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QB Drake Maye, NE (1 Viewer)

cascaa said:
It may be his time. Who would be his favorite receiver from Polk,Douglas Osborn, Boutte, Bourne, Thornton or Baker🤯
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He's had the most work with Polk so that would be my first guess, but I could also see him taking advantage of Douglas' ability to separate in the middle of the field. Bourne is a nice mention as he's proven to be a solid WR for this team when healthy. I still wouldn't be excited about any of these WR's for fantasy this season but if I had to pick one for now I'd say Polk has the most upside.
 
Lansdowne said:
cascaa said:
It may be his time. Who would be his favorite receiver from Polk,Douglas Osborn, Boutte, Bourne, Thornton or Baker🤯
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He's had the most work with Polk so that would be my first guess, but I could also see him taking advantage of Douglas' ability to separate in the middle of the field. Bourne is a nice mention as he's proven to be a solid WR for this team when healthy. I still wouldn't be excited about any of these WR's for fantasy this season but if I had to pick one for now I'd say Polk has the most upside.
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They are shopping Tyquan Thompson,just read
 
cascaa said:
Lansdowne said:
cascaa said:
It may be his time. Who would be his favorite receiver from Polk,Douglas Osborn, Boutte, Bourne, Thornton or Baker🤯
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He's had the most work with Polk so that would be my first guess, but I could also see him taking advantage of Douglas' ability to separate in the middle of the field. Bourne is a nice mention as he's proven to be a solid WR for this team when healthy. I still wouldn't be excited about any of these WR's for fantasy this season but if I had to pick one for now I'd say Polk has the most upside.
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They are shopping Tyquan Thompson,just read
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For what, a one day parking pass?
 
Anarchy99 said:
cascaa said:
Lansdowne said:
cascaa said:
It may be his time. Who would be his favorite receiver from Polk,Douglas Osborn, Boutte, Bourne, Thornton or Baker🤯
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He's had the most work with Polk so that would be my first guess, but I could also see him taking advantage of Douglas' ability to separate in the middle of the field. Bourne is a nice mention as he's proven to be a solid WR for this team when healthy. I still wouldn't be excited about any of these WR's for fantasy this season but if I had to pick one for now I'd say Polk has the most upside.
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They are shopping Tyquan Thompson,just read
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For what, a one day parking pass?
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laughing reaction
 
Anarchy99 said:
cascaa said:
Lansdowne said:
cascaa said:
It may be his time. Who would be his favorite receiver from Polk,Douglas Osborn, Boutte, Bourne, Thornton or Baker🤯
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He's had the most work with Polk so that would be my first guess, but I could also see him taking advantage of Douglas' ability to separate in the middle of the field. Bourne is a nice mention as he's proven to be a solid WR for this team when healthy. I still wouldn't be excited about any of these WR's for fantasy this season but if I had to pick one for now I'd say Polk has the most upside.
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They are shopping Tyquan Thompson,just read
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For what, a one day parking pass?
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:lmao:
 
For all the Patriots fans and coaches saying he needs to sit to protect him, why is he even dressing? Why was he put in the game when Brissett got dinged? Is he going to play at all this season? He's dressing, he's played, he's the #2, and he's expected to take over at some point. There isn't anything meaningful that's going to happen with the team or the offensive line between now and whenever they let him see live bullets flying, so put him in the damned game and get him some experience. SMDH, this franchise is becoming the Patriots I remember pre-1990's.
 
Jacob's Ladder said:
For all the Patriots fans and coaches saying he needs to sit to protect him, why is he even dressing? Why was he put in the game when Brissett got dinged? Is he going to play at all this season? He's dressing, he's played, he's the #2, and he's expected to take over at some point. There isn't anything meaningful that's going to happen with the team or the offensive line between now and whenever they let him see live bullets flying, so put him in the damned game and get him some experience. SMDH, this franchise is becoming the Patriots I remember pre-1990's.
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The way I see it is the team painted itself into a corner by drafting Joe Milton, an even more raw, developmental QB, with the pick they got back for Mac Jones. That ate up a spot that could've been used for a second veteran QB (even one as mediocre as Bailey Zappe) that would've further insulated Drake Maye from starter duty. They're likely hoping Milton develops into something that they can flip to another team down the line for a profit. Cut Milton and you basically gave Jones to the Jaguars for nothing. I don't particularly care about that but it's possible the Patriots front office does, but now they're in the uncomfortable spot of not wanting to subject Maye to a beating but also not having much other choice if Brissett can't handle it.
 
