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QB Quinn Ewers, MIA (1 Viewer)

JohnnyU said:
2026 and 2027 QB classes should be good. 2025 not so much.
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We are in sync. Not that one of these QBs can't rise to become successful. And there are so many more questions in terms of how that happens with the 2025 class. The next two years classes have guys who as prospects have higher ceilings. With Ewers I am most focused on his arm strength and sometimes his decision making. I'm not sold on either.
 
Ewers was not setting his feet after his first read, he almost had to go check down after that.

I thought he had a decent pocket most of the night. OSU passrush was good, but I wasnt impressed with Ewers last night.

I even thought they would bring out Manninf at one point.
 
I'm waiting for QB gurus to dig into him.

I watched everyone say he misses easy open passes and a couple gurus say his eyes weren't supposed to be there. WR got open way late.

Texas wasn't that great for a period before him and he led them back to prominence.

Top rated guy by sooo many in HS. That he was able to hold off Manning is quite a feat in today's world.

I see negative of slow to process and contradictory avg short time to pass.
I see negative of doesn't have the arm and tries to go deep too often.
There's a lot of hypocrisy that needs to get ironed out here.

Not to say the negatives aren't there in big games. I do see he gets them there then fizzles. (I don't think he has the great WRs necessary but it is on him).

I'm sure his dream is to be the top pick or somesuch.
Teams would fight over themselves to draft him in a round later than the first though. I guess third or later is ideal. Maybe a team with an extra second?

He won't be Rattler waiting for the fifth round. That's too late.

If he transfers, well I'm always in favor of QBs getting more experience.

Don't forget he was a five star recruit from top level Texas high school. That's elite of elite HS play, college coaches coach at that level, and he's been playing in front of big crowds for a long time. Does HS experience matter for NFL draft? No! What about elite Texas HS? Ok maybe a bit. Face of franchise stuff- lots of good quotes and he was one of the first to have huge $ NIL stuff to deal with. We really might have to consider the totality of his experience.
 
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I know Quinn Ewers is not everyone’s cup of tea, but there will be an NFL team that loves the gamer in him.

In a weaker draft class I wouldn’t be surprised if he sneaks into the back half of the first-round.

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In the right system with some good coaching he could be productive. Maybe not a quality starter but someone who could manage well enough in a backup situation.
 
I've watched him a few times, and to my eyes he's a day 3 prospect that some desperate team might reach for on day 1 due to this weak QB class. He might end up being the 3rd QB taken ahead of Milroe.

He regressed this season and while some can be attributed to his injuries, I think it has to do with teams using more zone against him which he seems to struggle against. He has times where he flashes, but then he'll follow it up with mind numbing decisions and throws. Very inconsistent QB overall who has a tendency to panic and run into sacks.
 
I still think he can figure it out, but he needs to transfer. Texas will move on to Manning and there is some team who could use a vet out there and let him stabilize his value. He will also likely get similar comp via NIL than he would where he’d be drafted at this point.

I see him as a Philip Rivers lite. Similar sidearm delivery and just feels like an apt comparison. Maybe follow in his footsteps and go to NC State, or better yet if you’re him, go to North Carolina and get a year with Belichick.
 
Curious to know more about the backstory on Sawyer and Ewers relationship. As roommates, you have to think they were very good friends at one point, if not still.

Also would like to know why Ewers left Ohio State. Playing time?

Whatever the case may be, that is as sweet as it gets for Sawyer.
 
He’d probably make more money transferring than he will as a 5th round pick.

Similar to Beck and Miami.

I bet FSU would give him a mil. He’s better than DJU.
 
Harry Frogfish said:
Also would like to know why Ewers left Ohio State. Playing time?
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He grew up a Texas boy for one and was originally a Texas commit, flipping during his junior year to TOSU. After his junior year in HS is when NIL came into affect in the NCAA but Texas law didn't allow minors to earn from NIL. Ewers had a $1.4M deal with a sports marketing agency (autographs and such) so had to leave the state in order to do it. Being only a junior he had to scrabmle to reclassify into the 2021 recruiting cycle.

