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QB Russell Wilson, PIT (2 Viewers)

RW stated the following
"We were doing a sled-push thing, and I just tweaked it a little bit," Wilson said of Wednesday's conditioning test. "It was the fourth, fifth time we did the sled push, I felt a little something.
 
RW stated the following
"We were doing a sled-push thing, and I just tweaked it a little bit," Wilson said of Wednesday's conditioning test. "It was the fourth, fifth time we did the sled push, I felt a little something.
Ok that makes more sense. Maybe it tightened up on him overnight.

Regardless, cracks the door for Fields, juuuuuuust a little.
 
I didn't watch the preseason game but read and heard Fields didn't impress. Will be interesting to see who starts at QB the next game. If Wilson does and he shows better then he's got to be the starter.
 
I didn't watch the preseason game but read and heard Fields didn't impress. Will be interesting to see who starts at QB the next game. If Wilson does and he shows better then he's got to be the starter.
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This breakdown of Fields is worth a watch if you have time and are interested in that sort of thing. The 2 fumbles were unacceptable but hard to tell if it was on the backup C or JF. Usually a combination of both. JF showing some real promise. His only incompletion was over 10 yards to the boundary and should have been challenged. Looked like a catch.

Looking forward to seeing Russ in action. Hopefully he plays in the next game.
 
@32BeatWriters
"Russell Wilson might not have the same mobility at 35 that he did in his mid-20s, but he does two things well that the Steelers typically covet. First, he throws a great deep ball. And second, he usually does not put the ball into harm’s way often...They will be counting upon Wilson to add a little spark with play-action and the deep ball."
 
@32BeatWriters
"Russell Wilson might not have the same mobility at 35 that he did in his mid-20s, but he does two things well that the Steelers typically covet. First, he throws a great deep ball. And second, he usually does not put the ball into harm’s way often...They will be counting upon Wilson to add a little spark with play-action and the deep ball."

It's like these people didn't watch him play the last two years.

He was TERRIFIED of turning it over so he held on to the ball way too long and it drove his coaches nuts. And if he was so great at parking the deep ball, it would have kept him employed in Denver.

These folks are wishcasting for a player that's no longer who he was. And now he gets to face the AFC North defenses 6 times? Lol.....glllllllll Russ.
 
I think they conveniently left out his fumbles lost last season as well as his reluctance to pass over the middle of the field.

He is a small, 35 year old man with athletic skills and mobility that have eroded like a castle made of sand. The defensive players he faces are 10+ years younger, faster and freakier than defensive players Russ faced early on and have 15 years of film footage on him.

He's made his money and he is far too smart to revert back to old Wilson and take the abuse. But he's also too proud to admit his best days are behind him. Hard to fault him there. The best want to remain the best and he certainly was amongst them....5 years ago. Tick tock tick tock

And I'm not sure other players like him. Former Seattle players trash him now. He wasn't well received in Denver. Can't imagine a city like Pittsbirgh and more importamtly the current players will embrace him.

But maybe.

Really worried about what this says about Justin Fields. I still have him in a league....don't love this.
 
I think they conveniently left out his fumbles lost last season as well as his reluctance to pass over the middle of the field.

He is a small, 35 year old man with athletic skills and mobility that have eroded like a castle made of sand. The defensive players he faces are 10+ years younger, faster and freakier than defensive players Russ faced early on and have 15 years of film footage on him.

He's made his money and he is far too smart to revert back to old Wilson and take the abuse. But he's also too proud to admit his best days are behind him. Hard to fault him there. The best want to remain the best and he certainly was amongst them....5 years ago. Tick tock tick tock

And I'm not sure other players like him. Former Seattle players trash him now. He wasn't well received in Denver. Can't imagine a city like Pittsbirgh and more importamtly the current players will embrace him.

But maybe.

Really worried about what this says about Justin Fields. I still have him in a league....don't love this.

Will still probably put up high end QB2 numbers though. Man looks like **** every year lately but ugly fantasy points still count.
 
I think they conveniently left out his fumbles lost last season as well as his reluctance to pass over the middle of the field.

He is a small, 35 year old man with athletic skills and mobility that have eroded like a castle made of sand. The defensive players he faces are 10+ years younger, faster and freakier than defensive players Russ faced early on and have 15 years of film footage on him.

He's made his money and he is far too smart to revert back to old Wilson and take the abuse. But he's also too proud to admit his best days are behind him. Hard to fault him there. The best want to remain the best and he certainly was amongst them....5 years ago. Tick tock tick tock

And I'm not sure other players like him. Former Seattle players trash him now. He wasn't well received in Denver. Can't imagine a city like Pittsbirgh and more importamtly the current players will embrace him.

