In addition, now tied for the best record in the NFL.
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QB Jared Goff, DET (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Agreed
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I never took that stupid blue ski mask to Goodwill. Look for the old couple wearing matching Honolulu blue 97s.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Goff has another year after this year. An extension should get done this off-season.
After next season Goff will made 162,000,000 in career earnings not counting endorsements. So I don`t think he is worried where his next meal will be coming from.
Has made a nice career in the NFL for himself.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
&161M after 2023
$187M after 2024
Which is not even relevant but let’s get it right since it’s public info easily found.
Jared Goff | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com
Three years after acquiring him from the Rams, the Detroit Lions extended QB Jared Goff to a 4 year, $134 million extension that includes $170M practically guaranteed, $113M of which is fully guaranteed at signing. At $53M per year, Goff becomes the second highest average paid player in NFL...
The man will get paid. I love that he just blows off any Qs about it. Do your job, you get rewarded, no reason to waste calories on it.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
&161M after 2023
$187M after 2024
Which is not even relevant but let’s get it right since it’s public info easily found.
Jared Goff | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com
Three years after acquiring him from the Rams, the Detroit Lions extended QB Jared Goff to a 4 year, $134 million extension that includes $170M practically guaranteed, $113M of which is fully guaranteed at signing. At $53M per year, Goff becomes the second highest average paid player in NFL...www.spotrac.com
The man will get paid. I love that he just blows off any Qs about it. Do your job, you get rewarded, no reason to waste calories on it.
&161M after 2023
$187M after 2024
Which is not even relevant but let’s get it right since it’s public info easily found.
Jared Goff | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com
Three years after acquiring him from the Rams, the Detroit Lions extended QB Jared Goff to a 4 year, $134 million extension that includes $170M practically guaranteed, $113M of which is fully guaranteed at signing. At $53M per year, Goff becomes the second highest average paid player in NFL...
The man will get paid. I love that he just blows off any Qs about it. Do your job, you get rewarded, no reason to waste calories on it.
I only missed 26 million dollars. No biggie.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
It’s irrelevant. What he has made so far is not a factor in what he is worth going forward.
It only matters to folks who think elite talent isn’t worth what they’re paid. Whether it’s athlete, actors, entertainers…people being jelly about the [top] 0.1% is the silliest thing ever.
I’m grateful these kind of people bring joy to my life. Whatever the marketplace says they’re worth, why should I care? Ain’t my money.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Knowing the way Goff has acted so far in his career the next time he talks about his contract it will have already been signed and done. Highly doubt he will be going through the media like Lamar Jackson just did.
Right now he seems really happy could not be in a better situation.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Class act. As was Stafford.
So much drama for ARI, BAL, DEN, GB, NYJ, et al, about franchise QBs and their long term deals.
We’re keeping the main thing the main thing. As it should be.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Just like that he’s proving Mcvay wrong. 300 yards on the road!
FarFromHome
Footballguy
You look at his career from a pure box score standpoint and its waaaaaay better then he gets credit for. Dudes really put up solid stats every year. Him and Cousins get little love in the NFL world. I think him and Detroit for the next 4 years is a perfect match. All my opinion
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
tree fitty
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
To be fair, I think the trade was win-win. Stafford helped the Rams win a Super Bowl, and Goff has had a major hand in the Lions resurgence.
Who is this guy? Says he is a former NFL QB but doesnt give his name that I can find. good stuff.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
It's also a very unique situation from the standpoint of one team moved on from their franchise QB, face of the team, with zero drama.
Has that ever happened in the modern NFL? @Wingnut @Hot Sauce Guy what was it like when they moved Joe Montana to the Chiefs? Was their animosity between the player and the team? How did the fanbase fill.
For one season (and 1 season only) Lions fans became Rams fans. We wanted Stafford to have a chance to get a ring, he's such a beloved figure in Detroit. Every single week at the podium and not one misstep or shade. Great ambassador.
