QB Teddy Bridgewater (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

Rotoworld:

NFL Films' Greg Cosell mentioned on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast that he spoke with a source who said Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater weighed 188 pounds at the end of the 2013 season.
This is absolutely the NFL's biggest question regarding Bridgewater, and some buzz has even placed him in the second-round as of late. Teams could be worried that Bridgewater's career could go in the path of early RGIII, in terms of injuries. The two are drastically different players in terms of style, with the main difference being RGIII has a frenetic behavior on the field while Bridgewater does not take unnecessary hits. With that said, Bridgewater breaks the mold of a black pocket passer who might be maxed out at 6'2/214 pounds. The NFL has historically struggled with players that offer unique blends of frame and style.

Source: Ross Tucker Podcast

Like Andy Dalton?

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

Rotoworld:

NFL Films' Greg Cosell mentioned on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast that he spoke with a source who said Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater weighed 188 pounds at the end of the 2013 season.
This is absolutely the NFL's biggest question regarding Bridgewater, and some buzz has even placed him in the second-round as of late. Teams could be worried that Bridgewater's career could go in the path of early RGIII, in terms of injuries. The two are drastically different players in terms of style, with the main difference being RGIII has a frenetic behavior on the field while Bridgewater does not take unnecessary hits. With that said, Bridgewater breaks the mold of a black pocket passer who might be maxed out at 6'2/214 pounds. The NFL has historically struggled with players that offer unique blends of frame and style.

Source: Ross Tucker Podcast

Like Andy Dalton?

Andy Dalton is the real deal. In 5 years when he's stacking pro-bowls on top of pro-bowls, people will finally see the light.

 

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Does anyone have stats on passes Teddy had batted down at the line?

 

[Faust]

Kevin Weidl ‏@KevinW_ESPN 4m

The more I speak w/ coaches/evaluators in the league the more concern I'm hearing about Bridgewater's frame + growth potential as a player.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Ridiculous. People always nitpick players that play a cerebral game at the LOS, and always nitpick players that know how to put touch on passes. Leads to ceiling questions and arm strength questions because the QB is smart enough to work a defense, take what he's given, and not be forced to make as many frozen-rope-wow-plays in between coverages, even if he's capable of them.

Bridgewater is the no-brainer top QB in this draft, and the most NFL-ready. I bet he's wowing teams on the whiteboard.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

Ridiculous. People always nitpick players that play a cerebral game at the LOS, and always nitpick players that know how to put touch on passes. Leads to ceiling questions and arm strength questions because the QB is smart enough to work a defense, take what he's given, and not be forced to make as many frozen-rope-wow-plays in between coverages, even if he's capable of them.

Bridgewater is the no-brainer top QB in this draft, and the most NFL-ready. I bet he's wowing teams on the whiteboard.

Fo sho.

The one thing that separates the elite QBs from the average starting QB is headiness. Heady Teddy will stack pro-bowls upon pro-bowls in the NFL. It has been proven time and again that arm strength alone does not an elite QB make. I'm hoping to nab Teddy with an early 2nd round pick in my dynasty leagues.

 

[duaneok66]

I think that Bridgewater will be a better NFL QB than he will be a fantasy QB.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay discussed a scenario in which Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater could slot to Arizona at No. 20 if he falls out of the top half of the first round.
Kiper added to the discussion in a column published Wednesday, writing: "They are very different players, but like Geno Smith last year, if Bridgewater doesn't go early -- say, by No. 11 to Tennessee -- you could see a big drop because the need goes away." The analyst still rates Bridgewater as the No. 1 QB, as does Rotoworld's Josh Norris.

Source: ESPN's First Draft Podcast

 

[ffgiant]

If Bridgewater goes to a better team, I like his potential to be developed into a franchise QB. Arizona is actually a very good landing spot for him, at least he won't be thrown to the wolves in the first year.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I don't think he drops like Geno even if he makes it past TEN at 11 (doubt it). He'll get Rodgered by a good team that will need a QB replacement in a couple years, because the value will be too good to pass up.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater passed the seven metric "Parcells Rules" and amassed an elite 0.6 percent bad decision rate against BCS opponents, ESPN's KC Joyner writes.
Technically, Bridgewater fell short in one criteria, because he bolted school after his junior year, but Bill Parcells himself ruled that Teddy B gets a free pass because he graduated in December. Joyner's research showed that Bridgewater made zero mistakes on passes thrown 10 or fewer yards downfield, and a spectacular 1.8 percent BDR on vertical passes (slightly worse than Andrew Luck's rate, and much better than Robert Griffin III and Cam Newton). "History shows players of this caliber are very rare, and that scarcity should make Bridgewater one of the top picks in the 2014 NFL draft," Joyner writes in summation of the in-depth study. "If he slides down the board at all, he could develop into one of this year's draft steals."