But maybe.

Really worried about what this says about Justin Fields. I still have him in a league....don't love this.

Will still probably put up high end QB2 numbers though. Man looks like **** every year lately but ugly fantasy points still count.
I'm actually not as down on him than others but what is the path to QB2#s? Other than Pickens they don't have much at WR, Arthur Smith is their OC in what should be very run heavy, not sure what current buzz is on this but rumors potentially Fields will be used in GL packages
 
I think they conveniently left out his fumbles lost last season as well as his reluctance to pass over the middle of the field.

He is a small, 35 year old man with athletic skills and mobility that have eroded like a castle made of sand. The defensive players he faces are 10+ years younger, faster and freakier than defensive players Russ faced early on and have 15 years of film footage on him.

He's made his money and he is far too smart to revert back to old Wilson and take the abuse. But he's also too proud to admit his best days are behind him. Hard to fault him there. The best want to remain the best and he certainly was amongst them....5 years ago. Tick tock tick tock

And I'm not sure other players like him. Former Seattle players trash him now. He wasn't well received in Denver. Can't imagine a city like Pittsbirgh and more importamtly the current players will embrace him.

But maybe.

Really worried about what this says about Justin Fields. I still have him in a league....don't love this.

Will still probably put up high end QB2 numbers though. Man looks like **** every year lately but ugly fantasy points still count.
I'm actually not as down on him than others but what is the path to QB2#s? Other than Pickens they don't have much at WR, Arthur Smith is their OC in what should be very run heavy, not sure what current buzz is on this but rumors potentially Fields will be used in GL packages

It's a lower bar to QB2 numbers than you think. He was QB13 or 14 last year (with typical 4 pt passing TD scoring) with a line of 297 att for 3,070 yards, 26/8 TD/INT, and some modest rushing (341/3). That was enough for very high end QB2 numbers.

I personally think the 2023 Broncos WRs (Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton) are a wash to the 2024 Steelers WRs. IMHO until Fields learns to go beyond his first read he seems capped as a QB, so I'm not super worried about him. Shave some fantasy points off for another year older and Arthur Smith offense, and I still think you have a QB2. As shown above, it doesn't take much. Unless you think some other QBs like Geno Smith, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, etc. in the same range are going to go nuts this year and outscore Russ.
 
I think they conveniently left out his fumbles lost last season as well as his reluctance to pass over the middle of the field.

He is a small, 35 year old man with athletic skills and mobility that have eroded like a castle made of sand. The defensive players he faces are 10+ years younger, faster and freakier than defensive players Russ faced early on and have 15 years of film footage on him.

He's made his money and he is far too smart to revert back to old Wilson and take the abuse. But he's also too proud to admit his best days are behind him. Hard to fault him there. The best want to remain the best and he certainly was amongst them....5 years ago. Tick tock tick tock

And I'm not sure other players like him. Former Seattle players trash him now. He wasn't well received in Denver. Can't imagine a city like Pittsbirgh and more importamtly the current players will embrace him.

But maybe.

Really worried about what this says about Justin Fields. I still have him in a league....don't love this.

Will still probably put up high end QB2 numbers though. Man looks like **** every year lately but ugly fantasy points still count.
I'm actually not as down on him than others but what is the path to QB2#s? Other than Pickens they don't have much at WR, Arthur Smith is their OC in what should be very run heavy, not sure what current buzz is on this but rumors potentially Fields will be used in GL packages

It's a lower bar to QB2 numbers than you think. He was QB13 or 14 last year (with typical 4 pt passing TD scoring) with a line of 297 att for 3,070 yards, 26/8 TD/INT, and some modest rushing (341/3). That was enough for very high end QB2 numbers.

I personally think the 2023 Broncos WRs (Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton) are a wash to the 2024 Steelers WRs. IMHO until Fields learns to go beyond his first read he seems capped as a QB, so I'm not super worried about him. Shave some fantasy points off for another year older and Arthur Smith offense, and I still think you have a QB2. As shown above, it doesn't take much. Unless you think some other QBs like Geno Smith, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, etc. in the same range are going to go nuts this year and outscore Russ.
Thing is just struggling to see too much upside. I would take Geno by a mile and would easily take Levis too b/c there's just a higher upside.
 

It's a lower bar to QB2 numbers than you think. He was QB13 or 14 last year (with typical 4 pt passing TD scoring) with a line of 297 att for 3,070 yards, 26/8 TD/INT, and some modest rushing (341/3). That was enough for very high end QB2 numbers.

