QB Zach Wilson, MIA (3 Viewers)

[travdogg]

This is a great move for Wilson... I don't think he will be great, but I still think under the right circumstance he can be serviceable. I think going to Denver and getting a fresh start is good for him, plus he won't have the huge media after him when he doesn't do well.

I'm not sure Wilson ever gets a shot in Denver. Don't see his addition changing their draft plans at all, and its probably 50-50 he'll be ahead of Stidham who has a year in the system.

Can't see him changing their draft plans either but they are so light on draft capital moving up was going to be difficult. As such I think he might get a shot because I don't think Denver will get one of the top 4 QB's, how much of a role he can earn next year might have more to do with if they can get a Nix type later.

If it turns out to be him vs Stidham and a QB they draft outside the top 6, I think he'll have a good shot to see the field.

Good spot for him IMO, other then Minnesota thought it was ideal. Chicago's a better place to drop a rookie sure starter like Caleb, but I like Denver more for Wilson to give him some solid NFL coaching, which he badly needs.

I don't see Denver's draft capital being much different from the Vikings, unless the Vikings go 3 1st rounders, which would be bold. Like, I think #12 and 2025 1st, is a better offer than #11 and #23. There's such a high chance of Denver's 2025 1st being in the top half of the round. I do agree its a good place for Wilson to land though. Just think Denver is asking for trouble if they seriously go in with Wilson/Stidham. That'd be the worst QB room in the NFL.

ETA: On the bright side, they probably don't need to throw out those Russell Wilson jerseys. Just assign Zach #3.

 

[Terpman22]

This is a great move for Wilson... I don't think he will be great, but I still think under the right circumstance he can be serviceable. I think going to Denver and getting a fresh start is good for him, plus he won't have the huge media after him when he doesn't do well.

I'm not sure Wilson ever gets a shot in Denver. Don't see his addition changing their draft plans at all, and its probably 50-50 he'll be ahead of Stidham who has a year in the system.

Can't see him changing their draft plans either but they are so light on draft capital moving up was going to be difficult. As such I think he might get a shot because I don't think Denver will get one of the top 4 QB's, how much of a role he can earn next year might have more to do with if they can get a Nix type later.

If it turns out to be him vs Stidham and a QB they draft outside the top 6, I think he'll have a good shot to see the field.

Good spot for him IMO, other then Minnesota thought it was ideal. Chicago's a better place to drop a rookie sure starter like Caleb, but I like Denver more for Wilson to give him some solid NFL coaching, which he badly needs.

I don't see Denver's draft capital being much different from the Vikings, unless the Vikings go 3 1st rounders, which would be bold. Like, I think #12 and 2025 1st, is a better offer than #11 and #23. There's such a high chance of Denver's 2025 1st being in the top half of the round. I do agree its a good place for Wilson to land though. Just think Denver is asking for trouble if they seriously go in with Wilson/Stidham. That'd be the worst QB room in the NFL.

I have a dream that the Eagles trade their #22 + other picks for Pat Surtain, thus giving Denver more capital to move up and get their (Payton's) QB

 

[menobrown]

This is a great move for Wilson... I don't think he will be great, but I still think under the right circumstance he can be serviceable. I think going to Denver and getting a fresh start is good for him, plus he won't have the huge media after him when he doesn't do well.

I'm not sure Wilson ever gets a shot in Denver. Don't see his addition changing their draft plans at all, and its probably 50-50 he'll be ahead of Stidham who has a year in the system.

Can't see him changing their draft plans either but they are so light on draft capital moving up was going to be difficult. As such I think he might get a shot because I don't think Denver will get one of the top 4 QB's, how much of a role he can earn next year might have more to do with if they can get a Nix type later.

If it turns out to be him vs Stidham and a QB they draft outside the top 6, I think he'll have a good shot to see the field.

Good spot for him IMO, other then Minnesota thought it was ideal. Chicago's a better place to drop a rookie sure starter like Caleb, but I like Denver more for Wilson to give him some solid NFL coaching, which he badly needs.

