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QB Marcus Mariota, WAS (2 Viewers)
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The Big Donkey
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Im hoping you rolled the dice and went with Marcus. 2qb league here also, i sat mccown and flacco for a Monday night miracle from Marcus.
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mr roboto
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Tommy Collins
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He does have an intriguing matchup this week. His hamstring is still clearly bothering him, which makes it easier on the defenses as they don't need to have a spy. But what was said during the broadcast makes sense. I remember when McNabb was a scrambler until he got hurt and learned that he could make the throws from the pocket. This could potentially do the same thing for Mariota. Regardless, he looked good throwing the ball. He didn't seem to have 100% of his throwing power as he didn't seem to be able to drive off his legs completely. Perhaps I was reading into it too much. But he did well after a very slow start. Let us hope he makes it through the Cleveland game without further injury and comes back 100% after the bye.
The Browns sort of break near the end. They're not bad on D. Jason McCourty is playing out of his mind good and they've got some pass rushers. It's like if the game is out of reach they've got some quit in them but the rest of the time they're pretty good on D.
Mariota seemed a bit off being "stuck" in the pocket. On that INT, a typical Mariota would have ran laterally and hit Murray. The slides were obvious. I think he just needed to get comfy. Decker is also a big part of it. He hasn't done well and has received a bunch of targets this year. Now that he's looking good, Mariota should. It's a drive killer when a main WR doesn't catch the ball, get open, drops it etc.
I wouldn't predict super high Mariota stats because they're the Browns. They're pretty good on D
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Utterly and completely and pretty much single-handed my killed me this weekend.
I get that even what looks like a juicy matchup goes awry in an Any Given Sunday league, but what happened here?
One week aberration or signs of things that will persist?
I get that even what looks like a juicy matchup goes awry in an Any Given Sunday league, but what happened here?
One week aberration or signs of things that will persist?
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Zero chatter on Mariota since October. Wow.
Bringing it up now as I still have concerns. Mariota and the Titans have some super-juicy matchups coming up after facing PIT this weekend -- IND, HOU, ARI (depending on which ARI team shows up), SF.
Since coming back from injury in week 5, Mariota has been a little pedestrian.
Week 6 he hung 300+ against IND, with 1:1 TD/INT. 18.74 points in my league's scoring. I'll take it.
Week 7 he faced a CLE team ready to be dismantled, and barely cracked 200 with 0 TDs. 8.92 FP in my league (FPiml)
Week 9 after the bye, Mariota only threw for 218 against a BAL team that is ripe for beating, but threw for 2 TDs which luckily saved an otherwise mediocre performance (17.82 FPiml)
Week 10 against CIN, 264 yards with 1 TD 1 INT -- respectable 19.16 FPiml, but it's not like the CIN D has been the stalwart force they have been in the past. Liked, however, that they took off the reins on Marcus's rush attempts, and he had 6 for 51 on the day.
So what should we expect for these juicy matchups coming up?
Would love to believe that this is a team that is trending in the right direction but given past performance, not really sure if Mariota is as dependable an option as I'd like facing some cake teams in the next few weeks.
What say you -- are you relying on Mariota without questions for this end stretch? Or do you see him as solely a stream option, and if so, between Mariota and another QB facing what appears to be a soft D, which way do you think you'd go?
Thought Mariota was going to be gold this year. He's currently sitting at 21st overall by total FPiml behind guys like Bortles, Taylor, and McCown -- even Brisset and Manning. Yes, he was injured, but so was Carr and Carr is outperforming him. So trying to get a bead on how much people trust Mariota and are planning on leaning on him for the stretch run.
Bringing it up now as I still have concerns. Mariota and the Titans have some super-juicy matchups coming up after facing PIT this weekend -- IND, HOU, ARI (depending on which ARI team shows up), SF.
Since coming back from injury in week 5, Mariota has been a little pedestrian.
