MAC_32
Footballguy
There was ample he is about to break out buzz the summer of the injury. Sure, buzz is intangible, but there's good reason that team took his injury as hard as it did.
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Steelers4Life
Footballguy
The Jets have their QB of the future and a veteran backup, and they have an immediately tradeable commodity that would allow them to turn a small one year contract into at least a solid pick if not a little more.
Sure, if a starter goes down AND that team believes Bridgewater can step right in and be their best option, great, they'll cash in. But they're also risking overplaying their hand and just watching him walk away for nothing after this year. They shouldn't wait too long to do it.
Sure, if a starter goes down AND that team believes Bridgewater can step right in and be their best option, great, they'll cash in. But they're also risking overplaying their hand and just watching him walk away for nothing after this year. They shouldn't wait too long to do it.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Looking at next years free agent and draft crops me thinks they could recoup quite the comp pick if no one will pony up for Teddy now.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I might be wrong, but I thought I read something about it being very unlikely that they'd get any comp picks for him at all. Admittedly I don't know how that works or what it'd be based on.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think the formula is still secret, but from what can reasonably be drawn from previous comp pick awards Teddy is eligible. It really just depends on the size of his next contract and how many free agents the Jets would bring in.
lardonastick
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Wow, traded to the Saints per Schefter
matttyl
Footballguy
Yeah, good move for both. Let him learn a system, and if he's healthy that's one heck of an offense down there in 2-3 years when Brees is done. Bridgewater, Kamara, Thomas.
If you have the roster room, Brees+Bridgewater I have to think is a solid dynasty QB1 going forward.
If you have the roster room, Brees+Bridgewater I have to think is a solid dynasty QB1 going forward.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Good for Teddy. Great move by the Saints.
The Frankman
Footballguy
It depends how long he is willing to wait for a chance to start, but if he can wait 2 years Bridgewater and the Saints... wow.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
They have $90MM to spend next offseason so I don't think comp picks are in their future.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
How are the Saints going to pay him enough to stick around as the backup next year?
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Wow, imagine going from the Jets to the Saints. What a day for Bridgewater.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
The Jets got a 3rd. Shrewd move since they didn't need him.
Jags should have been on this.
Jags or Saints should have just gotten him free in FA like the Jets did though.
Jags should have been on this.
Jags or Saints should have just gotten him free in FA like the Jets did though.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Brees has talked about retirement. He hasn't said when, but he's talked about it. He also turns 40 in January. And the Saints traded away their 2019 #1.
They'll make it work. If the knee holds up then he's the starter come 2020 and if injury or retirement dictate, sooner.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
He'll be their starter next year.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Wow. Brilliant pickup by NO. Makes me feel a whole lot better being heavily invested in NO WRs in my dynasty league.
MAC_32
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
That's where I come out.
I think Teddy has to figure he gets the shot to take over.
matttyl
Footballguy
Reggie Bush also quoted saying Brees would hang them up if they win it all this year. I'm thinking he plays 2 more and calls it quits. I think the Saints know that's the case.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
They gave up a 3rd rounder. Did they work out a new contract with him? He's UFA next year.
matttyl
Footballguy
Not that I've seen reported anywhere. There must be one behind the scenes with his rep or something, though. Why give up a third (when they already don't have a first next year) for a guy to be a one year backup?
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Exactly. That's personnel malpractice if they gave up a 3rd without a new contract in place.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
What incentive would Teddy have to sign a contract below what guys like even Case Keenum and Blake Bortles got recently?
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Time will tell who "won" the trade, I'm just happy for Teddy.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
I dunno. I'm just looking at this from the Saints perspective. Why give up a 3rd for a 1-year backup?
cobalt_27
Footballguy
If the Saints didn't resign him, I can tell you now that the Jets won this trade.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Let's have this conversation after NFL defenses start game planning the rookie QB in the regular season.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Saints aren't going anywhere in the playoffs without Brees. They just flushed a 3rd rounder down the toilet.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The Jets are looking at Darnold as a long term investment - I don't think they have any serious hopes to compete for the Super Bowl this year. Starting Bridgewater didn't really make any sense for them since he was only signed for one year.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Holy hell the jags didnt get involved?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The hope is likely that once he learns the system and likes the staff, teammates, city, etc. they would have the inside track on signing him.
matttyl
Footballguy
That's a lot to pay for an inside track. If Brees retires next year (which apparently he will if they win the SB), they'll still have to sign Teddy long term.....and he'll now have all the leverage in those talks.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah I'm basically on your side with this. I don't necessarily get it from the Saints side so I'm trying to guess what their motivation is. As a Jets fan I'm happy with the deal.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
This year's QB draft class was deep and so-far the rookies are looking 'pretty decent'.
I would have to guess that next year's QB crop isn't looking nearly as good so those speculating that Teddy is insurance for Brees retiring are probably on the right track.
I would have to guess that next year's QB crop isn't looking nearly as good so those speculating that Teddy is insurance for Brees retiring are probably on the right track.
Doug B
Footballguy
They felt they were going to have to draft Brees' replacement next year anyway. That 3rd could either be Teddy Bridgewater or whatever QBs fall into the very low second round in 2019.
Bridgewater is not going to command a Keenum* or Bortles** contract just yet. Maybe he gets extended a year or two now ... and then if he blows up, gets into position for a $30-35 million/year contract (maybe $80 million guaranteed?) in 2021.
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* Keenum's contract with Broncos:
Case Keenum's Broncos deal is for two years, $36M, of which $25M is fully guaranteed at signing. He gets a $6M signing bonus, a fully guaranteed $8M 2018 salary and a $4M 2018 roster bonus. His $18M 2019 salary is guaranteed against injury, and $7M of it is guaranteed at signing.
** Bortles' contract with the Jaguars:
Jacksonville has signed quarterback Blake Bortles to a three-year contract, the team announced. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported the contract is worth $54 million, including $26.5 million in guaranteed money. The new deal replaces Bortles' current contract, which had one year remaining on it via the fifth-year option included in his rookie contract.
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Doug B
Footballguy
Wait -- is Bridgewater's contract up after 2018 or after 2019? I've seen a reference (local draft-analyst tweet) that he has two years left on his deal.
EDIT: Never mind, it's one year -- Bridgewater's contract details.
EDIT: Never mind, it's one year -- Bridgewater's contract details.
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Bronco Billy
Footballguy
He signed a 1 yr deal for $6M.
There’s no way NO trades a 3rd without a deal already in place that extends that contract.
Doug B
Footballguy
That's what we're telling ourselves down here
Baseball teams sometimes "rent" players for a year or half a year ... but I can't recall an NFL team ever intentionally doing that.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
But if you're Teddy and fought back the way he has, do you sign on to be a backup for another year or two beyond this year when you're set up to try and land a starting job next year?
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
Nice pickup for The Ain’ts! Happy for Teddy too.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Eh backup and heir apparent for the Saints starting QB gig in 2 years is pretty sweet, can't find that just anywhere. And there's recovery time still plugged in most likely. Seems hard to find a better situation.
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