QB Anthony Richardson, IND (1 Viewer)

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Pete Carroll said this about Richardson and could be a potential landing spot behind Geno Smith
Carroll said his the Seahawks considered selecting Richardson in 2023 if he fell a bit further in the draft

"We considered him," Carroll said. "Shoot, we flew all the way out there to go see him. Not just to see him but to be around him and watch him and how he handled himself, and his program with all the hype that was going.

"We gave him tremendous consideration. He might be the best athlete that's ever been drafted at that position. He's arguably that. So, we had to definitely consider that."

-Maybe someone like that will trade a Day 3 pick for him

There is no doubt AR is a great athlete but was ill equipped to be a NFL starting QB. Being just a mediocre NFL starting QB is far more that just being a great athlete. Back in the day QBs were drafted and groomed for at least 1-2 seasons to learn the NFL game.

That is not the case anymore.

Jordan Love was Aaron Rodgers' backup for three years on the Green Bay Packers. Drafted in 2020, Love spent the 2020, 2021, and 2022 seasons as the backup before Rodgers was traded to the New York Jets and Love took over as the starting quarterback for the 2023 season.

Is that "the past"?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Trey Lance 2.0. Sigh

Waldman was so high on him that I got clouded. Don’t blame him as I think the Colts should have put him on the slow path and things may have been different. Still young enough to turn it around, but the taste in mouth is too pungent for me to care at this point.

Lance and Arich are shaping up to be two giant misses from Waldman. We can't hate on the man too much after being higher than most on Mahomes and LJax. You win some, you lose some!

And Puka, who he wasn’t that high on, but did have juuuuuuust after all the “name receivers” and above “the rest”.

That had me land Puka in the 5th in 2 drafts. So yeah, still a little credit on the +/- scale in my eyes.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Name another NFL QB that asked to come out of a game because they were tired
He taps out

Pete Carroll said this about Richardson and could be a potential landing spot behind Geno Smith
Carroll said his the Seahawks considered selecting Richardson in 2023 if he fell a bit further in the draft

"We considered him," Carroll said. "Shoot, we flew all the way out there to go see him. Not just to see him but to be around him and watch him and how he handled himself, and his program with all the hype that was going.

"We gave him tremendous consideration. He might be the best athlete that's ever been drafted at that position. He's arguably that. So, we had to definitely consider that."

-Maybe someone like that will trade a Day 3 pick for him

There is no doubt AR is a great athlete but was ill equipped to be a NFL starting QB. Being just a mediocre NFL starting QB is far more that just being a great athlete. Back in the day QBs were drafted and groomed for at least 1-2 seasons to learn the NFL game.

That is not the case anymore.

Excellent point
Steve McNair sat for the better part of 2 seasons behind Chris Chandelier and then he was very ready to play in the NFL
Marino carried a clipboard for the first 5-6 weeks of his rookie season even though he was clearly the better QB in camp and preseason

 

[Capella]

Years ago I remember a study showed that the stat most correlated with NFL success was total college starts.

Obviously there are exceptions, but it’s just so hard to out-athlete NFL level defenders without the credible threat of being a passer.

Same issue Trey Lance had. Can’t believe teams ignore this with all their data and resources.

 

[Da Guru]

Pete Carroll said this about Richardson and could be a potential landing spot behind Geno Smith
Carroll said his the Seahawks considered selecting Richardson in 2023 if he fell a bit further in the draft

"We considered him," Carroll said. "Shoot, we flew all the way out there to go see him. Not just to see him but to be around him and watch him and how he handled himself, and his program with all the hype that was going.

"We gave him tremendous consideration. He might be the best athlete that's ever been drafted at that position. He's arguably that. So, we had to definitely consider that."

-Maybe someone like that will trade a Day 3 pick for him

There is no doubt AR is a great athlete but was ill equipped to be a NFL starting QB. Being just a mediocre NFL starting QB is far more that just being a great athlete. Back in the day QBs were drafted and groomed for at least 1-2 seasons to learn the NFL game.

That is not the case anymore.

Jordan Love was Aaron Rodgers' backup for three years on the Green Bay Packers. Drafted in 2020, Love spent the 2020, 2021, and 2022 seasons as the backup before Rodgers was traded to the New York Jets and Love took over as the starting quarterback for the 2023 season.