It's taken fans longer to appreciate Goff. But I tell you what, he's a mentally strong dude in his own right. To come back from basically being discarded by McVay - he hung up on him when the Rams coach called him after the trade went down - and persevere, you really have to admire the dude. He was viewed as a bridge QB but now I think it's almost unaminous that we need to pay this man bc the situation is so good; he fits the personality of our team like tailored suit.
J.T. O'Sullivan
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
UPDATE
(4 pt /td)
2021 Home Split: 193.48 in 9 games (21.51 PPG QB5)
2021 Away Split: 105.84 in 8 games (13.23 PPG Q16)
2022 Home Split: 74.38 in 3 games (24.79 PPG QB4)
2022 Away Split: 54.84 in 3 games (18.28 PPG Q20)
QB18-QB9-QB13-QB21-QB4-QB2
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Did you listen to The Ticket yesterday?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He often posts podcast content without crediting the citation
Since I’m not on his Committee and he’s not defending his FF Master Degree thesis I usually let it go
I’ve observed it a good half dozen times, I don’t think it’s a coincidence
No harm no foul I don’t wanna be the content attribution police (tbh I do it myself)
As long as people are getting solid info no worries
But adding a link helps people decide if it’s a reliable source or just a guy on the internet
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I always have The Ticket on in the background or when driving. Valenti talked about the very same thing for 15 minutes yesterday while giving Goffs stats.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yeah I heard that
In the past I have found Valenti unlistenable but I’ve been catching him from time to time
I see he’s getting national expo partnering with dudes from ESPN
I don’t get it, he’s the same jackwad he’s always been, but whatever
He does suck slightly less this year but only marginally
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I usually turn off Valenti as his schtick is old. Now he has his Parrot Rico sitting on his shoulder. Rico is so much better when he is by himself instead of being a yes man to Valenti.
Valenti hates Michigan and Harbaugh with a passion, but he does it piss off Michigan fans because Michigan fans base and callers are double and triple that of MSU fans, so it adds to the ratings. Like Rush Limbaugh said years ago "To have good ratings the people who hate you have to listen as well"
Valenti was the biggest Lion hater ever, though DC was a joke as a HC and called for him to be fired by Thanksgiving of his first season numerous times.
When he actually just talks sports without the hate and bias he is good. That is rare though.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@PFF
Highest graded QBs on 20+ yard throws:
Highest graded QBs on 20+ yard throws:
- Jared Goff - 99.0
- Matthew Stafford - 98.1
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
PFF
Jared Goff, Detroit Lions
- Goff has been outstanding to start the year, earning an 85.7 overall grade that ranks fifth among all quarterbacks through seven weeks.
- However, he’s been hit or miss from a fantasy perspective. He has three games as a top-four fantasy quarterback, but he's also finished outside the top 12 four times.
- He’s thrown at least 28 times for 200-plus yards in every game. The big difference between his good and bad fantasy games is his touchdown count.
- The three good games came against defenses that have allowed a touchdown on 3.9% of passing attempts. The four bad games came against defenses that have allowed a touchdown on 3.2% of passing attempts.
- The Lions have the sixth-best matchup for quarterbacks this week, according to our strength of schedule tool. The Raiders have allowed a touchdown on 4.2% of passing attempts, increasing the odds that Goff can find the end zone multiple times in week 8.
- Amon-Ra St. Brown is top-10 among wide receivers in missed tackles forced, while the Raiders have missed a tackle on 15% of their passing plays, the fourth-worst mark among defenses. This increases the chances of St. Brown breaking off a big play for a touchdown.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Goff is in a dome or a retractable roof stadium 8 of the last 9 weeks after the bye
*(at Chicago Week 14 is the only cold weather game of the year for Detroit)
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My initial thought (colored by my disgust at his 5th interception and 2nd pick 6 of the year) was the MNF v Raiders was the worst game Goff has had since the win over GB in Detroit Week 9 last year.
PFF gave him his 2nd highest grade of the year (84.4); big picture, they controlled the game, outgained them 486-157, let them hang around too long, lost the turnover battle, missed a chip shot FG, all those little things that will cost you v a good team. Still, 26/37 272 1-1 ain't the worst floor game.