I personally think the 2023 Broncos WRs (Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton) are a wash to the 2024 Steelers WRs. IMHO until Fields learns to go beyond his first read he seems capped as a QB, so I'm not super worried about him. Shave some fantasy points off for another year older and Arthur Smith offense, and I still think you have a QB2. As shown above, it doesn't take much. Unless you think some other QBs like Geno Smith, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, etc. in the same range are going to go nuts this year and outscore Russ.
Thing is just struggling to see too much upside. I would take Geno by a mile and would easily take Levis too b/c there's just a higher upside.

I think they conveniently left out his fumbles lost last season as well as his reluctance to pass over the middle of the field.

He is a small, 35 year old man with athletic skills and mobility that have eroded like a castle made of sand. The defensive players he faces are 10+ years younger, faster and freakier than defensive players Russ faced early on and have 15 years of film footage on him.

He's made his money and he is far too smart to revert back to old Wilson and take the abuse. But he's also too proud to admit his best days are behind him. Hard to fault him there. The best want to remain the best and he certainly was amongst them....5 years ago. Tick tock tick tock

And I'm not sure other players like him. Former Seattle players trash him now. He wasn't well received in Denver. Can't imagine a city like Pittsbirgh and more importamtly the current players will embrace him.

But maybe.

Really worried about what this says about Justin Fields. I still have him in a league....don't love this.

Will still probably put up high end QB2 numbers though. Man looks like **** every year lately but ugly fantasy points still count.
I'm actually not as down on him than others but what is the path to QB2#s? Other than Pickens they don't have much at WR, Arthur Smith is their OC in what should be very run heavy, not sure what current buzz is on this but rumors potentially Fields will be used in GL packages

It's a lower bar to QB2 numbers than you think. He was QB13 or 14 last year (with typical 4 pt passing TD scoring) with a line of 297 att for 3,070 yards, 26/8 TD/INT, and some modest rushing (341/3). That was enough for very high end QB2 numbers.

I personally think the 2023 Broncos WRs (Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton) are a wash to the 2024 Steelers WRs. IMHO until Fields learns to go beyond his first read he seems capped as a QB, so I'm not super worried about him. Shave some fantasy points off for another year older and Arthur Smith offense, and I still think you have a QB2. As shown above, it doesn't take much. Unless you think some other QBs like Geno Smith, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, etc. in the same range are going to go nuts this year and outscore Russ.
Thing is just struggling to see too much upside. I would take Geno by a mile and would easily take Levis too b/c there's just a higher upside.

Just depends on what you're looking for. If you're in a QB1 redraft league and want upside then Russ isn't for you.

If you're in a Best Ball, Start 2 QB redraft, or SuperFlex redraft and you want fantasy points that will probably be QB16 or above for the season at a cost of ~QB30 ADP, then Russ is your guy. Heck Russ is showing as 117 overall ADP in 2QB leagues right now on FantasyPros.com. That's a stupidly low ranking for him in that format.
 

It's a lower bar to QB2 numbers than you think. He was QB13 or 14 last year (with typical 4 pt passing TD scoring) with a line of 297 att for 3,070 yards, 26/8 TD/INT, and some modest rushing (341/3). That was enough for very high end QB2 numbers.

I personally think the 2023 Broncos WRs (Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton) are a wash to the 2024 Steelers WRs. IMHO until Fields learns to go beyond his first read he seems capped as a QB, so I'm not super worried about him. Shave some fantasy points off for another year older and Arthur Smith offense, and I still think you have a QB2. As shown above, it doesn't take much. Unless you think some other QBs like Geno Smith, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, etc. in the same range are going to go nuts this year and outscore Russ.
Thing is just struggling to see too much upside. I would take Geno by a mile and would easily take Levis too b/c there's just a higher upside.

I think they conveniently left out his fumbles lost last season as well as his reluctance to pass over the middle of the field.

He is a small, 35 year old man with athletic skills and mobility that have eroded like a castle made of sand. The defensive players he faces are 10+ years younger, faster and freakier than defensive players Russ faced early on and have 15 years of film footage on him.

He's made his money and he is far too smart to revert back to old Wilson and take the abuse. But he's also too proud to admit his best days are behind him. Hard to fault him there. The best want to remain the best and he certainly was amongst them....5 years ago. Tick tock tick tock

And I'm not sure other players like him. Former Seattle players trash him now. He wasn't well received in Denver. Can't imagine a city like Pittsbirgh and more importamtly the current players will embrace him.

But maybe.

