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QB Teddy Bridgewater (1 Viewer)

Rotoworld:

Vikings coach Mike Zimmer wants Teddy Bridgewater to put on weight this offseason.

"He needs to add a little more strength," said Zimmer. "He's about 210 pounds, we're trying to get him around 218." Putting on 10-15 pounds would give Bridgewater a similar physique to Robert Griffin III (6'2"/222) and Aaron Rodgers (6'2"/225). Adding muscle could improve Bridgewater's deep ball while helping him shed more tacklers. The 22-year-old is hoping to build off a respectable rookie season that included 14 touchdown passes and 209 yards rushing.

Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune
Mar 23 - 12:15 PM
 
"[The pro day] really didn't matter," coach Mike Zimmer said last week at the NFL owners meetings. "And that's the thing about scouting -- you think you've got the right guy and all this stuff, and you never really know. We didn't really know about Teddy or anybody else in the draft. I shouldn't say that like that, but you know what I mean; there's so many hits and misses in different areas. I just like the player. He might miss three throws a practice. His accuracy -- in games, but especially in practices -- is like, 'Oh my goodness.'"
 
Re-drafting the 2014 quarterback class

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Teddy Bridgewater has an old man's game in the best way possible. He's crafty and composed. He's the pickup basketball player who doesn't wow you with his physical skills, but keeps running the point for the winning side.

In a league in which the best quarterbacks win before the snap, Bridgewater showed more sustainable traits than any of his rookie classmates. He was accurate, especially on in-breaking routes. He was very calm in the pocket despite poor pass protection. By December, he had cut down on his mental mistakes and started to throw more beauties. His season had an arc to it; you could see his weekly improvement. With the help of Norv Turner, the Vikings' offense looked professional. Bridgewater led the way despite a shaky receiver group.

Bridgewater's five-game closing December sprint was often brilliant and showed his floor as a mid-range NFL starter like Alex Smith or Andy Dalton. Teddy's arm strength and deep ball accuracy are open questions that could limit his ceiling, but Bridgewater is off to a great start. He has the potential to develop into an upper echelon distributor in the mold of Drew Brees. It would be a surprise if he's not still starting in the league in eight years.
I keep dorky, made-up stats that are better kept to myself. Going into December, there was very little separation between the top four quarterbacks. And then Bridgewater took off. ProFootballFocus had Bridgewater rated as their best quarterback in the final month of the season. While I wouldn't go that far, his five-game run was easily the best stretch by any rookie all season.
Draftniks excoriated any writer who suggested Bridgewater was athletic, noting that he's going to win from the pocket. That's absolutely true, but his athleticism and arm were undersold. He's not going to rack up rushing yards, but scrambling became a big part of his game down the stretch. He can make defenders miss and pull off some nifty plays to avoid pressure. That's huge for a quarterback who always seems to know where his secondary receivers will be.
 
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I think he's going to be a solid QB that will win games for the Vikes for quite a few years. Much better real game than fantasy. My prediction is a top 10 NFL QB overall as measured by effectiveness for his team, but hanging around 12-15 fantasy wise is probably ceiling.

 
A few highlights from that article...
One of the stats that we've mentioned on several occasions is how Bridgewater graded out under pressure from the folks at Pro Football Focus. According to PFF, Bridgewater had the highest accuracy percentage in the National Football League in 2014 when he was under pressure. That's not just among rookies, mind you, that's considering every quarterback across the entire league. He had an Accuracy Percentage under pressure of 75.2%, which was nearly two full percentage points higher than the next-highest graded quarterback.

For a guy that faced as much pressure as Bridgewater did. . .and, according to PFF, only three quarterbacks (Russell Wilson, Josh McCown, and Geno Smith) saw pressure on a higher percentage of their dropbacks than Bridgewater's 39.9%. . .being able to respond the way he did was pretty impressive for anybody, let alone a guy that has just 12 NFL starts under his belt.