On pace for 4600 yards 25 TDs 11 INT - nothing that really changes the narrative of him as a QB
But 6-2 and running a top 5 offense, and the defense is good enough they should be able to match that win total in the 2nd half to win their first division title in 30 years.
Several plus matchups left:
FF Finals is at Dallas so that's a no go, but that's four easy matchups plus Thanksgiving at home v GB and a Semifinal against the gambling MIN D. The lone game not recommended would be the Saints....have a feeling MCDC and AG are going to take that one personally.
I think he'll improve on his counting stats RoS, hoping he'll end up around 4700 30+ TDs and tighten up the turnovers. Historically has played better in the 2nd half every year he's been in Detroit and the schedule is softer than what he has faced YTD.
*(at Chicago Week 14 is the only cold weather game of the year for Detroit)
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My initial thought (colored by my disgust at his 5th interception and 2nd pick 6 of the year) was the MNF v Raiders was the worst game Goff has had since the win over GB in Detroit Week 9 last year.
PFF gave him his 2nd highest grade of the year (84.4); big picture, they controlled the game, outgained them 486-157, let them hang around too long, lost the turnover battle, missed a chip shot FG, all those little things that will cost you v a good team. Still, 26/37 272 1-1 ain't the worst floor game.
On pace for 4600 yards 25 TDs 11 INT - nothing that really changes the narrative of him as a QB
But 6-2 and running a top 5 offense, and the defense is good enough they should be able to match that win total in the 2nd half to win their first division title in 30 years.
Several plus matchups left:
2023 Season Game Log
| Fantasy | Passing | Rushing | Misc | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Week | Opp | Status | Proj | Fan Pts | Yds | TD | Int | Att | Yds | TD | 2-PT | Pass Att | Comp |
| 1 | @KC (30th) | Final W 21-20 | 17.58 | 14.02 | 253 | 1 | 0 | 5 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 35 | 22 |
| 2 | Sea (15th) | Final L 31-37 | 17.78 | 23.92 | 323 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 35 | 28 |
| 3 | Atl (10th) | Final W 20-6 | 17.85 | 21.02 | 243 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 33 | 22 |
| 4 | @GB (25th) | Final W 34-20 | 16.49 | 11.40 | 210 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 28 | 19 |
| 5 | Car (17th) | Final W 42-24 | 17.29 | 27.44 | 236 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 28 | 20 |
| 6 | @TB (11th) | Final W 20-6 | 16.56 | 26.42 | 353 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 44 | 30 |
| 7 | @bal (32nd) | Final L 6-38 | 16.60 | 9.36 | 284 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 53 | 33 |
| 8 | LV (24th) | Final W 26-14 | 19.18 | 13.68 | 272 | 1 | 1 | 2 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 37 | 26 |
| 9 | BYE | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 10 | @LAC (1st) | 4:05 PM | 17.19 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 11 | Chi (5th) | 1:00 PM | 17.64 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 12 | GB (25th) | 12:30 PM | 17.48 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 13 | @NO (27th) | 1:00 PM | 17.12 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 14 | @Chi (5th) | 1:00 PM | 17.12 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 15 | Den (7th) | 1:00 PM | 17.19 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 16 | @Min (14th) | 1:00 PM | 16.74 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
FF Finals is at Dallas so that's a no go, but that's four easy matchups plus Thanksgiving at home v GB and a Semifinal against the gambling MIN D. The lone game not recommended would be the Saints....have a feeling MCDC and AG are going to take that one personally.
I think he'll improve on his counting stats RoS, hoping he'll end up around 4700 30+ TDs and tighten up the turnovers. Historically has played better in the 2nd half every year he's been in Detroit and the schedule is softer than what he has faced YTD.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
LA TIMES
BY SAM FARMER
BY SAM FARMER
Jared Goff got closure from Sean McVay, and it helped make him a Detroit Lions hero
His father was a fireman and, in a way, Jared Goff is one too.