I don't see Denver's draft capital being much different from the Vikings, unless the Vikings go 3 1st rounders, which would be bold. Like, I think #12 and 2025 1st, is a better offer than #11 and #23. There's such a high chance of Denver's 2025 1st being in the top half of the round. I do agree its a good place for Wilson to land though. Just think Denver is asking for trouble if they seriously go in with Wilson/Stidham. That'd be the worst QB room in the NFL.

I'd prefer a shot at a high pick in 2025 myself, but NFL teams seem hard headed about the way they discount future picks, to much IMO.

But more then that I think the Vikings are in better position to make that offer, not sure Denver can stomach it. You got a team with very low on legit weapons and now you'd not have a pick until round 3 this year and no first round pick next year. That's rough. Vikings can do this, already have weapons in place, still have their first next year.

So just not sure that's an offer Denver wanted to make. I would NOT if I was them, I would if I was the Vikings.

 

[travdogg]

This is a great move for Wilson... I don't think he will be great, but I still think under the right circumstance he can be serviceable. I think going to Denver and getting a fresh start is good for him, plus he won't have the huge media after him when he doesn't do well.

I'm not sure Wilson ever gets a shot in Denver. Don't see his addition changing their draft plans at all, and its probably 50-50 he'll be ahead of Stidham who has a year in the system.

Can't see him changing their draft plans either but they are so light on draft capital moving up was going to be difficult. As such I think he might get a shot because I don't think Denver will get one of the top 4 QB's, how much of a role he can earn next year might have more to do with if they can get a Nix type later.

If it turns out to be him vs Stidham and a QB they draft outside the top 6, I think he'll have a good shot to see the field.

Good spot for him IMO, other then Minnesota thought it was ideal. Chicago's a better place to drop a rookie sure starter like Caleb, but I like Denver more for Wilson to give him some solid NFL coaching, which he badly needs.

I don't see Denver's draft capital being much different from the Vikings, unless the Vikings go 3 1st rounders, which would be bold. Like, I think #12 and 2025 1st, is a better offer than #11 and #23. There's such a high chance of Denver's 2025 1st being in the top half of the round. I do agree its a good place for Wilson to land though. Just think Denver is asking for trouble if they seriously go in with Wilson/Stidham. That'd be the worst QB room in the NFL.

I'd prefer a shot at a high pick in 2025 myself, but NFL teams seem hard headed about the way they discount future picks, to much IMO.

But more then that I think the Vikings are in better position to make that offer, not sure Denver can stomach it. You got a team with very low on legit weapons and now you'd not have a pick until round 3 this year and no first round pick next year. That's rough. Vikings can do this, already have weapons in place, still have their first next year.

So just not sure that's an offer Denver wanted to make. I would NOT if I was them, I would if I was the Vikings.

I can see that. The Vikings are a FAR better team than Denver beyond QB. On the other hand, Payton has infinite job security, whereas KOC isn't on the hot seat per se, but perhaps Kwesi is.

ETA: Payton trying to get another season of blaming all his problems on a QB named Wilson who underperformed with Nate Hackett?

 

[GregR]

Jets trading Zach Wilson and a 7th (pick 256) to the Broncos for a sixth (pick 203).

Jets trading QB Wilson to Broncos, source says

The Jets are trading former No. 2 overall pick Zach Wilson to the Broncos, sources told ESPN's Rich Cimini.

www.espn.com

The Jets and Broncos are splitting the $5.5 million Wilson is due this season with each team paying $2.75 million, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports.

 

[pollardsvision]

This is a great move for Wilson... I don't think he will be great, but I still think under the right circumstance he can be serviceable. I think going to Denver and getting a fresh start is good for him, plus he won't have the huge media after him when he doesn't do well.

I'm not sure Wilson ever gets a shot in Denver. Don't see his addition changing their draft plans at all, and its probably 50-50 he'll be ahead of Stidham who has a year in the system.