Week 6 he hung 300+ against IND, with 1:1 TD/INT. 18.74 points in my league's scoring. I'll take it.
Week 7 he faced a CLE team ready to be dismantled, and barely cracked 200 with 0 TDs. 8.92 FP in my league (FPiml)
Week 9 after the bye, Mariota only threw for 218 against a BAL team that is ripe for beating, but threw for 2 TDs which luckily saved an otherwise mediocre performance (17.82 FPiml)
Week 10 against CIN, 264 yards with 1 TD 1 INT -- respectable 19.16 FPiml, but it's not like the CIN D has been the stalwart force they have been in the past. Liked, however, that they took off the reins on Marcus's rush attempts, and he had 6 for 51 on the day.
So what should we expect for these juicy matchups coming up?
Would love to believe that this is a team that is trending in the right direction but given past performance, not really sure if Mariota is as dependable an option as I'd like facing some cake teams in the next few weeks.
What say you -- are you relying on Mariota without questions for this end stretch? Or do you see him as solely a stream option, and if so, between Mariota and another QB facing what appears to be a soft D, which way do you think you'd go?
Thought Mariota was going to be gold this year. He's currently sitting at 21st overall by total FPiml behind guys like Bortles, Taylor, and McCown -- even Brisset and Manning. Yes, he was injured, but so was Carr and Carr is outperforming him. So trying to get a bead on how much people trust Mariota and are planning on leaning on him for the stretch run.
Steeler
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Mariota is the only QB on my roster right now (long story, nobody cares) so I'll probably be starting him in some of those juicy match ups you mentioned. However, I do have some of the same concerns as you and I do view him as a streamer and not a must start type of player. The Goff owner dropped Rivers last week so I'm planning to add him because he seems to have some decent match ups down the stretch too. So yeah, if all goes well (at least as well as I can hope given my situation) I'll be streaming Mariota and Rivers the rest of the year. 
Mariota has definitely been off this year. I would blame part of that on his injury. He has a safe floor with his rushing ability which he is doing more now, and if him and Davis finally get in a sync I think he can go on a pretty solid tear like he did last year. His schedule after this Thursday is pretty damn good too.
@ IND
vs HOU
@ ARZ (they have not been good against the pass, and the sputtering ARZ offense gives more opportunity)
@ SF
vs LAR (not a great match-up, but playing at home and Rams have actually been below average against the run, so Titans should at least be able to move the ball offensively)
@ IND
vs HOU
@ ARZ (they have not been good against the pass, and the sputtering ARZ offense gives more opportunity)
@ SF
vs LAR (not a great match-up, but playing at home and Rams have actually been below average against the run, so Titans should at least be able to move the ball offensively)
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Had to drop a backup QB to cover for other positional byes, and actually debating seeing the season out with just one QB myself. If Rivers was available I would likely grab him too, but my options are much more limited (Bortles, Brissett, Flacco being the highest scoring QBs still available). So if Mariota goes down again (please no, fantasy gods), it's not like I'd gain anything by holding an extra QB this time as these waiver QBs are likely going to still be there. Would definitely be the end of my season though.Mariota is the only QB on my roster right now (long story, nobody cares) so I'll probably be starting him in some of those juicy match ups you mentioned. However, I do have some of the same concerns as you and I do view him as a streamer and not a must start type of player. The Goff owner dropped Rivers last week so I'm planning to add him because he seems to have some decent match ups down the stretch too. So yeah, if all goes well (at least as well as I can hope given my situation) I'll be streaming Mariota and Rivers the rest of the year.
Steeler
Footballguy
Yeah, given what's available on your wire holding only Mariota makes sense for the reasons you listed.
Steeler
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NREC34
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-OZ-
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Agreed.
Still a big fan of the guy but he's probably seeing my bench for keenum or ty Taylor for the next couple weeks.
But in another, 2qb league he's starting with Goff thanks to Watson and Rodgers injuries.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Has Norrapolo been given a timetable to start? Do we think that's inevitable? Would tend to think that way, especially given the upcoming bye gives SF the chance to get Norrapolo reps to tune him up.