Consider his career as a quarterback. Time after time, he has gone into a bad situation and ultimately made it better, extinguishing the wrong kind of fire and eventually igniting the right one.
“It’s not the most fun way to do it, I guess,” Goff told the Los Angeles Times in a phone interview this week. “Everyone would love to go and just win, win, win. But it’s a very rewarding and fulfilling way to go about it. Proud of myself, certainly, and all those teammates on those teams for being down in the gutter and being able to come out on top.”
Check the history. At the University of California, his teams went from 1-11 to winning a bowl game. His Rams went from 4-12 his rookie year to the Super Bowl two years later. And now with the Detroit Lions, Goff’s team went from 3-13-1 to now, a season-and-a-half later, 6-2 and one of the NFL’s top franchises.
The Lions, who play at the Chargers on Sunday, have generated at least 325 yards of offense in each of their first eight games, the first time they’ve done that since 1954. From Week 10 of 2022 through Week 6 of this season, they scored at least 20 points a game, establishing a franchise record of 15 such games in a row.
“They really force you to defend everybody on the field,” Chargers coach Brandon Staley said. “They have a lot of different guys who touch the football. Jared has a lot of experience playing that way. That is how he played with Sean [McVay] with the Rams, and that is how he is playing now. He is playing really smart football and he is getting the ball to his play-makers.”
The last eight years have been a winding odyssey for Goff, 29, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2016 draft. The Rams made dramatic moves to get him, then, just five years later, worked just as hard to replace him with Detroit’s Matthew Stafford — even though they had signed Goff to a $110-million deal. just two years earlier.
So two quarterbacks taken first overall swapped cities, and Goff, even though he already had been to a Super Bowl, had huge cleats to fill in Detroit.
Stafford was enormously popular in the Motor City and remains so, and his legend only grew when he went to Los Angeles and won a Super Bowl in his first season. They might as well have been the Detroit Rams with the way those Stafford-loyal Lions fans were pulling for them.
Meanwhile, Goff’s teams were really struggling. In his inaugural season in Detroit, the Lions didn’t win their first game until Week 13. Last season, despite glimmers of promise, they got off to a 1-6 start. The Lions turned a corner last season, winning eight of their final 10 games.
Initially, there was a strong belief outside the franchise that Goff was merely a placeholder keeping the seat warm for the next great Lions hope but clearly the club’s decision-makers had something else in mind. One of those people was general manager Brad Holmes, who came from the Rams and had been with Goff in L.A.
“The narrative when he got here was a little skewed,” Holmes said. “People thought he was a throw-in because of his contract. That was not the case. There were other quarterbacks who were on the carousel that year, and [Rams GM Les Snead] and I had a conversation specifically of, ‘Do you want Jared in the deal?’ And I was like, `Absolutely.’ ”
That turned out to be a shrewd decision, even though it took patience for coach Dan Campbell and the Lions to stick with Goff through the early turbulence while the foundation was being poured for the ground-up rebuild.
The lanky and laid-back Goff, a California kid out of Central Casting, initially seemed like a mismatch for the hard-edged grit of Detroit. Much of that was based on superficial appearances.
Though he’s 6 feet, 4 inches, Goff doesn’t have that prototypical bulk of the Chargers’ Justin Herbert or Buffalo’s Josh Allen. The Detroit quarterback is deceptively durable, however.
“I remember when Jared came out, and I want to say he was playing versus Washington,” recalled Holmes, director of college scouting for the Rams at the time. “And he takes this shot, this blitzer comes right down the pipe and just smokes him dead in the face. Jared just uncorked this dime deep for a touchdown. I was like, ‘Oh, this kid’s tough.’”
Goff has made 39 of 42 possible starts with Detroit.
“You’re not going to get me off the field unless I can’t move or can’t function,” he said. “I owe it to my guys. I owe it to my team. We trust each other.”
Of the perception he’s a sleepy-eyed West Coaster who lacks intensity, he said: “I’ve kind of been misperceived my whole life that way. I don’t think I’m much different than a lot of quarterbacks around the league. A lot of us get labeled as some things, certain perceptions.
