QB Brock Purdy, SF (3 Viewers)

[jobarules]

I remember people used to call him a checkdown artist. Guy loves to sling it downfield. Hes way better than Jimmy G ever was. Yeah the INTs suck but I am willing to chalk them up as rust. Looking at the QB play in this league, I think hes a top 10 guy.

 

[Kiddnets]

I remember people used to call him a checkdown artist. Guy loves to sling it downfield. Hes way better than Jimmy G ever was. Yeah the INTs suck but I am willing to chalk them up as rust. Looking at the QB play in this league, I think hes a top 10 guy.

Im very high on Purdy down the stretch with that schedule - looked awful last pm but may still be a bit hobbled and rusty. Need to rebound next game badly - dont want the chatter to grow on the bye week

 

[FarFromHome]

Im very high on Purdy down the stretch with that schedule -

I actually think that schedule is bad.

Cleveland. Yuck
Bye. Yuck
Titans. Game flow could hurt. Yuck
Colts. This could be decent
Bears. The one really good matchup

 

[Terpman22]

The same reasons this guy went undrafted are the same reasons he is having INT problems now.

Good player, physically limited IMO.

Great brain for the most part

Mac Jones and Purdy splits are really interesting

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Id be putting Mac back in. Brock ain;t it, as I've always maintained.

Once CMC is gone, whoever is the QB will be thoroughly exposed.

I, too, sometimes wildly overreact to a very small sample size, entirely disregarding the larger body of evidence.

For this my colleagues admire and respect me, said no one ever.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The same reasons this guy went undrafted are the same reasons he is having INT problems now.

Good player, physically limited IMO.

Great brain for the most part

Mac Jones and Purdy splits are really interesting

His physical ability is his best attribute. he’s a good scrambler and can improvise in the pocket to buy time for receivers.

Weird take.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Kurt Warner
I have talked often about my INTs and I feel like #BrockPurdy plays a lot like me… He is mostly really good & makes a lot of big time throws, but it seems like every miss (which usually is a couple a game - which is actually very good) is an INT & the D rarely seems to drop any of his bad balls (unlike a lot of other guys)!

Working Theory: I def think there is something to guys who throw with more touch/less velocity have higher completion rates but also higher INT rates bc their passes are easier to catch for their guys and others!!

Thoughts?

https://x.com/kurt13warner/status/1993181710465589518?s=61

The answer is:

All Purdy and Jones have is Jauam Jennings, who lacks the speed of any GSOT WR. And also does not have the arm strength.

Matt Stafford has thrown more career yards - almost twice as many as Warner has - and now is at 30 TDs to 2 INts this season. Drake Maye this season is at 21 TDs to 6 INTs. Daniel Jones is at 17-7.

Purdy throwing 7 INTs in four games is like Jamies Winston chucking the rock through four games. Even worse when his INT ratio is carrying over from his last 3-4 starts of last season. It's backup level QB playing. where Winston can throw a 3 TD game in his four starts without an INT against AZ, or throw 3 INTs against CAR and still win, because the other QB threw one or two picks against it.

Is it weird that the biggest 49ers hater on this forum is allegedly a 49ers fan?

Because that seems weird.

 

[thecatch]

Kurt Warner
I have talked often about my INTs and I feel like #BrockPurdy plays a lot like me… He is mostly really good & makes a lot of big time throws, but it seems like every miss (which usually is a couple a game - which is actually very good) is an INT & the D rarely seems to drop any of his bad balls (unlike a lot of other guys)!

Working Theory: I def think there is something to guys who throw with more touch/less velocity have higher completion rates but also higher INT rates bc their passes are easier to catch for their guys and others!!

Thoughts?

https://x.com/kurt13warner/status/1993181710465589518?s=61

I made the inverse of this argument back in the Kaepernick days. He'd throw a ball right into a defender's chest with insane velocity and I think it kept his picks lower than they should have been.

 

[thecatch]

The same reasons this guy went undrafted are the same reasons he is having INT problems now.

Good player, physically limited IMO.

