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QB Philip Rivers, RET (1 Viewer)
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Tau837
Footballguy
Back to back "brutal seasons" is overstating it. He played below the standard he had set, but his play was far from "brutal."
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Tau837
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Of the 28 QBs who threw at least combined 500 passes in 2011 and 2012, Philip Rivers was:
11th in passer rating
8th in Comp%
8th in TD%
and 21st in INT%
So basically he was pretty good, except for a rash of turn(er)overs. Not like his whole game went to hell or anything.
11th in passer rating
8th in Comp%
8th in TD%
and 21st in INT%
So basically he was pretty good, except for a rash of turn(er)overs. Not like his whole game went to hell or anything.
Tau837
Footballguy
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
From a fantasy standpoint at the QB position, he wins comeback player of the year hands down. Went from being undrafted in most draft formats, to a sought after QB1 and highly tradable asset.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
So Rivers' worst two years are just a little bit better than Eli's career.... 229 TDs, 171 INTs, 80 fumbles
Monsters of the Midway
Footballguy
Eli clearly bringing up the rear in that trio imo. Rivers vs. Ben is an interesting topic, not sure where I stand there. Seems pretty clear that Rivers' football-not fantasy, real football-career has been pretty underrated.Maurile Tremblay said:
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Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Rivers just needs a ring. (Please, my long term sanity depends on it)
Gr00vus
Footballguy
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Obviously plugging the hole at nose is the highest priority, but otherwise I feel more excited about the Charger D than anytime in the last 3-4 years.
Call me crazy, but I think the Chargers make a Super Bowl run this year. The AFC is wide open, and our roster is as deep as I've seen it.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Gotta love ya tommy.
The AFC is a 2 dog race. Denver & NEPats
The defensive roster is awful especially in the secondary, and the Dline isnt much better.
Chaka
Footballguy
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Yep. And I think the pass rush should be better as well. Ingram has pro-bowl talent, if he can just stay healthy. I think this year is his coming out party.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
The defensive front 7, front 3 in particular, have looked pretty bad so far this preseason. People may not have to pass much vs. the Chargers.
Liuget has looked awesome.
Reyes has looked bad.
The DT spot wasn't a strength to begin with. With Geathers out and Lissemore still trying to get healthy, it's definitely a concern. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chargers add a newly released DT after teams cut down to 53.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Not the 1st two preseason games - barely noticed him, even when he was actually in the game.
Anyway, we're destroying the Philip Rivers is Terrible thread with this tangent.
Has anyone mentioned he hasn't won a super bowl yet?
He didn't play against the Cowboys.
He got just a series or two against the Seahakws, but he pressured Wilson a few times.
He got only 24 snaps against the 49ers, but got something like four tackles (including a nice stuff of Gore for a two-yard loss), a sack, a forced fumble, and a pass deflected.
BoltNlava
Footballguy
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
That's because you didn't see him. He was hurt.Gr00vus said:
Gr00vus
Footballguy
As MT said, he played in the 2nd game. Regardless, the overall defensive front has looked pretty bad.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
ArlingtonTerp
Footballguy
Easily B in real football. And in my league, B would outscore A significantly, by like 5 and a half points. (-3 per interceptions and the difference between a 6 and 8 y/attempt bonus).
GreenBaySnackers
Footballguy
Well ya know, they have this young potential breakout star named Ladarius Green and this other solid veteran guy Antonio Gates. Not to mention Mathews, Woodhead, and Royal all catch too..
Chaka
Footballguy
Floyd has been getting solid reviews in camp and played pretty well in preseason too. He's definitely the #2 WR right now.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
His pass catching options are pretty much the same as last year, when he somehow managed to throw 32 touchdowns and only 11 interceptions, with nearly 4,500 passing yards. I think similar numbers are reasonable to expect.
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Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Their base formation is going to be the 2 TE set so - Allen, Gates, Floyd, Green. Royal on 3 WR sets. Sprinkle in Woodhead for 70-80 balls.Floyd is a significant upgrade over the black hole of Brown.
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Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
makes Allen a disappointment candidate compared to last year and this year adp. rivers on the other hand could be a steal.
Chaka
Footballguy
Allen has been getting rave reviews this offseason. He isn't a guy who can overwhelm you with talent but he is one of those guys who always seems to be able to find the soft spot in zones and is completely on the same page with Rivers when it comes to breaking off routes. He is the unquestioned #1 and will probably pass Gates as Rivers most trusted target.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Man I really hope so.
He finished 4th in Total FFP for QB's in a standard league last year. He went rock bottom last year and this year too.
CBS ranks him 14, FBG is something like that too maybe 15th without checking, for 2014.
This year he gets the NFCW, including @SEA week 2, which drives me crazy and tells me I need a QBBC, but at any rate maybe it was McCoy and not so much Wiz that was the magician last year. If that's the case then giddyup.
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Lot of optimism in here. 
I'm not so sure they don't keep going with the run heavy plan that was so successful for them down the stretch last year, especially when that's what the beat reporters have been saying all off season that they'd do.
Lot of talented targets on the team, but I'm a little too nervous to sign up in case they prefer the safe, efficient guy who nearly rallied them past the Broncs to the guy who started 5-7 while putting up all the stats. I'm pretty sure if I'm McCoy, I'm going run heavy a lot more often than not after seeing last season's results.
I'm not so sure they don't keep going with the run heavy plan that was so successful for them down the stretch last year, especially when that's what the beat reporters have been saying all off season that they'd do.
Lot of talented targets on the team, but I'm a little too nervous to sign up in case they prefer the safe, efficient guy who nearly rallied them past the Broncs to the guy who started 5-7 while putting up all the stats. I'm pretty sure if I'm McCoy, I'm going run heavy a lot more often than not after seeing last season's results.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I think they'll be run heavy and Rivers will still be a startable FF QB.Lot of optimism in here.
I'm not so sure they don't keep going with the run heavy plan that was so successful for them down the stretch last year, especially when that's what the beat reporters have been saying all off season that they'd do.
Lot of talented targets on the team, but I'm a little too nervous to sign up in case they prefer the safe, efficient guy who nearly rallied them past the Broncs to the guy who started 5-7 while putting up all the stats. I'm pretty sure if I'm McCoy, I'm going run heavy a lot more often than not after seeing last season's results.
At his current price, this should not even be a debate. In my two drafts he was picked at 13.2 (ten teamer) and 8.13 (14 teamer by a Chargers homer). If he can have a season that is close to last year, that is a steal. Part of the reason that people are saying he was terrible when he was really only mediocre is that those were the two years where he was a top 20-30 pick in most drafts. I distinctly remember taking him in the second round one of those years. What a burn that was!
Grahamburn
Footballguy
It's crazy how late he goes considering not much has changed for him. He's a complete after thought in drafts. Perfect "wait for QB" candidate.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
People are afraid they're going to be more run oriented - which they are. Also they're using more short routes than Norv did, so the yards per pass are down. But I still think it'll leave plenty of opportunities for the passing game to put up some numbers. They also have a tougher schedule for QBs this year (if you believe in such things in preseason) than last year.
Run It Up
Footballguy
That's my favorite committee, for the price. Both guys were top-five fantasy QBs last season; and while they're unlikely to repeat, they both a have a good shot (IMO) of staying in the top ten.Run It Up said:
