I don't understand your examples of Vick, Gannon, or Brad Johnson.
Well, see they all got markedly better later in their careers than their early years would indicate. Seems pretty simple.
Vick's YPA his first 6 years starting are
6.97.05.9 (in 5 games)7.26.26.4his numbers hovered around 6.7 his entire career and his numbers from year to year are particularly volatile because of the low amount of attempts and low amount of games he plays due to injury each season
And his last years of 8.1 and 7.8 are left out because...?Also, Y/A tells only a
small part of the story. Because not only were his yards up over the last couple years, his comp % and TDs were at all time highs in a 12 game season, and dwarfed some of his previous years of a full season. What about his first 4 years were indicative of the numbers he's putting up now? The Y/A has a lot less to do with his success than him becoming a much more accurate QB in Philly than the one in Atlanta who displayed NO touch on many, many of his passes.
Gannon's YPA
in the years he started more than 9 games
'90 6.591 6.192 6.898 6.399 7.22000 7.401 7.002 7.2he improved a lot later in his career, but his major jump was similar to Ryan's last year, plus my assumption is that his relative rank to other QBs is going to be fairly consistent as passing numbers have risen and he went 6 years without starting
Gannon started 19 games in KC. He threw 619 times combined in those years for 3940 yards (6.37 Y/A), 23 TDs, and 11 INTs. He went to Oaland and went to 4 straight Pro Bowls, was a 2 time All Pro, and won an MVP. That year, he threw 618 times for 4689 yards, 26 TDs, and 10 INTs. His Y/A was 7.33 over the first 4 years, peaking at 7.7. If THAT isn't a major jump, I don't know what you would consider a major jump....
Brad Johnson
in the years he started more than 9 games
95 7.5697 6.7299 7.722000 6.8601 6.802 6.7603 6.69if anything he got worse after 4 years.
That's cute. Johnson was a journeyman caliber QB in Minny, which is why he bounced around a bit later. The Y/A is only indicative of their down-field offense at the time. He also threw for 34 TDs to 29 INTs in Minny. Not quite efficient. He would have posted even better numbers in Tampa than he already did if not for a dead arm. That was the last thing a guy of his skill set needed, and his career was over from there.
QB rating is practically useless and INT numbers are probably just a useless, far too many variables and far too unreliable from year to year.
I don't like QB rating very much, either. But you're kidding yourself with the INT-bashing. The only real variable to Eli's INT numbers that mattered was his penchant to throw off his back foot and into double-coverage. Lapses that he still has now, but not nearly in the same numbers. I also think it's hilarious that all you talk about is Y/A when you discredit INTs due to too many variables. Were there not a ton of variables that went into Vick or Gannon's jump in Y/A, going to more talented offenses led by better offensive coaches and playing in different systems that led to drastically improved results? Very short-sighted and convenient to your argument......