QB Russell Wilson, NYG (5 Viewers)

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Might try to sell him to a Foles owner but may end up just dropping in 5-6 man bench leagues. He is still the #4 PPG QB even with the lackluster past 2 weeks.

Typically drafted Russell to cover Brees or Rodgers byes with 'dream' matchups at home vs. Dallas & Oakland. Well, he ended up putting up his 2 worst performances of the season. lol go figure.

How is he #4 PPG? Hes #11 PPG in my league? Im baffled

I'd guess you have 20 yard = 1 pt.

He's #4 PPG in 25 yd = 1 pt. 4 passTD leagues.

 

[shadyridr]

Might try to sell him to a Foles owner but may end up just dropping in 5-6 man bench leagues. He is still the #4 PPG QB even with the lackluster past 2 weeks.

Typically drafted Russell to cover Brees or Rodgers byes with 'dream' matchups at home vs. Dallas & Oakland. Well, he ended up putting up his 2 worst performances of the season. lol go figure.

How is he #4 PPG? Hes #11 PPG in my league? Im baffled

I'd guess you have 20 yard = 1 pt.

He's #4 PPG in 25 yd = 1 pt. 4 passTD leagues.

Yep you're right. In my other league hes #4. Im surprised about the disparity. Usually its not that wide.

 

[Synthesizer]

He's actually getting more passing attempts than usual (~35) but just not doing much with them. At least his floor is about 10-12 points because he doesn't turn the ball over and gets about 30 yards rushing. Unlike some comparable FF QBs who can put up a complete clunker because of their turnovers (Stafford, Newton, Foles, Rivers this weekend).

sorry hes put up 3 clunkers the last 4 weeks. I can't trust him anymore

I guess it depends on how you define clunker. In my league he's put up 12, 15, and 10 points whereas Rivers just put up -0.7.

 

[shadyridr]

He's actually getting more passing attempts than usual (~35) but just not doing much with them. At least his floor is about 10-12 points because he doesn't turn the ball over and gets about 30 yards rushing. Unlike some comparable FF QBs who can put up a complete clunker because of their turnovers (Stafford, Newton, Foles, Rivers this weekend).

sorry hes put up 3 clunkers the last 4 weeks. I can't trust him anymore

I guess it depends on how you define clunker. In my league he's put up 12, 15, and 10 points whereas Rivers just put up -0.7.

In a 6 pt per TD league anything below 20 pts is well below average in this day and age. I guess his game last week wasnt a total clunker (17 pts). The game Rivers put up was an historical clunker. Id chalk that up to more of a fluke than anything and would never expect another one like that.

 

[White Lightning]

He's killing me. I'm going to bid 12-15% on Sanchez in FAAB league, and burn my #2 WW on Sanchez in another.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

He's killing me. I'm going to bid 12-15% on Sanchez in FAAB league, and burn my #2 WW on Sanchez in another.

Yep. I have #2 and hoping for Sanchez. Pole position for waivers has Brady on bye and Romo..so he may very well grab Sanchez.

Other option is trying to trade with the owner that has Big Ben and Brees, but my tradeable pieces are a bit limited.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

What do you guys think changed? Just Harvin being gone affected the offense even though his usage wasn't all that high?

 

[MattFancy]

What do you guys think changed? Just Harvin being gone affected the offense even though his usage wasn't all that high?

No idea. He's had 2 really good games without Harvin. I remember the first game without him Wilson got me 41 points. Their whole offense looks like a mess right now. Not sure what it is.

 

[shadyridr]

Their offensive line is a disaster and he has NO receivers to throw to.

 

[White Lightning]

What do you guys think changed? Just Harvin being gone affected the offense even though his usage wasn't all that high?

I have only watched parts of games, but the offense seems predictable with their read-option or play action calls stemming from 2 WR sets. Considering those 2 WRs are Baldwin and Kearse (probably the most unspectacular receiving corp in the NFL) you can see why Wilson is struggling. I mean, Wilson drops back from a play action, he has 2-3 receiving options, and those 2-3 options are not physically talented enough to win their one-on-one battles. The result is a stagnant passing game.

