Not bothered. Took him in 3 leagues as Fantasy Pros had him ranked higher and their rankings have been better these days
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QB Justin Fields, NYJ (6 Viewers)
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Well for your paying subscribers that use your sync, you had him as QB18 in all of my leagues. Big miss it seems there.You sync any league up (even with the most standard settings), and it has him at QB18 Both draft dominators also have him at QB18 with 1 for 25, 4/td. At 6/td it drops him even more.
A few things.
1. I normally like to wait until Week 1 is fully complete before victory lapping season-long predictions. But that's just me.
2. We had Fields ranked as our QB11 in our preseason draft rankings. Part of doing what we do the way we do it is our predictions are public. Plenty of opportunities for the "Told you so" crowd but that's life. We'll miss on plenty of things this season I'm sure. A tad early I think to claim we missed already at QB11. But thanks.
3. One of our largest competitors, Fantasy Pros, had him as QB12 for season long draft rankings.
Will be fun to see how this plays out.
You have him at 286.67 points, which puts him 18th of all the QBs you have ranked.
We will see how it plays out but so far looks like he will be much higher than the 286 (18th most) points FBG projected him for.
He's our QB11 in default settings. That's publc record and documented.
And to be clear, our rankings are where we rank the players for a draft list. Not a numerical list of total points.
There are lots of factors behind the scenes in addition to total points that go into our rankings. Upside potential being one. Games played is another. It's why Brandon Aiyuk can be our WR56 and projected to score fewer points than players he's ranked ahead of.
Again, I'm sure we'll miss on players. And there will always be folks anxious to point that out. It's life. But for now, I feel ok with having told our audience we ranked Fields as our QB11.
We'll see.
He's ranked QB 11 in default scoring as I've linked to and shown repeatedly. I've no doubt in other scoring systems he could be lower based on our projections. Sounds like that's the case for your leagues.
And again, I usually wait a few more weeks before declaring season long projections big misses. But I understand others may not.
Back to work here. You're welcome to have the last word.
It's fine. Just part of life with doing this in public for some folks. All good.
dkp993
Footballguy
Well for your paying subscribers that use your sync, you had him as QB18 in all of my leagues. Big miss it seems there.You sync any league up (even with the most standard settings), and it has him at QB18 Both draft dominators also have him at QB18 with 1 for 25, 4/td. At 6/td it drops him even more.
A few things.
1. I normally like to wait until Week 1 is fully complete before victory lapping season-long predictions. But that's just me.
2. We had Fields ranked as our QB11 in our preseason draft rankings. Part of doing what we do the way we do it is our predictions are public. Plenty of opportunities for the "Told you so" crowd but that's life. We'll miss on plenty of things this season I'm sure. A tad early I think to claim we missed already at QB11. But thanks.
3. One of our largest competitors, Fantasy Pros, had him as QB12 for season long draft rankings.
Will be fun to see how this plays out.
You have him at 286.67 points, which puts him 18th of all the QBs you have ranked.
We will see how it plays out but so far looks like he will be much higher than the 286 (18th most) points FBG projected him for.
He's our QB11 in default settings. That's publc record and documented.
And to be clear, our rankings are where we rank the players for a draft list. Not a numerical list of total points.
There are lots of factors behind the scenes in addition to total points that go into our rankings. Upside potential being one. Games played is another. It's why Brandon Aiyuk can be our WR56 and projected to score fewer points than players he's ranked ahead of.
Again, I'm sure we'll miss on players. And there will always be folks anxious to point that out. It's life. But for now, I feel ok with having told our audience we ranked Fields as our QB11.
We'll see.
He's ranked QB 11 in default scoring as I've linked to and shown repeatedly. I've no doubt in other scoring systems he could be lower based on our projections. Sounds like that's the case for your leagues.
And again, I usually wait a few more weeks before declaring season long projections big misses. But I understand others may not.
Back to work here. You're welcome to have the last word.
This was certainly not the conversation I meant to spark. When I made my comment I was referring to posters here commenting, not any rankings or people doing them. To me, and I can’t stress those 2 last words enough, it’s strange people who follow fantasy football still need to be convinced, when playing, he’s a top 10 FF QB. His rushing upside is as high as it comes. That’s pure gold for a QB.
Well for your paying subscribers that use your sync, you had him as QB18 in all of my leagues. Big miss it seems there.You sync any league up (even with the most standard settings), and it has him at QB18 Both draft dominators also have him at QB18 with 1 for 25, 4/td. At 6/td it drops him even more.
A few things.
1. I normally like to wait until Week 1 is fully complete before victory lapping season-long predictions. But that's just me.