Can't see him changing their draft plans either but they are so light on draft capital moving up was going to be difficult. As such I think he might get a shot because I don't think Denver will get one of the top 4 QB's, how much of a role he can earn next year might have more to do with if they can get a Nix type later.

If it turns out to be him vs Stidham and a QB they draft outside the top 6, I think he'll have a good shot to see the field.

Good spot for him IMO, other then Minnesota thought it was ideal. Chicago's a better place to drop a rookie sure starter like Caleb, but I like Denver more for Wilson to give him some solid NFL coaching, which he badly needs.

I don't see Denver's draft capital being much different from the Vikings, unless the Vikings go 3 1st rounders, which would be bold. Like, I think #12 and 2025 1st, is a better offer than #11 and #23. There's such a high chance of Denver's 2025 1st being in the top half of the round. I do agree its a good place for Wilson to land though. Just think Denver is asking for trouble if they seriously go in with Wilson/Stidham. That'd be the worst QB room in the NFL.

I'd prefer a shot at a high pick in 2025 myself, but NFL teams seem hard headed about the way they discount future picks, to much IMO.

But more then that I think the Vikings are in better position to make that offer, not sure Denver can stomach it. You got a team with very low on legit weapons and now you'd not have a pick until round 3 this year and no first round pick next year. That's rough. Vikings can do this, already have weapons in place, still have their first next year.

So just not sure that's an offer Denver wanted to make. I would NOT if I was them, I would if I was the Vikings.

I agree.

But the Broncos have shown us over the last few years that they absolutely love terrible ideas.

 

[Faust]

Chase Daniel
Intriguing option for Zach Wilson: The Dallas Cowboys

He’s an immediate upgrade over Cooper Rush/Trey Lance and gives them some depth behind Dak (who has yet to sign).

Sean Payton has been loving up Zach & wouldn’t be surprised if its to increase trade value.

x.com

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

Chase Daniel
Intriguing option for Zach Wilson: The Dallas Cowboys

He’s an immediate upgrade over Cooper Rush/Trey Lance and gives them some depth behind Dak (who has yet to sign).

Sean Payton has been loving up Zach & wouldn’t be surprised if its to increase trade value.

x.com

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Oh please let this happen.

Signed,

— Still haven’t cut him in my 12 team SF league

 

[zed2283]

Chase Daniel
Intriguing option for Zach Wilson: The Dallas Cowboys

He’s an immediate upgrade over Cooper Rush/Trey Lance and gives them some depth behind Dak (who has yet to sign).

Sean Payton has been loving up Zach & wouldn’t be surprised if its to increase trade value.

x.com

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Upgrade over Cooper Rush?

 

[Faust]

Broncos GM George Paton: QB Zach Wilson 'has starter traits all over'

 

[Faust]

Chase Daniel
Can’t tell you how impressed with Zach Wilson I am.

His play looks like the #2 overall pick should…he’s got his swagger back.

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[Faust]

Dolphins QB Zach Wilson: 'Challenging' time in New York is just part of my career story

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This somewhat proves that Miami will not be taking a Day 2/3 QB, at least not when they bring in Wilson and blow $6M+ on him, more incentives if he's thrust into action
And that is likely on a team that sports an injury riddled concussion ladened Quarterback that is 1 hit from being removed from the field

The Dolphins continue to amaze their fans in the most absurd ways

 

[Faust]

Dolphins QB Zach Wilson: 'I still believe I can be a starter in this league'

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dolphins QB Zach Wilson: 'I still believe I can be a starter in this league'

And he's going to get that opportunity in Miami this season...at some point he'll be called upon, almost inevitable

 

[travdogg]

This somewhat proves that Miami will not be taking a Day 2/3 QB, at least not when they bring in Wilson and blow $6M+ on him, more incentives if he's thrust into action
And that is likely on a team that sports an injury riddled concussion ladened Quarterback that is 1 hit from being removed from the field

The Dolphins continue to amaze their fans in the most absurd ways

One of the weirder moves any team made this offseason. Wilson to me is someone who should be playing in the CFL, or being on a practice squad, Being the #2 on a team with an oft in injured starter with playoff aspirations is wild, especially given how Wilson got twice as much as better QBs, like Mac Jones and Jimmy G (who has played in this system no less) or how little Kenny Pickett cost to acquire. No instead its Wilson. At least it wasn't Trey Lance, I guess.

