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Interseptopus
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ESPN had an article about winners/losers of the Alex Smith trade. Keenum was a loser, as he is no longer the top QB on the FA market, but they had some interesting things to say about MIN's QB situation. Even saying MIN could go for Cousins... which is possible.
I think Bridgewater is a super sleeper candidate for next season. I've made my thoughts on his future known long ago, and I would be surprised if he was at the same or better than he was before his injury, but I think he should be at least on par with what Keenum did, if not better. And Keenum got them 1 game from the Super Bowl.
MIN is definitely a favorite in my eyes as the 2019 Super Bowl NFC representative. What they do at QB is a major factor though. If they go nuts and go for Cousins I think it's hard to see them losing more than 3-4 games. If they stick with Bridgewater, they should at the very least be a playoff team and a contender for the Super Bowl. But it's so unknown because who knows... Bridgewater could have a pro bowl season. He certainly had the talent before his injury, and from the sounds of it he's looking good since coming back. Something to watch for fantasy purposes because whoever is starting is a pretty big sleeper candidate for someone wanting to wait to draft a QB
Biabreakable
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Rick Spielman answered question about if Bridgewater is eleigable for the 5th year option due to his contract tolling or not.
So he is basically up to the NFLPA as to if this is an option for Spielman or not.
Cjw_55106
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Cmon man. Way too early for this and they have a very tough slate of opponents next season.
Snorkelson
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The north will continue to be a very tough division. MIN will have games vs the eagles, Saints, and rams next year. GB will have Rodgers back and be playing the 3rd place nfc teams, Detroit has some work to do in the trenches roster wise but will probably be in the conversation late in the year. Chicago was better than expected, especially on defense, and will have continuity on that side of the ball. Certainly not a pushover at soldier field and likely will take a step forward imo. Then assuming they get to the playoffs they have to navigate a very competitive nfc. Nfc south is probably the strongest in football, I think the north is close behind.Cjw_55106 said:
Cjw_55106
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They are also at NE. Do I expect it to happen, of course not, but the Vikings could lose all of their away games next season...probably excluding the Jets.
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Add in home games against NO, Buffalo and I think a vastly improved 49ers and saying its hard to see 3-4 losses is ridiculous.
Snorkelson
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Interseptopus
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Them getting Cousins was a qualifier for that statement.Cjw_55106 said:
Their defense is scary good. Give it another year of development and their DBs may be the best group in the league (move over Seattle).
They have the best young RB in the league- likely ROY if he didn't get hurt
Their WRs are among the best duos in the league
Only thing missing is a stud QB... and while Cousins may not be a HOFer he's definitely a very good QB in his prime. If MIN gets Cousins, what is their weak point? IMO none.
If they get Cousins there is no way they lose at CHI, DET, SEA. They may lose at PHI, LAR is a tricky one, GB is always a toss up but MIN has more talent that GB on both sides of the ball today, and NE is NE but we have no idea what NE will look like with another year of aging on their stars. Yes, if they go with Bridgewater I think it's more likely they lose a couple more games than 3-4, but if they upgrade at QB its hard to see them doing worse next year.
They went 13-3 with a third string QB no one seemed to want as their 2nd string and without the next best thing at RB for most of the season. Hard to see them doing worse if they nab the best FA QB to come around in probably the last decade (his age, he's in his prime, and he's had success) and a very likely would have been candidate for ROY at RB.
squistion
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Report: Jets turn attention to Bridgewater with Cousins off market:
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1504125
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1504125
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BigJim®
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I like Zimmer, but not a big fan of him talking about health of a guy who is on a different team now. It's sort of poor form, and probably violating some type of medical privacy.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah Zimmer has a big mouth sometimes.
All he is really saying is what we already knew though. It was a serious injury and no certainty that he will be able to do the things he was doing before the injury. The historical evidence based on their study not very promising. I don't think he really said anything that he hadn't said before. I had heard the prognosis of the earliest the athletes with similar injuries coming back from them being 24 months, from earlier last season when he talked about this then.
