QB Justin Fields, NYJ (4 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I believe they improved his situation, but the OL was trash.

I think he just made the OL look bad.

Sack rates by QB last year:

1. Bagent

31. Fields

Bagent - 5 games, 143 pass attempts. in one of the games he attempted just 14 passes.

Fields - 13 games, 370 pass attempts.

Cmon.

 

[Gally]

Advanced QB Statistics

Here's the link. Adjust the filter for pocket time. Justin Fields had the most (2.8 seconds) pocket time of ANY QB IN THE LEAGUE that played at least 50 snaps! The narrative that the Bears offensive line is somehow "atrocious" is just flat out false.

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't mobile QB's have a longer "pocket time". Lamar was at 2.7, Wilson 2.7, Stroud at 2.6, Hurts 2.6, . I guess i am just not sure what that pocket time really tells me.

 

[menobrown]

I believe they improved his situation, but the OL was trash.

I think he just made the OL look bad.

Sack rates by QB last year:

1. Bagent

31. Fields

Bagent - 5 games, 143 pass attempts. in one of the games he attempted just 14 passes.

Fields - 13 games, 370 pass attempts.

Cmon.

Honestly not sure how someone can have this disparity pointed out and keep arguing what you are arguing.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Honestly not sure how someone can have this disparity pointed out and keep arguing what you are arguing.

I'm simply arguing that the stat you're employing is a poor comparison because it's not apples to apples.

Not even mentioning the quality of pass rush they faced, respectively (because I don't have time to research it - just saying they faced different teams).

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

And teams let him run all over the place because the team is already down 2 scores and instead of running an NFL style no huddle, 4 minute offense he runs for a bunch of empty yards in losses.


If I was up 14 on the Bears, I'm letting idiot Fields run all over me while the clock continues to burn. Once he has to throw the ball, he'll just turn it over.

Take some emotion out of it as a fan
Your Bears have had a dearth of talent on both sides of the ball.
The OL has been atrocious. Too many times Fields has dropped back and not even been able to get to his second read, let alone his first.
Lack of wrs.....your argument for being down late in the game says more about the defense and overall lack of talent

Is Fields the next Manning? Doubtful.....but he can win and flourish with better talent and an ever improving game. He is getting better as his talent around him has gotten better. Gotta find the right system for this kid as well as talent and support. Someone will if not the Bears, especially if they trade him for a nickel

Man, I wish that was the case. But how many running QBs have succeeded in the last 20 years?


Vick and Jackson? I'll leave the thread after this post since people love a guy who doesn't win games, has thrown for 167 yards per game on average, and briefly held the record for most fumbles per game.



He is the caricature of everything people don't like about running Quarterbacks. Either way, come April 25, I never have to deal with this loser again. I hope your favorite team signs him so you can enjoy his 11-29 record and 167 yards a game. Enjoy how much potential he has as he continues to fumble and lose games.



Seacrest out.

Do you know Joe Namath's overall record? You know, the guy who's in the Hall of Fame? Won the Superbowl in 68? 66-70-4. His overall teams were crap after the Superbowl run and the record shows. Point being, football is a team sport and team record doesn't tell the entire story. Of course, most aren't interested in the nuance. It's all about the shiny new toy.

That's still a 48.5% win percentage. If Fields was anywhere near that, I wouldn't hate him. Fields win percentage is 27.5%.

Fields would need to win his next 16 games to have a 48.5% win percentage. What about the 167 yards passing per game or the fact that he fumbles the ball at the 3rd highest rate of any QB in league history. Is that the teams fault too?


I bet if he fumbled less and threw for more yards, the Bears would have lost less games.



Joe Namath is a HOF. If Fields was anyway resembling a HOF, the Bears wouldn't be replacing him. I still have no clue how a guy can be the 3rd most fumble prone QB in NFL history and throw for 167 passing yards a game and the defense to him is that Joe Namath had a sub .500 record. Joe Namath wouldn't be 11-29 if he played for those Bears teams.



It's not about the shiny new toy, we gave Fields 3 years.

Come on, man. I'm not defending Fields with Joe Namath's record, I'm pointing out that QBs with a losing record aren't automatically trash as you've implied.