Is Wilson a better option than Huntley was? Huntley runs and is more accurate.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This somewhat proves that Miami will not be taking a Day 2/3 QB, at least not when they bring in Wilson and blow $6M+ on him, more incentives if he's thrust into action
And that is likely on a team that sports an injury riddled concussion ladened Quarterback that is 1 hit from being removed from the field

The Dolphins continue to amaze their fans in the most absurd ways

One of the weirder moves any team made this offseason. Wilson to me is someone who should be playing in the CFL, or being on a practice squad, Being the #2 on a team with an oft in injured starter with playoff aspirations is wild, especially given how Wilson got twice as much as better QBs, like Mac Jones and Jimmy G (who has played in this system no less) or how little Kenny Pickett cost to acquire. No instead its Wilson. At least it wasn't Trey Lance, I guess.

Is Wilson a better option than Huntley was? Huntley runs and is more accurate.

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

 

[rockaction]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

 

[KellysHeroes]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I will whole heartily disagree, as bad as he has played... Zach has more talent in his left pinky than any other back up in Miami in the past 2 yrs. He wasn't ready for the NFL when the Jets put him on the field; he had a whole yr off in Denver (I would of liked him to stay there another yr to continue learning). If/when Tua goes down, you might be surprised

 

[rockaction]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I will whole heartily disagree, as bad as he has played... Zach has more talent in his left pinky than any other back up in Miami in the past 2 yrs. He wasn't ready for the NFL when the Jets put him on the field; he had a whole yr off in Denver (I would of liked him to stay there another yr to continue learning). If/when Tua goes down, you might be surprised

Nope. I won't be surprised if he performs like a starting QB in the NFL. I'll be utterly shocked and eat whatever hat I have lying around.

 

[Mitchie]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I will whole heartily disagree, as bad as he has played... Zach has more talent in his left pinky than any other back up in Miami in the past 2 yrs. He wasn't ready for the NFL when the Jets put him on the field; he had a whole yr off in Denver (I would of liked him to stay there another yr to continue learning). If/when Tua goes down, you might be surprised

I mean I get that he was #2 pick but has he done anything since then to demonstrate that?

 

[Stoneworker]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I will whole heartily disagree, as bad as he has played... Zach has more talent in his left pinky than any other back up in Miami in the past 2 yrs. He wasn't ready for the NFL when the Jets put him on the field; he had a whole yr off in Denver (I would of liked him to stay there another yr to continue learning). If/when Tua goes down, you might be surprised

Agree. No one has any clue what Wilson may have learned under Sean Payton. He looked decent in preseason games with the Broncos last year (yes, I know it was preseason).

All the strong hater opinions are based strictly off the NYJ experience and the only real answer is no one knows until he gets out there again.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I do think situation plays alot into the success of young highly touted QB's coming into the NFL. You only need to go back to last year with Caleb and Jayden. Wilson was drafted into one of the worst franchises in the NFL and he was never really ever able to get his head above water.

Even though reports out of DEN seemed to indicate things were clicking for him, to me...he's got a bit of Will Levis in him. And that never flies, so until he's under center again, I don't think we'll know if he's turned any type of corner in terms of decision making and staying cool under pressure. But he's 26...young as you mentioned, and I think he picked a great situation for himself to see if the year away from the starters glare has made a difference.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I will whole heartily disagree, as bad as he has played... Zach has more talent in his left pinky than any other back up in Miami in the past 2 yrs. He wasn't ready for the NFL when the Jets put him on the field; he had a whole yr off in Denver (I would of liked him to stay there another yr to continue learning). If/when Tua goes down, you might be surprised

Agree. No one has any clue what Wilson may have learned under Sean Payton. He looked decent in preseason games with the Broncos last year (yes, I know it was preseason).