Wishing Teddy the best and I hope he can play at a high level again. I am sure Zimmer wishes him the best as well.
All he is really saying is what we already knew though. It was a serious injury and no certainty that he will be able to do the things he was doing before the injury. The historical evidence based on their study not very promising. I don't think he really said anything that he hadn't said before. I had heard the prognosis of the earliest the athletes with similar injuries coming back from them being 24 months, from earlier last season when he talked about this then.
Wishing Teddy the best and I hope he can play at a high level again. I am sure Zimmer wishes him the best as well.
BigJim®
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I don't know, I always assumed Teddy was a huge go-forward risk, but Zimmer did not reveal much after Teddy was activated last season, and there was a cloak of mystery over who would be the 2nd QB for playoffs. Entering the offseason, one report suggested Bridgewater remained Zimmer's choice to become the guy, and what Zimmer did express was concern about Teddy being inactive for the better part of 2 seasons, not concerns about medical recovery. Maybe I'm forgetting other prior Zimmer comments, but my immediate reaction was this seemed like more honesty than he'd ever divulged re: Bridgewater's recovery while he was on the Vikes. The Jets have their own medical experts, so there's just no reason to comment beyond clichéd "we wish Teddy the best."
Biabreakable
Footballguy
He did tip toe around things for sure once Teddy became active last year.
I know I have heard about the study from him before though. That may have been during preseason last year.
Hate to say it but i think the party's over for Teddy. Maybe he can catch on with another team, but prospects just don't seem that great for him.
Dr. Octopus
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Bronco Billy
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Building trade value? Hell, he might be the franchise guy they thought they were getting with Darnold.
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Maybe...but with him on a 1 year, and a top 3 pick this year waiting in the wings, us Jets fans will likely never find out. Even if he throws for 27/10, get the Jets to the AFC championship team, I am not sure they keep him. Think about it, Case Keenum was shown the door, and the heir apparent was not even on the team.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I'm wishing Teddy the best.
Just watching the brief clips of him throwing, I see him still being cautous of his knee in his throwing motion. He doesn't plant and drive with that knee. It kind of lifts up off the ground as he is releasing the ball. He seems to still be being careful about it.
Does anyone else see the same thing?
If Teddy plays well I think Chris point makes sense. There are teams out there who will have interest in trading for him, especially if they have an injury to one of their starters. This is what the Colts did last year once they knew Luck wasn't going to be able to play.
Just watching the brief clips of him throwing, I see him still being cautous of his knee in his throwing motion. He doesn't plant and drive with that knee. It kind of lifts up off the ground as he is releasing the ball. He seems to still be being careful about it.
Does anyone else see the same thing?
If Teddy plays well I think Chris point makes sense. There are teams out there who will have interest in trading for him, especially if they have an injury to one of their starters. This is what the Colts did last year once they knew Luck wasn't going to be able to play.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
FYP - I think it's just a little bit early to already say he's not a franchise QB.
In the Jets thread we already discussed this - but I don't think Teddy gets traded before next offseason at the earliest - but since that would require a tag and trade even that may be difficult. I am a big fan of Teddy and agree that he just may be better than Darnold will ever be. However after the Hackenberg fiasco it would be a pretty tough sell to the fanbase to leave Darnold on the bench in order to give Teddy a second season, unless he just blow everyone away. It would be nothing against him but they can't sit the #3 overall pick for two full seasons.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Understood. I was just injecting my own personal evaluation of Darnold into the response. It’s no secret I’m not high at all on him.
Silver & Black
Footballguy
I'm really happy for the guy. I hope he continues to shine in pre-season and is able to get a trade to another team. It appears that the Jets have their QB of the future in Darnold so I would hate to see Bridgewater wallow on the bench behind him, especially since they have McNown, who is a very able backup. Teddy's been through so much. I'm pulling for him to land as a starter somewhere.
So some journalist found a few good plays that remind him 'how good he was'. I'm sorry he was ok, maybe close to decent but he really wasn't that great.
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