2. We had Fields ranked as our QB11 in our preseason draft rankings. Part of doing what we do the way we do it is our predictions are public. Plenty of opportunities for the "Told you so" crowd but that's life. We'll miss on plenty of things this season I'm sure. A tad early I think to claim we missed already at QB11. But thanks.
3. One of our largest competitors, Fantasy Pros, had him as QB12 for season long draft rankings.
Will be fun to see how this plays out.
You have him at 286.67 points, which puts him 18th of all the QBs you have ranked.
We will see how it plays out but so far looks like he will be much higher than the 286 (18th most) points FBG projected him for.
He's our QB11 in default settings. That's publc record and documented.
And to be clear, our rankings are where we rank the players for a draft list. Not a numerical list of total points.
There are lots of factors behind the scenes in addition to total points that go into our rankings. Upside potential being one. Games played is another. It's why Brandon Aiyuk can be our WR56 and projected to score fewer points than players he's ranked ahead of.
Again, I'm sure we'll miss on players. And there will always be folks anxious to point that out. It's life. But for now, I feel ok with having told our audience we ranked Fields as our QB11.
We'll see.
He's ranked QB 11 in default scoring as I've linked to and shown repeatedly. I've no doubt in other scoring systems he could be lower based on our projections. Sounds like that's the case for your leagues.
And again, I usually wait a few more weeks before declaring season long projections big misses. But I understand others may not.
Back to work here. You're welcome to have the last word.
This was certainly not the conversation I meant to spark. When I made my comment I was referring to posters here commenting, not any rankings or people doing them. To me, and I can’t stress those 2 last words enough, it’s strange people who follow fantasy football still need to be convinced, when playing, he’s a top 10 FF QB. His rushing upside is as high as it comes. That’s pure gold for a QB.
No worries. All good. I do think some scoring systems affect this. But the bigger thing is the age old thing - lots of people have different opinions and that's part of what makes all this fun.
Willie Mays Hayes
Footballguy
Well for your paying subscribers that use your sync, you had him as QB18 in all of my leagues. Big miss it seems there.You sync any league up (even with the most standard settings), and it has him at QB18 Both draft dominators also have him at QB18 with 1 for 25, 4/td. At 6/td it drops him even more.
A few things.
1. I normally like to wait until Week 1 is fully complete before victory lapping season-long predictions. But that's just me.
2. We had Fields ranked as our QB11 in our preseason draft rankings. Part of doing what we do the way we do it is our predictions are public. Plenty of opportunities for the "Told you so" crowd but that's life. We'll miss on plenty of things this season I'm sure. A tad early I think to claim we missed already at QB11. But thanks.
3. One of our largest competitors, Fantasy Pros, had him as QB12 for season long draft rankings.
Will be fun to see how this plays out.
You have him at 286.67 points, which puts him 18th of all the QBs you have ranked.
We will see how it plays out but so far looks like he will be much higher than the 286 (18th most) points FBG projected him for.
He's our QB11 in default settings. That's publc record and documented.
And to be clear, our rankings are where we rank the players for a draft list. Not a numerical list of total points.
There are lots of factors behind the scenes in addition to total points that go into our rankings. Upside potential being one. Games played is another. It's why Brandon Aiyuk can be our WR56 and projected to score fewer points than players he's ranked ahead of.
Again, I'm sure we'll miss on players. And there will always be folks anxious to point that out. It's life. But for now, I feel ok with having told our audience we ranked Fields as our QB11.
We'll see.
He's ranked QB 11 in default scoring as I've linked to and shown repeatedly. I've no doubt in other scoring systems he could be lower based on our projections. Sounds like that's the case for your leagues.
And again, I usually wait a few more weeks before declaring season long projections big misses. But I understand others may not.
Back to work here. You're welcome to have the last word.
This was certainly not the conversation I meant to spark. When I made my comment I was referring to posters here commenting, not any rankings or people doing them. To me, and I can’t stress those 2 last words enough, it’s strange people who follow fantasy football still need to be convinced, when playing, he’s a top 10 FF QB. His rushing upside is as high as it comes. That’s pure gold for a QB.
No worries. All good. I do think some scoring systems affect this. But the bigger thing is the age old thing - lots of people have different opinions and that's part of what makes all this fun.
If you listened to the analysis of Ryan Heath, Fields has as high of a fantasy points per dropback as Jayden Daniels. Honestly, there is a lot of bias against Fields as a player but as far as fantasy goes, this dude is money. Tomlin screwed Fields over last year but there was no way he deserved to get benched for over-cooked Russell Wilson.
rockaction
Footballguy
Man, I hope this was the guy the Jets should have drafted all along. He did say some weird stuff about scoring a bunch of points yesterday and I don't think he fully gets it totally (that's my own take and I really don't want to debate it too hotly, so please don't focus on it) but if he puts a ton of work into making himself and what he can control the best it can be and those are the results? Against a D like Pittsburgh?
