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QB Teddy Bridgewater (2 Viewers)
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mr roboto
Footballguy
From that article, a Zimmer quote...
Teddy can and should be a top 15 QB from a production perspective. You see a different mindset with AP there this year. I want the Vikes coaches to take the training wheels off and make this Teddy's team. He's amazing in the 4th Q when he no longer fears consequences of failure because he needs to score.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I completely agree with what Zimmer is emphasizing about Teddy being too cautious early on in the game. I think what happens is he will have a pre snap read of the defense but he still does not always trust that he has correctly identified the coverage. I have seen him looking at his first read and the player will come open, yet Teddy still hesitates and that hesitation gives the defender an opportunity to recover. The window of the player being open is short and Teddy just needs to throw it and trust what he sees.
Another way the coaches have put this is that Teddy needs to start sooner and he needs to get the ball out quicker.
Another way the coaches have put this is that Teddy needs to start sooner and he needs to get the ball out quicker.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I was thinking about this when reading Cosell's recent back pedal on Teddy.
Montana may not have had a throw through a wall arm either, but he was a very effective QB.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Teddy Bridgewater completes 85% of his 20 pass attempts for 231 passing yards 4 TD 0 Interceptions and a QB rating of 154.4 he also ran 4 times for 17 yards and a TD.
For the season Bridgewater has 403 passing attempts 267 completions 66.3 % 2964 passing yards 13 TD 8 INT
Per game stats 28.8 passing attempts 19 completions 211.7 passing yards .93 TD .57 INT
At this pace Teddy should finish with around 460 passing attempts 305 completions 15TD 9 INT
Last four games
28 passing attempts 20 completions 71% 174 yards 0 TD 1 INT
28 passing attempts 17 completions 61% 118 yards 0 TD 1 INT
36 passing attempts 25 completions 69% 335 yards 1 TD 0 INT
20 passing attempts 17 completions 85% 231 yards 4 TD 0 INT
112 passing attempts 79 completions 71.5% 858 yards 5 TD 2 INT
4 game average
28 passing attempts 19.75 completions 71.5% 214.5 yards 1.25 TD .5 INT
For the season Bridgewater has 403 passing attempts 267 completions 66.3 % 2964 passing yards 13 TD 8 INT
Per game stats 28.8 passing attempts 19 completions 211.7 passing yards .93 TD .57 INT
At this pace Teddy should finish with around 460 passing attempts 305 completions 15TD 9 INT
Last four games
28 passing attempts 20 completions 71% 174 yards 0 TD 1 INT
28 passing attempts 17 completions 61% 118 yards 0 TD 1 INT
36 passing attempts 25 completions 69% 335 yards 1 TD 0 INT
20 passing attempts 17 completions 85% 231 yards 4 TD 0 INT
112 passing attempts 79 completions 71.5% 858 yards 5 TD 2 INT
4 game average
28 passing attempts 19.75 completions 71.5% 214.5 yards 1.25 TD .5 INT
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I liked this fact from yesterday's broadcast...
The last time a Vikings QB threw for four and ran for one was...their very first game as a franchise.
The last time a Vikings QB threw for four and ran for one was...their very first game as a franchise.
tone1oc
Footballguy
Translation: Although we had the greatest, freakiest sex we've had in a long time, we will be returning to missionary this weekend, and no talking please.
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mr roboto
Footballguy
Production isn't performance. His performance vs AZ was better than his production. His production against CHI eclipsed his performance.
Production = yds, TDs aka FF stats
Performance = comp%, DVOA, AYA, TD/INT ratio etc.
Teddy is bottom 1/3 in production. He's middle or top 1/3 in performance. For a 2nd year QB I'd rather have Teddy's year than Bortles. Compiling stats on volume isn't an indication of playing well.
Production = yds, TDs aka FF stats
Performance = comp%, DVOA, AYA, TD/INT ratio etc.
Teddy is bottom 1/3 in production. He's middle or top 1/3 in performance. For a 2nd year QB I'd rather have Teddy's year than Bortles. Compiling stats on volume isn't an indication of playing well.
tone1oc
Footballguy
But scoring TDs is what wins games.. Giving ADP the rock 30 times has not and will not be good enough to beat the good teams.
mr roboto
Footballguy
technically, what wins games is scoring more than your opponent. I have said repeatedly in this thread and others on this board that Teddy is a better quarterback when he does not have Peterson in the backfield. I'm encouraged by his efficiency and generally good decision-making. He still does not have that deep passing game and there's a chance that he may never be proficient at that part of quarterbacking. But I also think Teddy is underrated, especially among the fantasy football community, because they look at boxscores in production which are not necessarily good indicators of whether or not a quarterback is truly performing well.
az_prof
Footballguy
I agree that performing well is more important, but from a fantasy perspective, I still have questions about whether he will ever be better than a mid-range fantasy Qb. My gut tells me no Has there ever been a top 5 type fantasy QB who can't throw the deep ball?mr roboto said:
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
mr roboto
Footballguy
well he actually, demonstrably doesn't suck. Outside of that we don't care.
I dunno man. I haven't watched too much of teddy admittedly but the few games I have watched him in this year I came away thoroughly unimpressed.
Maelstrom
Footballguy
You should watch a few more games. He is playing within the system the Vikings are running, and that means he isn't going to put up gaudy numbers. But if you look at what he does, his talent is pretty undeniable.
mr roboto
Footballguy
I will admit he's been pedestrian from a production standpoint. A lot of that is due to system, O-line weakness and relative lack of talent at WR. And they lean on AP a ton. He needs to get more confident at the downfield passing game.
Having said that he's already an above average starter in the NFL. That's not sucking.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Might want to stick to the right handed passes
Biabreakable
Footballguy
When Bridgewater said he wants to play like Brett Favre I immediately thought to myself nooooooooooo Teddy have you seen all the interceptions Favre has thrown?
But considering how Teddy is somewhat the opposite of Favre when it comes to risk taking, I think the goal of trying to be more agressive, like Favre is perfect for him.
All made sense until they ruled out passes batted down. How are those not a consequence, at least in part, of QB inaccuracy?
I also seem to recall this being a much more common occurance for TB than it ought to have been.
massraider
Footballguy
Someone sticks their arm in the path of the ball, it doesn't mean you were inaccurate.
Passes getting knocked down may be an issue for him, but it has nothing to do with accuracy.
Actually if he is getting the ball batted down because he isn't chosing the right passing lane (or the OL isn't opening good ones) that is an accuracy issue. A QBs trajectory or velocity can also make it easier or harder for linemen to get to the ball.
It isn't all on the QB but it isnt independent of the QB either. Accuracy plays a factor in minimizing batted passes.
It isn't all on the QB but it isnt independent of the QB either. Accuracy plays a factor in minimizing batted passes.
cstu
Footballguy
Neofight
Footballguy
It could be both. Plus mechanics.