“It’s a lot easier for someone to create a narrative of you than it is for you to break that narrative of yourself. That’s not ever my goal. I’m not worried what people are writing or whatever. But at some point you’re like, well, that’s not even close to the truth.”
he middle of the country wasn’t an unfamiliar place for the family. Before becoming a fireman, Jerry Goff was a Major League catcher for the Montreal Expos, Pittsburgh Pirates and Houston Astros. He and his wife, Nancy, thought their son had a chance to develop a special connection with fans in Detroit.
“Nancy and I mentioned to him that the Midwest is beautiful,” the elder Goff said. “I lived out there a lot during my playing days and I loved it. That was our focus to him, ‘Fans are unbelievable. Culture is wonderful.’ And he’s really taken that on.”
That’s not to say the transition was easy.
“He went through some real dark times at first in a rebuild,” Jerry Goff said. “He really learned a lot about himself, he and his fiancée being out there by themselves, away from L.A. and really just digging in on the football side.”
For Jared Goff, a key part of moving on to the Lions required getting some closure from the Rams. In the weeks after the Stafford trade was done, instead of walking away without a word, Goff went back to McVay so he could understand the specific reasons why the team parted ways with him — and what Goff could glean from the experience to make himself a better player.
“He wanted the full breakdown of why,” recalled former Rams tackle Andrew Whitworth, a close friend of Goff. “I thought that really showed his toughness.”
Goff showed up at Whitworth’s house in the days after the deal was consummated to get his thoughts. Then the quarterback informed him he was moving on for an exit meeting with McVay.
“I’m like, ‘Wait, what?’ ” Whitworth recalled. “And he’s like, ‘I told Sean I still want to do our exit meeting…’ And I was like, ‘You’re crazy. Why would you want to do an exit?’ And he said, ‘I want him to tell me right to my face what I did wrong. I want to hear it from him. How do I get better?’ He wanted closure.”
Recalling that two years later, Goff didn’t go into details about what was said in his final meeting with McVay, saying only: “I got some answers and gained a lot of closure. He was forthright.”
Clearly, Goff is deep into the next chapter, as are the Rams, who this week signed quarterback Carson Wentz. He was drafted second overall by Philadelphia in 2016. There was much speculation before that draft about whether the Rams would take Goff or Wentz.
“It’s very ironic he’s there,” Goff said of Wentz. “But I’m really happy for him,”
Likewise, Goff and the Lions are gaining fans around the country by the week.
“He’s a winning quarterback who has taken a team to the Super Bowl and has a chance to do it again,” said ESPN’s Joe Buck, who called Detroit’s win over Las Vegas in Week 8. “The Lions are the de facto America’s Team. Everybody roots for Detroit. And I think if you knew Jared Goff, everybody would root for Jared.”
Consider his career as a quarterback. Time after time, he has gone into a bad situation and ultimately made it better, extinguishing the wrong kind of fire and eventually igniting the right one.
“It’s not the most fun way to do it, I guess,” Goff told the Los Angeles Times in a phone interview this week. “Everyone would love to go and just win, win, win. But it’s a very rewarding and fulfilling way to go about it. Proud of myself, certainly, and all those teammates on those teams for being down in the gutter and being able to come out on top.”
Check the history. At the University of California, his teams went from 1-11 to winning a bowl game. His Rams went from 4-12 his rookie year to the Super Bowl two years later. And now with the Detroit Lions, Goff’s team went from 3-13-1 to now, a season-and-a-half later, 6-2 and one of the NFL’s top franchises.
The Lions, who play at the Chargers on Sunday, have generated at least 325 yards of offense in each of their first eight games, the first time they’ve done that since 1954. From Week 10 of 2022 through Week 6 of this season, they scored at least 20 points a game, establishing a franchise record of 15 such games in a row.
“They really force you to defend everybody on the field,” Chargers coach Brandon Staley said. “They have a lot of different guys who touch the football. Jared has a lot of experience playing that way. That is how he played with Sean [McVay] with the Rams, and that is how he is playing now. He is playing really smart football and he is getting the ball to his play-makers.”