Bridgewater also had a terrific season-long showing in the bad decision rate (BDR) metric that gauges how often a quarterback makes a mental error that leads to a turnover opportunity for the opposing team. His 0.5 percent BDR is a Tom Brady-in-his-prime-caliber number and indicates Bridgewater made that sort of mental error once in every 200 pass attempts.

The league-wide BDR average is usually about 2 percent (once every 50 passes) and the elite bar is 1 percent (once every 100 passes). Bridgewater had a 0.6 percent BDR against BCS-caliber conference opponents in his last year at Louisville, so this is par for the course for him, but it sure isn't par for the course for most rookie quarterbacks.

Any time a quarterback can draw a comparison to "Tom Brady in his prime," it's a pretty big deal. Seriously, even Tom Brady wasn't "Tom Brady in his prime" after 12 NFL starts. The fact that Bridgewater is putting up that sort of metric now is reason for plenty of optimism.
 
Where do you guys think Bridgewater can finish at the end of the year at QB...?

How far out of the question is top 10?

A knee-jerk reaction thought for me, estimated him to *possibly* finish near 14-16 or so, which means he could be a spot starter or matchup streamer at times.

Its apparent he has picked up some weapons this year, and was certainly looking strong at the end of the year.

I have been debating in the back of my mind about targeting this guy as a possible #2 QB if I miss the others I am trying to nab in leagues this year.

(I may get him + someone else towards the end of drafts, if I miss on the guys I want earlier)

He is one guy I don't know much about, apart from a few games near the end of last season.

And one thing thats pretty much not talked about is his scrambling, especially compared to others.

Some input on this would be appreciated.

TZM

 
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It's his second season and he's only 23. I like him for around a top 15'ish finish, which to me, would be fine. Keep showing continued development year over year.

 
TZMarkie said:
Where do you guys think Bridgewater can finish at the end of the year at QB...?

How far out of the question is top 10?

A knee-jerk reaction thought for me, estimated him to *possibly* finish near 14-16 or so, which means he could be a spot starter or matchup streamer at times.

Its apparent he has picked up some weapons this year, and was certainly looking strong at the end of the year.

I have been debating in the back of my mind about targeting this guy as a possible #2 QB if I miss the others I am trying to nab in leagues this year.

(I may get him + someone else towards the end of drafts, if I miss on the guys I want earlier)

He is one guy I don't know much about, apart from a few games near the end of last season.

And one thing thats pretty much not talked about is his scrambling, especially compared to others.

Some input on this would be appreciated.
If you would like to know more about him I suggest reading the thread. There is a ton of great information and analysis about him linked throughout.

This perhaps got buried on the last post of the previous page: Forty-Five Minutes Of Teddy Bridgewater

If you want to see him play just watch that. It includes all of his pass attempts from the 13 games he played last season.

As far as how well Bridgewater will perform as a second year QB?

In Bridgewaters rookie season the Vikings ran 981 total plays of offense. This was without Peterson who would have been and still will be the focal point of the offense in 2015. The Vikings have also upgraded their defense. Historically Mike Zimmer has done very well in his second season as defensive coordinator, having top 5 defenses with Dallas and the Bengals in his second season. The defense improved significantly in 2014. I expect them to get better against the run in particular, which was still below league average last season.

The Vikings had 18 interceptions collectively which if reduced due to Bridgewater being more experienced and better support from the running game would lead to more plays from uninterrupted drives. Similarly the Vikings gave up 51 sacks in 2014 which can kill drives. The Vikings offensive line had injuries to two starters and Matt Kalil played very poorly up until the last few games of the season. While Bridgewater is elusive with good awareness of the pass rush and ability to step up or escape the pocket under pressure, he was pressured far too much. This is perhaps the issue with the most uncertainty for me as far as how well Kalil will play in 2015. If he gets to even a average level of LT play this should reduce a lot of the pressure that Bridgewater faced last season. LG Brandon Fusco was out with an injury almost all of 2014 so his return is a plus at either guard position. The Vikings are putting their best guard next to Kalil to try to help him out this season. Phil Loadholt also missed several games in 2014. He is more of a run blocker than being good in pass protection. He struggles with speed pass rushers a lot. But he has played at a high level for most of his career. The main question is who will now play RG with Fusco moved to the left side. Overall I can see the sacks being around 40 in 2015 which would lead to more offensive plays.