Is that "the past"?

There are exceptions. Love was backing up a future HOF QB in his prime. That is a little different.

Love might have had the same fate as AR had he been put in right away as he did not show much when he played his first couple years. Most GB fans though he would be a bust.

 

[Todem]

When Daniel Jones loses to Miami at home to open the season, reality will set in on what they can accomplish this year at the Qb position
They get Denver the following week at home, could lose both games at home to open their season

Richardson was almost never gonna make it, the fantasy community wanted to see run for1,500 yds and whatever he threw on top was gravy to them
The NFL is not fantasy and the reality of his limitations from the moment he was drafted were very apparent.

Maybe he can land elsewhere and actually gain some playing time, he's not going to get it right now from the team that drafted him 4th overall just 2 years ago
Would you trade ARich for a 4th or 5th round pick right now?

Ha that is no guaranteed win for Miami...come on MOP what are you watching. It's a pick em game.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

When Daniel Jones loses to Miami at home to open the season, reality will set in on what they can accomplish this year at the Qb position
They get Denver the following week at home, could lose both games at home to open their season

Richardson was almost never gonna make it, the fantasy community wanted to see run for1,500 yds and whatever he threw on top was gravy to them
The NFL is not fantasy and the reality of his limitations from the moment he was drafted were very apparent.

Maybe he can land elsewhere and actually gain some playing time, he's not going to get it right now from the team that drafted him 4th overall just 2 years ago
Would you trade ARich for a 4th or 5th round pick right now?

Ha that is no guaranteed win for Miami...come on MOP what are you watching. It's a pick em game.

Good to see you

 

[Terpman22]

Didn't make the cut for some free agent drafts.

Value vanishing by the day...

 

[menobrown]

Didn't make the cut for some free agent drafts.

Value vanishing by the day...

True but I'm holding because of this reminder from last year how quickly things, and Stiechen, can change:

https://x.com/RomeovilleKid/status/1959004389214949731

 

[Faust]

Did the Colts Fail Anthony Richardson, or Did Anthony Richardson Fail the Colts?

 

[Faust]

GM Chris Ballard: Colts won't trade Anthony Richardson despite interest from other teams

 

[kface]

With Chris Godwin coming off PUP going to have to drop Richardson in dynasty

I feel somewhat comfortable with it but questions remain

 

[Faust]

Colts' Shane Steichen on using QB Anthony Richardson in short-yardage, red-zone packages: 'We'll see'

 

[zeeshan2]

[Fowler] Anthony Richardson’s agent Deiric Jackson met in-person with #Colts GM Chris Ballard to discuss Richardson’s future. A trade was not requested - but the topic was discussed.

The Anthony Richardson situation is one I will watch closely throughout the season. Richardson's agent, Deiric Jackson -- who publicly questioned trust in the Colts to our Stephen Holder after Richardson lost the QB battle to Jones -- met in person last week with Colts general manager Chris Ballard to clear the air. Jackson called the meeting "very constructive," and just a chance for sides to "let feelings be known." Though a trade was not requested, the topic was broached in this meeting. Ballard reinforced that Indy has no plans to trade Richardson and still believes in the quarterback.

Richardson isn't making any waves -- he will remain professional, backing up Jones and maintaining his readiness. But part of his camp's frustration is that all parties acknowledge patience would be required when Richardson was drafted. He entered the league with one year as a full-time high school starter and one year as a starter at Florida. He has admitted publicly that his leadership and maturity were not up to par in 2024, which contributed to his in-season benching. But despite that, Richardson is 8-7 as an NFL starter, including two fourth-quarter comebacks late last season. He also worked on improving his regimen, leadership, mechanics, diet and ability to layer short-to-intermediate throws, resulting in improvement in camp that ultimately wasn't enough to win the job. But the Colts know Richardson has a chance to play this season. This situation feels far from settled -- and raises questions about how franchises fail young quarterbacks along the way.

 

[Joe Schmo]

One year as a starter in high school, one year as a starter in college, bad mechanics, inaccurate throws, but can run like a gazelle. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success as an NFL qb.

 

[zamboni]

One year as a starter in high school, one year as a starter in college, bad mechanics, inaccurate throws, but can run like a gazelle. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success as an NFL qb.

Not too unlike Trey Lance 2.0