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Might still be better than Stroud for fantasy. He looked like a better fantasy QB than Stroud before he went on IR.Every time I see this topic bumped I’m thinking “please be good news please be good news please be good news”
So glad I took him over Stroud.
Oh I’m still optimistic. But he did get hurt every game. Dude needs to learn that they’re bigger/stronger/faster in the NFL.Might still be better than Stroud for fantasy. He looked like a better fantasy QB than Stroud before he went on IR.Every time I see this topic bumped I’m thinking “please be good news please be good news please be good news”
So glad I took him over Stroud.
Frankly, I'd argue the Colts win the division (probably by multiple games) if he'd have stayed on the field. Steichen worked miracles with Minshew, I feel like he could have done a lot more with an actually talented QB.
Maybe Tua could teach him how to fall....Oh I’m still optimistic. But he did get hurt every game. Dude needs to learn that they’re bigger/stronger/faster in the NFL.Might still be better than Stroud for fantasy. He looked like a better fantasy QB than Stroud before he went on IR.Every time I see this topic bumped I’m thinking “please be good news please be good news please be good news”
So glad I took him over Stroud.
Frankly, I'd argue the Colts win the division (probably by multiple games) if he'd have stayed on the field. Steichen worked miracles with Minshew, I feel like he could have done a lot more with an actually talented QB.
For a whole 5 games if lucky
Injuries are hard to predict. We were saying this about Tua before last season.
Its his style of play , hopefully he learns to slide or run outa bounds . Otherwise hes an elite talent
I’m pretty sure he knows how to do both of those things. Why would you suggest otherwise?
Every young QB shares those concerns. Look at Mac Jones out of a job. 1st round pick. Stayed healthy, too.
I get it, but Mac Jones was never being discussed/drafted as an Elite Fantasy QB. Richardson is being talked about as a top 5 dynasty QB and he is still extremely raw in the passing game. Sure his upside is high but if he doesn't make a MASSIVE jump in passing ability, I don't know how long he's a starter in this league.Every young QB shares those concerns. Look at Mac Jones out of a job. 1st round pick. Stayed healthy, too.
So it’s about fantasy upside related to risk rather than draft capital?I get it, but Mac Jones was never being discussed/drafted as an Elite Fantasy QB. Richardson is being talked about as a top 5 dynasty QB and he is still extremely raw in the passing game. Sure his upside is high but if he doesn't make a MASSIVE jump in passing ability, I don't know how long he's a starter in this league.Every young QB shares those concerns. Look at Mac Jones out of a job. 1st round pick. Stayed healthy, too.
While understanding the NFL isn’t college, programs matter, and growth is key, ARich never looked like a great passer in college. Fields looked highly competent (although with his receivers that was easy to do).
Its more that the Fields situation added a bit more perspective for me. Mainly that Fantasy upside/potential/production doesn't equally translate to NFL potential from a team's perspective. ARich could go on to be the #1 FF QB for the next three seasons and still only be a mediocre NFL QB. Its becoming a league where a QB has to show elite passing skills to get the second contract.So it’s about fantasy upside related to risk rather than draft capital?I get it, but Mac Jones was never being discussed/drafted as an Elite Fantasy QB. Richardson is being talked about as a top 5 dynasty QB and he is still extremely raw in the passing game. Sure his upside is high but if he doesn't make a MASSIVE jump in passing ability, I don't know how long he's a starter in this league.Every young QB shares those concerns. Look at Mac Jones out of a job. 1st round pick. Stayed healthy, too.
Huh. I’d always believed it was in related to where a player was drafted.
With Fields, he was a 1st round pick, so people believed he’d get a lot of leeway/time to develop as compared to someone like Howell, who as a 5th round pick might be lucky to get another chance just to start a game in SEA.
I’m not sure we’ve seen enough of ARich’s passing ability to even make the judgement that he needs to take a “massive jump in passing ability” - he looked like a really good passer from game 1. So that seems like it’s a bit off in terms of risk with ARich.
IMO it’s all about health with him. He’s already ahead of where Fields was as a passer at this stage of their careers.
Oh sure - I am saying the same.
I’m not saying he is a better passer. But if he’s the same level of passer in his 1st year than Fields was in his 3rd (4th?) then I’m less concerned about his ability to develop further.Its more that the Fields situation added a bit more perspective for me. Mainly that Fantasy upside/potential/production doesn't equally translate to NFL potential from a team's perspective. ARich could go on to be the #1 FF QB for the next three seasons and still only be a mediocre NFL QB. Its becoming a league where a QB has to show elite passing skills to get the second contract.So it’s about fantasy upside related to risk rather than draft capital?I get it, but Mac Jones was never being discussed/drafted as an Elite Fantasy QB. Richardson is being talked about as a top 5 dynasty QB and he is still extremely raw in the passing game. Sure his upside is high but if he doesn't make a MASSIVE jump in passing ability, I don't know how long he's a starter in this league.Every young QB shares those concerns. Look at Mac Jones out of a job. 1st round pick. Stayed healthy, too.
Huh. I’d always believed it was in related to where a player was drafted.
With Fields, he was a 1st round pick, so people believed he’d get a lot of leeway/time to develop as compared to someone like Howell, who as a 5th round pick might be lucky to get another chance just to start a game in SEA.
I’m not sure we’ve seen enough of ARich’s passing ability to even make the judgement that he needs to take a “massive jump in passing ability” - he looked like a really good passer from game 1. So that seems like it’s a bit off in terms of risk with ARich.
IMO it’s all about health with him. He’s already ahead of where Fields was as a passer at this stage of their careers.
Fields and ARich had nearly identical QBR and passer ratings last season. I think ARich has the right team and coaching around him to grow, so I'm hopeful he does. I think ARich's sample size is too small to say he's already a better passer.
That’s exactly my point.