But Beathard actually had a solid day (albeit against the Jints), and is good at running the ball in himself.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
That may not be such a terrible pairing if Mariota plays up to his matchups. Not too shabby with both Watson and Rodgers gone (which is unbelievably bad luck in a 2QB league -- my condolences).Agreed.
Still a big fan of the guy but he's probably seeing my bench for keenum or ty Taylor for the next couple weeks.
But in another, 2qb league he's starting with Goff thanks to Watson and Rodgers injuries.
NREC34
Footballguy
Might be risky. But I'm going for another trophy. Roto seems to think after their bye. I feel like he's got a chance to have huge upside. Lots of incentive for him to show he can be the man. Probably lots of chances for big time garbage time points as well.
Hopefully he will never need to be used.
I don't think he's going to "rock" this year and I would have him as my backup. There are no QBs on the WW in two of my leagues, so I wouldn't drop him.
I would expect a game that he lights it up and otherwise much of the same.
This Steelers matchup has a lot of wrinkles with the Titans staff probably having more experience on the Steelers than the Steelers staff. Coty Sensabaugh is replacing Joe Haden. Titans know him all too well and he's susceptible to one fake and the deep ball. A good coach would put Taywan Taylor over there. Coty used to play safety too and he doesn't mind muscling up to guys like Davis. I don't think he could cover Taylor at all. We would literally wait for him to get burned deep in the game threads and you can search for it. He would probably be fine on Matthews too because he doesn't go deep much or have blazing speed. I'm telling ya, a guy like Taylor would just light him up.
The Titans boring bunched in offense with 3 TEs or wishbone move the ball up the field so snail slow. There's little reason to expect Mariota to have gaudy stats from that.
Their secondary improves each week as Adoree develops. JuJu is his former college teammate so he just might be able to stop the red hot WR. Most likely though is at some point AB and JuJu start breaking free and this becomes a shootout.
The Titans look awesome spread out and in come from behind mode. Just like on paper, all their weapons on O are too much for a D this late in the season. Injuries and depth issues for the D while the Titans bring in Decker, Taylor, and Jonnu.
The problem is though that that's a part time offense for a spark. They'll go right back to the 3 TE offense and making you yawn. The Steelers have the back to get a lead and keep it by running and using the clock up. They should. The Titans will totally match that snails pace. If they try and light the Titans up though, this could be a surprisingly good day for Mariota.
IMO if the Steelers use Bell a lot they'll win handily. If they try and have a shootout, I'm not so sure.
I would expect a game that he lights it up and otherwise much of the same.
This Steelers matchup has a lot of wrinkles with the Titans staff probably having more experience on the Steelers than the Steelers staff. Coty Sensabaugh is replacing Joe Haden. Titans know him all too well and he's susceptible to one fake and the deep ball. A good coach would put Taywan Taylor over there. Coty used to play safety too and he doesn't mind muscling up to guys like Davis. I don't think he could cover Taylor at all. We would literally wait for him to get burned deep in the game threads and you can search for it. He would probably be fine on Matthews too because he doesn't go deep much or have blazing speed. I'm telling ya, a guy like Taylor would just light him up.
The Titans boring bunched in offense with 3 TEs or wishbone move the ball up the field so snail slow. There's little reason to expect Mariota to have gaudy stats from that.
Their secondary improves each week as Adoree develops. JuJu is his former college teammate so he just might be able to stop the red hot WR. Most likely though is at some point AB and JuJu start breaking free and this becomes a shootout.
The Titans look awesome spread out and in come from behind mode. Just like on paper, all their weapons on O are too much for a D this late in the season. Injuries and depth issues for the D while the Titans bring in Decker, Taylor, and Jonnu.