Look, I want the Bears to win and if that means drafting Caleb Williams, then I'm all in. Most Bears fans who support Fields are in that same boat. But the low level analysis of Fields' improvement, the stats-only analysis, and the hyperfocus on games won/lost in an era that Poles was literally tearing down the team and rebuilding is unfair. There is genuine support out there from players (past and present) who think Fields can be great given the right circumstances. His time is likely done in CHI, for better or worse, but let's not let our frustration with the TEAM/ORGANIZATION flow over into hatred of the guy.

 

[Statorama]

As it became more likely that they would draft Williams, I thought for sure that they would move him for someone else's money problem.

He's still got 2 years on his rookie deal. You don't "have" to trade him this year if you feel like you're getting pennies on the dollar.

A terrific backup is a pretty valuable thing to have.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

And teams let him run all over the place because the team is already down 2 scores and instead of running an NFL style no huddle, 4 minute offense he runs for a bunch of empty yards in losses.


If I was up 14 on the Bears, I'm letting idiot Fields run all over me while the clock continues to burn. Once he has to throw the ball, he'll just turn it over.

Take some emotion out of it as a fan
Your Bears have had a dearth of talent on both sides of the ball.
The OL has been atrocious. Too many times Fields has dropped back and not even been able to get to his second read, let alone his first.
Lack of wrs.....your argument for being down late in the game says more about the defense and overall lack of talent

Is Fields the next Manning? Doubtful.....but he can win and flourish with better talent and an ever improving game. He is getting better as his talent around him has gotten better. Gotta find the right system for this kid as well as talent and support. Someone will if not the Bears, especially if they trade him for a nickel

Man, I wish that was the case. But how many running QBs have succeeded in the last 20 years?


Vick and Jackson? I'll leave the thread after this post since people love a guy who doesn't win games, has thrown for 167 yards per game on average, and briefly held the record for most fumbles per game.



He is the caricature of everything people don't like about running Quarterbacks. Either way, come April 25, I never have to deal with this loser again. I hope your favorite team signs him so you can enjoy his 11-29 record and 167 yards a game. Enjoy how much potential he has as he continues to fumble and lose games.



Seacrest out.

Do you know Joe Namath's overall record? You know, the guy who's in the Hall of Fame? Won the Superbowl in 68? 66-70-4. His overall teams were crap after the Superbowl run and the record shows. Point being, football is a team sport and team record doesn't tell the entire story. Of course, most aren't interested in the nuance. It's all about the shiny new toy.

That's still a 48.5% win percentage. If Fields was anywhere near that, I wouldn't hate him. Fields win percentage is 27.5%.

Fields would need to win his next 16 games to have a 48.5% win percentage. What about the 167 yards passing per game or the fact that he fumbles the ball at the 3rd highest rate of any QB in league history. Is that the teams fault too?


I bet if he fumbled less and threw for more yards, the Bears would have lost less games.



Joe Namath is a HOF. If Fields was anyway resembling a HOF, the Bears wouldn't be replacing him. I still have no clue how a guy can be the 3rd most fumble prone QB in NFL history and throw for 167 passing yards a game and the defense to him is that Joe Namath had a sub .500 record. Joe Namath wouldn't be 11-29 if he played for those Bears teams.



It's not about the shiny new toy, we gave Fields 3 years.

Come on, man. I'm not defending Fields with Joe Namath's record, I'm pointing out that QBs with a losing record aren't automatically trash as you've implied.

Look, I want the Bears to win and if that means drafting Caleb Williams, then I'm all in. Most Bears fans who support Fields are in that same boat. But the low level analysis of Fields' improvement, the stats-only analysis, and the hyperfocus on games won/lost in an era that Poles was literally tearing down the team and rebuilding is unfair. There is genuine support out there from players (past and present) who think Fields can be great given the right circumstances. His time is likely done in CHI, for better or worse, but let's not let our frustration with the TEAM/ORGANIZATION flow over into hatred of the guy.

You're right, coach. Thanks for setting me straight, I appreciate your insight on this. I'm not going to argue with Iron Mike. You helped us win the Super Bowl back in 85!


Let's have a few beers and hangout in the Caleb Williams thread. BEAR DOWN!!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Look, I want the Bears to win and if that means drafting Caleb Williams, then I'm all in. Most Bears fans who support Fields are in that same boat. But the low level analysis of Fields' improvement, the stats-only analysis, and the hyperfocus on games won/lost in an era that Poles was literally tearing down the team and rebuilding is unfair. There is genuine support out there from players (past and present) who think Fields can be great given the right circumstances. His time is likely done in CHI, for better or worse, but let's not let our frustration with the TEAM/ORGANIZATION flow over into hatred of the guy.