Great brain for the most part

Mac Jones and Purdy splits are really interesting

His physical ability is his best attribute. he’s a good scrambler and can improvise in the pocket to buy time for receivers.

Weird take.

I made the observation to my buddies last night that Purdy's big scramble looked a lot like prime Steve Young. He's got wheels.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I made the observation to my buddies last night that Purdy's big scramble looked a lot like prime Steve Young. He's got wheels.

Young was more lumbering, but yeah - he’s got wheels for sure. More importantly I think is that he has the instincts to know when to use them.

On one of the picks (the 2nd I think?) he ran a couple yards then let it fly. IIRC it was @travdogg who observed that he might have had a 1st had he kept running instead, which I agree with. Other than that he shows pretty good judgement on the timing of his scrambles.

Mac is a sitting duck behind what’s a kind of shaky OL. IMO the picks are indicative of a rusty QB trying to get back in the flow. I have faith that he’ll throw fewer of those as he gets more reps.

 

[Wingnut]

Is it weird that the biggest 49ers hater on this forum is allegedly a 49ers fan?

You just now realizing this? It is really bizarre though. It's best to just scroll past the drivel.

 

[Judge Smails]

He's terrible. Wildy overpaid. Ball just floats. As a Rams fan I'm glad he's their franchise QB. They'd be better off with Jones.

 

[Tau837]

I made the observation to my buddies last night that Purdy's big scramble looked a lot like prime Steve Young. He's got wheels.

Young was more lumbering, but yeah - he’s got wheels for sure. More importantly I think is that he has the instincts to know when to use them.

On one of the picks (the 2nd I think?) he ran a couple yards then let it fly. IIRC it was @travdogg who observed that he might have had a 1st had he kept running instead, which I agree with. Other than that he shows pretty good judgement on the timing of his scrambles.

Mac is a sitting duck behind what’s a kind of shaky OL. IMO the picks are indicative of a rusty QB trying to get back in the flow. I have faith that he’ll throw fewer of those as he gets more reps.

First time I've ever heard 'lumbering' to describe Young. I don't agree with that characterization.

As for Purdy's mobility, per PFF, among QBs with at least 100 dropbacks this season, Purdy has the lowest pressure to sack ratio among all of them. That supports your point, though it isn't just about scrambling but also about moving around in and out of the pocket, getting rid of the ball effectively, etc.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

First time I've ever heard 'lumbering' to describe Young. I don't agree with that characterization.

You don’t think he was lumbering on this totally famous 49 yard run where he literally belly flopped into the end zone?
Cmon. It’s a perfect description. He was much bigger than Purdy and moved with less quickness.

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

though it isn't just about scrambling but also about moving around in and out of the pocket, getting rid of the ball effectively, etc.

Which I actually said earlier. He buys time for his receivers by sliding around in the pocket.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He's terrible. Wildy overpaid. Ball just floats. As a Rams fan I'm glad he's their franchise QB. They'd be better off with Jones.

Uh huh. Can you find me some quotes from you from last year saying he floats passes? I’d be fascinated to see those since that’s a very recent issue for him.

Mac Jones did a good job, and I think he’s a starter-level talent in the NFL. But Purdy’s better. Jones lacks mobility. These are facts.

 

[tricky92]

Yo, that **** is in slow motion! Haha

This is probably a better representation:

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[Judge Smails]

He's terrible. Wildy overpaid. Ball just floats. As a Rams fan I'm glad he's their franchise QB. They'd be better off with Jones.

Uh huh. Can you find me some quotes from you from last year saying he floats passes? I’d be fascinated to see those since that’s a very recent issue for him.

Mac Jones did a good job, and I think he’s a starter-level talent in the NFL. But Purdy’s better. Jones lacks mobility. These are facts.

I was a fan of his when he first came out. Looked decisive. Crisp. Command of the offense. He’s not that guy anymore. Started throwing terrible interceptions last year and it’s continued. His ball floats and it’s like he doesn’t see underneath defenders. He’s 100% regressed since his rookie year. Do you deny that?

 

[Tau837]

First time I've ever heard 'lumbering' to describe Young. I don't agree with that characterization.