Source: ESPN Insider

 

[Faust]

Teddy Bridgewater working with Brandon Marshall, Jay Cutler

 

[Sabertooth]

He's small. He could get hurt. Like Aaron Rodgers got hurt this year. Would hate to have Bridgewater's career go the route of Aaron Rodgers.

Rotoworld:

NFL Films' Greg Cosell mentioned on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast that he spoke with a source who said Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater weighed 188 pounds at the end of the 2013 season.
This is absolutely the NFL's biggest question regarding Bridgewater, and some buzz has even placed him in the second-round as of late. Teams could be worried that Bridgewater's career could go in the path of early RGIII, in terms of injuries. The two are drastically different players in terms of style, with the main difference being RGIII has a frenetic behavior on the field while Bridgewater does not take unnecessary hits. With that said, Bridgewater breaks the mold of a black pocket passer who might be maxed out at 6'2/214 pounds. The NFL has historically struggled with players that offer unique blends of frame and style.

Source: Ross Tucker Podcast

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't think he drops like Geno even if he makes it past TEN at 11 (doubt it). He'll get Rodgered by a good team that will need a QB replacement in a couple years, because the value will be too good to pass up.

I could see this happening with any of the QB prospects. I'd love to see one of them go to Denver or New England.

 

[Faust]

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Teddy Bridgewater: "His private workouts have also gone very shakily." Teams concerned about Teddy's hand size.

 

[jonboltz]

Sounds like Minnesota and Tennessee have been very busy speaking to agents and sources this draft season.

 

[LawFitz]

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Teddy Bridgewater: "His private workouts have also gone very shakily." Teams concerned about Teddy's hand size.

Aaron Rodgers hand size: 9 3/8 in

Teddy Bridgewater hand size: 9 1/4 in

 

[ffgiant]

I don't think he will be drafted in the first round any more with all the bad news today:

Teddy struggling in private workouts.

Teddy Bridgewater scored a 20 in Wonderlic exam.

 

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I don't think he will be drafted in the first round any more with all the bad news today:

Teddy struggling in private workouts.

Teddy Bridgewater scored a 20 in Wonderlic exam.

PM me if you want to bet on it.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The workouts must be racist

 

[jurb26]

I don't think he will be drafted in the first round any more with all the bad news today:

Teddy struggling in private workouts.

Teddy Bridgewater scored a 20 in Wonderlic exam.

PM me if you want to bet on it.

I want in too.

 

[jonboltz]

SOD.

 

[Faust]

Bridgewater’s agent responds to report of “shaky” workoutsPosted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2014, 12:35 PM EDT

The glove-free Pro Day workout from former Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater placed extra pressure on him for any and all private workouts with teams. But since private workouts are (duh) private, there’s no way for anyone to scrutinize the things Bridgewater may be doing when throwing for one team at a time.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN nevertheless has reported that Bridgewater’s private workouts have been “shaky,” a broad observation that implies the receipt of accurate observation from every team for whom Bridgewater has worked out — which is in this context a virtual impossibility. Teams lie as a matter of habit in the weeks preceding the draft, and any team that would say bad things about Bridgewater may want Bridgewater to linger on the board long enough for that team to get him. Or to get a second shot at him in a later round.

Not surprisingly, then, Bridgewater’s agent, Kennard McGuire, has responded to the report via text and email to PFT.

For starters, McGuire says that Bridgewater has had only one private workout. Which necessarily contradicts the notion that Bridgewater has had shaky workouts.

“I have a tremendous amount of respect for journalists who work in this new age of media,” McGuire said via email. “While I am certain this statement wasn’t intended to be misleading, it is my duty to remove and eliminate any doubt. Teddy has visited multiple teams with more workouts and visits coming in the near future. The assessment we received from the one workout was ‘simply amazing and sharp,’ and we expect nothing short or less than stellar in the upcoming workouts in the very near future.”

McGuire said another workout will happen today, which will be Bridgewater’s second. More workouts will come. And whatever teams say on or off the record about the prviate workouts can’t be trusted. Too much is riding on the ability of teams to get the guys they want in the draft. Jobs, in some cases, are riding on the way the draft dominoes fall.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport has heard form two personnel "chiefs" who believe Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater is the top prospect at the position.
"Other views range wildly," Rapoport added. "This year’s QBs: Pick your flavor?" So much of the recent buzz surrounding Teddy has focused on his lean frame and quiet demeanor. However, few have questioned his on-field passing skills as a whole. He could be a top 10 pick or fall into the second-round. Bridgewater's range is that large.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater to work out for Minnesota VikingsBy Mike Huguenin

College Football 24/7 writer

Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater will work out for the Minnesota Vikings on Saturday, and NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport reports that Bridgewater also will meet with Vikings officials Sunday and Monday.

