QB Bryce Young, CAR (1 Viewer)

[Dr. Octopus]

That said, a new regime could help. I don't know that I'd expect a career year this year

I think he’s supposed to miss half the season.

 

[BobbyLayne]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

 

[-OZ-]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

That’sa fair point. We should be more anti cardinals than Kyler

 

[BobbyLayne]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

That’sa fair point. We should be more anti cardinals than Kyler

Kyler's almost there

 

[Ilov80s]

Bummer he's not throwing here today

 

[Dr. Octopus]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

and Kyler looks like a ten year old on the field.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think things have changed enough that you have to throw out some of the old mindset towards height but his weight could genuinely be the showstopper. All those guys were over 200 coming out

And/or their body of work prior to the draft made them stand out as outliers who could find success at a smaller size.

Generalizing based on height while disregarding Young’s actual body of work is the disingenuousness on display by the obvious trolling by one dude in this topic.

The fact remains that Young was no taller in college, and played against future NFL players in a tough conference - and had tremendous success. One of the best college careers in recent memory.

The only question is whether that will translate to the NFL. If he can add weight, I’m not sure why it wouldn’t.

 

[Faust]

NFL combine: Despite similar statures, comparing Bryce Young to Kyler Murray is lazy, say NFL Draft evaluators

 

[Faust]

NFL Exec on Bryce Young's Size: 'I'm as Scared as Everybody Else' amid Criticism

Alabama's Bryce Young 'Most Pro-Ready' QB in 2023 NFL Draft Class, GM Says

Bryce Young landing spots: Ranking best fits for top QB prospect in 2023 NFL Draft, including Jets, Bears

 

[Bracie Smathers]

FIRST ROUND MOCK
@firstroundmock

Start mocking Bryce Young to the #Texans - with Houston GM Nick Caserio having roots to Nick Saban by way of Bill Belichick - it’s a done deal - it’s how business is done in the league - just like Mac Jones to New England in 2021. #NFLDraft2023 #NFLDraftNews

 

[Faust]

Nick Saban: Bryce Young Has 'Done It About as Well as Anybody' Despite Size Concerns

 

[Faust]

Bryce Young 'Remains Poised' to Go No. 1 in 2023 NFL Draft, Execs and Evaluators Say

 

[Faust]

Todd McShay: Bryce Young Is a Smaller Patrick Mahomes

Drew Brees shares his biggest concern about Bryce Young

 

[massraider]

Todd McShay: Bryce Young Is a Smaller Patrick Mahomes

This guy lost his fastball a lot faster than Kiper did, that's a fact

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

and Kyler looks like a ten year old on the field.

Yeah that picture seals it for me.

 

[socrates]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

and Kyler looks like a ten year old on the field.

Yeah that picture seals it for me.

Obviously the size (frame even more than height) is a very legitimate concern with Bryce Young. I almost reluctantly bumped Bryce down recently in my rookie rankings to my QB2 (one spot below Stroud) after what was a very impressive Combine workout for Stroud. However, Young remains the top passer in this class, and by a pretty substantial margin, imo. His poise under pressure truly sets him apart; the Mahomes comparisons are real. Even with all of the rules in place to protect NFL QBs, however, you have to worry how long Young can survive. The photo @massraider posted above with Bryce Young and Kyler Murray standing side-by-side has to give you serious pause.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

and Kyler looks like a ten year old on the field.

Yeah that picture seals it for me.

Obviously the size (frame even more than height) is a very legitimate concern with Bryce Young. I almost reluctantly bumped Bryce down recently in my rookie rankings to my QB2 (one spot below Stroud) after what was a very impressive Combine workout for Stroud. However, Young remains the top passer in this class, and by a pretty substantial margin, imo. His poise under pressure truly sets him apart; the Mahomes comparisons are real. Even with all of the rules in place to protect NFL QBs, however, you have to worry how long Young can survive. The photo @massraider posted above with Bryce Young and Kyler Murray standing side-by-side has to give you serious pause.

I'm curious as to when that pic was taken. Young came into the combine at 5'10 3/8, 205? Murray is 207? This looks like more than 2 lbs apart.

Hmm....at least we know Young is bigger than Mina Kimes.

I will continue to wait until he has a landing spot to make my decision on him - his size wasn't an issue in college playing against mostly NFL sized guys.

 

[massraider]

his size wasn't an issue in college playing against mostly NFL sized guys

Hulk vs Loki

I think you know why I posted this

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think you know why I posted this

You're a big Hulk fan?