The problem is though that that's a part time offense for a spark. They'll go right back to the 3 TE offense and making you yawn. The Steelers have the back to get a lead and keep it by running and using the clock up. They should. The Titans will totally match that snails pace. If they try and light the Titans up though, this could be a surprisingly good day for Mariota.
IMO if the Steelers use Bell a lot they'll win handily. If they try and have a shootout, I'm not so sure.
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bigupsetter
Footballguy
Mariotta is getting healthier, Mariotta is getting groove back with Corey Davis. Mariotta has a stretch where he played lights out. Teddy has not played in 26 games, when he did, he was efficient, not lights out, now team as evolved since he played. I think Minnesota would be making a mistake taking out Keenum now, he's playing well, but Minn did try and trot out Bradford in Chi and he clearly shouldn't have been out there- so who knows what they do-OZ- said:
voiceofunreason
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Cowboysfan8
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zoonation
Footballguy
Why? Because Mariota has been stellar this year? Or even returned value based on where he was projected? I drafted him to be my QB1 this year. Had to make an early move to plug that hole and then another when Watson went down. Why? Cuz Marcus isn’t QB’n people to titles this year. He has been a borderline bust.
So yeah, I’m thinking outside the box for what I see playing out three weeks from now in Minny. And my gut tells me Teddy is the guy. Easier to pull the trigger on a gut feeling when you have a decent QB1 too.
If marcus was my #1 I wouldn’t do it. But he’s not.
zoonation
Footballguy
Do you guys read the news? The coaching staff was itching to get him in there. Last week.
Keenum ain’t the guy that will be calling signals down the home stretch (playoffs)
Happy to come back and eat the crow if I’m wrong.
Cowboysfan8
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mr roboto
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Fair enough. Just my opinion obviously, but I'd have a hard time starting him...having not played in over a year...in my FF playoffs.
To each their own I guess
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Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Oof.
That was a fugly game against PIT.
From a fantasy perspective, depending on your league's scoring, he could have helped you (306/1, rush TD) or hurt you (4 INTs, the most Pittsburgh has had in a game since pre-Heinz).
For me, he was middling. My team is going against an elite QB this weekend, so Mariota is not going to win that position. The INTs stung, but I'll take the production.
But from watching him tonight? Oof. Beyond the wide inaccurate throws and bad decisions, he actually looked lost out there at times.
Which is too bad -- with Lewin on one side and Conklin on the other, they should have solid pass pro. If their between the tackles running game ever got started, their offense would start to click.
But the main holdback in this offense is Mariota right now. He's got talent and is developing, but this year is a big regression.
AFC Wildcard race is pretty interesting at this moment.
That was a fugly game against PIT.
From a fantasy perspective, depending on your league's scoring, he could have helped you (306/1, rush TD) or hurt you (4 INTs, the most Pittsburgh has had in a game since pre-Heinz).
For me, he was middling. My team is going against an elite QB this weekend, so Mariota is not going to win that position. The INTs stung, but I'll take the production.
But from watching him tonight? Oof. Beyond the wide inaccurate throws and bad decisions, he actually looked lost out there at times.
Which is too bad -- with Lewin on one side and Conklin on the other, they should have solid pass pro. If their between the tackles running game ever got started, their offense would start to click.
But the main holdback in this offense is Mariota right now. He's got talent and is developing, but this year is a big regression.
AFC Wildcard race is pretty interesting at this moment.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Weird to think how much Wentz and Goff seem to have already passed Mariota and Winston in their respective progressions.
-OZ-
Footballguy
For now, yes. We'll see what happens in the next few years.
I want to like Mularkey but he's losing this fan. Robiskie too. Bring in some guys who can actually utilize and coach up Marcus, Davis, and Taylor.
I was thinking the same thing. Mariota hasn' improved and Winston has actually regressed. Add Dak Prescott to Wentz and Goff and the 2016 QB draft seems like a great one.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
This is true. We can make excuses for both players, Jameis and Marcus, but it seems like both organizations made efforts to surround them with talent for this season. Neither player took the step we expected.
