QB Philip Rivers, IND (4 Viewers)

[Tau837]

He likely takes less because he gets rid of the ball quickly.

5 years ago, this was true.

Very much TBD in the YooL 2025.

This is an odd comment to me. Obviously he has to prove everything again if he plays. But, we know his strength as a QB was processing rapidly, understanding and reading defenses, getting the ball out quickly, and throwing with anticipation. I don't see any reason to believe any of that would be diminished. I would also assume that the coaching staff would build in easy throws and quick/hot reads for him. He hasn't forgotten how to use them.

I suppose you could say he might need to adjust again to game speed... is that it? Short of that, I don't see it.

How is it at all odd?

He has not taken a snap in live action in 5 years. He hasn’t read a defense, made a checkdown, or processed at game speed in 5 years.

5 years.

5.

Like, 1-2-3-4-FIVE.

The odd comment here is denying that this might actually be a problem. We have literally no idea how quickly Rivers will get the ball out.

And it is a fact that as we age our twitch reflexes are affected. Ask any video game player over 40 about this.

We know literally nothing about how well this 2025 version of Rivers will play. IMO
it’s laughable to even suggest he’s going to just jump back into the game like it was yesterday and won’t miss a beat. Cmon.

I posted exactly why it is odd to me. There is no need for me to repeat what I already said in the post you quoted. You can disagree, and that's fine.

I did not say he is going to "just jump back into the game like it was yesterday and won't miss a beat." Nice strawman, though.

I appreciate that you can count to 5, though.

 

[JoeKappBudGrant]

What does he do for Pittmans value? He’s excited about Rivers.

Of course Pittman is excited. These are the QBs he has played with in the NFL:

1. Rivers
2. Wentz
3. Ryan
4. Ehlinger
5. Foles
6. Minshew
7. Richardson
8. Flacco
9. Jones
10. Leonard

Rivers is clearly the best of the lot.

The last game Rivers played, Pittman caught 8 balls for 90 yards at Buffalo in January of 2021.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I appreciate that you can count to 5, though.

Honestly I had to take my glove off.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I did not say he is going to "just jump back into the game like it was yesterday and won't miss a beat." Nice strawman, though.

Never said you did. I was commenting on the narrative, not putting words in your mouth.

Settle down now.

 

[rockaction]

I think you guys are arguing two different things. One is arguing the speed with which one recognizes a pattern or a movement and the other is arguing that the time to send the body a signal to move and the body's movements are slower than once was.

I don't think either of you are wrong if that is the claim.

I don't think pattern recognition slows at an advanced age probably because we fill in deterioration of anything physical with experience with these patterns. I think that it is almost certain that it takes longer for the signal to get to the body and then definitely the body to move appropriately, if it can move appropriately at all.

I also wonder if (and Hot Sauce might be making this stronger claim) Rivers might not need some time to see the patterns again from that particular vantage point in order to adjust and react from dormancy. Players are bigger, stronger, faster than they were five years ago, so he needs to be able to recognize a threat even more quickly to send the deteriorating signal to his deteriorating body to move.

It's going to be really tough and I would absolutely not have him play Macdonald's defense with looks he probably has never seen. People will chalk his lack of success up to age; it will be a lack of experience with new defensive looks at that age.