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QB Jalen Milroe, SEA (1 Viewer)
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Not if but when? I hope he can improve his deficiencies as he would be a blast to watch.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
As long as he isn’t another Justin Fields or Anthony Richardson. Rushing upside doesn’t mean squat if you’re not a long term starter.
For a late 2nd or 3rd round rookie pick, where most players suck regardless of what position they play, a Justin Fields outcome would be plenty acceptable. And from there, the upside is Jalen Hurts.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wasn’t speaking from a value perspective, only from the angle that rushing upside doesn’t mean much if you’re not on the field. We’ve already seen this with Fields and AR. Of course getting Milroe later in rookie drafts is a fine inexpensive dart throw.
socrates
Footballguy
Considering you can get Milroe for a minimal investment in single QB Dynasty leagues (late Rd. 3-early Rd. 4 rookie pick), I love the idea of adding him. His value is not going to go down any time soon. It should only go up. If Milroe gets a spot start, his value is almost certain to go up, and even if he rides the bench all season, his value probably isn't going down. On the other hand, if somehow he gets a prolonged stint as the starter, his value will rocket up.
Blue Wave
Footballguy
how high do you reach for him as a darnold owner?
socrates
Footballguy
I don't know that I would reach too much for Milroe in a single-QB league. I currently have Milroe at 3.11., but I have the entire Third Round in the same tier. I am guessing you view Darnold as more of a short-term starter than a long-term Dynasty investment, and I think he will hold off any challenge from Milroe as long as the Seahawks are winning. However, if it gets to Week 12-13 and the Seahawks are faltering, I would not be shocked if they give Milroe some starts to see what they have in him.
3.01 | WR11 | Jalen Royals | KC Chiefs | 6-0 | 205 | 4.42 | Rd 4, Pk 31
3.02 | RB9 | Trevor Etienne | CAR Panthers | 5-8 ¾ | 198 | 4.42 | Rd 4, Pk 12
3.03 | RB10 | Dylan Sampson | CLE Browns | 5-8 ⅛ | 200 | 4.42 (Pro Day) | Rd 4, Pk 24
3.04 | TE6 | Harold Fannin, Jr. | CLE Browns | 6-3 ¼ | 241 | 4.72 | Rd 3, Pk 3
3.05 | WR12 | Elic Ayomanor | TEN Titans | 6-1 ¾ | 206 | 4.44 | Rd 4, Pk 34
3.06 | WR13 | Tory Horton | SEA Seahawks | 6-2 ½ | 196 | 4.41 | Rd 5, Pk 30
3.07 | RB11 | Jarquez Hunter | LA Rams | 5-9 ⅜ | 204 | 4.44 | Rd 4, Pk 15
3.08 | WR14 | Tai Felton | MIN Vikings | 6-1 ⅛ | 183 | 4.37 | Rd 3, Pk 38
3.09 | WR15 | Pat Bryant | DEN Broncos | 6-2 | 204 | 4.61 | Rd 3, Pk 10
3.10 | RB12 | Devin Neal | NO Saints | 5-11 ⅛ | 213 | 4.58 | Rd 6, Pk 8
3.11 | QB2 | Jalen Milroe | SEA Seahawks | 6-1 ⅞ | 217 | 4.37 (Pro Day) | Rd 3, Pk 28
3.12 | WR16 | Isaac TeSlaa | DET Lions | 6-3 ⅝ | 214 | 4.43 | Rd 3, Pk 6
4.01 | QB3 | Jaxson Dart | NY Giants | 6-2 ¼ | 223 | – | Rd 1, Pk 25
Born to Run
Footballguy
Got him at 4.7 to pair with Darnold; just a few picks behind Ward.
Blue Wave
Footballguy
im in a sf with darnold on my roster. Probably early 2nd?
massraider
Footballguy
My plan with Milroe was to draft him, stick him on my taxi squad, wait for him to come off the bench and run for a TD and throw a bomb, then immediately trade him.
Part of his value in dynasty is that people want him to happen. His value could jump in August, with one play. He's a better passer than Anthony Richardson was, already.
It's a great tie breaker deciding between players. Where he's going, Milroe has the biggest chance to increase his value quickly. If he has two good preseason outings, people will be in here making Lamar comps.
Part of his value in dynasty is that people want him to happen. His value could jump in August, with one play. He's a better passer than Anthony Richardson was, already.
It's a great tie breaker deciding between players. Where he's going, Milroe has the biggest chance to increase his value quickly. If he has two good preseason outings, people will be in here making Lamar comps.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Fields and Arich went early in both the NFL and rookie drafts, so they cost a premium. Jalen, on the other hand, wasn’t taken that high and is way cheaper. With late rookie picks, you're just swinging for upside and hoping something hits. Jalen's that kind of lottery ticket; if he flames out, it's no big deal.
dipandglide
Footballguy
That's not a bad idea. I might hold longer than that if he gets a real opportunity. You could return a lot higher bounty if he starts producing. I'd sell at that point for a Purdy type or draft picks.My plan with Milroe was to draft him, stick him on my taxi squad, wait for him to come off the bench and run for a TD and throw a bomb, then immediately trade him.
Part of his value in dynasty is that people want him to happen. His value could jump in August, with one play. He's a better passer than Anthony Richardson was, already.
It's a great tie breaker deciding between players. Where he's going, Milroe has the biggest chance to increase his value quickly. If he has two good preseason outings, people will be in here making Lamar comps.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
If he gets to that point, he may be hard to let go. If he becomes an adequate passer and is churning yards on the ground I think owners will be scared to trade him away. Waldman was talking about his release being comparable to Marino’s in quickness. He has a big enough arm but much like AR, he either finds the touch on short/intermediate or doesn’t. I think he is more mature than AR and has a better chance to develop his weaknesses but it will not be overnight.That's not a bad idea. I might hold longer than that if he gets a real opportunity. You could return a lot higher bounty if he starts producing. I'd sell at that point for a Purdy type or draft picks.My plan with Milroe was to draft him, stick him on my taxi squad, wait for him to come off the bench and run for a TD and throw a bomb, then immediately trade him.
Part of his value in dynasty is that people want him to happen. His value could jump in August, with one play. He's a better passer than Anthony Richardson was, already.
It's a great tie breaker deciding between players. Where he's going, Milroe has the biggest chance to increase his value quickly. If he has two good preseason outings, people will be in here making Lamar comps.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes, I already posted the late round value post is a good thing.
socrates
Footballguy
I believe you are right, although I have never played SF.
socrates
Footballguy
Many of the things you hear about Milroe are similar to what we heard about Lamar Jackson when he first came into the league. Elite running ability. Strong arm. Questionable accuracy. Strong character and work ethic.
Take a look at this 2018 Scouting Report for Lamar Jackson:
PROS
Tremendous athleticism. Explosive running threat. Huge arm. Makes some of the most difficult throws on the field with ease. Was astonishingly durable in college considering his physical running style. Was asked to make many downfield, pro-style multi-progression passing reads.
CONS
Simply not an accurate passer. Sails throws, under-throws balls and struggles with ball placement even to wide open targets. Needs to hone his timing, rhythm and mechanics to improve accuracy. Takes too many risks with the football and too often tries to squeeze throws into ill-advised windows.
Sound familiar?
We have watched other mobile QBs fail, but there is plenty of reason to be excited about Milroe's potential. He is far more advanced than either Trey Lance or Malik Willis. One of the things Milroe has going for him is his maturity. Plus, he does not have to feel weighted down by unrealistic expectations. Unlike Vince Young (1.03), Anthony Richardson (1.04), Justin Fields (1.11), and Trey Lance (1.03), who all felt pressure to succeed early to justify the draft investment, Milroe was taken in Round 3 (taken as the 4th QB). For comparison, Lamar was taken with the final pick of Round 1 as the fifth QB taken in the 2018 class. Jalen Hurts was a Round 2 pick (also the 5th QB taken).
Where a guy like Richardson was over-drafted, Milroe was arguably under-drafted. He is far from a sure thing. He is a project. However, at his cost, I am buying.
Take a look at this 2018 Scouting Report for Lamar Jackson:
PROS
Tremendous athleticism. Explosive running threat. Huge arm. Makes some of the most difficult throws on the field with ease. Was astonishingly durable in college considering his physical running style. Was asked to make many downfield, pro-style multi-progression passing reads.
CONS
Simply not an accurate passer. Sails throws, under-throws balls and struggles with ball placement even to wide open targets. Needs to hone his timing, rhythm and mechanics to improve accuracy. Takes too many risks with the football and too often tries to squeeze throws into ill-advised windows.
Sound familiar?
We have watched other mobile QBs fail, but there is plenty of reason to be excited about Milroe's potential. He is far more advanced than either Trey Lance or Malik Willis. One of the things Milroe has going for him is his maturity. Plus, he does not have to feel weighted down by unrealistic expectations. Unlike Vince Young (1.03), Anthony Richardson (1.04), Justin Fields (1.11), and Trey Lance (1.03), who all felt pressure to succeed early to justify the draft investment, Milroe was taken in Round 3 (taken as the 4th QB). For comparison, Lamar was taken with the final pick of Round 1 as the fifth QB taken in the 2018 class. Jalen Hurts was a Round 2 pick (also the 5th QB taken).
Where a guy like Richardson was over-drafted, Milroe was arguably under-drafted. He is far from a sure thing. He is a project. However, at his cost, I am buying.
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Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
Early 3rd if Darnold is your QB1 or its a 16 team league
dipandglide
Footballguy
Milroe owners aren't trading him for an early 3rd in Superflex leagues. You're going to have to trade a mid-2nd to open any discussion.
ex-ghost
Footballguy
He went 2.3 in our SF league to a non-Darnold owner, me.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Targeting him at 3.04 in my 16 team IDP league.
ex-ghost
Footballguy
Once I picked him I immediately had a few offers for him. We live in WA, so that helps with the Milroe hype.