This all happened late and he didn't get to Columbus until like August so he had no shot to get into their system and sat behind Stroud (sophomore) that year. The rest is predictable - a Texas boy missing home, sitting behind a now established/borderline-stud-level Stroud, and most of all he can now cash checks in Texas. Every OSU fan knew this was going to happen in about, say, October of his freshman year. Our only prayer was he loved it here and being as young as he was could afford to sit another year and learn (like Manning is) while Stroud drives the bus but the call of home is a tough one to beat.
 
Hankmoody said:
Harry Frogfish said:
Also would like to know why Ewers left Ohio State. Playing time?
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He grew up a Texas boy for one and was originally a Texas commit, flipping during his junior year to TOSU. After his junior year in HS is when NIL came into affect in the NCAA but Texas law didn't allow minors to earn from NIL. Ewers had a $1.4M deal with a sports marketing agency (autographs and such) so had to leave the state in order to do it. Being only a junior he had to scrabmle to reclassify into the 2021 recruiting cycle.

This all happened late and he didn't get to Columbus until like August so he had no shot to get into their system and sat behind Stroud (sophomore) that year. The rest is predictable - a Texas boy missing home, sitting behind a now established/borderline-stud-level Stroud, and most of all he can now cash checks in Texas. Every OSU fan knew this was going to happen in about, say, October of his freshman year. Our only prayer was he loved it here and being as young as he was could afford to sit another year and learn (like Manning is) while Stroud drives the bus but the call of home is a tough one to beat.
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Cool, interesting story. Thanks for sharing that!
 
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I think he would have been wiser to transfer than come out. Maybe some team falls in love with his...I don't know, processing? But I see a career backup talent here. A day 3 prospect. He doesn't have a big arm, he's got average accuracy, and so much of his tape is passes under 5 air yards.

Seeing him in every mocks (currently QB4 on average) over guys like Will Howard and especially Dillon Gabriel seems odd to me. It can't be just because of age right?
 
JoeJoe88 said:
Harry Frogfish said:
Like him or not, no way in the world this guy gets an NFL team over the top.

He's Colt McCoy. But without the Dad, so there's that.
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I think McCoy was a better prospect. I’ve never been impressed with Ewers.
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Thanks! Appreciate the reply.

I never thought McCoy was a prospect. Ewers is worse.

What ever made Colt McCoy a prospect, exactly? His connections?

If that kid played for, say New Mexico, you think he'd ever had a chance? Doubt it. He's lucky to have been drafted.

Business. He had very good connections. As an NFL QB? Come on.
 
drummer said:
JohnnyU said:
drummer said:
Harry Frogfish said:
Like him or not, no way in the world this guy gets an NFL team over the top.

He's Colt McCoy. But without the Dad, so there's that.
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That's harsh lol. But yeah, he doesn't have the arm strength, pocket presence, etc. for the NFL.
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Yeah, but Colt McCoy has proven to be a good backup for killing wasps.
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I have no idea what context this refers to, but I still LMAO.
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I think it is from some commercial, not sure which one, but he is summoned to take out the wasps since the husband can't get it done.
 
mrfrood said:
drummer said:
JohnnyU said:
drummer said:
Harry Frogfish said:
Like him or not, no way in the world this guy gets an NFL team over the top.

He's Colt McCoy. But without the Dad, so there's that.
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That's harsh lol. But yeah, he doesn't have the arm strength, pocket presence, etc. for the NFL.
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Yeah, but Colt McCoy has proven to be a good backup for killing wasps.
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I have no idea what context this refers to, but I still LMAO.
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I think it is from some commercial, not sure which one, but he is summoned to take out the wasps since the husband can't get it done.
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Was Trey Lance there, by chance?
 
drummer said:
Harry Frogfish said:
Like him or not, no way in the world this guy gets an NFL team over the top.

He's Colt McCoy. But without the Dad, so there's that.
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That's harsh lol. But yeah, he doesn't have the arm strength, pocket presence, etc. for the NFL.
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Colt was a very good college QB that won a bunch of games and was an excellent leader. Tebow was a legend and Bradford was a blessed talent and he was a spunky guy that found ways to win.

He wasn't all that great as a passer but he could lead. He was something like Phil Simms (when his son wasn't) really.
The Browns were awful and he upset the apple cart the way he was supposed to. There was so much extra junk in Cleveland for a couple years and we all knew they probably needed it.
They only won maybe five games per season with him but they went from losing a ton to being in most games with a roster that had no business keeping games close.
They were foolish to clean house again. It went magnificently. They had lesser talent but hustling dedicated guys all over. To clear those types out was soooo bad.

They'd have grumpy castoffs and free agents and set the franchise back years until Baker came and again showed them how to win games and never quit and work hard etc.

Colt could chuck a deep ball but it wasn't placed or anything. He was at least wise enough to own that and let his WR run under it. His arm was very questionable but timing routes and short stuff he was great at.
He got sacked 10000 times and would soon be all but done as we've seen happens with many young QBs. Combo of that and team brushing him aside- he was no longer the confident leader so the shine was gone and he lost his best attribute.

Teams talk way too often about having to have a star at QB when there's only like 5-8 in the league. No one anymore seems to have a plan if they don't have a star. Colt in like the second or third would be fine. Solder Simms at some point Rypien, young Shaun King. Teams used to own it and build the rest of the roster then maybe a high pick or free agent can step in at QB and take over.

If my Titans had young Colt, they could have kept Henry and with a top rated D, they probably would have been 8-10 win team.

They gotta lie that Levis has Burrow qualities and fail as he finds creative ways to give the defense the ball. Now we're onto the draft and every week someone is saying if Ward or Sheduer are Burrow like. Ya know who is Burrow like? Burrow! Gee I can't wait to find out that Shedeur is not Burrow and Ridley isn't Chase. Who would have ever guessed that?
Oh no wait Aaron Rodgers is going to win because he was so good in NY.

I would love to be discussing other positions and not the impending failure. It's brutal.

If NFL teams would just own what a player is capable of and draft/pay accordingly, they'd sure find it way easier to have success.

Ward=Burrow....geesh, I may never forget that. Will they say Lamar is like cement feet Dan Marino next?

Gimme a "not the problem" QB over all this extra stuff anyday
 
Longhorn fan here. I'm avoiding Ewers in all rookie drafts. He is not going to be a good fantasy QB, even if he gets a shot to start somewhere. He will be a capable clipboard-holder. Sorry, no thanks.
 
Miami. Good landing spot. Needs to beat out Zach Wilson for a backup job. Probably better than Tua's backups the last 2 years, White, Thompson, Huntley.

Miami is likely to be a losing team in 2025, and drafting a QB. They have an extra 3rd in 2026.

Can Ewers undeclare and enter the college portal? Beck got $10 mil from NIL and partners.
 
I was listening to an interesting bit on Sirius how Miami met with Sark to confirm what they saw about Ewers.
McDaniel runs so much motion and presnap reads that the play call isn't sincerely in the huddle and a lot of QBs can't process like Tua does.
Sark expects and teaches the same (lesser degree of course) and Ewers was one of the best he ever had presnap and in meeting rooms.
There's significant doubt that this is the right offense for Wilson. They've had a lot of issues with Tua replacements able to step in. As the center piece, they could run often and throw screens and end arounds and limit the reliance on the backup, but he has to be able to read things presnap.

So during an interview/meeting, the Dolphins didn't care if he threw the ball. They didn't even want to discuss his motion or footwork or any of that. Ewers lit up when he recognized it and as the meeting closed they felt a strong connection like already they were on the same page.
 
I've shared Cosell's thoughts and I greatly respect them.

I don't have high expectations for this kid.

I have some. He was the best HS recruit in quite some time and he held off Arch Manning which I thought was impossible.

There is a possibility he's significantly better in the NFL than many predict.

Imagine being 21-23 years old and this is the first time his life won't be a circus.