This echoes many of my points.

Being hyperfocused on a handful of cherry-picked stats while ignoring the big picture of what the Bears were his 1st 2 seasons (and arguably his 3rd), does the player an extreme disservice.

Again, if the Bears draft Williams, and fail to address the interior OL, he will be similarly set up for failure. Then who will Bears fans blame? Probably somehow Fields. lol

 

[Ministry of Pain]

There may not be a market for this guy. Where could he go now? Everybody left is going to draft a qb.

I would prefer Fields to Darnold in Minnesota

Right! And that's why Chicago likely doesn't want to trade him to a Division opponent.
When I heard the Vikes signed Darnold, I thought I'd seen a ghost.
This is the same guy who played in New York and Carolina, all QBs that pass thru SF look better in those uniforms than almost any other team.
What I'm saying is I would be very happy if I were Detroit, Green Bay or Chicago and hearing Darnold is starting in Minnesota
Is that top dollar back up pay now? 8 figures
1-year deal, doesn't seem like either side is thinking long term here.
Like watching a couple walk down the aisle you know are headed for divorce sooner or later

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

All I know is if Fields has to play for Getsy again, it should be voided by the league as cruel and unusual punishment. I was hoping the Steelers got him, and am obviously a believer he can be better than what we've seen so far. But if he lands on the Raiders with Getsy, he may as well retire now IMO.

At least he'd have Adams & a few other quality WR to throw to. Also a very talented young TE.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Like watching a couple walk down the aisle you know are headed for divorce sooner or later

LOL - spot on.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

There may not be a market for this guy. Where could he go now? Everybody left is going to draft a qb.

I would prefer Fields to Darnold in Minnesota

Right! And that's why Chicago likely doesn't want to trade him to a Division opponent.
When I heard the Vikes signed Darnold, I thought I'd seen a ghost.
This is the same guy who played in New York and Carolina, all QBs that pass thru SF look better in those uniforms than almost any other team.
What I'm saying is I would be very happy if I were Detroit, Green Bay or Chicago and hearing Darnold is starting in Minnesota
Is that top dollar back up pay now? 8 figures
1-year deal, doesn't seem like either side is thinking long term here.
Like watching a couple walk down the aisle you know are headed for divorce sooner or later

There was talk of a Darnold/Zach Wilson pair in Minnesota and as a Bears fan that would make me absolutely ecstatic! I suspect that MIN will look at drafting one of the second tier QBs in this draft to develop while Darnold is out there taking hits and throwing interceptions.

 

[Capella]

Fields isn’t a fit for Minnesota’s offense at all. You could say Darnold isn’t fit for any nfl offense, and be correct, but still that isn’t the scheme for Fields.

 

[Grahamburn]

Advanced QB Statistics

Here's the link. Adjust the filter for pocket time. Justin Fields had the most (2.8 seconds) pocket time of ANY QB IN THE LEAGUE that played at least 50 snaps! The narrative that the Bears offensive line is somehow "atrocious" is just flat out false.

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't mobile QB's have a longer "pocket time". Lamar was at 2.7, Wilson 2.7, Stroud at 2.6, Hurts 2.6, . I guess i am just not sure what that pocket time really tells me.

Per Pro Football Reference, "pocket time" is "the number of seconds the quarterback was in the pocket between the snap of the ball and a pass or the collapse of the pocket." When looking at the quarterback rankings, the average quarterback time is roughly 2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds.

 

[eighsse2]

Advanced QB Statistics

Here's the link. Adjust the filter for pocket time. Justin Fields had the most (2.8 seconds) pocket time of ANY QB IN THE LEAGUE that played at least 50 snaps! The narrative that the Bears offensive line is somehow "atrocious" is just flat out false.

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't mobile QB's have a longer "pocket time". Lamar was at 2.7, Wilson 2.7, Stroud at 2.6, Hurts 2.6, . I guess i am just not sure what that pocket time really tells me.

Per Pro Football Reference, "pocket time" is "the number of seconds the quarterback was in the pocket between the snap of the ball and a pass or the collapse of the pocket." When looking at the quarterback rankings, the average quarterback time is roughly 2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds.

Ohh okay, so once one is flushed out of the pocket, whether a sack, a scramble, or an evade and eventual pass, "pocket time" has already ended.