Representatives from the Vikings held a private meeting with Bridgewater two days before his pro day workout. Minnesota, which needs a quarterback, has the No. 8 pick in the first round.

Bridgewater previously had worked out only for the Cleveland Browns, Rapoport reports. Cleveland owns the No. 4 pick.

Bridgewater met with Tampa Bay Buccaneers officials earlier in the week. The Bucs have the seventh pick, though Tampa Bay's need for a quarterback isn't as great as Cleveland's and Minnesota's.

Minnesota has Matt Cassel and 2011 first-round pick Christian Ponder on the roster, but neither is considered the long-term answer at quarterback.

Bridgewater spent much of the 2013 season considered to be the most pro-ready quarterback. But following a less-than-stellar pro day workout, Bridgewater seemingly has fallen on draft boards.

The differences of opinions on Bridgewater are reflected in the mock drafts on NFL.com. NFL Media analyst Charles Davis has Bridgewater going fourth, to Cleveland; Bridgewater is the first quarterback off the board in Davis' mock.

Fellow analyst Daniel Jeremiah also has Bridgewater going to Cleveland -- but at No. 26, with the Browns' second first-round pick; Bridgewater is the fourth quarterback selected in Jeremiah's mock. And analyst Mike Mayock has Bridgewater as his No. 3 quarterback, behind UCF's Blake Bortles and Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel.

Mike Huguenin can be reached at mike.huguenin@nfl.com. You also can follow him on Twitter @MikeHuguenin.

 

[DAG]

Bridgewater’s agent responds to report of “shaky” workouts

Posted by Mike Florio on April 12, 2014, 12:35 PM EDT

The glove-free Pro Day workout from former Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater placed extra pressure on him for any and all private workouts with teams. But since private workouts are (duh) private, there’s no way for anyone to scrutinize the things Bridgewater may be doing when throwing for one team at a time.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN nevertheless has reported that Bridgewater’s private workouts have been “shaky,” a broad observation that implies the receipt of accurate observation from every team for whom Bridgewater has worked out — which is in this context a virtual impossibility. Teams lie as a matter of habit in the weeks preceding the draft, and any team that would say bad things about Bridgewater may want Bridgewater to linger on the board long enough for that team to get him. Or to get a second shot at him in a later round.

Not surprisingly, then, Bridgewater’s agent, Kennard McGuire, has responded to the report via text and email to PFT.

For starters, McGuire says that Bridgewater has had only one private workout. Which necessarily contradicts the notion that Bridgewater has had shaky workouts.

“I have a tremendous amount of respect for journalists who work in this new age of media,” McGuire said via email. “While I am certain this statement wasn’t intended to be misleading, it is my duty to remove and eliminate any doubt. Teddy has visited multiple teams with more workouts and visits coming in the near future. The assessment we received from the one workout was ‘simply amazing and sharp,’ and we expect nothing short or less than stellar in the upcoming workouts in the very near future.”

McGuire said another workout will happen today, which will be Bridgewater’s second. More workouts will come. And whatever teams say on or off the record about the prviate workouts can’t be trusted. Too much is riding on the ability of teams to get the guys they want in the draft. Jobs, in some cases, are riding on the way the draft dominoes fall.

I have no problem believing that Mortensen is unwittingly and/or lazily carrying the water for NFL GMs looking to drive down Bridgewater's value with negative workout reports. This seems like ESPN's primary "journalistic" value this time of year.

 

[LawFitz]

How embarrassing for Mort. You're better than that, dude.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Small hands, thin frame, poorly planned workouts and now a low Wonderlic for Teddy. Yikes. I don't think teams are blowing smoke here.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Small hands, thin frame, poorly planned workouts and now a low Wonderlic for Teddy. Yikes. I don't think teams are blowing smoke here.

20 on the wonderlick isn't egregiously low either. small frame, hands, etc. all overblown. It's like a political smear campaign that people have gone to great lengths and expense to whip up. I don't trust the news, all of it smells like a rat. Looks like folks are hoping he falls so they can scoop him up cheap. Steal of the draft.

 

[jurb26]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Small hands, thin frame, poorly planned workouts and now a low Wonderlic for Teddy. Yikes. I don't think teams are blowing smoke here.