The last eight years have been a winding odyssey for Goff, 29, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2016 draft. The Rams made dramatic moves to get him, then, just five years later, worked just as hard to replace him with Detroit’s Matthew Stafford — even though they had signed Goff to a $110-million deal. just two years earlier.
So two quarterbacks taken first overall swapped cities, and Goff, even though he already had been to a Super Bowl, had huge cleats to fill in Detroit.
Stafford was enormously popular in the Motor City and remains so, and his legend only grew when he went to Los Angeles and won a Super Bowl in his first season. They might as well have been the Detroit Rams with the way those Stafford-loyal Lions fans were pulling for them.
Meanwhile, Goff’s teams were really struggling. In his inaugural season in Detroit, the Lions didn’t win their first game until Week 13. Last season, despite glimmers of promise, they got off to a 1-6 start. The Lions turned a corner last season, winning eight of their final 10 games.
Initially, there was a strong belief outside the franchise that Goff was merely a placeholder keeping the seat warm for the next great Lions hope but clearly the club’s decision-makers had something else in mind. One of those people was general manager Brad Holmes, who came from the Rams and had been with Goff in L.A.
“The narrative when he got here was a little skewed,” Holmes said. “People thought he was a throw-in because of his contract. That was not the case. There were other quarterbacks who were on the carousel that year, and [Rams GM Les Snead] and I had a conversation specifically of, ‘Do you want Jared in the deal?’ And I was like, `Absolutely.’ ”
That turned out to be a shrewd decision, even though it took patience for coach Dan Campbell and the Lions to stick with Goff through the early turbulence while the foundation was being poured for the ground-up rebuild.
The lanky and laid-back Goff, a California kid out of Central Casting, initially seemed like a mismatch for the hard-edged grit of Detroit. Much of that was based on superficial appearances.
Though he’s 6 feet, 4 inches, Goff doesn’t have that prototypical bulk of the Chargers’ Justin Herbert or Buffalo’s Josh Allen. The Detroit quarterback is deceptively durable, however.
“I remember when Jared came out, and I want to say he was playing versus Washington,” recalled Holmes, director of college scouting for the Rams at the time. “And he takes this shot, this blitzer comes right down the pipe and just smokes him dead in the face. Jared just uncorked this dime deep for a touchdown. I was like, ‘Oh, this kid’s tough.’”
Goff has made 39 of 42 possible starts with Detroit.
“You’re not going to get me off the field unless I can’t move or can’t function,” he said. “I owe it to my guys. I owe it to my team. We trust each other.”
Of the perception he’s a sleepy-eyed West Coaster who lacks intensity, he said: “I’ve kind of been misperceived my whole life that way. I don’t think I’m much different than a lot of quarterbacks around the league. A lot of us get labeled as some things, certain perceptions.
“It’s a lot easier for someone to create a narrative of you than it is for you to break that narrative of yourself. That’s not ever my goal. I’m not worried what people are writing or whatever. But at some point you’re like, well, that’s not even close to the truth.”
he middle of the country wasn’t an unfamiliar place for the family. Before becoming a fireman, Jerry Goff was a Major League catcher for the Montreal Expos, Pittsburgh Pirates and Houston Astros. He and his wife, Nancy, thought their son had a chance to develop a special connection with fans in Detroit.
“Nancy and I mentioned to him that the Midwest is beautiful,” the elder Goff said. “I lived out there a lot during my playing days and I loved it. That was our focus to him, ‘Fans are unbelievable. Culture is wonderful.’ And he’s really taken that on.”
That’s not to say the transition was easy.
“He went through some real dark times at first in a rebuild,” Jerry Goff said. “He really learned a lot about himself, he and his fiancée being out there by themselves, away from L.A. and really just digging in on the football side.”
For Jared Goff, a key part of moving on to the Lions required getting some closure from the Rams. In the weeks after the Stafford trade was done, instead of walking away without a word, Goff went back to McVay so he could understand the specific reasons why the team parted ways with him — and what Goff could glean from the experience to make himself a better player.