All the strong hater opinions are based strictly off the NYJ experience and the only real answer is no one knows until he gets out there again.

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I do think situation plays alot into the success of young highly touted QB's coming into the NFL. You only need to go back to last year with Caleb and Jayden. Wilson was drafted into one of the worst franchises in the NFL and he was never really ever able to get his head above water.

Even though reports out of DEN seemed to indicate things were clicking for him, to me...he's got a bit of Will Levis in him. And that never flies, so until he's under center again, I don't think we'll know if he's turned any type of corner in terms of decision making and staying cool under pressure. But he's 26...young as you mentioned, and I think he picked a great situation for himself to see if the year away from the starters glare has made a difference.

-First of all I wanted to compliment all these posts, what I read are folks that are willing to have an open mind about the year he spent in Denver.
We are starting to see a pattern develop where a QB leaves the team that drafted him, usually in the high 1st round, and these QBs are going to other teams and coaches they haven't worked with yet and finding success or a new path as a QB in the NFL

-We use to assume that when a player was cut/released/traded that those coaches must have known they were worthless/damaged goods, whatever the case we put a little too much stock in the player landing on a new team but being the same as the team they left, now that does happen but at QB we are witnessing a pattern of sorts

Baker Mayfield leaves Cleveland and works as a back up under McVay and then lands on Tampa Bay where he now is viewed as their franchise Quarterback
Sam Darnold leaves the Jets and the Panthers, works under Kyle Shanahan, then O'Connell and now has a nice contract in Seattle, looked like he was gonna be out of the NFL at one point
It won't always be this way but Wilson mirrors what these 2 experienced and I still think many of us doubt his abilities, I know as a Miami fan this did not make me happy.

And like I posted, we will likely see Wilson on the field this year with Tua being Miami's #1 QB, he misses time
It would be interesting if he did well over a short stretch of games, would Miami actually try and keep him?

 

[rockaction]

I think he picked a great situation for himself to see if the year away from the starters glare has made a difference.

I have absolutely no faith that a tune-up year helped him. He needed a major overhaul. Yes, I know it's the Jets, but he was actually in a good situation and torpedoed that team. They had a reasonable line, reasonable receivers, an excellent running back, and a great defense the year Aaron Rodgers got hurt in his first game. Wilson looked awful. He was the reason the Jets didn't make the playoffs. Not anybody else but him, honestly. So it's not like the organization failed him. He failed (as a young guy, admittedly) to get the job done.

Regardless of who is correct, we will get to see this year because you can bet dollars to donuts that Tua isn't starting seventeen games. No way is that happening.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I think he picked a great situation for himself to see if the year away from the starters glare has made a difference.

I have absolutely no faith that a tune-up year helped him. He needed a major overhaul. Yes, I know it's the
Jets
, but he was actually in a good situation and torpedoed that team. They had a reasonable line, reasonable receivers, an excellent running back, and a great defense the year
Aaron Rodgers
got hurt in his first game.
Wilson
looked awful. He was the reason the
Jets
didn't make the playoffs. Not anybody else but him, honestly. So it's not like the organization failed him. He failed (as a young guy, admittedly) to get the job done.

Regardless of who is correct, we will get to see this year because you can bet dollars to donuts that Tua isn't starting seventeen games. No way is that happening.

Isn't that what Rodgers had in 2024, if not more? The Jets are a notoriously poorly run organization. Have been for a long time. And I wouldn't say having to deal with the shattered expectations of the 2023 season was a great situation for a kid who had been shown to be clearly overmatched,

Again, I'm not pounding the table saying 'just you watch'. You could see his negative tendencies start to snowball in game...but then you'd see him play a pretty good game (KC in 2023) and think, hey there is something there. And Sean Payton seemed to speak glowingly of him and he's a guy whose judgment I trust.

 

[travdogg]

I think he picked a great situation for himself to see if the year away from the starters glare has made a difference.