Waldman would have some choice words for you, sir.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Small hands, thin frame, poorly planned workouts and now a low Wonderlic for Teddy. Yikes. I don't think teams are blowing smoke here.

20 on the wonderlick isn't egregiously low either. small frame, hands, etc. all overblown. It's like a political smear campaign that people have gone to great lengths and expense to whip up. I don't trust the news, all of it smells like a rat. Looks like folks are hoping he falls so they can scoop him up cheap. Steal of the draft.

He almost bombed the test. I want to ignore it all too. I can't. You have to downgrade him. I'm sure a team that doesn't care about all of this will still make the pick because of the tape. I'm a fan. He's still a talent at an important position, but he wouldn't be the first guy to destroy college football and then flop due to size and mental makeup.

#SB this class of QB is looking like last years now. The Luck, Foles, RG3, Wilson class was too good to be true.

 

[Grahamburn]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

It is impossible to know how much is true and we will never know.

Whoever takes Teddy is going to say he is the best QB in the draft and he was the number 1 QB on their draft board. I don't think Teddy falls out of the first round. I still think he is the safest QB in the draft.

 

[jonboltz]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Small hands, thin frame, poorly planned workouts and now a low Wonderlic for Teddy. Yikes. I don't think teams are blowing smoke here.

20 on the wonderlick isn't egregiously low either. small frame, hands, etc. all overblown. It's like a political smear campaign that people have gone to great lengths and expense to whip up. I don't trust the news, all of it smells like a rat. Looks like folks are hoping he falls so they can scoop him up cheap. Steal of the draft.

He almost bombed the test. I want to ignore it all too. I can't. You have to downgrade him. I'm sure a team that doesn't care about all of this will still make the pick because of the tape. I'm a fan. He's still a talent at an important position, but he wouldn't be the first guy to destroy college football and then flop due to size and mental makeup.

#SB this class of QB is looking like last years now. The Luck, Foles, RG3, Wilson class was too good to be true.

I still have Teddy B at the top of this QB class, and I don't see him falling from his pedestal. Having said that, I'm downgrading him from where I had him earlier in the offseason. Teddy is still the QB I hope my team gets an opportunity to draft. But he doesn't have the big arm to challenge defenses deep. Honestly, I don't see any QB in the draft that can do it consistently. There are some big arms, but not nearly accurate enough to threaten NFL defenses. I wish Teddy would be that guy, but I don't think he'll ever be an "elite" passer. Still, I think he can be an average to very good starting NFL QB for a team that builds talent around him. But without a big arm, it's hard to see him carry a team the way some others do.

 

[jurb26]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

 

[Grahamburn]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

 

[jurb26]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

What about the under ware Olympics that these prospects go through in the offseason is more applicable to NFL conditions than the actual games?

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

The problem is there is no way to replicate an NFL sunday. Although you can use everything as a sum to try and determine what value that you put on a player it is impossible to know for sure. I think more emphasis should be put on actual game film then some drills and measureables at the combine. I think the interviews and finding out how much a player actually knows is probably more relevant for QB's than other positions so that would be something that could help as well.

 

[jonboltz]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

When I think about "NFL conditions", of course the first thing that comes to mind is a guy working out by himself, and sometimes playing catch with a buddy.

 

[ShaHBucks]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

What about the under ware Olympics that these prospects go through in the offseason is more applicable to NFL conditions than the actual games?

This is a job interview. He couldn't even plan a freaking workout. Now we are trying to project how he will handle being a leader, franchise QB ect..

 

[ShaHBucks]

Small hands, thin frame, poorly planned workouts and now a low Wonderlic for Teddy. Yikes. I don't think teams are blowing smoke here.

20 on the wonderlick isn't egregiously low either. small frame, hands, etc. all overblown. It's like a political smear campaign that people have gone to great lengths and expense to whip up. I don't trust the news, all of it smells like a rat. Looks like folks are hoping he falls so they can scoop him up cheap. Steal of the draft.

He almost bombed the test. I want to ignore it all too. I can't. You have to downgrade him. I'm sure a team that doesn't care about all of this will still make the pick because of the tape. I'm a fan. He's still a talent at an important position, but he wouldn't be the first guy to destroy college football and then flop due to size and mental makeup.

#SB this class of QB is looking like last years now. The Luck, Foles, RG3, Wilson class was too good to be true.

