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QB Blaine Gabbert to enter the NFL Draft (1 Viewer)

Cecil Lammey

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quick thoughts...

size, escapability, strong leader

not afraid to challenge a defense deep

shows great accuracy

followed up a strong sophomore season with a somewhat disappointing junior year (16 TDs this year, 24 last year)

some see him as a first-round pick...I believe he'll go no later than the second-round.

 
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With the number of QB-hungry teams this year, any talented QB that declares will be highly considered. I would guess 4 QBs in the first 1.5 rounds of the draft.

 
With the number of QB-hungry teams this year, any talented QB that declares will be highly considered. I would guess 4 QBs in the first 1.5 rounds of the draft.
We could see Luck, Newton, Mallett, Gabbert, and Locker go before the halfway point in the second-round.
 
Cecil Lammey said:
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/news.php#690057

quick thoughts...

size, escapability, strong leader

not afraid to challenge a defense deep

shows great accuracy

followed up a strong sophomore season with a somewhat disappointing junior year (16 TDs this year, 24 last year)

some see him as a first-round pick...I believe he'll go no later than the second-round.
He didn't look that good against a good Iowa defense. I wouldn't take him in the first 2 rounds.
 
Cecil Lammey said:
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/news.php#690057

quick thoughts...

size, escapability, strong leader

not afraid to challenge a defense deep

shows great accuracy

followed up a strong sophomore season with a somewhat disappointing junior year (16 TDs this year, 24 last year)

some see him as a first-round pick...I believe he'll go no later than the second-round.
He didn't look that good against a good Iowa defense. I wouldn't take him in the first 2 rounds.
Bowl game didn't help but he will test and interview well. QB desperate teams will take a long look at him because of his frame/accuracy.
 
Cecil Lammey said:
fdctrumpet said:
With the number of QB-hungry teams this year, any talented QB that declares will be highly considered. I would guess 4 QBs in the first 1.5 rounds of the draft.
We could see Luck, Newton, Mallett, Gabbert, and Locker go before the halfway point in the second-round.
We could easily see them all go in the 1st, and possibly 4 of them in the top half of the first.
 
The love for Gabbert is really surprising. Other then his physical attributes (which are impressive) what has he shown? I've never been impressed.

 
I like the kid's potential and Arizona is intriguing, I hope he goes somewhere he can sit for a year or two.

 
The love for Gabbert is really surprising. Other then his physical attributes (which are impressive) what has he shown? I've never been impressed.
I was going to post he's the kind of QB Chan Gailey tends to like in terms of size and mobility combination. For your sake, you should hope Chan likes Fitzpatrick. :goodposting:
 
Gabbert is a less effective QB than Daniels was. He may be more physically appealing, but I just don't see him being productive in the NFL. He has accuarcy issues downfield and doesn't make the best decisions. I guess those things can be worked on/coached up, but I just don't trust college QB's from spread style offenses. Their numbers are always padded.

 
He really does remind me of Josh Freeman, and not just because they both de-committed from Nebraska too late in the game for Nebraska to find a replacement (no sour grapes, I swear!). I wasn't impressed with Freeman in college at all, thought he'd be a huge bust in the pros, but obviously, I was wrong. I get the same vibe with Gabbert. A pro QB stuck in a spread system that he never really was meant for.

 
Gabbert is a less effective QB than Daniels was. He may be more physically appealing, but I just don't see him being productive in the NFL. He has accuarcy issues downfield and doesn't make the best decisions. I guess those things can be worked on/coached up, but I just don't trust college QB's from spread style offenses. Their numbers are always padded.
Gabbert does not have half the tools that Daniels had to work with.
 
Cecil Lammey said:
fdctrumpet said:
With the number of QB-hungry teams this year, any talented QB that declares will be highly considered. I would guess 4 QBs in the first 1.5 rounds of the draft.
We could see Luck, Newton, Mallett, Gabbert, and Locker go before the halfway point in the second-round.
Is Locker still that highly regarded? He really looked poorly throwing the ball this season, imo. Cost himself millions too.
 
He really does remind me of Josh Freeman, and not just because they both de-committed from Nebraska too late in the game for Nebraska to find a replacement (no sour grapes, I swear!). I wasn't impressed with Freeman in college at all, thought he'd be a huge bust in the pros, but obviously, I was wrong. I get the same vibe with Gabbert. A pro QB stuck in a spread system that he never really was meant for.
Yeah I need to take a closer look myself, but I'm on the same page as you. He seems very round hole, square peg and I think he could do well in the NFL. I'm not sure I'm as high as say, McShay, but I like the potential. Long way to go in the analysis though.
 
I liked what I saw from Gabbert in the bowl game last week, but the one thing that really stood out to me was how erratic and nervous he got under pressure. All of his plays are out of the shotgun, giving him ample time to survey a defense. I was impressed by his accuracy, arm strength and his overall physical talent, but I think he needs to work on staying poised under pressure. I believe when it's all said and done he'll be a first round QB.

 
I liked what I saw from Gabbert in the bowl game last week, but the one thing that really stood out to me was how erratic and nervous he got under pressure. All of his plays are out of the shotgun, giving him ample time to survey a defense. I was impressed by his accuracy, arm strength and his overall physical talent, but I think he needs to work on staying poised under pressure. I believe when it's all said and done he'll be a first round QB.
Poor guy had to face Suh multiple times, including once that ended with a fairly major ankle injury. He better hope he doesn't end up in the NFC North.
 
Reportedly, Gabbert received a first round grade from the advisory board:

Blaine Gabbert made the right decision by declaring for the NFL draft. ESPN's Scouts, Inc. has Gabbert as the No. 20 overall prospect in April's draft, and Gabbert received a first-round grade from the NFL draft advisory committee after he submitted his paperwork.
That's from a blog post by Big 12 ESPN blogger David Ubben.
 
The thing I always noticed about him was how fast he was. Reminded me of Matt Jones a bit when he ran.

 
mcintyre1 said:
Reportedly, Gabbert received a first round grade from the advisory board:

Blaine Gabbert made the right decision by declaring for the NFL draft. ESPN's Scouts, Inc. has Gabbert as the No. 20 overall prospect in April's draft, and Gabbert received a first-round grade from the NFL draft advisory committee after he submitted his paperwork.
That's from a blog post by Big 12 ESPN blogger David Ubben.
He won't be 20 once all the underclassmen declare.I don't know,it seems really high to me?
 
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/news.php#690057

quick thoughts...

size, escapability, strong leader

not afraid to challenge a defense deep

shows great accuracy

followed up a strong sophomore season with a somewhat disappointing junior year (16 TDs this year, 24 last year)

some see him as a first-round pick...I believe he'll go no later than the second-round.
He didn't look that good against a good Iowa defense. I wouldn't take him in the first 2 rounds.
:rant: Someone must have only watched the last 6 minutes...ETA: Fanhouse has him as the 5th QB off the board to MIA at 15. http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2011/01/03/2011-nf...th-andrew-luck/

 
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I liked what I saw from Gabbert in the bowl game last week, but the one thing that really stood out to me was how erratic and nervous he got under pressure. All of his plays are out of the shotgun, giving him ample time to survey a defense. I was impressed by his accuracy, arm strength and his overall physical talent, but I think he needs to work on staying poised under pressure. I believe when it's all said and done he'll be a first round QB.
Excellent postI just watched Gabbert a couple of times over the past two weeks and what he needs to work on the most is his ability to maneuver pressure. He doesn't make tight, controlled sidesteps or climbs in the pocket as often as he could. Instead he take off on a scramble to the right or the left so wide that he ruins his pass protection and invites even more pressure than he originally had. That said, I agree with Davlar that Gabbert is a high-round talent. He does an excellent job of setting his feet under him to deliver accurate, high-velocity passes. He has the confidence to throw the ball into tight windows and sometimes that confidence turns into an aggressiveness that needs to be kept in check a little bit. However, the flashes of pinpoint accuracy, mobility and willingness to take a hit to make a play down field is very good. He also played most of last year on a high ankle sprain. I also liked his ability to read blitzes and make quick decisions against teams that often dropped nine players into coverage. He has the skills and I think the mindset to become a good starting QB. My initial impression after watching a lot of Newton and Mallett is that he's up there. I can understand why McShay has him going that high, but its more due to need and fit than it has to do with him being unbelievably more talented than the guys I just mentioned. Whether he succeeds at that spot and proves someone like McShay right is a long way off. I think he's a low-first round talent based on the QBs I've seen this year.
 