 

[buymeagoat]

I am trying to work out a deal for Luck right now. Probably have to give up Hillman (who is on fire) but at least it will get me off this bandwagon. There is so much promise for Wilson. He could be a top 3 QB with a single decent receiver. It isn't this year, though.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Even though Harvin wasn't really producing, the threat of him was enough to scare defenses, and the other guys could then go open. Without Harvin, or Tate (who wasn't great) like last year, the Seahawks are left with one of the least best WR corps in the NFL. The fact that Wilson does as well as he does considering is still pretty amazing. Imagine if he had the weapons many of the other top QBs had.

 

[chad in Indy]

I may be wrong, but didn't he struggle last year for a stretch of multiple games when Unger was out? And now he's on the 3rd stringer for a center.

 

[biju]

Their offensive line is a disaster and he has NO receivers to throw to.

Correct on the O-line. Sunday's game against the Raiders had:

LT: Alvin Bailey (backup for Okung)

LG: James Carpenter (starter) until injured, then Steven Schilling (injured ankle but was an emergency reserve)

C: I honestly can't even remember his name. He's the 4th stringer because...Unger was out; Jean-Pierre is on IR; Schilling was injured and doubtful but suited.

RG: Sweezy. He's the starter and has been for a couple years.

RT: Justin Britt (starter, but rookie)

Add to this that our usual band-aid, Zach Miller, is also out. The O-line is in shambles right now but the word on the street is we get back Unger and Okung which will make the O-line mostly whole again.

I personally don't buy the "no receivers" bit. This is exactly what everyone said when Golden Tate was here and now he's lighting it up in Detroit. It's just how we use them and the offensive scheme.

 

[rocketsauce]

Sooooo, what the hell are you doing next week v the Giants? Potentially good matchup, but Wilson just pissed down his leg in a money matchup v the Raiders.

I'm thinking of trying to get Sanchez in FAAB and rolling him out there. Anyone else?

 

[LordHusker]

Sanchez? I am sticking with Russell. Taking him late was part of my draft strategy. Although having just lost by exactly one point because of Andrew Freaking Luck rolling up 30+ on MNF, I am slightly less thrilled about that strategy.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

I think he will be a good start in week 10. Gets some O-line pieces back..NYG on short week across country, just got shredded, and lost Prince Amukamara for the season. But I am not sure about riding him thru FF playoffs..he is my only QB right now.

Roto Stock Up/Down article

After having perhaps the greatest statistical game ever by a quarterback against the Rams Week 7, Russell Wilson has been downright terrible the last two weeks. He has completed just 55 percent of his throws over the last two games and has 378 yards passing, 66 yards rushing, one touchdown and one interception total over that span. It has been brutal.

Wilson carries some of the blame for the poor performances, missing open receivers and making a few questionable decisions, but a lot of the blame falls at the feet of the people around Wilson. The offensive line has struggled to protect him the last two games, and the receivers that were expected to step up following the Percy Harvin trade are simply not getting open. If the receivers are not getting open against Oakland and Carolina, it is very fair to question if they will figure out how to get open against the tougher tests to come.

The good news is help is on the horizon. C Max Unger should be back Week 10, and LT Russell Okung has a good chance to suit up against the Giants as well. The offensive line getting healthy would be a big step in the right direction, but the Seahawks have to figure out how to get their nondescript wide receivers open for Wilson to find any success this season. I believe they can, but Wilson cannot be trusted as anything more than QB1 streaming option until we see it.

 

[Neofight]

Their offensive line is a disaster and he has NO receivers to throw to.

Correct on the O-line. Sunday's game against the Raiders had:

LT: Alvin Bailey (backup for Okung)

LG: James Carpenter (starter) until injured, then Steven Schilling (injured ankle but was an emergency reserve)

C: I honestly can't even remember his name. He's the 4th stringer because...Unger was out; Jean-Pierre is on IR; Schilling was injured and doubtful but suited.

RG: Sweezy. He's the starter and has been for a couple years.

RT: Justin Britt (starter, but rookie)

Add to this that our usual band-aid, Zach Miller, is also out. The O-line is in shambles right now but the word on the street is we get back Unger and Okung which will make the O-line mostly whole again.

