting.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

Today?

Fire Arthur Smith and hire anyone who has even had dinner with Kevin O'Connell or Ben Johnson.

Hell, anyone who has bussed O'Connell or Johnson's table at Chipotle.

Smith and O'Connell are the same coaching tree. Smith has been a very good OC

 

[FarFromHome]

The window to win in the NFL opens and shuts so quickly. If the window is open slightly you try to bust through it. Steelers have a decent roster. The QB position is the most important. If I'm the owner and I had a young guy or a shot at Rodgers I take the chance on Rodgers no question. Baggage and all. I take a chance, I roll the dice and hope for a shot to make playoffs. If the Steelers take on Rodgers, make the playoffs and even if it's a 2% chance to run the table I take that chance. All my opinion of course.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I think Rodgers was a heck of a QB. Was. Now I don't want him anywhere near my team at age 40. I question his leadership and team cohesion skills. I question his accuracy. I question his health. I question what he would ask the GM/Coach/Owner to do to pacify his wants. If a team thinks AR is getting them over the hump, they are thinking of the 32 year old AR. He's gone.

Mostly agree with this. 2021 was 4 years ago now. Rodgers hasn't been a difference maker since then, and the Steelers have even fewer weapons than the Jets did. This is likely a bottom 5 offense WITH Rodgers, and arguably the worst without. I'd argue Fields>>Wilson>>Rodgers>Rudolph.

Throughout his career, Rodgers has been an elite QB in almost every measure (he's always taken too many sacks) but last year it sure seemed like the deep ball and the overall accuracy just weren't there. He still made good reads and great decisions but would get in trouble trying to make throws he could in 2020, but not in 2024.

Yeah...the one thing I'd point to, and I think because the career path of Rodgers and Favre seem so similar is that Favre in his 4 season prior to joining the Vikings was simply not good (an 88/84 TD:INT ratio and sub 7 YPA).

...and then he had an MVP caliber season. In his age 40 season.

While Rodgers will turn 42 in December, he actually has quite a bit less milage (close to 2000 fewer career passing attempts and 1100 prior to him joining the Vikes) than Favre. And he was returning from a serious injury...you could argue he performed better than Kirk Cousins who was returning from the same thing.

His final 9 games, he produced 193/300 2001 16:4 line. That's solid if unspectacular.

Ultimately, what with the Bears comment over the weekend and quite frankly the lack of compelling event to attach himself to a team on anyones schedule other than his own...it's just a matter of time this gets done and I wouldn't rule him out being an upgrade over what they had in a pretty significant way.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

sign Wentz and Bridgewater and let them battle for QB1.

The range of opinions on this one is fascinating.

I can't imagine preferring Carson Wentz and Teddy Bridgewater over Aaron Rodgers. But different opinions make the game interesting.

Both of these make no sense. You might as well roll with Rodgers out of these three. If the Steelers were to go with Wentz or Bridgewater, to me, that would signal a white flag in 2025, and I would assume the Steelers were in full tank mode. But if that is the case, just roll Will Howard out there and save the money.

 

[Joe Bryant]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

Today?

Fire Arthur Smith and hire anyone who has even had dinner with Kevin O'Connell or Ben Johnson.

Hell, anyone who has bussed O'Connell or Johnson's table at Chipotle.

Smith and O'Connell are the same coaching tree. Smith has been a very good OC

The disrespect for Smith is interesting. His OC work for 2 years with the Titans in 2019 and 2020 was good enough to earn him a head coach job with Atlanta. Clearly, he wasn't good enough as a HC after 3 years but I don't get the disrespect for him as an OC. He's no Andy Reid, but he's had success.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

Today?

Fire Arthur Smith and hire anyone who has even had dinner with Kevin O'Connell or Ben Johnson.

Hell, anyone who has bussed O'Connell or Johnson's table at Chipotle.