I liked what I saw from Gabbert in the bowl game last week, but the one thing that really stood out to me was how erratic and nervous he got under pressure. All of his plays are out of the shotgun, giving him ample time to survey a defense. I was impressed by his accuracy, arm strength and his overall physical talent, but I think he needs to work on staying poised under pressure. I believe when it's all said and done he'll be a first round QB.
Excellent postI just watched Gabbert a couple of times over the past two weeks and what he needs to work on the most is his ability to maneuver pressure. He doesn't make tight, controlled sidesteps or climbs in the pocket as often as he could. Instead he take off on a scramble to the right or the left so wide that he ruins his pass protection and invites even more pressure than he originally had. I think he's a low-first round talent based on the QBs I've seen this year.
I think most who have seen him play would agree he is a first-round talent (and was graded as such by those who know), but the litany of QB-starved teams makes his dropping to the late 1st unlikely... especially now that Luck has decided to stay in school. Though if he does, I'm not sure if any ofo the 2010 playoff teams would even be in the market pushing him to an early 2nd. Your assessment of his maddening continuance to scramble so far right/left is spot on, though I don't think it is of his own doing. It happens every single time the pocket collapses in the middle and seems to be a designed outcome per Yost. I have watched two years of such plays and every single time I see it become frustrated with the inability to just sidestep the pressure yet stay composed in the pocket.
 
He's going in the first. Four QBs are. And of the four, only Ryan Mallet is worth a first round pick, IMO. Locker, Gabbert, and Newton are all more project then polished in my view.

 
I liked what I saw from Gabbert in the bowl game last week, but the one thing that really stood out to me was how erratic and nervous he got under pressure. All of his plays are out of the shotgun, giving him ample time to survey a defense. I was impressed by his accuracy, arm strength and his overall physical talent, but I think he needs to work on staying poised under pressure. I believe when it's all said and done he'll be a first round QB.
Excellent postI just watched Gabbert a couple of times over the past two weeks and what he needs to work on the most is his ability to maneuver pressure. He doesn't make tight, controlled sidesteps or climbs in the pocket as often as he could. Instead he take off on a scramble to the right or the left so wide that he ruins his pass protection and invites even more pressure than he originally had. I think he's a low-first round talent based on the QBs I've seen this year.
I think most who have seen him play would agree he is a first-round talent (and was graded as such by those who know), but the litany of QB-starved teams makes his dropping to the late 1st unlikely... especially now that Luck has decided to stay in school. Though if he does, I'm not sure if any ofo the 2010 playoff teams would even be in the market pushing him to an early 2nd. Your assessment of his maddening continuance to scramble so far right/left is spot on, though I don't think it is of his own doing. It happens every single time the pocket collapses in the middle and seems to be a designed outcome per Yost. I have watched two years of such plays and every single time I see it become frustrated with the inability to just sidestep the pressure yet stay composed in the pocket.
Yeah, I'm not one to predict round spots - not my game really. Just where I would pick him if I had a choice. As far as scrambling, I can see that. Although against Illinois to start the year he had some maddening scrambles where he had a lot more time but just saw some white of the jersey flash before his eyes from a distance (and still not coming off a block) and it sent him running. Matt Ryan did that a lot last year with Atlanta and incurred a lot of sacks from his own doing. It's a common ailment with young QBs that have some mobility. If he can just tighten up that movement, I think he can do well. I like his aggressiveness, he just needs to gain a bit more maturity to control that too.
 
He's going in the first. Four QBs are. And of the four, only Ryan Mallet is worth a first round pick, IMO. Locker, Gabbert, and Newton are all more project then polished in my view.
You like Mallett that much? What about him versus Gabbert do you like?
 
Hipple said:
I watched missouri a few games and they were OK but I didn't leave thinking WOW that guy is a stud in the making...This has Akili Smith written all over it. Bengals are picking early and do need a qb...
Like I said before, I haven't done extensive research. But it just feels that way. Call it a hunch. There's always a bunch of players who were semi-productive, kill it in a few combines and all of a sudden rocket up the draft board due to 'measurables' (in this case size mainly it seems). The above comments about him being in a system that was not suited to his skill-set is interesting, and may temper the 'akiliness'. Time will tell.
 
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Reportedly, Gabbert received a first round grade from the advisory board:

Blaine Gabbert made the right decision by declaring for the NFL draft. ESPN's Scouts, Inc. has Gabbert as the No. 20 overall prospect in April's draft, and Gabbert received a first-round grade from the NFL draft advisory committee after he submitted his paperwork.
That's from a blog post by Big 12 ESPN blogger David Ubben.
IMO, the advisory board is a joke. They typically give about 40-50 guys first round grades. Pretty crazy since there's only 32 first round picks.The guy has tools, but I'm really not convinced that he can read a defense at an NFL level or make the game slow down for himself. I really don't think that there is a single first round QB in this draft, even though several will go there anyway. One or more may even pan out, but all of them have some pretty big flaws at the moment.
 

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