 

[Grahamburn]

Advanced QB Statistics

Here's the link. Adjust the filter for pocket time. Justin Fields had the most (2.8 seconds) pocket time of ANY QB IN THE LEAGUE that played at least 50 snaps! The narrative that the Bears offensive line is somehow "atrocious" is just flat out false.

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't mobile QB's have a longer "pocket time". Lamar was at 2.7, Wilson 2.7, Stroud at 2.6, Hurts 2.6, . I guess i am just not sure what that pocket time really tells me.

Per Pro Football Reference, "pocket time" is "the number of seconds the quarterback was in the pocket between the snap of the ball and a pass or the collapse of the pocket." When looking at the quarterback rankings, the average quarterback time is roughly 2.4 seconds to 2.5 seconds.

Ohh okay, so once one is flushed out of the pocket, whether a sack, a scramble, or an evade and eventual pass, "pocket time" has already ended.

Correct.

 

[massraider]

Hey if Aaron Rodgers becomes vice president, I think we have a team fit

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hey if Aaron Rodgers becomes vice president, I think we have a team fit

That’s somehow one of the least controversial things said in this topic.

 

[Mitchie]

As it became more likely that they would draft Williams, I thought for sure that they would move him for someone else's money problem.

He's still got 2 years on his rookie deal. You don't "have" to trade him this year if you feel like you're getting pennies on the dollar.

A terrific backup is a pretty valuable thing to have.

isn't it one year and then like 20 something mill for the 5th yr option?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Rappaport saying the Bears are doing their due diligence on Williams, and until they’re sold on him, they won’t move Fields.


Seems like a goofy way to go about this, if it’s even true.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

As it became more likely that they would draft Williams, I thought for sure that they would move him for someone else's money problem.

He's still got 2 years on his rookie deal. You don't "have" to trade him this year if you feel like you're getting pennies on the dollar.

A terrific backup is a pretty valuable thing to have.

isn't it one year and then like 20 something mill for the 5th yr option?

He is 6 million this year and the 5th year option is around 22 million or in that ball park give or take.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Rappaport saying the Bears are doing their due diligence on Williams, and until they’re sold on him, they won’t move Fields.


Seems like a goofy way to go about this, if it’s even true.

Poles should have just said nothing at the combine. We want to do right by Justin so he is not in the gray.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Rappaport saying the Bears are doing their due diligence on Williams, and until they’re sold on him, they won’t move Fields.


Seems like a goofy way to go about this, if it’s even true.

Poles should have just said nothing at the combine. We want to do right by Justin so he is not in the gray.

His personal workout is in a week-ish.

That’s a long time to leave Fields in the wind.

But to teams like the Pats, Raiders, Broncos and maybe even the Vikings, they have “temp”’ solutions In place so it’s not like it’s completely settled.

maybe it’ll be a trade during the draft.

Still a crappy way to handle it. Bears should figure it out and move on.

 

[Faust]

Frelund: Justin Fields would add 4.3 projected win shares to Raiders | 'Free Agency Frenzy'

 

[Grahamburn]

Frelund: Justin Fields would add 4.3 projected win shares to Raiders | 'Free Agency Frenzy'

I think Cynthia may need to work on this algorithm a bit more.

 

[Mitchie]

Rappaport saying the Bears are doing their due diligence on Williams, and until they’re sold on him, they won’t move Fields.


Seems like a goofy way to go about this, if it’s even true.

Poles should have just said nothing at the combine. We want to do right by Justin so he is not in the gray.

His personal workout is in a week-ish.

That’s a long time to leave Fields in the wind.

But to teams like the Pats, Raiders, Broncos and maybe even the Vikings, they have “temp”’ solutions In place so it’s not like it’s completely settled.

maybe it’ll be a trade during the draft.

Still a crappy way to handle it. Bears should figure it out and move on.

I'd be pretty surprised if a team who put a 'temp' solution also went after Fields. Those teams are setting themselves up to draft someone if not in 1st than in 2nd or a trade up into back of 1st. In other years Fields would have more of a market but unfortunately for him and the Bears there's a high # of QBs available in the draft.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

If you're the Bears it is not the common way of bringing a new QB in and is not ideal but if the market is that low for Fields then maybe keep him on the 6 million this year under the umbrella of competing for the starting job with Williams keep him through the draft and camp if need be perhaps there is an injury elsewhere and discuss trading him. You can keep the leverage on the first overall pick and keep it in-house but 6 million for a backup and insurance for Williams not being ready or the unexpected happens down the road you have a pretty solid plan B.

