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I can't wait for the Browns official schedule to come out. The NFL Network will be all over their match ups with Tampa, Cincinnati, Buffalo, and Baltimore. Battle of the QBs! Plus their "revenge game" vs. Houston.
I don’t have twitter, and I don’t watch the talking heads because I think most are idiots. As a Saints fan, it was exciting to think there’s a chance he could join the team, but I’m fine with not having him at the cost of those picks plus a salary of that nature at this point. That’s an opinion, not outrage.
My bad I guess. It just seems anyone disagreeing with him getting that contract is being overgeneralized in this "outrage." It's quite an overpay at this point. If that contract is ultimately what it would've taken to get him, the Only thing that would have made this better would have been him actually ending up in Atlanta.
I think the chances of this working out well for CLE are slim. There are a lot of good teams in the AFC with good QBs, and they have their first round picks for the next three years. I think Watson is a creep, in the creepiest sense of the word, and I am relieved he is not on my team. I think CLE ownership is scummy, Jimmy Haslem's company made money by ripping off truck drivers. If anything goes sideways with Watson, that contract is a major problem.
Tony Buzbee reportedly has an estimated net worth of $700 millionffmail4me said:Why should NFL teams trust a sleazy ambulance chasing lawyer who's hoping to get paid?
So:
None of the teams who were in on Watson spoke to the women AND their attorney said he understands why indicating he wouldn't have either.
You're reading that incorrectly. He's saying he doesn't blame them because the teams wouldn't have liked what they heard - he's being snarky. I mean the very next sentence should tell you that. The NFL is not a defendant in those lawsuits so there's no legal reason why they couldn't talk to the NFL - in fact most would likely want to and so would Buzbee.
I think the reason they didn't talk to Buzbee or the women is pretty obvious: it would only make sense to do so if they were going to factor their judgment of Watson's guilt into their calculations. But they clearly weren't doing that. Does anyone really think that the Browns traded for Watson believing he was innocent? To put it another way, if Watson came out tomorrow and tearfully admitted his guilt -- or if one of the women produced a surprise video proving he did exactly what he was accused of -- do you think the Browns would immediately cut him?
Exactly and that's what Buzbee was saying "they didn't want to hear their answers". They just wanted to pretend they investigated.
They investigated the question they wanted to find out, which was, "Will Watson embarrass us further going forward?" His prior behavior was already factored in.
And to be completely honest that’s all they really have to worry about. This will blow over in time - and people can either support the team or not for whatever reasons they want to.
Yep. Eagles fans cheered a puppy killer. Browns fans will be happy to slide right into, "Oh, they thought they was just going there for a massage?? Come on...."
What the #### are you talking about?
I don't think I should even scroll up to find out how we got to this point. Vick served more time than many folks that take peoples lives thru manslaughter and worse. He lost 2 of his best years in the NFL, lost out on millions and millions of dollars, paid his debt to society which is more than many can ever say and he continues to try and make a horrific decision slightly better before he can get off this Earth. Unfortunately there's just no pleasing some folks that have passed judgement on him for all eternity.
-Any chance we can keep this on football?
You didn't write puppy killer or whatever, must have been a typo or maybe my glasses are bad but then again i don't wear glasses and I clearly stated I'm not scrolling up to try and fill in the blanks, you wrote it you own it. And enough of your put downs and slights, everyone can read thru it. Abide by the board rules or take your chances, i don't summon Mods and never have so just get it off your chest vs these little gas leaks you leave at the end of all your posts. My PM is open if you need to discuss it outside or down in the alley friendo.
Yeah, I get there may be people who can never forgive Vick for what he did, but IMO he's the perfect example of someone who paid a steep price for his misdeeds and was able to rebuild his life (Ray Rice is another). Whereas with Watson, he got a year of paid vacation, had teams slathering over him, and was ultimately rewarded with the biggest guaranteed contract in NFL history. Huge difference.
I don't think I should even scroll up to find out how we got to this point. Vick served more time than many folks that take peoples lives thru manslaughter and worse. He lost 2 of his best years in the NFL, lost out on millions and millions of dollars, paid his debt to society which is more than many can ever say and he continues to try and make a horrific decision slightly better before he can get off this Earth. Unfortunately there's just no pleasing some folks that have passed judgement on him for all eternity.
-Any chance we can keep this on football?
Fair to assume that the only reason Vick's name came up was because just like some never forgave him, same will be true of certain Watson detractors and to try and guess the percentage of Browns' female fans that will be uncomfortable rooting for Watson is really just a guess at this point and I would bet money there is still a large number of women in the stands in Cleveland come this September.
He was just using him as an example of fans needing to look past transgressions to support a player when their team signs him.
I think he said he doesn't blame them in that they can claim the plausible deniability that Ignatius was suggesting. Not talking to them allows a team to play both sides. He understands it is a big business, yada yada. And perhaps the next sentence you speak of is more an omen in the sense that this could still blow up in civil court. If it isn't actually likely to do so. And that by extension the Browns may really be shooting themselves in the foot with a losing move.Dr. Octopus said:
Yes that’s the same thing I’m saying. They don’t want to hear what the women say because then they can just ignore it. I think it’s being more snarky than sympathetic- the guy’s a bulldog.
Most people are saying that - the Browns are really only focusing on going forward.
Few days behind on this response. They do a lot of research (or at least one does). I listen to their Small Town Murder episodes weekly (usually just on on 1x) and they are well worth it. Those are also just under three hours. Crime in Sports I really only do when I know the underlying athlete.
I mean, the Original Sin was making Watson the face of their franchise. Everything else just kind of flows from that. So no, I didn't really believe they were going to talk to the women.
My feeling is that there's so much cognitive dissonance around being a football fan these days, I'm not going to judge anyone for their reaction. You want to be out on the NFL, fine. You draw the line at cheering for DeShaun, OK. You want to take the Jerry Seinfeld "just rooting for laundry" approach, that's fine, too. There's no one right answer.
Are they not going to allow the Browns to clear cap space? The NFL stepping in here could potentially ruin the league. 50 lawsuits minimum
They do not have to be mutually exclusive. But they also can be mutually exclusive.
As I keep; saying until I'm blue in the face the Browns did the same thing with Amari's contract. It was to clear space, not shirk suspension cost.
What would be funny is if they said, "You are suspended for 6 weeks worth of your average annual salary's game checks." That'd put him into all 2022 and 5 games into 2023. No, I know guys, they won't do that. But it'd be kinda funny to see the league clap back at the gamesmanship of the contract change Cleveland made.
It's worth remembering, The Browns are the league. The league office carries out directives and enforces rules at the behest of 32 guys, one of whom is Jimmy Haslem, and those owners don't want to throw the book at Deshaun, because in a year or two, one of their players is gonna get caught up in some stupidness, and they don't want their guy to suffer.
IMO Goodell has done a great job of commissioner and introduced a lot of innovative things but his biggest mistake was wanting to be the law and order commissioner. Now more then any league is the scrutiny increased when a player steps outside the lines.
Ah, you flyover state kids are adorable. So sweet.