Smith and O'Connell are the same coaching tree. Smith has been a very good OC

The disrespect for Smith is interesting. His OC work for 2 years with the Titans in 2019 and 2020 was good enough to earn him a head coach job with Atlanta. Clearly, he wasn't good enough as a HC after 3 years but I don't get the disrespect for him as an OC. He's no Andy Reid, but he's had success.

My guess is that Smith's feelings are coming from burned fantasy managers.

 

[Chaka]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

Today?

Fire Arthur Smith and hire anyone who has even had dinner with Kevin O'Connell or Ben Johnson.

Hell, anyone who has bussed O'Connell or Johnson's table at Chipotle.

Smith and O'Connell are the same coaching tree. Smith has been a very good OC

It looked like Smith was a QB whisperer in Tennessee with tannehill but the shine came off pretty quickly on Atlanta.

Not sure what to think about him at this point. But if he didn't like Russell Wilson calling audibles, as was alleged above, what's he going to do with Aaron Rodgers?

It just seems like a bad fit and I think Rodgers knows it. I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

The Steelers not drafting a 2025 starting QB makes me think no. But I think that's a definite possibility.

- Updated

 

[Chaka]

And for sure, everyone is welcome to reply to the question of, "What would you do at QB if you were handed control of the Steelers today?"

Today?

Fire Arthur Smith and hire anyone who has even had dinner with Kevin O'Connell or Ben Johnson.

Hell, anyone who has bussed O'Connell or Johnson's table at Chipotle.

Smith and O'Connell are the same coaching tree. Smith has been a very good OC

The disrespect for Smith is interesting. His OC work for 2 years with the Titans in 2019 and 2020 was good enough to earn him a head coach job with Atlanta. Clearly, he wasn't good enough as a HC after 3 years but I don't get the disrespect for him as an OC. He's no Andy Reid, but he's had success.

My guess is that Smith's feelings are coming from burned fantasy managers.

And burned Falcons fans.

He didn't have a lot to work with at QB in Atlanta and a rookie Bijan was no Derrick Henry so the picture on him is cloudy.

As a coach I think he deserves a grade of incomplete. But I don't see him restoring his shine with Mason Rudolph and a suspect run game.

I also don't see Aaron Rodgers changing that by much.

IMO they should have taken a chance on a rookie QB.

 

[Chaka]

I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

The Steelers not drafting a QB makes me think no. But I think that's a definite possibility.

The Steelers should definitely be the favorite but the fact that he hasn't signed with them even after they didn't draft a rookie QB is bad optics all around.

The Steelers may be caught flat footed if they're left at the altar. And Rodgers either looks lazy because he doesn't want to participate in OTAs and/or conniving by leaving them hanging for so long.

If I were Rodgers I would be less enthusiastic about the Steelers after they traded Pickens. Dude may have been a head case but paired with DK that would have been a potentially potent WR duo. Now, not so much.

 

[Tau837]

sign Wentz and Bridgewater and let them battle for QB1.

The range of opinions on this one is fascinating.

I can't imagine preferring Carson Wentz and Teddy Bridgewater over Aaron Rodgers. But different opinions make the game interesting.

I think having Rodgers for 2025 does not win a Super Bowl and does not advance the team toward a Super Bowl in 2026 and beyond.

Signing Wentz and Bridgewater would imply spending a lot less cap space, which carries cap into 2026.

And it probably wouldn’t happen but there is a small chance Wentz could regain past form and be solid in 2025. If not, and the Steelers lose more games than they would with Rodgers, better draft picks in 2026.

And it all comes with not kowtowing to a diva QB who comes with a lot of drama.

 

[McBokonon]

I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

The Steelers not drafting a QB makes me think no. But I think that's a definite possibility.

The Steelers drafted a quarterback.

 

[McBokonon]

The Steelers should definitely be the favorite but the fact that he hasn't signed with them even after they didn't draft a rookie QB is bad optics all around.

The Steelers drafted a QB.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

The Steelers not drafting a QB makes me think no. But I think that's a definite possibility.