 

[socrates]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

and Kyler looks like a ten year old on the field.

Yeah that picture seals it for me.

Obviously the size (frame even more than height) is a very legitimate concern with Bryce Young. I almost reluctantly bumped Bryce down recently in my rookie rankings to my QB2 (one spot below Stroud) after what was a very impressive Combine workout for Stroud. However, Young remains the top passer in this class, and by a pretty substantial margin, imo. His poise under pressure truly sets him apart; the Mahomes comparisons are real. Even with all of the rules in place to protect NFL QBs, however, you have to worry how long Young can survive. The photo @massraider posted above with Bryce Young and Kyler Murray standing side-by-side has to give you serious pause.

I'm curious as to when that pic was taken. Young came into the combine at 5'10 3/8, 205? Murray is 207? This looks like more than 2 lbs apart.

Hmm....at least we know Young is bigger than Mina Kimes.

I will continue to wait until he has a landing spot to make my decision on him - his size wasn't an issue in college playing against mostly NFL sized guys.

Great points. I think the 205 was the consequence of many Taco Bell runs and milkshakes (plus about 10 pounds of rocks in his pockets)! He wore a baggy sweat jacket while attending the Combine for a reason! lol

I am by no means out on Bryce Young; however, Stroud is arguably a safer prospect. Like you, I will save my final analysis for after the Draft. If he stays at 1.01, he will likely move back to my QB1, as well.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

will continue to wait until he has a landing spot to make my decision on him

I wish more people waited. Enormous differences between teams offensive lines and other key factors to be all in or all out on almost any prospect.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

https://twitter.com/CarpentierNFL/status/1632035881342083076?t=WKOZo7nHJL59yvt1BF0W2A&s=19
Kyler/Bryce side by side

can't believe Kyler is that yoked working out in an F- facility

and Kyler looks like a ten year old on the field.

Yeah that picture seals it for me.

Obviously the size (frame even more than height) is a very legitimate concern with Bryce Young. I almost reluctantly bumped Bryce down recently in my rookie rankings to my QB2 (one spot below Stroud) after what was a very impressive Combine workout for Stroud. However, Young remains the top passer in this class, and by a pretty substantial margin, imo. His poise under pressure truly sets him apart; the Mahomes comparisons are real. Even with all of the rules in place to protect NFL QBs, however, you have to worry how long Young can survive. The photo @massraider posted above with Bryce Young and Kyler Murray standing side-by-side has to give you serious pause.

I'm curious as to when that pic was taken. Young came into the combine at 5'10 3/8, 205? Murray is 207? This looks like more than 2 lbs apart.

Hmm....at least we know Young is bigger than Mina Kimes.

I will continue to wait until he has a landing spot to make my decision on him - his size wasn't an issue in college playing against mostly NFL sized guys.

Great points. I think the 205 was the consequence of many Taco Bell runs and milkshakes (plus about 10 pounds of rocks in his pockets)! He wore a baggy sweat jacket while attending the Combine for a reason! lol

I am by no means out on Bryce Young; however, Stroud is arguably a safer prospect. Like you, I will save my final analysis for after the Draft. If he stays at 1.01, he will likely move back to my QB1, as well.

I have stroud as 1.01 & young as 1.02

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

will continue to wait until he has a landing spot to make my decision on him

I wish more people waited. Enormous differences between teams offensive lines and other key factors to be all in or all out on almost any prospect.

Overreaction to underwear Olympics SZN

That said, with the Schefter report of Bears dealing 1.01 to CAR, maybe Young will be behind center soon.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Better than HOU, IIRC

 

[travdogg]

Looks about 5’9” and despite adding weight for combine plays at around 170-175.

Tiny tiny guy.

Better odds of playing an Oompa Loompa in the movies than being a successful NFL QB.

Bust of the century.

Well that’s a bit much.

Did you actually ever see him play in college? There’s quite a body of work that suggests he might be a very good pro QB.

I’m just sayin.

He’s very talented.

Just smaller than any other successful NFL QB in history so will be interesting to see.

Maybe this time it’s different and he’ll start the trend of tiny QBs dominating the NFL.

Before Brees it was unheard of for a 6'0" quarterback to make it in the NFL. First ballot hall of famer.

Russell Wilson was seen as tiny at 5'11". Superbowl champion.

Kyler Murray at 5'10" pushed that envelope further. Offensive rookie of the year.

The trend has started, it's just a question of what is causing it. Were all of those players really outliers? Or do the new NFL rules for quarterbacks make it easier for smaller guys to succeed?