You don’t think he was lumbering on this totally famous 49 yard run where he literally belly flopped into the end zone?
Cmon. It’s a perfect description. He was much bigger than Purdy and moved with less quickness.

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Young was listed at 6'2" 215 lbs. I believe that. Purdy is listed at 6'1" 220 lbs. I believe that. So I don't agree that Young was "much bigger than Purdy."

Young ran the 40 in 4.55 seconds, compared to Purdy's 4.84. I know that isn't definitive, and I agree that Purdy is more athletic than his RAS score indicates. But I stand by my take that Young was not 'lumbering.'

 

[thecatch]

First time I've ever heard 'lumbering' to describe Young. I don't agree with that characterization.

You don’t think he was lumbering on this totally famous 49 yard run where he literally belly flopped into the end zone?
Cmon. It’s a perfect description. He was much bigger than Purdy and moved with less quickness.

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I have to agree with Tau, Young was very quick in his younger years (better overall athlete than Purdy for sure) and he was almost identical in size.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

First time I've ever heard 'lumbering' to describe Young. I don't agree with that characterization.

You don’t think he was lumbering on this totally famous 49 yard run where he literally belly flopped into the end zone?
Cmon. It’s a perfect description. He was much bigger than Purdy and moved with less quickness.

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Young was listed at 6'2" 215 lbs. I believe that. Purdy is listed at 6'1" 220 lbs. I believe that. So I don't agree that Young was "much bigger than Purdy."

Young ran the 40 in 4.55 seconds, compared to Purdy's 4.84. I know that isn't definitive, and I agree that Purdy is more athletic than his RAS score indicates. But I stand by my take that Young was not 'lumbering.'

Huh, maybe I’m off. I just remember Young running with less grace.

Not a hill I need to die on.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

His ball floats and it’s like he doesn’t see underneath defenders. He’s 100% regressed since his rookie year. Do you deny that?

He looked fine before the injury this year. Balls didn’t start sailing on him until he came back. It’s been what, 3 games? One in which he got hurt again?

I do deny that. I think you’re making a sweeping generalization based on a very small sample size.

You’re not the only one doing it.

 

[MAC_32]

His ball floats and it’s like he doesn’t see underneath defenders. He’s 100% regressed since his rookie year. Do you deny that?

He looked fine before the injury this year. Balls didn’t start sailing on him until he came back. It’s been what, 3 games? On in which he got hurt again?

I do deny that. I think you’re making a sweeping generalization based on a very small sample size.

You’re not the only one doing it.

Correct, he's not healthy, and won't be healthy until sometime this offseason - hopefully. The dynamic being described is why I'm likely starting Mariota over him this weekend. This forecast with his current mechanics are no bueno.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

His ball floats and it’s like he doesn’t see underneath defenders. He’s 100% regressed since his rookie year. Do you deny that?

He looked fine before the injury this year. Balls didn’t start sailing on him until he came back. It’s been what, 3 games? On in which he got hurt again?

I do deny that. I think you’re making a sweeping generalization based on a very small sample size.

You’re not the only one doing it.

Correct, he's not healthy, and won't be healthy until sometime this offseason - hopefully. The dynamic being described is why I'm likely starting Mariota over him this weekend. This forecast with his current mechanics are no bueno.

I dunno, I thought he looked pretty healthy out there. I just think he’s rusty. He’s normally got very good touch. That said, hes also working with not the best receivers.

Imma give it a couple more games before I downgrade him.

If anything this sounds like a great buy-low window. All this demand for Mac & negative spin on Purdy - probably the best value you’ll get on him. Mac probably on another team next year. Trust that Purdy will keep the job.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Ugly matchup on the road this week against a DEF with a nasty pass rush. Bot liking his chances to look much better.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Everytime a player has a bad game a large number of people turn into chicken little. Purdy will be fine.

 

[MAC_32]

His ball floats and it’s like he doesn’t see underneath defenders. He’s 100% regressed since his rookie year. Do you deny that?

He looked fine before the injury this year. Balls didn’t start sailing on him until he came back. It’s been what, 3 games? On in which he got hurt again?