Really worried about what this says about Justin Fields. I still have him in a league....don't love this.

Will still probably put up high end QB2 numbers though. Man looks like **** every year lately but ugly fantasy points still count.
I'm actually not as down on him than others but what is the path to QB2#s? Other than Pickens they don't have much at WR, Arthur Smith is their OC in what should be very run heavy, not sure what current buzz is on this but rumors potentially Fields will be used in GL packages

It's a lower bar to QB2 numbers than you think. He was QB13 or 14 last year (with typical 4 pt passing TD scoring) with a line of 297 att for 3,070 yards, 26/8 TD/INT, and some modest rushing (341/3). That was enough for very high end QB2 numbers.

I personally think the 2023 Broncos WRs (Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton) are a wash to the 2024 Steelers WRs. IMHO until Fields learns to go beyond his first read he seems capped as a QB, so I'm not super worried about him. Shave some fantasy points off for another year older and Arthur Smith offense, and I still think you have a QB2. As shown above, it doesn't take much. Unless you think some other QBs like Geno Smith, Will Levis, Daniel Jones, etc. in the same range are going to go nuts this year and outscore Russ.
Thing is just struggling to see too much upside. I would take Geno by a mile and would easily take Levis too b/c there's just a higher upside.

Just depends on what you're looking for. If you're in a QB1 redraft league and want upside then Russ isn't for you.

If you're in a Best Ball, Start 2 QB redraft, or SuperFlex redraft and you want fantasy points that will probably be QB16 or above for the season at a cost of ~QB30 ADP, then Russ is your guy. Heck Russ is showing as 117 overall ADP in 2QB leagues right now on FantasyPros.com. That's a stupidly low ranking for him in that format.
I play SF, my opinion is the same. I do agree with you that his ADP is prob a bit too low. Just don't see him as more than an insurance type guy.
 
I'm surprised there's been no talk in here.

I doubt Russ or Fields will lift the offense enough to matter. At this stage of their careers, Fields certainly moves the fantasy needle more than Russ. I'd selfishly love to see Fields get out there and succeed.
 
Debating if Russell Wilson is even worth holding in superflex.
I'm not a big Russ fan for fantasy football, but SF has some value. Since you held on to him this far, why cut bait before week 1? Pickens is dynamic and there will be shots fired with Cal and Van Jefferson. There is a decent chance Russ will be outscore your last flex option the weeks your top 2 QB have a bye/miss time.
 
Calf Tightness? Hmmmmm.....
Russ was voted 1 of 4 team captains. As much as I'd like Fields to be the guy for FF, Russ is the man.

Calf tightness has limited him in practice too. He needs the reps with the guys, so it must be a legit concern. With a leaky OL can't send Russ out there to be a statue. Hopefully the team is being overly cautious and Russ will be fine to run a couple bootlegs and move the pocket. If not, Tomlin should let Fields play so Russ doesn't get killed.
 
Debating if Russell Wilson is even worth holding in superflex.
I'm not a big Russ fan for fantasy football, but SF has some value. Since you held on to him this far, why cut bait before week 1? Pickens is dynamic and there will be shots fired with Cal and Van Jefferson. There is a decent chance Russ will be outscore your last flex option the weeks your top 2 QB have a bye/miss time.
Because he may miss week one with his calf injury. And I think that there's a possibility Justin Fields comes in wins the game and claims the number one job. I'm trying to anticipate that.

I've held on to him for less than a week. My draft was last Saturday. He does have value in superflex but he's still only a number three quarterback barring injury.
 
Debating if Russell Wilson is even worth holding in superflex.
I'm not a big Russ fan for fantasy football, but SF has some value. Since you held on to him this far, why cut bait before week 1? Pickens is dynamic and there will be shots fired with Cal and Van Jefferson. There is a decent chance Russ will be outscore your last flex option the weeks your top 2 QB have a bye/miss time.
Because he may miss week one with his calf injury. And I think that there's a possibility Justin Fields comes in wins the game and claims the number one job. I'm trying to anticipate that.

I've held on to him for less than a week. My draft was last Saturday. He does have value in superflex but he's still only a number three quarterback barring injury.
For me, the ship sailed long ago in any format. He feels like he lost his ability to move in a way that made him successful in Seattle. Age is cruel, and injuries are cruel. Age and injuries together are a death sentence for fantasy production. He can be a good game manager, but that just does not work for fantasy.
 