I have absolutely no faith that a tune-up year helped him. He needed a major overhaul. Yes, I know it's the
Jets
, but he was actually in a good situation and torpedoed that team. They had a reasonable line, reasonable receivers, an excellent running back, and a great defense the year
Aaron Rodgers
got hurt in his first game.
Wilson
looked awful. He was the reason the
Jets
didn't make the playoffs. Not anybody else but him, honestly. So it's not like the organization failed him. He failed (as a young guy, admittedly) to get the job done.

Regardless of who is correct, we will get to see this year because you can bet dollars to donuts that Tua isn't starting seventeen games. No way is that happening.

Isn't that what
Rodgers
had in 2024, if not more? The
Jets
are a notoriously poorly run organization. Have been for a long time. And I wouldn't say having to deal with the shattered expectations of the 2023 season was a great situation for a kid who had been shown to be clearly overmatched,

Again, I'm not pounding the table saying 'just you watch'. You could see his negative tendencies start to snowball in game...but then you'd see him play a pretty good game (KC in 2023) and think, hey there is something there. And Sean Payton seemed to speak glowingly of him and he's a guy whose judgment I trust.

2 things I'll add in opposition:

1. Guys like Sam Darnold, and Baker Mayfield showed more (A LOT MORE in Baker's case) before their comeback years.

2. If Sean Payton thought highly of Wilson, why couldn't he even challenge Jarrett Stidham?

Zach Wilson feels like another Blaine Gabbert to me. Gabbert hung around for a decade, but if he was playing, your team was pretty much screwed.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I think he picked a great situation for himself to see if the year away from the starters glare has made a difference.

I have absolutely no faith that a tune-up year helped him. He needed a major overhaul. Yes, I know it's the
Jets
, but he was actually in a good situation and torpedoed that team. They had a reasonable line, reasonable receivers, an excellent running back, and a great defense the year
Aaron Rodgers
got hurt in his first game.
Wilson
looked awful. He was the reason the
Jets
didn't make the playoffs. Not anybody else but him, honestly. So it's not like the organization failed him. He failed (as a young guy, admittedly) to get the job done.

Regardless of who is correct, we will get to see this year because you can bet dollars to donuts that Tua isn't starting seventeen games. No way is that happening.

Isn't that what
Rodgers
had in 2024, if not more? The
Jets
are a notoriously poorly run organization. Have been for a long time. And I wouldn't say having to deal with the shattered expectations of the 2023 season was a great situation for a kid who had been shown to be clearly overmatched,

Again, I'm not pounding the table saying 'just you watch'. You could see his negative tendencies start to snowball in game...but then you'd see him play a pretty good game (KC in 2023) and think, hey there is something there. And Sean Payton seemed to speak glowingly of him and he's a guy whose judgment I trust.

2 things I'll add in opposition:

1. Guys like Sam Darnold, and Baker Mayfield showed more (A LOT MORE in Baker's case) before their comeback years.

2. If Sean Payton thought highly of Wilson, why couldn't he even challenge Jarrett Stidham?

Zach Wilson feels like another Blaine Gabbert to me. Gabbert hung around for a decade, but if he was playing, your team was pretty much screwed.

There's also Geno Smith from a comeback perspective and the fact that Darnold was done in by alot of the same NY dynamics that contributed to Wilson's issues.

As for Stidham...this is purely conjecture on my part so take it with a grain of salt but from my POV, Stidham profiles as a career NFL QB2. That position for Payton isn't about developing a guy, it's about having someone capable should Nix get hurt. From a long term fit, Stidham always seemed a better fit for what Payton wants. If you look at his QB2's in NO, they were of the Chase Daniel, Teddy Bridgewater, Mark Brunell variety. Trusted vet types who likely were settling or had settled into that career trajectory.

 

[Stoneworker]

As a Broncos fan there is no doubt in my mind that Payton would have kept Z. Wilson over Stidham if the price was right. But it was completely predictable that Wilson was going to be looking elsewhere for more money and a situation that gave him a faster track to another starting QB role.