Some people are connecting the dots that Mayo didn't immediately declare Brissett the starter next week, so that means Maye may start as soon as next week. Those people suggesting it will be soon include Schefter and Breer.
 
Also sports talk today suggested NE could use Maye to deflect from their awful performance against the Dolphins and the black mark left from the Peppers debacle.
 
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
How much does Maye starting hurt Stevenson?
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It could stay putrid, but how could it be any worse? I only see potential upside.

Brissett is incapable of sustaining drives. He's a statue back there just waiting to get sacked and hasn't thrown for more than 170 yards in a single game, 5 weeks into the season. He's averaging less than 140 yards passing per game in spite of the team being 1-4. He's been sacked 17 times in 5 games. Teams don't respect his ability to pass, and they certainly don't respect his ability to run. We'll see what Maye can do through the air, but his legs will most certainly add a new dimension to that offense.
 
Maybe they'll just have him work on handoffs with the bullets flying? My expectations are low for the week, but I'm mostly just happy I don't have to add Brissett or Huntley to spot start for Mahomes. Don't get killed and give us one splash play to get excited about.
 
My buddy shared this stat with me:

The Patriots offensive line is allowing the highest pressure rate in the NFL this season at 48.3%, per @NextGenStats. Meanwhile, their Week 6 opponents in the Texans are generating a league-best pressure rate of 42%. DE Danielle Hunter leads the league with 29 pressures.

Maye is gonna get creamed. Dumb move by Mayo IMO. Rather have Bazooka Joe out there.
 
RenegadeRoy said:
My buddy shared this stat with me:

The Patriots offensive line is allowing the highest pressure rate in the NFL this season at 48.3%, per @NextGenStats. Meanwhile, their Week 6 opponents in the Texans are generating a league-best pressure rate of 42%. DE Danielle Hunter leads the league with 29 pressures.

Maye is gonna get creamed. Dumb move by Mayo IMO. Rather have Bazooka Joe out there.
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I think I would avoid this matchup with the star rookie QB.

if he must play, the first matchup should be against a D thats not gonna be in his face every play. Thats not an atmosphere to learn, its just a way to punish whoever is under centre.
 
The good news-it will be exciting to see the young QB...the Pats O is a train wreck and this at least gives Patriot fans something to be excited about...if the Pats are to begin getting out of the hole they are in the biggest reason will be because Maye is the real deal...if he is legit there is a path forward.

The bad news-the Pats franchise is in disarray right now...I don't think non-Patriot fans fully understand the mess they are (and have been the past few years) and don't grasp just how bad the O-line is...Maye is young (just turned 22) and developing and if this ends up being a David Carr situation and Maye gets hurt or his development takes a big step backwards because this is not the situation he should be thrown into it will have a devastating effect on their future.

I do want to see him play this year but I don't agree with the timing of this...the Mayo regime is teetering, and this feels like a reactionary move because of that...I wish there was another veteran QB instead of Brissett to start a few games and wait till about week 11 to hand it over to Maye ...just not sure absorbing the punishment he is about to take and running for his life for the next 11 games is the correct plan for the future...if this backfires both Mayo and Wolf need to be fired ASAP...fingers crossed this is the beginning of a new era.
 
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Plenty on the 53 roster spots have bonus escalators in their contract that they hope to meet. Brissett is likely costing them huge $$$ this year and future contracts in their eyes.
 
Riffraff said:
Plenty on the 53 roster spots have bonus escalators in their contract that they hope to meet. Brissett is likely costing them huge $$$ this year and future contracts in their eyes.
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I haven't seen anyone mention that...got a link to it?
 
Boston said:
I haven't seen anyone mention that...got a link to it?
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I didn't copy from anyone; just common sense.