I've got the door open a crack for this kid
 
SoBeDad said:
Miami. Good landing spot. Needs to beat out Zach Wilson for a backup job. Probably better than Tua's backups the last 2 years, White, Thompson, Huntley.

Miami is likely to be a losing team in 2025, and drafting a QB. They have an extra 3rd in 2026.

Can Ewers undeclare and enter the college portal? Beck got $10 mil from NIL and partners.
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I do not believe he is able to do that. Shedeuer Sanders would also be a candidate that would have done better staying one more year and made more money than his 5th round deal.
I like Quinn a little more than others seem to. I think he can evolve into at least a back up for Miami the next 2-3 seasons depending on who is coaching them.
Thought he got thrown under the bus a little bit

-Facts are he led the Texas Longhorns to a National Title Semi-Final and then College Playoffs last season, the kid can throw the football, I've seen him do it in live action
And there certainly is no pressure on him to do much but i expect him to look decent in preseason and give us a taste of what could happen with him.
I think Miami was a great landing spot and if Tua gets his bell rung again and Zach Wilson flops around for a couple weeks, it's possible you might see him on the field as a rookie

And next year will definitely be a stronger QB class, if Ewers had to be thrust into duty this seaason, good chance he can help Miami lose more games and get a higher draft pick
I'm already thinking next year, that's how little optimism I have going into 2025 right now
The overall Miami Draft however might be pretty good when you factor in Miami traded the 115 for a guaranteed Top 96 pick from Houston w/3rd Rd in '26.
Will Ramsey and Hill's inevitable departure give Miami more ammo for '26 as they quietly try and do a reset without calling it another rebuild?
 
Ministry of Pain said:
SoBeDad said:
Miami. Good landing spot. Needs to beat out Zach Wilson for a backup job. Probably better than Tua's backups the last 2 years, White, Thompson, Huntley.

Miami is likely to be a losing team in 2025, and drafting a QB. They have an extra 3rd in 2026.

Can Ewers undeclare and enter the college portal? Beck got $10 mil from NIL and partners.
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I do not believe he is able to do that. Shedeuer Sanders would also be a candidate that would have done better staying one more year and made more money than his 5th round deal.
I like Quinn a little more than others seem to. I think he can evolve into at least a back up for Miami the next 2-3 seasons depending on who is coaching them.
Thought he got thrown under the bus a little bit

-Facts are he led the Texas Longhorns to a National Title Semi-Final and then College Playoffs last season, the kid can throw the football, I've seen him do it in live action
And there certainly is no pressure on him to do much but i expect him to look decent in preseason and give us a taste of what could happen with him.
I think Miami was a great landing spot and if Tua gets his bell rung again and Zach Wilson flops around for a couple weeks, it's possible you might see him on the field as a rookie

And next year will definitely be a stronger QB class, if Ewers had to be thrust into duty this seaason, good chance he can help Miami lose more games and get a higher draft pick
I'm already thinking next year, that's how little optimism I have going into 2025 right now
The overall Miami Draft however might be pretty good when you factor in Miami traded the 115 for a guaranteed Top 96 pick from Houston w/3rd Rd in '26.
Will Ramsey and Hill's inevitable departure give Miami more ammo for '26 as they quietly try and do a reset without calling it another rebuild?
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My personal opinion in this draft was every QB after Milroe is basically the same guy with slightly different traits. The difference (and excitement) I have for Ewers is he is exactly the type of player the dolphins DON'T draft. Smart kid, decent arm, good pedigree. Miami doesn't really need a guy who can throw in a Hurricane (it wouldn't hurt, but usually 1-3 games a year are in weather that needs a superior arm) If he hits like Purdy, Awesome!!!! If he is a decent back up, that's good too. With what the QB room will cost Miami these next few years (with Tua still there or as a dead money cap hit) they needed a cheap backup and Ewers may be the best of that "back half of the draft" group in terms of PO-Tential.
 
I'm fascinated by him turning down 8mil to make 800k.
He's not stupid.
How much pressure has he been through and all the Arch stuff to see the NFL and a payout as a decision.
It's really unique
 
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