I personally don't buy the "no receivers" bit. This is exactly what everyone said when Golden Tate was here and now he's lighting it up in Detroit. It's just how we use them and the offensive scheme.

The line has been putrid (I counted 8 free runs at Wilson in the last game, and I didn't even watch the whole thing), but let's be honest: Golden Tate was and is a better WR than anyone currently in a Seahawk uniform. The WR's on that team, as presently constituted, are bottom third in the league. Somehow I think this will bode well for Wilson and his motley crew down the stretch-assuming the O-line gets healthy-as this squad performs better with a chip on its shoulder. They should have a massive chip based on recent performances.

 

[shadyridr]

Starting Matty Ice over him this week. Will reevaluate (and probably make the wrong decision) every week.

 

[mphtrilogy]

hes due

if he doesnt deliver this week I may have to consider flacco

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said he has "recognized" the offense is more effective when they use an up-tempo attack.

The Seahawks have been very effective in the two-minute drill this season, and Carroll attributes that to tempo. "We are better when our tempo is really good, so that is a point of emphasis," Carroll said. "We see how well we’ve done when we’re going at a good pace." With Russell Wilson struggling the last two weeks, the Seahawks are likely looking for anything to spark the offense. An up-tempo approach could lead to more passing attempts for Wilson and a higher fantasy ceiling. With LT Russell Okung and C Max Unger back from injuries, Wilson is shaping up as a decent buy-low candidate.

Source: ESPN.com

Nov 8 - 9:45 AM

 

[bagger]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

 

[shadyridr]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

not 3 of the last 4 weeks. Im starting matty ice over him although i do expect a good game from RW

 

[SproutDaddy]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

No he isn't. You obviously don't own him.

 

[bagger]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

No he isn't. You obviously don't own him.

i do and have started him every week except his bye.Overall been happy given the price I paid.

He's the #9 QB in my league and can easily end up between 5-7.

 

[MaxThreshold]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

No he isn't. You obviously don't own him.

i do and have started him every week except his bye.Overall been happy given the price I paid.

He's the #9 QB in my league and can easily end up between 5-7.

Same in my league. He's a solid start every week.

 

[SayWhat?]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

No he isn't. You obviously don't own him.

i do and have started him every week except his bye.Overall been happy given the price I paid.

He's the #9 QB in my league and can easily end up between 5-7.

Same in my league. He's a solid start every week.

Must start and solid start are two entirely different labels IMO. Wilson's far from a must start.

 

[shadyridr]

You guys must like losing 3 of 4

 

[MaxThreshold]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

No he isn't. You obviously don't own him.

i do and have started him every week except his bye.Overall been happy given the price I paid.

He's the #9 QB in my league and can easily end up between 5-7.

Same in my league. He's a solid start every week.

Must start and solid start are two entirely different labels IMO. Wilson's far from a must start.

Sure. IMO he's a Tier 2 QB, so unless you have a Tier 1 QB or a Tier 2 QB of equal value you should start him.

 

[MaxThreshold]

You guys must like losing 3 of 4

I'm 8 - 1 starting Wilson.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Starting Matty Ice over him this week. Will reevaluate (and probably make the wrong decision) every week.

Doing the same. Hoping Atlanta fixed their line a bit over bye. Wilson looked like Dalton throwing the ball last week. I don't like Wilson at home cause defense scores and they run to do I ate the win

 

[seahawk 17]

Wilson is a must start. He has had 1 bad game out of the last three. You have to throw the CAR game out the window as that has been a defensive battle for the last three years. Without looking, I would bet that Carolina has held them to under 14 points all three games.

The last time Wilson had a truly bad game he followed it up with a 300/100 game.

Side note, I don't understand why people remark that they will regret benching him, and then do it anyway?

 

[CapnJB]

Wilson looked like Dalton throwing the ball last week.

Do you know how many starters were out on the offense last week? Do you know how many are back this week? You might want to check that out... you know... if you play fantasy football.