“He wanted the full breakdown of why,” recalled former Rams tackle Andrew Whitworth, a close friend of Goff. “I thought that really showed his toughness.”
Goff showed up at Whitworth’s house in the days after the deal was consummated to get his thoughts. Then the quarterback informed him he was moving on for an exit meeting with McVay.
“I’m like, ‘Wait, what?’ ” Whitworth recalled. “And he’s like, ‘I told Sean I still want to do our exit meeting…’ And I was like, ‘You’re crazy. Why would you want to do an exit?’ And he said, ‘I want him to tell me right to my face what I did wrong. I want to hear it from him. How do I get better?’ He wanted closure.”
Recalling that two years later, Goff didn’t go into details about what was said in his final meeting with McVay, saying only: “I got some answers and gained a lot of closure. He was forthright.”
Clearly, Goff is deep into the next chapter, as are the Rams, who this week signed quarterback Carson Wentz. He was drafted second overall by Philadelphia in 2016. There was much speculation before that draft about whether the Rams would take Goff or Wentz.
“It’s very ironic he’s there,” Goff said of Wentz. “But I’m really happy for him,”
Likewise, Goff and the Lions are gaining fans around the country by the week.
“He’s a winning quarterback who has taken a team to the Super Bowl and has a chance to do it again,” said ESPN’s Joe Buck, who called Detroit’s win over Las Vegas in Week 8. “The Lions are the de facto America’s Team. Everybody roots for Detroit. And I think if you knew Jared Goff, everybody would root for Jared.”
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Who are your other qbs?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not great, but not horrible. Purdy, Levis, Dobbs, and Bryce Young. This is NOT a SuperFlex league. The 2nd is projected high.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
I have Goff in my 14 team dynasty league, but backing up Mahomes. You have more QB depth than I do to move Goff. I like the move of getting a high 2nd
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
was having such an awful day
- Jared Goff was 13-24 for 121 yards, 1 TD and 3 INT’s in the first 55 minutes
- He went 10-11 for 115 yards and a TD in the final 4:15
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
some random advanced stats for Goff courtesy of PFF:
Adjusted Completion %
accounts for dropped passes, throw aways, spiked balls, batted passes, and passes where the QB was hit while they threw the ball. The formula:
((Completions + Drops) / (Attempts - Throw Aways - Spikes - Batted Passes - Hit As Thrown))
anyway
Turnover Worthy Play % - worth noting not all turnovers are TWP
Goff is 17th in BTT (14) and 18th in BTT% (3.7%)
BTT:TWP RATIO
after an abysmal Week 11 (season low 47.6) Goff drops from first (>90) to 5th (86.9)
ADoT
25. Goff 7.0
It is a YAC driven offense; Detroit is sandwiched between Miami and San Francisco for the most YAC, averaging 128.9 yards per game.
Drops; Drop%
Tied with Cousins for the most drops with 20. As a % of ATT:
Smack in the middle with 6 batted attempted throws on 361 attempts
HAT
hit as thrown
throwaways
Total pressures of the passer of any kind (generated by the defense)
15th least/13th most - 126
Fewest Sacks
5. Goff 17
P2S%
Pressure to Sacks percentage
TTT (time to throw)
Context is key here IMO. 4 of these guys get the ball out quick by design and their quick release.
1. Jackson 43
2. Mahomes 33
3. Allen 30
....