Justin should be okay with it if he is only being traded to be a backup somewhere else. He can stay in Chicago and both can wait for a better market later perhaps an injury or someone misses out on their big swing in the draft. I think some teams are getting QBs they do not have to give any compensation for and keeping options open for bigger moves.

OR there is a possibility Chicago is keeping Fields. I do not believe this is the case but you never know.

 

[pinkstapler]

All I know is if Fields has to play for Getsy again, it should be voided by the league as cruel and unusual punishment. I was hoping the Steelers got him, and am obviously a believer he can be better than what we've seen so far. But if he lands on the Raiders with Getsy, he may as well retire now IMO.

At least he'd have Adams & a few other quality WR to throw to. Also a very talented young TE.

Yeah, certainly a valid optimistic view on it. I was just watching Fields tape again recently as I have a dynasty league converting to SF, and seeing what Getsy did week 2 when Chicago was down 3 with 3 minutes left, calling the same exact screen pass 3 ******** plays in a row inside their own 10 yard line with no time outs left had me punching air. Especially considering the last drive Fields went 6/6 with a TD throwing deep... This is also the same game they called 1, ONE, designed run for him. I don't understand how he's currently employed tbh. Fields is no hero, but will likely get work because QBs are in such short supply. OCs are not. Mind boggling.

It's obvious Fields needs work, and a lot of that needs to come from good coaching and situational play calling. I think we have almost 1.5 seasons of proof Getsy is not the guy for that in the slightest. More maddeningly, after half a season in 2022 of actually seeming to right the ship and tailor things around him. There were many times last season it looked to my untrained eye he was actively working against Fields strengths in his play calling, putting him in situations only a handful of QBs in the league could talent their way out of. Frustrating that should the two link yet again, and Fields fails, it will once again be squarely placed on his shoulders despite being pretty much set up for failure.

TLDR: IMO Getsy = Canada for offenses with developmental QBs.

 

[Faust]

First Take
.@AdamSchefter doesn't know if there's a starting job for Justin Fields at this moment

"The teams that are looking at him would be looking at him as a backup."

https://x.com/firsttake/status/1767568855294005501?s=61

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

Alternatively, at some point a QB is going to get hurt. Remember how bad it was last year?


Bears can probably wait until somebody goes down and get fair compensation for him. It's the start of the year, everyone has leverage because all their players are healthy and they can still draft a QB.


Remember the "Passtronaut" from last season? If I'm Chicago, I'm taking nothing less than a 3rd Rounder now or I'm taking the comp pick later. They really have no reason to rush as Fields' value is lower now than it'll be for a few months pre draft. But once people miss out on a QB and/or theirs gets hurt, suddenly Justin becomes the best option available to "save their season".



The Browns, Bengals, Jets, and Vikings would have all been interested in Fields last year after their starter went down.

 

[pinkstapler]

Alternatively, at some point a QB is going to get hurt. Remember how bad it was last year?


Bears can probably wait until somebody goes down and get fair compensation for him. It's the start of the year, everyone has leverage because all their players are healthy and they can still draft a QB.


Remember the "Passtronaut" from last season? If I'm Chicago, I'm taking nothing less than a 3rd Rounder now or I'm taking the comp pick later. They really have no reason to rush as Fields' value is lower now than it'll be for a few months pre draft. But once people miss out on a QB and/or theirs gets hurt, suddenly Justin becomes the best option available to "save their season".



The Browns, Bengals, Jets, and Vikings would have all been interested in Fields last year after their starter went down.

Off topic, but I honestly think this is more or less what Flacco is doing too, just for different reasons. Why in the hell would he want to sign with a team now and have to suffer through training camp and practices? And likely have very little room for negotiating. He can sit comfortably on his couch at home, and wait for the inevitable phone call when another team loses a starter. And then also be in a better spot to make financial/other demands when a team is basically dead in the water without a quality backup. It does seem he fell in love with the Browns and the city of Cleveland, but outside of getting a contract with them, I don't think he's going to sign on with anyone until a starting job opens up due to injury once the season is already underway.

 

[Big Nate]

Alternatively, at some point a QB is going to get hurt. Remember how bad it was last year?


Bears can probably wait until somebody goes down and get fair compensation for him. It's the start of the year, everyone has leverage because all their players are healthy and they can still draft a QB.