I think things have changed enough that you have to throw out some of the old mindset towards height but his weight could genuinely be the showstopper. All those guys were over 200 coming out.

I think the new rules help a ton. Guys aren't typically getting clobbered like they used to.

I was actually thinking back to Doug Flutie, 5-10 180, and that really good few seasons he had in Buffalo, and going back even further, Jim McMahon, who was 6-1 195, and he had a hell of a time staying healthy, but was a difference making QB for a few years before injuries (cheap shots by GB) finally derailed him. I think in today's rules, they'd have had a much better careers.

I think size never mattered as much as people made it out to, and that a lot of guys who would have been good got passed over when maybe they shouldn't have been. Can't say who for sure, but a lot of possibilities. My point being, I think in today's day and age, teams are much more willing to look outside the box then they used to be.

 

[DocHolliday]

Looks about 5’9” and despite adding weight for combine plays at around 170-175.

Tiny tiny guy.

Better odds of playing an Oompa Loompa in the movies than being a successful NFL QB.

Bust of the century.

Well that’s a bit much.

Did you actually ever see him play in college? There’s quite a body of work that suggests he might be a very good pro QB.

I’m just sayin.

He’s very talented.

Just smaller than any other successful NFL QB in history so will be interesting to see.

Maybe this time it’s different and he’ll start the trend of tiny QBs dominating the NFL.

Before Brees it was unheard of for a 6'0" quarterback to make it in the NFL. First ballot hall of famer.

Russell Wilson was seen as tiny at 5'11". Superbowl champion.

Kyler Murray at 5'10" pushed that envelope further. Offensive rookie of the year.

The trend has started, it's just a question of what is causing it. Were all of those players really outliers? Or do the new NFL rules for quarterbacks make it easier for smaller guys to succeed?

I think things have changed enough that you have to throw out some of the old mindset towards height but his weight could genuinely be the showstopper. All those guys were over 200 coming out.

I think the new rules help a ton. Guys aren't typically getting clobbered like they used to.

I was actually thinking back to Doug Flutie, 5-10 180, and that really good few seasons he had in Buffalo, and going back even further, Jim McMahon, who was 6-1 195, and he had a hell of a time staying healthy, but was a difference making QB for a few years before injuries (cheap shots by GB) finally derailed him. I think in today's rules, they'd have had a much better careers.

I think size never mattered as much as people made it out to, and that a lot of guys who would have been good got passed over when maybe they shouldn't have been. Can't say who for sure, but a lot of possibilities. My point being, I think in today's day and age, teams are much more willing to look outside the box then they used to be.

Lots of great points. I still have my doubts about Young though. It isn’t the height. He is so skinny. He needs to bulk up quickly if he wants to have any of chance of making it halfway through a season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Lots of great points. I still have my doubts about Young though. It isn’t the height. He is so skinny. He needs to bulk up quickly if he wants to have any of chance of making it halfway through a season.

Here’s hoping he does nothing but eat & lift for a few months.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Panthers QB coach Josh McNown scouting Bryce Young -well this is timely.

 

[Faust]

OHIO STATE QB C.J. STROUD IS NO. 1 PROSPECT ON CHRIS SIMMS’ 2023 NFL DRAFT QUARTERBACK RANKINGS, AVAILABLE NOW ON “CHRIS SIMMS UNBUTTONED” PODCAST

Excerpt:

No. 2: Bryce Young, Alabama

“The natural, that’s what he is. He’s as natural at playing the position as you’re going to see. He makes so many great quarterback plays. Just like C.J. Stroud, the brain is on another level. The ability to read defenses, see the field, throw the appropriate throw…For a guy that’s a college quarterback, he’s as slick as you’re going to see. What I mean by that, you might not see a ton of wow, oh my goshthrows from Bryce Young, but you see a lot of wow, oh my gosh releases and stuff like that…His ability to throw slants and screens, he can be like (Patrick) Mahomes where he can just flick it out or Aaron Rodgers where you’re just like, ‘Woah, was that out quick.’ The ability to move in the pocket and buy time, bounce around, make people miss, and then have this incredible patience…There’s really so many good things to talk about. He’s a very good athlete, he’s a great decision-maker, he’s aggressive – but not as aggressive as C.J. Stroud – and he can make some wow, highlight-type plays. But he’s No. 2 because of his size and his arm is good but it’s not on the same level as C.J. Stroud.”