 

[Synthesizer]

You guys must like losing 3 of 4

He's also been the top scoring QB in 2 of the last 5

 

[shadyridr]

You guys must like losing 3 of 4

He's also been the top scoring QB in 2 of the last 5

so he leads you to a 2-3 record

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I'm sticking with Wilson but if he continues to struggle I'm going to switch to Eli. Eli actually has a pretty good playoff schedule (Ten, Was, StL) but he scares me more than Wilson.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Wilson looked like Dalton throwing the ball last week.

Do you know how many starters were out on the offense last week? Do you know how many are back this week? You might want to check that out... you know... if you play fantasy football.

So missing other players make his passes look like dalton? He may bounce back but he passed like a combo of Tebow and Dalton last week. Dalbow

 

[chad in Indy]

You guys must like losing 3 of 4

He's also been the top scoring QB in 2 of the last 5

so he leads you to a 2-3 record

Over past 2 years, his fantasy scoring has had a strong corellation with whether his O-line is healthy. If his line is healthy, I think he falls in the category of must start with a very safe floor of 19-21 pts.

 

[SteelerMurf]

You guys must like losing 3 of 4

He's also been the top scoring QB in 2 of the last 5

And one of worst in 3 of 5.

 

[Bronco Billy]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

Not right now he isn't. If I had started Roethlisberger over him last week the outcome of my game would have been different. Not making that mistake this week. SEA needs to show some life on O before I go back to Wilson.

 

[bagger]

You guys must like losing 3 of 4

well the amazing thing about drafting a qb late is you get good skill positions early.I have won 3 of the last 4 games actually.

 

[bagger]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

Not right now he isn't. If I had started Roethlisberger over him last week the outcome of my game would have been different. Not making that mistake this week. SEA needs to show some life on O before I go back to Wilson.

well if you have a top 3 qb then yes start the top 3 qb.I'll be here all day to help you guys with these tough lineup decisions.

 

[Freelove]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

Not right now he isn't. If I had started Roethlisberger over him last week the outcome of my game would have been different. Not making that mistake this week. SEA needs to show some life on O before I go back to Wilson.

well if you have a top 3 qb then yes start the top 3 qb.I'll be here all day to help you guys with these tough lineup decisions.

Take the day off.

Wilson was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his first year, he was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his second year, and after trading away their best receiver, he's now plunging toward that territory again in a hurry. He's still on pace for career best fantasy numbers in rushing the ball, but he's also now on pace for career worsts passing it. He's only remotely "must start" if you're a delusional Seahawk fan. Otherwise, the numbers say he's a spot starter at best, just as he has been his whole career.

He's a good little QB, but more along the lines of "safe if you haven't got anyone better" for fantasy.

I won't be here all day to help you understand these things.

 

[Synthesizer]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

Not right now he isn't. If I had started Roethlisberger over him last week the outcome of my game would have been different. Not making that mistake this week. SEA needs to show some life on O before I go back to Wilson.

well if you have a top 3 qb then yes start the top 3 qb.I'll be here all day to help you guys with these tough lineup decisions.

Take the day off.

Wilson was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his first year, he was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his second year, and after trading away their best receiver, he's now plunging toward that territory again in a hurry. He's still on pace for career best fantasy numbers in rushing the ball, but he's also now on pace for career worsts passing it. He's only remotely "must start" if you're a delusional Seahawk fan. Otherwise, the numbers say he's a spot starter at best, just as he has been his whole career.

He's a good little QB, but more along the lines of "safe if you haven't got anyone better" for fantasy.

I won't be here all day to help you understand these things.

Even with the pretty bad month, he's still QB8 for the year. He's outscored every QB who was being drafted slightly ahead of him this summer (Ryan, Kaepernick, Stafford, Romo, Foles, Newton, RG3, and Cutler). Being "safe" at QB isn't a bad thing.

 

[MaxThreshold]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

Not right now he isn't. If I had started Roethlisberger over him last week the outcome of my game would have been different. Not making that mistake this week. SEA needs to show some life on O before I go back to Wilson.

well if you have a top 3 qb then yes start the top 3 qb.I'll be here all day to help you guys with these tough lineup decisions.

Take the day off.