Remember the "Passtronaut" from last season? If I'm Chicago, I'm taking nothing less than a 3rd Rounder now or I'm taking the comp pick later. They really have no reason to rush as Fields' value is lower now than it'll be for a few months pre draft. But once people miss out on a QB and/or theirs gets hurt, suddenly Justin becomes the best option available to "save their season".



The Browns, Bengals, Jets, and Vikings would have all been interested in Fields last year after their starter went down.

Off topic, but I honestly think this is more or less what Flacco is doing too, just for different reasons. Why in the hell would he want to sign with a team now and have to suffer through training camp and practices? And likely have very little room for negotiating. He can sit comfortably on his couch at home, and wait for the inevitable phone call when another team loses a starter. And then also be in a better spot to make financial/other demands when a team is basically dead in the water without a quality backup. It does seem he fell in love with the Browns and the city of Cleveland, but outside of getting a contract with them, I don't think he's going to sign on with anyone until a starting job opens up due to injury once the season is already underway.

Yep, it is smart. He made $2.5M for playing 5 regular season games with some bonus money tossed in there to for wins. He will do it again this year and be able to pick the right landing spot that will work for him

 

[Hankmoody]

Remember the "Passtronaut" from last season? If I'm Chicago, I'm taking nothing less than a 3rd Rounder now or I'm taking the comp pick later. They really have no reason to rush as Fields' value is lower now than it'll be for a few months pre draft. But once people miss out on a QB and/or theirs gets hurt, suddenly Justin becomes the best option available to "save their season".

They would have to decline his 5th year and then somehow, after drafting Williams, have Fields play (well) enough to get a big contract in 2026, and not sign anyone of impact next offseason that would cancel it out, all in the chase for a 2026 pick?

That is not their plan.

 

[Faust]

What next for QB Justin Fields: Landing spots and options after trade market cools

 

[beef]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

 

[ghostguy123]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

it aint gonna happen fast. Not if there's no other suiters.
LV gonna lowball, Chicago gonna want a 1st.
I still think he gets moved for the value of a mid 2nd

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

it aint gonna happen fast. Not if there's no other suiters.
LV gonna lowball, Chicago gonna want a 1st.
I still think he gets moved for the value of a mid 2nd

Signing Minshew and then trading for Fields makes zero sense. Minshew is making borderline starter salary. You just don't trade a 2nd (or 3rd) for a guy who's gonna sit on your bench for the year and then go into free agency. If they were planning to trade for Fields then they would have signed Rypien or some such then put the plan in place to make the trade sooner rather than later.

 

[Faust]

Justin Fields’ market has only reinforced Ryan Poles’ likely QB decision

Justin Fields Rumors: 'No Inclination' Bears Won't Trade QB and Draft Caleb Williams

 

[Loipz]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

it aint gonna happen fast. Not if there's no other suiters.
LV gonna lowball, Chicago gonna want a 1st.
I still think he gets moved for the value of a mid 2nd

Signing Minshew and then trading for Fields makes zero sense. Minshew is making borderline starter salary. You just don't trade a 2nd (or 3rd) for a guy who's gonna sit on your bench for the year and then go into free agency. If they were planning to trade for Fields then they would have signed Rypien or some such then put the plan in place to make the trade sooner rather than later.

Minshew is better than Fields anyways.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Seattle seems like such a no brainer. They should have jumped on this a month ago.

 

[JohnnyU]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

it aint gonna happen fast. Not if there's no other suiters.
LV gonna lowball, Chicago gonna want a 1st.
I still think he gets moved for the value of a mid 2nd

Signing Minshew and then trading for Fields makes zero sense. Minshew is making borderline starter salary. You just don't trade a 2nd (or 3rd) for a guy who's gonna sit on your bench for the year and then go into free agency. If they were planning to trade for Fields then they would have signed Rypien or some such then put the plan in place to make the trade sooner rather than later.

Minshew is better than Fields anyways.

Not for fantasy and that's what I care about.

 

[Major]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

it aint gonna happen fast. Not if there's no other suiters.
LV gonna lowball, Chicago gonna want a 1st.
I still think he gets moved for the value of a mid 2nd

Signing Minshew and then trading for Fields makes zero sense. Minshew is making borderline starter salary. You just don't trade a 2nd (or 3rd) for a guy who's gonna sit on your bench for the year and then go into free agency. If they were planning to trade for Fields then they would have signed Rypien or some such then put the plan in place to make the trade sooner rather than later.