 

[Faust]

Panthers' Frank Reich Rejects 'Big Quarterbacks' Label Amid Bryce Young Draft

 

[massraider]

OHIO STATE QB C.J. STROUD IS NO. 1 PROSPECT ON CHRIS SIMMS’ 2023 NFL DRAFT QUARTERBACK RANKINGS, AVAILABLE NOW ON “CHRIS SIMMS UNBUTTONED” PODCAST

Excerpt:

No. 2: Bryce Young, Alabama

“The natural, that’s what he is. He’s as natural at playing the position as you’re going to see. He makes so many great quarterback plays. Just like C.J. Stroud, the brain is on another level. The ability to read defenses, see the field, throw the appropriate throw…For a guy that’s a college quarterback, he’s as slick as you’re going to see. What I mean by that, you might not see a ton of wow, oh my goshthrows from Bryce Young, but you see a lot of wow, oh my gosh releases and stuff like that…His ability to throw slants and screens, he can be like (Patrick) Mahomes where he can just flick it out or Aaron Rodgers where you’re just like, ‘Woah, was that out quick.’ The ability to move in the pocket and buy time, bounce around, make people miss, and then have this incredible patience…There’s really so many good things to talk about. He’s a very good athlete, he’s a great decision-maker, he’s aggressive – but not as aggressive as C.J. Stroud – and he can make some wow, highlight-type plays. But he’s No. 2 because of his size and his arm is good but it’s not on the same level as C.J. Stroud.”

This is the 2nd Alabama QB in a row where I am reading about his ability to see the field, I am not sure if I want to buy it this time.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This is the 2nd Alabama QB in a row where I am reading about his ability to see the field, I am not sure if I want to buy it this time.

you say that like AJ Mcclarin isn’t a complete stud.

More importantly, did you watch young play?

I already had an opinion formed about Stroud & Young before the combine or pro day.

This is the time of year everyone’s gonna say cliche things about them. The one write-up of Young that was interesting to me was the person who said he was “the Steph Curry of football” - undersized, but supersized talent. Though, “the natural” is pretty solid, too, even if the movie is a little overrated.

In the bit you quoted he’s being comped to ARod & Mahomes. I mean, it’s hard to top that.

 

[massraider]

you say that like AJ Mcclarin isn’t a complete stud.

More importantly, did you watch young play?

I cannot help but notice that these otherworldly intangibles about seeing the field, and processing speed, and 'ability to move in the pocket' are like word for word Mac Jones stuff before the draft. It's uncanny. A bunch of stuff that cannot be objectively measured. Alabama has had TWO straight genius savants at seeing the field in a row?

Been a draft junkie for a long time, and while I think it is very nice that someone believes this about a QB, I am not sure this see the field/processing stuff can really be measured quite that easily, and the garbage pail of history is chock full of QBs who BLEW US AWAY ON THE CHALKBOARD.

I am much more interested in quantifiable stuff that separates them from the pack. Good or bad. Anthony Richardson works through his progressions, but his completion percentage was 2nd to last in SEC. Maybe Hendon Hooker is Joe Montana, but we don't know, he's been running the Texas Tech Chuck n Duck down in Tennessee, so we have no idea.

I think we find out about intangibles, and feel, and clutch.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think we find out about intangibles, and feel, and clutch.

I don’t disagree with anything you said.

That said, I don’t recall Mac Jones being talked about with the same platitudes. In fact, I recall people discussing his limited ceiling but high floor. We heard that he was the most NFL-ready QB in the draft, which may have been true.

With Young we hear a lot more about his ceiling than his floor, though you’re right in that some of the cliche statements are tiresome.

And we saw Young processing on the field, which was my point. I don’t need a scouting report to know he processes at a high level.

But I do agree the cliches get old.

 

[massraider]

Taking Bijan at 12 to go with Bryce would be a lovely pairing. Like, which young QB couldn't use Ladainian Tomlinson?

 

[massraider]

Bryce Young did not weigh in this morning at Alabama’s pro day. He’ll stand on his 204 pounds from the Scouting Combine

 

[-OZ-]

you say that like AJ Mcclarin isn’t a complete stud.

More importantly, did you watch young play?

I cannot help but notice that these otherworldly intangibles about seeing the field, and processing speed, and 'ability to move in the pocket' are like word for word Mac Jones stuff before the draft. It's uncanny. A bunch of stuff that cannot be objectively measured. Alabama has had TWO straight genius savants at seeing the field in a row?