I still have Teddy B at the top of this QB class, and I don't see him falling from his pedestal. Having said that, I'm downgrading him from where I had him earlier in the offseason. Teddy is still the QB I hope my team gets an opportunity to draft. But he doesn't have the big arm to challenge defenses deep. Honestly, I don't see any QB in the draft that can do it consistently. There are some big arms, but not nearly accurate enough to threaten NFL defenses. I wish Teddy would be that guy, but I don't think he'll ever be an "elite" passer. Still, I think he can be an average to very good starting NFL QB for a team that builds talent around him. But without a big arm, it's hard to see him carry a team the way some others do.

I agree, especially with the bolded.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

What about the under ware Olympics that these prospects go through in the offseason is more applicable to NFL conditions than the actual games?

This is a job interview. He couldn't even plan a freaking workout. Now we are trying to project how he will handle being a leader, franchise QB ect..

You have zero idea how well he did in interviews, in personal workouts etc. The problem is that we are guessing as to what is true or not. Teddy is widely recognized as a smart QB and one that knows the x's and o's really well. He of all the qb's in this years draft ran the most NFL ready offense and had the most control at the LOS. You seem to be falling into the trap of all of the negative media being thrown his way as opposed to seeing some of it as garbage.

 

[Grahamburn]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

When I think about "NFL conditions", of course the first thing that comes to mind is a guy working out by himself, and sometimes playing catch with a buddy.

Teddy seems to be struggling to make NFL throws while working out by himself or playing catch with a buddy. Imagine how he'll fare when there are actual fast people chasing him.

 

[jurb26]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

When I think about "NFL conditions", of course the first thing that comes to mind is a guy working out by himself, and sometimes playing catch with a buddy.

Teddy seems to be struggling to make NFL throws while working out by himself or playing catch with a buddy. Imagine how he'll fare when there are actual fast people chasing him.

Which is funny... Seeing he has no trouble making NFL throws in the actual games he played in. I guess he's come down with a temporary arm disease that hasn't been disclosed to the public. Don't get me wrong. Bridgewater is an elite arm talent in the range of say Stafford or Luck. He can make all the NFL throws though. That should be one of your big red flags right there.

These are private workouts. We have no idea what is happening on them. We do have access to the actual games they played. I'll stick to what I can see rather than the stories these media outlets want to tell.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

When I think about "NFL conditions", of course the first thing that comes to mind is a guy working out by himself, and sometimes playing catch with a buddy.

Teddy seems to be struggling to make NFL throws while working out by himself or playing catch with a buddy. Imagine how he'll fare when there are actual fast people chasing him.

Where are you watching all of these throws being missed with Teddy to his buddies? Or are you just being fed a lot of these things from some media reports that don't know are completely true. His pro day was far from elite, but if every NFL team went only off great pro days the NFL would have countless teams with starting QB's like JaMarcus Russell types.

 

[ShaHBucks]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

What about the under ware Olympics that these prospects go through in the offseason is more applicable to NFL conditions than the actual games?

This is a job interview. He couldn't even plan a freaking workout. Now we are trying to project how he will handle being a leader, franchise QB ect..

You have zero idea how well he did in interviews, in personal workouts etc. The problem is that we are guessing as to what is true or not. Teddy is widely recognized as a smart QB and one that knows the x's and o's really well. He of all the qb's in this years draft ran the most NFL ready offense and had the most control at the LOS. You seem to be falling into the trap of all of the negative media being thrown his way as opposed to seeing some of it as garbage.

Call it what you will. I hardly pay attention to the media, but you can see why he's been fading now. You have to think, NFL teams had all of his official combine data for a while now. We get this info 'leaked' later. It's starting to all come together.

 

[jonboltz]

The smear campaigns really are getting out of hand. Comical and absurd at the same time.

What makes you think they're all smear campaigns?

His tape.

Yup. Watch him play. This offseason fodder is getting out of control. It happens with lots of the top guys, see Clowney as well.

Players who dominate in college struggle in the NFL all the time. That's why teams attend the combine, pro days, and have private workouts. They want to see if players can succeed under NFL conditions.

When I think about "NFL conditions", of course the first thing that comes to mind is a guy working out by himself, and sometimes playing catch with a buddy.

Teddy seems to be struggling to make NFL throws while working out by himself or playing catch with a buddy. Imagine how he'll fare when there are actual fast people chasing him.

You are right, playing catch with a buddy is much more like the NFL than his college tape.

 

[Grahamburn]

All I'm saying is i don't think there are as many "smokescreens" as some people are insinuating. The questions being raised on all of these prospects are seemingly legitimate. Once the tape is off the NFL evaluators really get to probe these kids, and they tend to focus on the negative aspects of their games more than the positive ones. Especially in the top half of the first round. Somebody has to fall. They can't all be picked in the top 10.