Well then sign me up to eat my own hat because I was wrong. Let's go JF, we're all pulling for you in Jets land.
And this guy is FF gold. The only question was whether he would stick as a full-time QB, and that was a legitimate question.
Well then sign me up to eat my own hat because I was wrong. Let's go JF, we're all pulling for you in Jets land.
And this guy is FF gold. The only question was whether he would stick as a full-time QB, and that was a legitimate question.
Big Nate
Footballguy
I traded for him last year after he got benched for Russ (even though he was playing decent in the first 6 weeks for PIT). I took a gamble knowing he would get a shot to start somewhere, sometime. But your last question was always on my mind - would he, and could he keep a full time job and not get benched again. He took a step forward this year and in game 1 did well. I will admit I'm still a bit nervous about him keeping a starting job but right now his value in fantasy is rising which is fantastic due to his rushing upside.
For those still not sold at least you have a sell window now, especially in SF leagues. For me, I'm riding this guy for now.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Damn, as I typed this "riding this guy for now" I got an unsolicited offer I'm not sure I can turn down. I'd love to hold and be part of this "entertaining" ride this year but if there is value to be had - much more than I paid, I might have to ship him off - even as I am contending.
I guess the question with Fields is - lock in the value and make additional moves later if needed or ride the wave this year....
Willie Mays Hayes
Footballguy
There have only been 4 QB seasons with 1,000+ rushing from the position. Lamar Jackson (x 2), Michael Vick and Justin Fields in 2022. If Glenn can get his defense where it needs to be in terms of keeping a running-friendly game script, we could see a 1,000 yard rushing season from Fields.
dkp993
Footballguy
I would go so far to say that’s a lock, with one qualification. He remains the starter all year. If he does, the way the Jets want to play, 1000 rush and 10 rushing TD’s seems like a no brainer.
And that's been the big factor in his season long rankings. Fantasy Football is one thing and he clearly scores lots of points. But he's proven he's had trouble holding on to the starting job as a real NFL QB. And without that, there are no fantasy points.
It's the huge difference for him between weekly rankings and season long.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
But Fields isn’t in danger of losing his job ti Taylor. Not happening.
Agreed. Fields has complete job security. If he doesn't play 17 games, its because of injury, not performance.
dkp993
Footballguy
Until last weeks performance that was a real worry, agreed it isn’t any longer.
Was it? I feel like he was getting 17 games the second the Jets signed him.
dkp993
Footballguy
I kept him this year so I too was optimistic, but the camp reports were pretty awful and if what was being sad ended up translating to the regular season the odds increased significantly imo.
rockaction
Footballguy
The reports out of camp were dismal. He was apparently terrible. I mean, I don't know. There isn't a guy who knows football on Twitter that didn't watch the Jets' film from Sunday that wasn't blown away by the game Tanner Engstrom called and that Fields played. They're giddy. There are all these Detroit superfans that are legit upset that he left Detroit and they're saying that Campbell hired the wrong guy to be OC. It's not a joke. They're serious. If I were Pittsburgh, I'd look at Rodgers's 4.5 aDOT and actually feel sick.
But this came out of nowhere. Nobody in the Jets press was writing anything like this. The preseason meant so little. Braelon Allen went 6-9 on Sunday and an advanced stats guy who charted him this preseason said he didn't break one tackle the whole time so the guy couldn't figure out where all this smoke was coming from. They were worried about Membou. Writing about him negatively. He gave up zero pressures to T.J. Watt.
That's absurd.
Truly bizarre for the Jets.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Don't say that. I've got both in the football guys league and I don't know what to do.
It seems like the people highly critical and negative of Fields are the ones that have a difficult time separating fantasy from “real football.”
Fields has one of the safest floors out there, and a ceiling that falls only below Allen and Lamar. I’ll take that gamble every single week on a guy I got with the last pick or for free off the waiver wire.
I don’t know if Fields will be a league winner, but I’m confident he won’t lose it for you.
Fields has one of the safest floors out there, and a ceiling that falls only below Allen and Lamar. I’ll take that gamble every single week on a guy I got with the last pick or for free off the waiver wire.
I don’t know if Fields will be a league winner, but I’m confident he won’t lose it for you.
Yeah we have never seen Fields will a full fantasy season. Even the season he ran for 1100 yards they didn’t let him run until like week 5 or something, and were trying to force him to play a certain way. That was also with the worst coaches and supporting cast in recent years
Excited to see what he can do !!
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mjb03003
Footballguy
Fields is one of those guys that I prefer not to watch live or even follow the box score/play-by-play because he'll often go into half with a line like 6 for 11 passing for 54 yards and 0 TDs, and I'm pulling my hair out wondering why I kept this guy in the lineup. And then in the 2nd half he'll throw for a score and run for another and man it isn't always pretty in real life, but he finds a way to 15 points more often than not, and his big games are more like 30. There's only a handful of guys who you can really say that about.
Watch the highlights from the game last week. He didn't look like that at all. He looked great. Passes were crisp, and accurate (He has always been very accurate, just struggled with anticipating routes of course). He was making good decisions, keep drives alive, keeping his eyes downfield, and running when it made sense. They were in command of that game and honestly should have won.
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mjb03003
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Watch the highlights from the game last week. He didn't look like that at all. He looked great. Passes were crisp, and accurate (He has also been very accurate). He was making good decisions, keep drives alive, keeping his eyes downfield, and running when it made sense. They were in command of that game and honestly should have won.
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I like everything I've seen and heard so far from week 1. I'm really excited to see if he can keep it rolling in week 2!
Runkle
Footballguy
"Blake Bortles"
How do give this nugget and then not say what that offer was?
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Agreed. I'm curious. I got Fields in one league and the idea of moving him crossed my mind. Can't decide.
I got Fields in a couple leagues. One I have Mahomes too. I am shopping Mahomes.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Interesting. My one Fields league. Cough cough. League Uno. I also have Mahomes. Feels kinda nice to own both. I'm actually leaning Fields this week over my boy Patrick
LawFitz
Footballguy
Glad to see Fields back on track to become the next Jalen Hurts. Dude has always been over-flamed for his shortcomings, and massively undervalued in terms of his unique strengths. Sadly I have no shares this year - in decent part due to me buying into the negative-nelly discussion around him this preseason. I should have known better.
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Great video about Fields QB play over the years and essentially highlighting how much an awful situation with the Bears organization impacted his play, and can/would impact any QB's play negatively.
I was shocked they cut offseason starter Tyler Johnson but they signed him to the PS and elevated him and he then got signed.
He made a play or two when they needed it including blocks.
Glenn has said some quotes lately about mistakes that cost the team.
He cut Tyler for no reason.
What's he gonna do when Fields makes a couple mistakes?
He made a play or two when they needed it including blocks.
Glenn has said some quotes lately about mistakes that cost the team.
He cut Tyler for no reason.
What's he gonna do when Fields makes a couple mistakes?
QB?
massraider
Footballguy
Fields just needed to get to a top flight organization that had the infrastructure and history of player development to allow his talents to bloom.
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Jets shockingly cut potential starting wide receiver in roster stunner
The New York Jets have shockingly released wide receiver Tyler Johnson after Wednesday's waiver claims. Johnson was potentially in line to start at WR.
thejetpress.com
Jets release WR Tyler Johnson in shocking roster decision
Johnson signed a one-year, $1.4 million contract with the Jets this spring and was expected to play a key role in the team's wide receiver rotation. In theory, that's still possible, as the Jets could realistically bring him back at some point.
I'm not sure I understand the miscommunication? Justin Fields is a starting NFL QB, his leash is infinitely longer than a fringe roster player.Still no reply
Jets shockingly cut potential starting wide receiver in roster stunner
The New York Jets have shockingly released wide receiver Tyler Johnson after Wednesday's waiver claims. Johnson was potentially in line to start at WR.
Jets release WR Tyler Johnson in shocking roster decision
Johnson signed a one-year, $1.4 million contract with the Jets this spring and was expected to play a key role in the team's wide receiver rotation. In theory, that's still possible, as the Jets could realistically bring him back at some point.
Yeah honestly I didn't understand that move either. Wilson was definitely not going to win them anything last year, and than just letting Fields go didn't make sense either. Who knows maybe they think he will get hurt because of his style of play long-term ?
BoltNlava
Footballguy
Now he will really try to stay alive just to spite you.
Could you imagine if the Jets beat the Bills ??? Would be mayhem. All week long we would hear about how bad the Bears organization was, and how the Steelers made a "mistake" last season
This coming after a whole off-season of everyone in the media saying how Fields can't pass... the media is so wack
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
Is the Bills' defense that bad? Is Justin Fields that good? The first 3 weeks of the season is so difficult to understand when the teams themselves are figuring who they are.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Starting him over Mahomes. Giddy up.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Passing? We don't need no stinking passing.