The Vikings were 26th in the league in 1st downs.gained at 288. The league average was 320. I think the Vikings can at least be an average offense in terms of 1st downs in 2015 which would lead to more offensive plays.

Because of the confluence of improved offense from Bridgewater being more experienced, Peterson's return, a healthy offensive line and improved defense, the Vikings should run more offensive plays in 2015.

I see the Vikings having 1020-1040-1060 total offensive plays. I had this a bit higher a week or so ago when talking about Peterson. Trying to be reasonable here. Maybe this is still too optimistic?

The Vikings ran the ball 42% of the offensive plays without Peterson in 2014. The Vikings ran the ball 41.8% of the plays in 2013 and 48.6% in 2012. This is Teddy Bridgewaters offense now. I see the Vikings running the ball 44% of the plays in 2015 which is the average of the last 3 seasons. Norv Turner likes to have a balanced offense and they will use Peterson a lot as long as he is healthy. If the defense does improve as I expect it to this may cause the Vikings to run the ball more being able to preserve a lead. I could see the Vikings running the ball 45% or maybe even 46% of the time if they do have a lead and the running game is working well. That was a missing element of the offense last season.

At 44% run to pass ratio this would be 571-582-594 pass attempts - 40 sacks = 531-542-554 passing attempts.

At 45% run to pass ratio this would be 561-572-583 pass attempts - 40 sacks = 521-532-543 passing attempts.

At 46% run to pass ratio this would be 550-562-572 pass attempts -40 sacks = 510-522-532 passing attempts.

So putting it all together the Vikings should throw the ball 521-532-543 times.

Bridgewater had 402 passing attempts in 13 games as a rookie in 2014. This is about 31 pass attempts per game which would be 494 over 16 games.

Bridgewater has an astounding 64.4% completion rate in 2014. If Bridgewater were able to maintain that in 2015 335-342-350 completions. Last season he had 259 completions in 13 games which is about 20 per game and would be 318 over 16 games.

Teddy Bridgewater had a 7.3 yards per attempt which was 14th out of the top 33 QBs Yards per completion was 11.3 which was 23rd out of 33QB.

Yards per attempt 3803-3883-3963 passing yards. Yards per completion 3786-3864-3955 passing yards. Bridgewater lost 6 yards/sack which would be -240 passing yards.

So 2015 3555-3634-3719 passing yards. I think there is potential for this to be higher if Bridgewater is only sacked 30 times for example or if the yards per completion are higher which they could be.

Bridgewater TD% was 26th in the league as a rookie at 3.5%/attempt. I could see this improving because of additional experience, improved play action because of Peterson, a healthy Kyle Rudolph, Mike Wallace, better offensive line play. The league average is 4.5% and I could see Bridgewater doing that in 2015. This would be 23-24 TD.

Bridgewater is a mobile QB and HC Mike Zimmer mentioned to the media that he wants Bridgewater to run when that is the best option for the play. Still Bridgewater is always looking to throw the ball, even to a fault as I recall one play on either 3rd or 4th down where he scrambles and easily could have run for the 1st down but he instead tried to throw the ball which ended up incomplete causing either a punt or a field goal.

He did run for 209 yards and 1 TD in 13 games. Over 16 games this would be 16 yards/game or 257 rushing yards. With perhaps 1-2 TD.

I see Bridgewater throwing seven to nine interceptions this season. A few of the twelve he threw last season were not really on him and hopefully mistakes like drops leading to tipped passes that are intercepted don't happen as often in 2015.

This would be 262.26 points in a standard scoring league.