Been a draft junkie for a long time, and while I think it is very nice that someone believes this about a QB, I am not sure this see the field/processing stuff can really be measured quite that easily, and the garbage pail of history is chock full of QBs who BLEW US AWAY ON THE CHALKBOARD.

I am much more interested in quantifiable stuff that separates them from the pack. Good or bad. Anthony Richardson works through his progressions, but his completion percentage was 2nd to last in SEC. Maybe Hendon Hooker is Joe Montana, but we don't know, he's been running the Texas Tech Chuck n Duck down in Tennessee, so we have no idea.

I think we find out about intangibles, and feel, and clutch.

The only similarities between Mac and Bryce are school, winning, and seeing the field. Mac was and is very “football smart”, he’s just more limited. I’d love for him to be our QB coach in a few years.
Bryce is better in every other way except height and weight.

 

[-OZ-]

Bryce Young did not weigh in this morning at Alabama’s pro day. He’ll stand on his 204 pounds from the Scouting Combine

As was scripted weeks ago.

 

[Faust]

NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports Alabama QB Bryce Young met with the Raiders and Panthers.​

The Panthers currently sit at the top of the draft. Most pundits expect them to take Ohio State's C.J. Stroud, but they did send their brass to Young's pro day at Alabama. The Raiders, on the other hand, will take the podium at pick No. 7. There's virtually no chance Young is on the board that late, so they would need to trade up if they want him. All signs point to Young landing in Houston with the second pick. As NFL-ready as a quarterback can be, Young will be the centerpiece of the Texans' rebuild.
RELATED:

• Carolina Panthers
• , Las Vegas Raiders

SOURCE: Mike Garafolo on Twitter
Mar 23, 2023 at 12:54 PM ET

 

[IHEARTFF]

Bryce Young did not weigh in this morning at Alabama’s pro day. He’ll stand on his 204 pounds from the Scouting Combine

thats a tiny red flag (insert size joke here)

 

[JohnnyU]

Bryce Young did not weigh in this morning at Alabama’s pro day. He’ll stand on his 204 pounds from the Scouting Combine

thats a tiny red flag (insert size joke here)

For his height he’ll stand on a box during measuring.

 

[Faust]

NFL Rookie Watch @NFLRookieWatxh
Bryce Young putting his arm on FULL display

Young reportedly met with both the Panthers and Raiders last night before Alabama’s Pro Day today.

The next stop for Young is now the NFL Draft.

https://twitter.com/nflrookiewatxh/status/1638973957620760577?s=21

 

[JohnnyU]

I’d rather the Colts take Young over Richardson if they get the chance.

 

[Faust]

Bryce Young Pro Day: Top Highlights, Reaction from Alabama QB's Pre-Draft Workout

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Bryce Young did not weigh in this morning at Alabama’s pro day. He’ll stand on his 204 pounds from the Scouting Combine

thats a tiny red flag (insert size joke here)

For his height he’ll stand on a box during measuring.

I thought were measuring Young in Mina Kimeses.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’d rather the Colts take Young over Richardson if they get the chance.

It’s the smarter pick, IMO.

 

[travdogg]

I’d rather the Colts take Young over Richardson if they get the chance.

It’s the smarter pick, IMO.

I'm still in the boat that thinks Carolina is out of their mind if they take anyone other than Young at #1.

I've also kind of been wondering more and more if the Colts don't take a QB at #4, especially if Will Anderson is still there.

 

[massraider]

Pretty great Bryce Young Video

 

[socrates]

Pretty great Bryce Young Video

Shades of Mahomes. Young has tremendous poise under pressure. I do worry about his small stature, however.

 

[massraider]

Shades of Mahomes. Young has tremendous poise under pressure. I do worry about his small stature, however.

I think just passing skill, putting it on outside shoulder etc., is pretty great. Touch/accuracy, pretty great. A lot of those passes, really not a better spot to put it.

I worry about his size for long term NFL health. But I also worry about his size for fantasy. I don't think you are getting Lamar/Hurts/Fields rushing upside, because of his size, so it has to all come from passing attack. Possible I am wrong, but I am going to assume, until some coach says otherwise, that the plan is not for him to have 10 carries a game. I assume because of his size, those consistent rushing stats won't be there. He's too good an athlete to not have some good rushing days obviously, but most will project significantly less than Hurts, let's say. I could see his fantasy numbers settling into Stafford/Cousins range.

Which might sound like I am down on him, but I actually think he could be best value in 1 QB rookie drafts, as everyone reaches for their favorite outlier at WR/RB.

I am so looking forward to rookie ADP after the draft.