Debating if Russell Wilson is even worth holding in superflex.
I'm not a big Russ fan for fantasy football, but SF has some value. Since you held on to him this far, why cut bait before week 1? Pickens is dynamic and there will be shots fired with Cal and Van Jefferson. There is a decent chance Russ will be outscore your last flex option the weeks your top 2 QB have a bye/miss time.
Because he may miss week one with his calf injury. And I think that there's a possibility Justin Fields comes in wins the game and claims the number one job. I'm trying to anticipate that.

I've held on to him for less than a week. My draft was last Saturday. He does have value in superflex but he's still only a number three quarterback barring injury.
For me, the ship sailed long ago in any format. He feels like he lost his ability to move in a way that made him successful in Seattle. Age is cruel, and injuries are cruel. Age and injuries together are a death sentence for fantasy production. He can be a good game manager, but that just does not work for fantasy.
I agree. 100%. My question is, is he good enough to even lead a team in the NFL anymore?
 
In fantasy football, Russ is a backup quarterback at best, Justin Fields is a league winner.
Suppose would need the details about your league and who is on the waiver wire that you'd add. Are you saying Fields is on the wire and you want to roster him for upside? That makes sense.

In BB drafts, I picked up Fields in the 18th round as QB3 a ton and only a few shares of Russ. Of all the players available in the last round, Fields' upside >>>>> anyone else. Totally worth a dart throw.
 
In fantasy football, Russ is a backup quarterback at best, Justin Fields is a league winner.
Suppose would need the details about your league and who is on the waiver wire that you'd add. Are you saying Fields is on the wire and you want to roster him for upside? That makes sense.

In BB drafts, I picked up Fields in the 18th round as QB3 a ton and only a few shares of Russ. Of all the players available in the last round, Fields' upside >>>>> anyone else. Totally worth a dart throw.
I waited on QB in a league where guys were hoarding (6 per TD). My options were the likes of Geno, Watson or Levis….so I’m chasing the upside. He’s worth a swing for those who don’t have a stud.
 
In fantasy football, Russ is a backup quarterback at best, Justin Fields is a league winner.
Suppose would need the details about your league and who is on the waiver wire that you'd add. Are you saying Fields is on the wire and you want to roster him for upside? That makes sense.

In BB drafts, I picked up Fields in the 18th round as QB3 a ton and only a few shares of Russ. Of all the players available in the last round, Fields' upside >>>>> anyone else. Totally worth a dart throw.
I waited on QB in a league where guys were hoarding (6 per TD). My options were the likes of Geno, Watson or Levis….so I’m chasing the upside. He’s worth a swing for those who don’t have a stud.
you're rostering Fields over those guys?
 
In fantasy football, Russ is a backup quarterback at best, Justin Fields is a league winner.
Suppose would need the details about your league and who is on the waiver wire that you'd add. Are you saying Fields is on the wire and you want to roster him for upside? That makes sense.

In BB drafts, I picked up Fields in the 18th round as QB3 a ton and only a few shares of Russ. Of all the players available in the last round, Fields' upside >>>>> anyone else. Totally worth a dart throw.
I waited on QB in a league where guys were hoarding (6 per TD). My options were the likes of Geno, Watson or Levis….so I’m chasing the upside. He’s worth a swing for those who don’t have a stud.
you're rostering Fields over those guys?
If chasing "upside" I have to imagine Watson should at least be considered alongside Fields.
 
In fantasy football, Russ is a backup quarterback at best, Justin Fields is a league winner.
Suppose would need the details about your league and who is on the waiver wire that you'd add. Are you saying Fields is on the wire and you want to roster him for upside? That makes sense.

In BB drafts, I picked up Fields in the 18th round as QB3 a ton and only a few shares of Russ. Of all the players available in the last round, Fields' upside >>>>> anyone else. Totally worth a dart throw.
I waited on QB in a league where guys were hoarding (6 per TD). My options were the likes of Geno, Watson or Levis….so I’m chasing the upside. He’s worth a swing for those who don’t have a stud.
you're rostering Fields over those guys?
Yes, in case the injury is significant.
 
Anyone who Rostered Fields in the past knows he can put up huge points running the ball. Makes him easily top 10 QB and probably top 5-6 territory. Arthur Smith already installed plays specifically for Fields in the playbook. He will get some looks even with a healthy Russ.

The other guys are definite maybes. Could Watson, sure. Geno bounce back to 2022 numbers, Possible. Levis could be a sneaky riser on that offense. Question is do you want to roster Fields for a sure thing if he becomes starter or one of the other low end QB who you know is starting but less likely to break into QB1 territory.

I think we've strayed a bit from the Russ convo, but he is the key to unlocking Fields potential. Can Russ get healthy and hold on to the starting role?
 

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