The Steelers drafted a quarterback.

Sorry. Meant draft a 2025 starting QB. Howard could well be a starter one day. I don't think they have him in the plans as a starter this year. But stranger things have happened.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I can't imagine preferring Carson Wentz and Teddy Bridgewater over Aaron Rodgers

Interesting. I can’t imagine wanting Mr off-field distractions on any professional team in any capacity. I certainly wouldn’t want him around young impressionable players.

He’s demonstrated in numerous ways I won’t detail here that he will always put his own needs ahead of his team, which isn’t exactly a leadership quality. It’s well documented that it rubs people the wrong way both in and out of the NFL.

I wouldn’t hire him as a custodian, much less a QB. But there’s a wide range of opinions about him indeed.

I’m not saying I’d want Wentz or Bridgewater, but I certainly would want Tannehill or Dart, or numerous other options who would put the team first, show up at camp, work hard, and be a leader by example, while also staying out of the limelight / not generating controversy.

You’d mentioned Tomlin as an “alpha” and opined that the fit would work because he could rein in ARod’s personality? Yeah… good luck with that.

Gonna be fun to watch the interactions between Tomlin & ARod after a bad Int, or an improv play that costs them a W. I can see the side-eye look from Tomlin in my mind’s eye already.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If I were Rodgers I would be less enthusiastic about the Steelers after they traded Pickens. Dude may have been a head case but paired with DK that would have been a potentially potent WR duo. Now, not so much.

Are you doubting the great Calvin Austin II & Robert “Bobby Trees” Woods?

 

[Chaka]

I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

The Steelers not drafting a QB makes me think no. But I think that's a definite possibility.

The Steelers drafted a quarterback.

Sorry. Meant draft a 2025 starting QB. Howard could well be a starter one day. I don't think they have him in the plans as a starter this year. But stranger things have happened.

@McBokonon What he said

 

[Joe Bryant]

You’d mentioned Tomlin as an “alpha” and opined that the fit would work because he could rein in ARod’s personality? Yeah… good luck with that.

No, I think for an Alpha like Rodgers it takes an Alpha coach like Tomlin. It won't be "reining in" as much as working with. Something a less secure and established coach would have a tougher time with.

I said it "could" work. Not that it would work. Big difference.

But it's why I think it could work in Pittsburgh. Tomlin is as strong and secure a personality as there is among NFL head coaches. If you're going to bring in an Alpha like Rodgers, you're going to need an Alpha head coach. Tomlin is that.

 

[Chaka]

You’d mentioned Tomlin as an “alpha” and opined that the fit would work because he could rein in ARod’s personality? Yeah… good luck with that.

Gonna be fun to watch the interactions between Tomlin & ARod after a bad Int, or an improv play that costs them a W. I can see the side-eye look from Tomlin in my mind’s eye already.

Tomlin is one of my favorite coaches and he has that reputation with players. But this seems like a terrible fit.

And if Rodgers signs with the Steelers it will absolutely be television.

 

[McBokonon]

I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

The Steelers not drafting a QB makes me think no. But I think that's a definite possibility.

The Steelers drafted a quarterback.

Sorry. Meant draft a 2025 starting QB. Howard could well be a starter one day. I don't think they have him in the plans as a starter this year. But stranger things have happened.

@McBokonon What he said

Ok. Using adjectives and clarifiers in those posts would have been helpful.

 

[Chaka]

I wouldn't be surprised if he semi retires and waits for an injury on a contending team.

The Steelers not drafting a QB makes me think no. But I think that's a definite possibility.

The Steelers drafted a quarterback.

Sorry. Meant draft a 2025 starting QB. Howard could well be a starter one day. I don't think they have him in the plans as a starter this year. But stranger things have happened.

@McBokonon What he said

Ok. Using adjectives and clarifiers in those posts would have been helpful.

Fair. And honestly, I forgot they even drafted Howard. Mostly because I think he's, at best a future Mason Rudolph.