Spotrac has the contracts (if they were made available). Click on a player and see if there's something in there.
Example:
Hunter Henry: Annual Incentives: $1M (receptions)
Kendrick Bourne: $2.5M of 2025 salary fully guarantees with 800+ receiving yards in 2024

RB Stevenson:
2025-2028 Incentives
Yards from Scrimmage
$600,000 each for 1400, 1500, 1600

Pro Bowl: $600,000
All-Pro Selection: $600,000

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QB / team play can definitely affect the ability to get the incentives on both sides of the ball.
 
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Some snippets from Greg Bedard:

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Despite all that, despite his own struggles while taking another 14 hits in the game, Brissett was able to drive the team in position to win the game before more terrible playcalling and a rookie receiver did not get his second foot down on a potential game-winning touchdown.

Put it to you this way: if Ja'Lynn Polk got his foot down and the Patriots won the game, does anyone think this change would have been made?

Of course not, and I don't really care when the Patriots predictably push against that. This was not part of the famous "plan" for Maye. But this is par for the course so far for the Mayo regime.

Maye has been inserted to distract the masses from the fact that the Patriots have devolved into a mess, it's getting worse by the week and the responsibility for all that falls on the head coach, just like it did Bill Belichick the previous few seasons.

Mayo has spoken often about laying the foundation for his program this season, and lately, as the losses have piled up - one seemingly worse than the last - he's added something along the line of while "taking their lumps."

Five games into his coaching career ... can anyone lay out exactly what the foundation is? What does the program stand for? Not actual words: the product that you see on the field.

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If the Patriots had a head coach and a coaching staff capable of solving problems and finding solutions, the Patriots are now 3-2 and no one is talking about Maye.

But now they're 1-4 and guess who's being inserted into the lineup? I'm sure we'll hear about how Maye is "ready" and this was all part of the plan.

Please, does anyone actually believe that? Let's also mention that Maye's ascension was leaked to the media on a day when most players are off - five weeks after Mayo said it was important for him to announce the season's starting quarterback to the entire team.

"We have decided - or I have decided - that Jacoby Brissett will be our starting quarterback this season," he said at the time.

... unless we're 1-4 and the coaches need someone to bail them out.

Because that's what's going on.

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Does any of this sound like an organization dialed in and following some masterplan?

This is the kind of stuff you get when your head coach doesn't know what he's doing, doesn't have clear plans laid out for years about what his program looks like, who he wants on his coaching staff, and how he wants to play on all sides of the ball. We know Mayo didn't have any of those things laid out because he didn't have to interview for the Patriots. This is the result you get when you don't have a clear vision for your program.

This looks like a team that has an untrained, not-ready CEO coach at the front delgating everything to his coordinators and coaching staff, which is exponentially larger than years past. I mean, what the heck is he doing all week? If you ask me, he's not doing much, likely walking around the building talking to people, thinking up the next mean-nothing corporate jargon he loves to spew, or whatever he's going to stick into the squad meeting, like a mirror slide.

They better hope Drake Maye is the savior type. We know they need it.
 
Riffraff said:
Boston said:
I haven't seen anyone mention that...got a link to it?
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I didn't copy from anyone; just common sense.

Spotrac has the contracts (if they were made available). Click on a player and see if there's something in there.
Example:
Hunter Henry: Annual Incentives: $1M (receptions)
Kendrick Bourne: $2.5M of 2025 salary fully guarantees with 800+ receiving yards in 2024

RB Stevenson:
2025-2028 Incentives
Yards from Scrimmage
$600,000 each for 1400, 1500, 1600

Pro Bowl: $600,000
All-Pro Selection: $600,000

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QB / team play can definitely affect the ability to get the incentives on both sides of the ball.
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I don't doubt it but just confirming that that has not been reported and it is just speculation.
 