I do deny that. I think you’re making a sweeping generalization based on a very small sample size.

You’re not the only one doing it.

Correct, he's not healthy, and won't be healthy until sometime this offseason - hopefully. The dynamic being described is why I'm likely starting Mariota over him this weekend. This forecast with his current mechanics are no bueno.

I dunno, I thought he looked pretty healthy out there. I just think he’s rusty. He’s normally got very good touch. That said, hes also working with not the best receivers.

Imma give it a couple more games before I downgrade him.

If anything this sounds like a great buy-low window. All this demand for Mac & negative spin on Purdy - probably the best value you’ll get on him. Mac probably on another team next year. Trust that Purdy will keep the job.

The buy low window opens after this weekend, but couldn't disagree more about his health. This is why the ball is sailing on him

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Cleveland. Yuck
Bye. Yuck
Titans. Game flow could hurt. Yuck

We (titans) have no D and we put up 24* on Seattle so...

I might sit him against the Browns but that means I'd be starting Taylor


*didn't see the game so I don't know how, if any, competitive it was.

 

[Buckna]

First time I've ever heard 'lumbering' to describe Young. I don't agree with that characterization.

You don’t think he was lumbering on this totally famous 49 yard run where he literally belly flopped into the end zone?
Cmon. It’s a perfect description. He was much bigger than Purdy and moved with less quickness.

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Young was listed at 6'2" 215 lbs. I believe that. Purdy is listed at 6'1" 220 lbs. I believe that. So I don't agree that Young was "much bigger than Purdy."

Young ran the 40 in 4.55 seconds, compared to Purdy's 4.84. I know that isn't definitive, and I agree that Purdy is more athletic than his RAS score indicates. But I stand by my take that Young was not 'lumbering.'

Huh, maybe I’m off. I just remember Young running with less grace.

Not a hill I need to die on.

Might be a relative size thing, Young was 6'2" 35-40 years ago. Lots of big guys back then but they are much bigger on average these days

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

His ball floats and it’s like he doesn’t see underneath defenders. He’s 100% regressed since his rookie year. Do you deny that?

He looked fine before the injury this year. Balls didn’t start sailing on him until he came back. It’s been what, 3 games? On in which he got hurt again?

I do deny that. I think you’re making a sweeping generalization based on a very small sample size.

You’re not the only one doing it.

Correct, he's not healthy, and won't be healthy until sometime this offseason - hopefully. The dynamic being described is why I'm likely starting Mariota over him this weekend. This forecast with his current mechanics are no bueno.

I dunno, I thought he looked pretty healthy out there. I just think he’s rusty. He’s normally got very good touch. That said, hes also working with not the best receivers.

Imma give it a couple more games before I downgrade him.

If anything this sounds like a great buy-low window. All this demand for Mac & negative spin on Purdy - probably the best value you’ll get on him. Mac probably on another team next year. Trust that Purdy will keep the job.

The buy low window opens after this weekend, but couldn't disagree more about his health. This is why the ball is sailing on him

He only actually sailed a couple passes. He looked plenty healthy scrambling, so I think you’re way off base here.

His 1st game back when he wasn’t 100% he had zero touch the entire game. He had plenty of touch passes, and accurate passes on the run.

The ball didn’t sail on any of his picks - one was juggled by the receiver, another was thrown into double coverage in the EZ, and the last was when he didn’t see a DB running across the face of his intended receiver.

It’s like we watched 2 different games.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

First time I've ever heard 'lumbering' to describe Young. I don't agree with that characterization.

You don’t think he was lumbering on this totally famous 49 yard run where he literally belly flopped into the end zone?
Cmon. It’s a perfect description. He was much bigger than Purdy and moved with less quickness.

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Young was listed at 6'2" 215 lbs. I believe that. Purdy is listed at 6'1" 220 lbs. I believe that. So I don't agree that Young was "much bigger than Purdy."

Young ran the 40 in 4.55 seconds, compared to Purdy's 4.84. I know that isn't definitive, and I agree that Purdy is more athletic than his RAS score indicates. But I stand by my take that Young was not 'lumbering.'