According to PFR (where I pulled all this information from) 262 points was what Joe Flacco scored last season. Flacco was the 13th QB in fantasy.

Numberfire has Bridgewater projected for 546 pass attempts 332 completions 3753 passing yards 21TD 16 interceptions 226 rushing yards 2 rushing TD. So it pretty close to my numbers except they have him with slightly more pass attempts and a lot more interceptions. They have Bridgewater scoring as the 19th overall QB in 2015.
 
If you would like to know more about him I suggest reading the thread. There is a ton of great information and analysis about him linked throughout.

This perhaps got buried on the last post of the previous page: Forty-Five Minutes Of Teddy Bridgewater

If you want to see him play just watch that. It includes all of his pass attempts from the 13 games he played last season.
Thank you for the information Biabreakable.

Though I haven't had a chance to look it all over it yet. I will soon, and the material with Bridgewater throwing is most interesting to me.

I did go back and look at a bunch of posts, especially earlier in the thread.

But as I'm sure you know, the majority of the stuff is older, and geared towards last year. (especially earlier in the thread)

How highly he is being pursued in drafts will be interesting as the season approaches.

I can't help but get the feeling we are in store for a big breakout by Bridgewater.

Exactly how high he can finish I don't know, but I wouldn't be too shocked if he finished right near the top 10 mark.

Its doubtful he moves up quite that much, but he seems to have the talent and the offense in general looks to be on the uptick.

He may well be one I target late in drafts, if I miss out on a few others I am high on.

Thanks again for the effort you put into that post.

TZM

 
Ready for an encore? Evaluating sophomore QBs

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Teddy Bridgewater2014 IN REVIEW

Carr was the top scoring rookie fantasy quarterback in 2014, but not by much. Bridgewater finished fewer than 13 points behind while making four fewer starts. Bridgewater's numbers weren't eye-popping (2,919 yards, 14 TDs, 12 INTs), but his fantasy totals were good enough to land him in the top 25 at the position. Teddy Two Gloves made his first appearance in Week 3, relieving an injured Matt Cassel and assumed the job permanently when Cassel went on injured reserve. His biggest fantasy performance came a week later in his first start. Bridgewater threw for 317 yards while rushing for 27 yards and a score. A dearth of scoring throws conspired to keep his weekly fantasy totals down (the Week 4 outing was Bridgewater's only game with 20-plus fantasy points). A look at his game tape shows a quarterback that was gaining in confidence by the week.

ANALYSIS

After watching Bridgewater's tape, it's hard to imagine why he fell so far in the 2014 NFL Draft. He might not have the same type of arm strength as Derek Carr or Blake Bortles, but the Louisville product has a calm demeanor in the pocket and is consistently on target with his throws. Perhaps the most impressive part of Bridgewater's game is his accuracy on medium-range throws, especially over the middle of the field.

Plus, much like Ringo Starr, Bridgewater got by with a little help from his friends. He was able to work with receivers that could actually get open while operating within Norv Turner's typically creative offensive scheme. As Bridgewater's confidence grew throughout the season, it was fun to watch him work in new pass-catchers -- going from veteran Greg Jennings to the much younger Charles Johnson. As for Cordarrelle Patterson ... well, we all know how that went last season.

One of Bridgewater's more surprising numbers in 2014 was his rushing total. Teddy tallied 209 yards on the ground last season. It's not really enough to truly make him a dual-threat quarterback, but it's far more than most of us would have anticipated. After all, Bridgewater rushed for 170 yards in three seasons at Louisville. It's obvious that Bridgewater isn't often looking to take off with the football, but when he does run, he's smart about it ... and also smart enough to get down before trouble arrives.

2015 AND BEYOND

Of the three quarterbacks I looked at, Bridgewater is the one with the greatest upside. Let's not forget that he was considered by many to be the top signal-caller in the 2014 draft before a disastrous pro day sent him tumbling down draft boards. Nonetheless, there was plenty to like from Bridgewater's rookie campaign. But there's even better news: Adrian Peterson is back! Matt Asiata might have been a top-20 fantasy back and Jerick McKinnon added some excitement later in the season, but neither one of them is Purple Jesus. With defenses once again being forced to pay extra attention to the Vikings' running game, Bridgewater and his pass-catching cohorts should find a little more room to prosper.