Strictly speaking from a fantasy standpoint, how much value do we think he has this year and beyond? The passing game is clearly a mess and he'll probably be running for his life, but that could also provide a bit of a floor from rushing yards.
 
zamboni said:
Strictly speaking from a fantasy standpoint, how much value do we think he has this year and beyond? The passing game is clearly a mess and he'll probably be running for his life, but that could also provide a bit of a floor from rushing yards.
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With their O-line I think the upside is limited this year...it should be much better than Brisett as I definitely could see more yards on the ground and more big plays but if he is getting destroyed they may get conservative with him as well...Dynasty-wise I do think he could be a good one...he will be the week 1 starter next year and I don't see a way that this O does not have a legit talent upgrade with all their cap space as well as a high picks in each round...and quite possibly a new coaching staff if this disaster gets worse.
 
zamboni said:
Strictly speaking from a fantasy standpoint, how much value do we think he has this year and beyond? The passing game is clearly a mess and he'll probably be running for his life, but that could also provide a bit of a floor from rushing yards.
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Tough situation but I'm not writing him off as being unusable but I am dismissing the idea he can have some kind of Justin Herbert rookie season.

Key of course, which you are touching on, is that he's an extremely underrated runner and I could see him having a rookie season like Josh Allen. That year Josh Allen threw for 173 yards and less then a TD a game. Worked out to 10.975 points per game as a passer. Jacoby is at 9.16 in the air right now so it's in range.

Allen gave you 9.25 points per game as a runner his rookie year with a pretty high amount of 52 rushing yards and a game in a TD pace that worked out to scoring one in 75% of his game. That's a tough pace to keep up with but Maye was a far more prolific runner in college then Josh Allen was and in his last two years he was putting up 8.10 fantasy points per game as a runner with 44 rushing yards a game and a TD pace of one every 61.5% of his games. I've seen stats on this I don't know were to find that most of Maye's rushing was not on designed runs which bodes well for him.

Obvious OL, pass catcher and him getting killed concerns but right now Mahomes is QB18 at 17.85 fantasy points a game and I think that range is reachable.
 
If Texans are smart and use their blitz game plan which they went to vs Chicago I think they can have a fun day. If they revert to their "we don't pass rush" then could end up being a long day.
 
Boston said:
The good news-it will be exciting to see the young QB...the Pats O is a train wreck and this at least gives Patriot fans something to be excited about...if the Pats are to begin getting out of the hole they are in the biggest reason will be because Maye is the real deal...if he is legit there is a path forward.

The bad news-the Pats franchise is in disarray right now...I don't think non-Patriot fans fully understand the mess they are (and have been the past few years) and don't grasp just how bad the O-line is...Maye is young (just turned 22) and developing and if this ends up being a David Carr situation and Maye gets hurt or his development takes a big step backwards because this is not the situation he should be thrown into it will have a devastating effect on their future.

I do want to see him play this year but I don't agree with the timing of this...the Mayo regime is teetering, and this feels like a reactionary move because of that...I wish there was another veteran QB instead of Brissett to start a few games and wait till about week 11 to hand it over to Maye ...just not sure absorbing the punishment he is about to take and running for his life for the next 11 games is the correct plan for the future...if this backfires both Mayo and Wolf need to be fired ASAP...fingers crossed this is the beginning of a new era.
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I don't think playing behind the Pats bad OL will hurt Maye's development. He played behind a bad OL at Carolina, and he is the reason that offense hummed. He is very mobile, has a strong accurate arm, and he is smart. He will have his growing pains like most rookies do, and I can understand the worry of him getting hurt behind the line, but mentally he will be fine. I like that they have decided to start him now. They have been prepping him along the way, and they have seen his growth in practice. It's time to let him start fully learning on the job.
 
When Maye was running the scout team, who was he throwing passes to ?
Boutte ?
Might be his week to break out.
Of course it is NE, so don't expect too much.
 
Next Gen Stats
Drake Maye's first career touchdown pass to Kayshon Boutte (40-yard TD) traveled 51.7 yards in the air, the longest completion by a Patriots quarterback over the last three seasons.

🔹 Target Separation: 0.8 yds
🔹 Completion Probability: 26.7%

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Insein said:
Well he definitely was an upgrade over Brisett. Considering spot starting him over Murray next week. Kyler has been so inconsistent.
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In a league that doesn't have a big penalty for turnovers, I've reached a point where Mahomes can go ahead and make me regret not starting him.

Mahomes: zero 20+ point games for the season

Maye: 21.95 in first NFL start
 
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