Wilson was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his first year, he was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his second year, and after trading away their best receiver, he's now plunging toward that territory again in a hurry. He's still on pace for career best fantasy numbers in rushing the ball, but he's also now on pace for career worsts passing it. He's only remotely "must start" if you're a delusional Seahawk fan. Otherwise, the numbers say he's a spot starter at best, just as he has been his whole career.

He's a good little QB, but more along the lines of "safe if you haven't got anyone better" for fantasy.

I won't be here all day to help you understand these things.

Even with the pretty bad month, he's still QB8 for the year. He's outscored every QB who was being drafted slightly ahead of him this summer (Ryan, Kaepernick, Stafford, Romo, Foles, Newton, RG3, and Cutler). Being "safe" at QB isn't a bad thing.

Especially, as pointed out earlier, if you waited on QB and stocked up on RBs and WRs instead.

 

[No. 16]

Yah crazy how people are expecting Wilson to produce like guys drafted 2+ rounds before him. I grabbed Wilson after drafting Cam early and he has been a godsend.

 

[shadyridr]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

Not right now he isn't. If I had started Roethlisberger over him last week the outcome of my game would have been different. Not making that mistake this week. SEA needs to show some life on O before I go back to Wilson.

well if you have a top 3 qb then yes start the top 3 qb.I'll be here all day to help you guys with these tough lineup decisions.

Take the day off. Wilson was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his first year, he was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his second year, and after trading away their best receiver, he's now plunging toward that territory again in a hurry. He's still on pace for career best fantasy numbers in rushing the ball, but he's also now on pace for career worsts passing it. He's only remotely "must start" if you're a delusional Seahawk fan. Otherwise, the numbers say he's a spot starter at best, just as he has been his whole career.

He's a good little QB, but more along the lines of "safe if you haven't got anyone better" for fantasy.

I won't be here all day to help you understand these things.

Even with the pretty bad month, he's still QB8 for the year. He's outscored every QB who was being drafted slightly ahead of him this summer (Ryan, Kaepernick, Stafford, Romo, Foles, Newton, RG3, and Cutler). Being "safe" at QB isn't a bad thing.

do you consider QB8 who scored under 20 pts three of four games a MUST start?

 

[shadyridr]

Yah crazy how people are expecting Wilson to produce like guys drafted 2+ rounds before him. I grabbed Wilson after drafting Cam early and he has been a godsend.

i think hes performing about as expected and should do good this week. My whole issue is calling him a MUST start.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Yah crazy how people are expecting Wilson to produce like guys drafted 2+ rounds before him. I grabbed Wilson after drafting Cam early and he has been a godsend.

i think hes performing about as expected and should do good this week. My whole issue is calling him a MUST start.

Well, I think that's all relative to how your roster looks. What if he's the only QB on your roster? Is he a must start then?

 

[Bronco Billy]

It's gotten bad. To the point that I just picked up Mark Sanchez and plan to start him over Russel Wilson Week 10.

gl with that.Wilson is a must start every week.

Not right now he isn't. If I had started Roethlisberger over him last week the outcome of my game would have been different. Not making that mistake this week. SEA needs to show some life on O before I go back to Wilson.

well if you have a top 3 qb then yes start the top 3 qb.I'll be here all day to help you guys with these tough lineup decisions.

Take the day off. Wilson was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his first year, he was a borderline starter in 12-teamers his second year, and after trading away their best receiver, he's now plunging toward that territory again in a hurry. He's still on pace for career best fantasy numbers in rushing the ball, but he's also now on pace for career worsts passing it. He's only remotely "must start" if you're a delusional Seahawk fan. Otherwise, the numbers say he's a spot starter at best, just as he has been his whole career.

He's a good little QB, but more along the lines of "safe if you haven't got anyone better" for fantasy.

I won't be here all day to help you understand these things.

Even with the pretty bad month, he's still QB8 for the year. He's outscored every QB who was being drafted slightly ahead of him this summer (Ryan, Kaepernick, Stafford, Romo, Foles, Newton, RG3, and Cutler). Being "safe" at QB isn't a bad thing.

Not sure what your definition of safe is, but mine doesn't include a QB who has scored like a low QB2 or worse more often then not in the past month.

And FWIW, I am a staunch Wilson supporter. I just don't see him getting a lot of help in the passing game.