Yep. No chance he goes to Vegas.

 

[Major]

Seattle seems like such a no brainer. They should have jumped on this a month ago.

Unless the Bears are asking for a ridiculous bounty, It's strange that there are no suitors. NFL insiders must know something we don't. I get it's a division rival and everything but not even Minnesota? They're so bare at the position. Sucks for Fields.

 

[ghostguy123]

Seattle seems like such a no brainer. They should have jumped on this a month ago.

Unless the Bears are asking for a ridiculous bounty, It's strange that there are no suitors. NFL insiders must know something we don't. I get it's a division rival and everything but not even Minnesota? They're so bare at the position. Sucks for Fields.

If they think Fields sucks them they SHOULD trade him to the Vikes

 

[travdogg]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

it aint gonna happen fast. Not if there's no other suiters.
LV gonna lowball, Chicago gonna want a 1st.
I still think he gets moved for the value of a mid 2nd

Signing Minshew and then trading for Fields makes zero sense. Minshew is making borderline starter salary. You just don't trade a 2nd (or 3rd) for a guy who's gonna sit on your bench for the year and then go into free agency. If they were planning to trade for Fields then they would have signed Rypien or some such then put the plan in place to make the trade sooner rather than later.

Minshew is better than Fields anyways.

Shane Steichen is better than Luke Getsy, that's for sure.

Seattle seems like such a no brainer. They should have jumped on this a month ago.

Unless the Bears are asking for a ridiculous bounty, It's strange that there are no suitors. NFL insiders must know something we don't. I get it's a division rival and everything but not even Minnesota? They're so bare at the position. Sucks for Fields.

I think its entirely possible the Bears are still very much debating keeping Fields and trading down, especially as QB spots get filled, and teams get more desperate.

Also could see the Bears truly believing he's worth at least a 2nd rounder and refusing to budge. Though, logically, if you think that, then you don't really need to replace him, and should probably just stick with him.

 

[Major]

Seattle seems like such a no brainer. They should have jumped on this a month ago.

Unless the Bears are asking for a ridiculous bounty, It's strange that there are no suitors. NFL insiders must know something we don't. I get it's a division rival and everything but not even Minnesota? They're so bare at the position. Sucks for Fields.

If they think Fields sucks them they SHOULD trade him to the Vikes

It could be that the rest of the NFL thinks he sucks and unwilling to give anything more than a 3-4th round pick. Supply/Demand hurting his value as well.

 

[menobrown]

Just make the deal with the Raiders already

it aint gonna happen fast. Not if there's no other suiters.
LV gonna lowball, Chicago gonna want a 1st.
I still think he gets moved for the value of a mid 2nd

Signing Minshew and then trading for Fields makes zero sense. Minshew is making borderline starter salary. You just don't trade a 2nd (or 3rd) for a guy who's gonna sit on your bench for the year and then go into free agency. If they were planning to trade for Fields then they would have signed Rypien or some such then put the plan in place to make the trade sooner rather than later.

Minshew is better than Fields anyways.

Getsy no doubt feels that way, I mean no doubt feels that way.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Dallas might soon be in the market for a starter. Fields, Lance or Rush? This Dak sexual assault case starting to grow some legs. It's like the boy scout at camp trying to light a fire with some tinder and flint. He is working hard and there are some whisps of smoke.

 

[massraider]

It could be that the rest of the NFL thinks he sucks and unwilling to give anything more than a 3-4th round pick. Supply/Demand hurting his value as well.

Yeah, maybe start believing the rest of the NFL, when the rest of the NFL isn't interested.

If I am the owner, I tell my coaches, Fields and Caleb that Fields is staying, for now. I am not trying to hear that it's some impossible situation. Hey, coaches, work it out. Hey Fields, you wanna play? Beat out Caleb. Come in and compete, and if we can trade you, we will. Otherwise, you'll be free next year.

They might be forced to keep him, and maybe he's helpful down the road.

 

[menobrown]

Dallas might soon be in the market for a starter. Fields, Lance or Rush? This Dak sexual assault case starting to grow some legs. It's like the boy scout at camp trying to light a fire with some tinder and flint. He is working hard and there are some whisps of smoke.

Case is from 2017 and Dak has countersued, don't think there is anything to see here.