2015 DRAFT VALUE

Much like Carr, Bridgewater was seen as a prospect who had greater upside in dynasty leagues than standard re-drafts. And much like Carr, Bridgewater should find a home on most fantasy rosters as an emerging second QB option in 2015.
 
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This is a misquoting of Norv Turner's statement.

I posted the transcript of Norvs press conference in the Vikings thread.

What he says is that Bridgewater is a top flight QB. Not top five. There was confusion about this statement as some heard this as top five. The official transcript clears that up. But the author you just quoted went ahead and went with the misquote and uses it for click bait as misinforms the readers.

 
Rotoworld:

Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Vikings

Teddy Bridgwater finished the Hall of Fame Game 5-of-6 passing for 44 yards.

He played one quarter before giving way to Mike Kafka. Teddy was composed in the face of pressure and kept his eyes downfield but ultimately played it safe with checkdowns. He'll play more in Minnesota's fourth preseason game.

Aug 9 - 8:42 PM
 
Rotoworld:

Teddy Bridgewater completed 7-of-8 passes for 86 yards in the Vikings' second preseason game Saturday night against the Bucs.

Bridgewater was sharp, repeatedly hooking up with his backs, tight ends, and slot receiver Jarius Wright to keep Minnesota's offense on the move. In a matter of one quarter, Teddy led the Vikings to nine points, which could've been 11 if not for a failed two-point conversion attempt. Through two preseason games, Bridgewater is 12-of-14 passing for 130 yards with no turnovers.

Aug 15 - 8:47 PM
 
A Secret Shutdown Corner, An Untouchable Quarterback, and the Man Who Is Outplaying J.J. Watt…

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Bridgewater should cut out the play action

On paper it makes sense for a young quarterback, with the threat of a solid running game, to use play action. You just would, right? So it probably comes as no surprise to know that no one has used play action as much this year as Minnesota’s Teddy Bridgewater. He fakes the handoff on 33.9% of passing plays, well ahead of the NFL average of 18.8%.

However, here’s the surprising thing: His performance with it is not as good as when he doesn’t bother. He has a QB rating of 87.4 with play action and 95.6 without. So it’s a two-week sample size thing right? Not so fast. Last year, on nearly 500 drop-backs his, passer rating was 63.8 with play action and 92.4 without.
 
How Teddy Bridgewater's first 16 starts stack vs. upcoming QBs

Bridgewater has now started 16 games, the equivalent of a full season, and has eight wins and eight losses attached to his record as a starter.

Including the 12 starts he made last season and the first four this year, Bridgewater is 324-of-497 passing (65.2 percent complete) for 3,543 yards (7.13 per attempt). He’s thrown for 16 touchdowns and been intercepted 14 times for a passer rating of 85.1.
 
I've watched more of Bridgewater than any other premium prospect in the draft, and I have complete faith in his ability to win at the NFL level. While it would never happen, and this is easy for me to say since I won't have to face the music if it didn't work out, as a Niners fan I'd have no problem at all in trading Kaepernick for assets, saving the $18 million a year, and grabbing Teddy. Would definitely pull the trigger in a Madden league.
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Bridgewater leads Vikings to win despite poor outing

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1. Teddy Bridgewater struggled mightily for most of the day, but drove the Vikings for 10 points in the final five minutes to earn the win. It was Two-Minute Teddy's fifth career fourth-quarter or overtime comeback (trailing or tied). For much of the day, Bridgewater was wildly off target, often throwing high off his back foot. His terrible pre-half interception completely swung momentum toward Chicago. Give the young quarterback credit for keeping his head on straight to engineer the comeback with big help from his receivers.
 

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