35. Goff 4 (382 drop backs)
36. Cousins 3 (331)
37. Levis 3 (138)
38. AOC 0 (159)
Adjusted Completion %
accounts for dropped passes, throw aways, spiked balls, batted passes, and passes where the QB was hit while they threw the ball. The formula:
((Completions + Drops) / (Attempts - Throw Aways - Spikes - Batted Passes - Hit As Thrown))
anyway
- R. Wilson 80.8%
- Cousins 80.5%
- Goff 80.4%
Turnover Worthy Play % - worth noting not all turnovers are TWP
- Prescott 1.7%
- Stafford 1.9%
- Burrow 2.1%
- Pickett 2.1%
- Goff 2.3%
Goff is 17th in BTT (14) and 18th in BTT% (3.7%)
BTT:TWP RATIO
- Prescott 22:7 3.14
- Stafford 20:7 2,85
- Allen 21:11 1.91
- Burrow 17:9 1.89
- Tagovailoa 22:12 1.83
- Hurts 21:12 1.75
- R. Wilson 17:10 1.70
- Lawrence 20:12 1.67
- Goff 14:9 1.56
- Jackson 17:11 1.55
- Stroud 17:11 1.55
- Love 16:11 1.45
- Carr 14:10 1.40
- Herbert 18:13 1.38
- Purdy 19:14 1.36
- Howell 24:19 1.26
- Cousins 10:8 1.25
- Smith 17:14 1.21
- Mahomes 16:14 1.14
- Pickett 8:7 1.14
- Zach Wilson 8:10 0.80
- Mayfield 10:13 0.77
- Jones 11:19 0.58
- Young 8:14 0.57
- Dobbs 9:18 0.50
- Minshew 7:17 410
- Ridder 6:17 0.35
after an abysmal Week 11 (season low 47.6) Goff drops from first (>90) to 5th (86.9)
ADoT
25. Goff 7.0
It is a YAC driven offense; Detroit is sandwiched between Miami and San Francisco for the most YAC, averaging 128.9 yards per game.
Drops; Drop%
Tied with Cousins for the most drops with 20. As a % of ATT:
- Z. Wilson 9.1%
- Stafford 8.5%
- Cousins 8.5%
- Love 8.1%
- Stroud 7.9%
- Goff 7.5%
Smack in the middle with 6 batted attempted throws on 361 attempts
HAT
hit as thrown
- Ridder 0 (246 ATT)
- Pickett 1 (281)
- Howell 2 (442)
- Allen 2 (382)
- Goff 2 (361)
throwaways
- Young 30
- Howell 26
- Smith 22
- R. Wilson, Hurts, Goff 21
Total pressures of the passer of any kind (generated by the defense)
15th least/13th most - 126
Fewest Sacks
5. Goff 17
P2S%
Pressure to Sacks percentage
- Mahomes 8.7%
- Allen 10.1%
- Goff 13.5%
TTT (time to throw)
Context is key here IMO. 4 of these guys get the ball out quick by design and their quick release.
- Tua 2.31
- Mac Jones 2.44
- Burrow 2.47
- TLaw 2.55
- Goffense 2.56
1. Jackson 43
2. Mahomes 33
3. Allen 30
....
35. Goff 4 (382 drop backs)
36. Cousins 3 (331)
37. Levis 3 (138)
38. AOC 0 (159)
Faust
MVP
Next Gen Stats
Jared Goff threw all five of his TD passes targeting in-breaking routes, the most in a game by a QB over the last six seasons.
In-Breaking: 14/17, 195 yards, 5 TD (+14.9% CPOE)
Goff leads the NFL in TDs targeting in-breaking routes this season (15).
#DENvsDET | #OnePride
Judge Smails
Footballguy
When he’s good he’s very good…
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
with a game in hand Goff leads the NFL in yards passing and his 26 TDs are solo 2nd to Dak
obviously he won't end the weekend there but that was probably one of his best games as a Lion
Spotrac puts the resign cost at 5 years, $210M with $168M GTD
obviously he won't end the weekend there but that was probably one of his best games as a Lion
Spotrac puts the resign cost at 5 years, $210M with $168M GTD
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
Hard to say. I thought the same thing when he faced Denver.
Down Under
Footballguy
Goff was pretty bad in Dallas last year and has a reputation of poor play on the road, so no, I don't think it's crazy. I'd be looking at alternatives.
This may be true but there are a couple of things in Goff's favor. First, the Lions are 6-0 when their current starting offensive line plays and in those games, Goff has a passer rating of about 120. Second, Dallas can't stop the run. If the Lions can run the ball, it makes it much tougher to rush the QB.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
And of those 6 games you mentioned, 4 were on the road.