Huh, maybe I’m off. I just remember Young running with less grace.

Not a hill I need to die on.

Might be a relative size thing, Young was 6'2" 35-40 years ago. Lots of big guys back then but they are much bigger on average these days

Plus I was a kid and everyone seems bigger in my childhood memories.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ugly matchup on the road this week against a DEF with a nasty pass rush. Bot liking his chances to look much better.

CLE Defense is no joke. I’m glad the Browns put their entire offense on paper against the Raiders for Saleh to go to school on. Niners can now prepare for check-downs and wildcat RB.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

they are much bigger on average these days

Speaking of which, Bryce Young looks preposterously tiny out there. I don’t see many Panthers games, but man - smallest guy on the field.

 

[Faust]

Coach Yac
Dan Orlovsky on Brock Purdy’s interceptions:

“Brock Purdy has always been a player that you marveled at how early he threw the football down the field. He has this almost unrealistic anticipation… The interceptions this season are far too often late. The anticipation is gone.”

Dan gives a good breakdown on Brock’s issue and says this is absolutely correctable

via: @PatMcAfeeShow

https://x.com/coach_yac/status/1993496397002285076?s=61

 

[MAC_32]

Ugly matchup on the road this week against a DEF with a nasty pass rush. Bot liking his chances to look much better.

CLE Defense is no joke. I’m glad the Browns put their entire offense on paper against the Raiders for Saleh to go to school on. Niners can now prepare for check-downs and wildcat RB.

I don't think that's the case at all. The Raiders put the Browns in position to run a simple max protect offense in which they pick and chose their spots. Whether this is a good thing or not, there isn't much tape to study. Maybe some tendencies to exploit out of Shedeur, but those aren't new things.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ugly matchup on the road this week against a DEF with a nasty pass rush. Bot liking his chances to look much better.

CLE Defense is no joke. I’m glad the Browns put their entire offense on paper against the Raiders for Saleh to go to school on. Niners can now prepare for check-downs and wildcat RB.

I don't think that's the case at all. The Raiders put the Browns in position to run a simple max protect offense in which they pick and chose their spots. Whether this is a good thing or not, there isn't much tape to study. Maybe some tendencies to exploit out of Shedeur, but those aren't new things.

Then we can agree to disagree. IMO CLE did their best to hide Sanders, who looks extremely limited in what he can do.

If he lights it up against the Niners I’ll be happy to eat crow.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Coach Yac
Dan Orlovsky on Brock Purdy’s interceptions:

“Brock Purdy has always been a player that you marveled at how early he threw the football down the field. He has this almost unrealistic anticipation… The interceptions this season are far too often late. The anticipation is gone.”

Dan gives a good breakdown on Brock’s issue and says this is absolutely correctable

via: @PatMcAfeeShow

https://x.com/coach_yac/status/1993496397002285076?s=61

Yep - agree with this. His timing is off. He had flashes of overcoming it. Dart to Kittle later in the game. You could feel when he was clicking, and you could see when he wasn’t.

 

[Faust]

Kurt Warner
I just watched a QB take 35+ dropbacks & make 3 “mistakes” (1 decision, 1 throw & 1 read) which is almost unheard of at the position & I’m still hearing ppl complain!!!

Take off the blinders ppl, you can’t just look at the couple mistakes, you have to see the whole picture & appreciate when the position is played well, albeit NOT perfect!!

https://x.com/kurt13warner/status/1993362971742130508?s=61

 

[Soulfly3]

Id be putting Mac back in. Brock ain;t it, as I've always maintained.

Once CMC is gone, whoever is the QB will be thoroughly exposed.

I, too, sometimes wildly overreact to a very small sample size, entirely disregarding the larger body of evidence.

For this my colleagues admire and respect me, said no one ever.

Brock is a product of a super stable franchise and a GOAT dual threat RB.
If not for that, he's JJ McCarthy Premium.

I'll stand by that. (ok that was harsh, but I don't think he's anything more than a decent/good QB)