Stidham "won" the backup role last year primarily because he already had a year in Payton's system and there was a high comfort level. As @TheDirtyWord adroitly points out, Sean Payton's history is with that type of backup and Stidham had the higher floor/lower ceiling.

Recall also that Denver traded for Z. Wilson long before Nix fell to them at #12 in the draft. Who knows what might have happened if Nix wasn't drafted and Wilson/Stidham split reps in a training camp QB competition.

 

[Gatorman]

As a Miami fan the writing is on the wall that it is going to be a combo of Tua, Wilson, and a day 2 or day 3 QB. Gabriel from Oregon is kind of an uninjured version of Tua so I kind of see the phins taking him unless someone like MIlroe or Dart are around their second round pick (I kind of doubt either will be at 53).

 

[rockaction]

Isn't that what Rodgers had in 2024, if not more?

No. They lost two guys from their defensive line among others, fired the coach after five games, and didn’t play nearly as well on defense, which was dominant when Wilson was a starter.

Watching Wilson was like a constant electric ball shock and I’m glad he’s gone.

 

[JohnnyU]

Isn’t he a waiver wire guy?

 

[Faust]

Why Dolphins believe Zach Wilson is right choice at backup QB

 

[wgoldsph]

We did not enjoy Huntley down here

Zach Wilson is an entirely different experience altogether. I'm not sure how Miami is going into the year thinking they've upgraded from Skylar Thompson. Zach is terrible. Yeah, I don't want to get on the guy or anything, but he was better served as the number three in Denver than as the backup who is ready to start for a team. I guess you take the money where you can get it, but I don't like this at all for Miami or for him. Take the time to get some reps and develop. You've still got time. Clock isn't ticking on somebody as young as he is.

I will whole heartily disagree, as bad as he has played... Zach has more talent in his left pinky than any other back up in Miami in the past 2 yrs. He wasn't ready for the NFL when the Jets put him on the field; he had a whole yr off in Denver (I would of liked him to stay there another yr to continue learning). If/when Tua goes down, you might be surprised

Agree. No one has any clue what Wilson may have learned under Sean Payton. He looked decent in preseason games with the Broncos last year (yes, I know it was preseason).

All the strong hater opinions are based strictly off the NYJ experience and the only real answer is no one knows until he gets out there again.

Any strong hater opinions are based on how he played in the nfl. He was absolutely terrible. If he wasn't drafted 2nd he would be a practice squad guy at best. Blame the (terribly run) Jets all you want, they deserve it, but Wilson did nothing to show any spark of legitimate NFL talent or any ability to elevate a team.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Can we get an Over/Under on the number of games Zach Wilson will start for the Miami Dolphins?
Armstead retired for the Phins and Tua won't stay upright behind this OLine if you want to call it that right now

 

[rockaction]

I don’t think that a coach watches more than two games with him without committing harakiri.

Nobody in their right mind signs this guy to play behind Tua. The Jets GM almost got fired for doing that (he eventually got canned anyway). This guy made an organization go all-in to sign and placate a mediocre 40 year-old who promptly ripped up his heel on the fourth play from scrimmage.

 

[JohnnyU]

Marc Wilson

 

[zed2283]

Marc Wilson

This guy's nowhere as good as Marc Wilson.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Zach Wilson redemption arc coming!

 

[SwampDawg]

Can we get an Over/Under on the number of games Zach Wilson will start for the Miami Dolphins?
Armstead retired for the Phins and Tua won't stay upright behind this OLine if you want to call it that right now

2.5

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Can we get an Over/Under on the number of games Zach Wilson will start for the Miami Dolphins?
Armstead retired for the Phins and Tua won't stay upright behind this OLine if you want to call it that right now

2.5

Put me down for the Over

 

[JohnnyU]

Marc Wilson

This guy's nowhere as good as Marc Wilson.

Man, that sure isn't saying much is it.

 

[SwampDawg]

Can we get an Over/Under on the number of games Zach Wilson will start for the Miami Dolphins?
Armstead retired for the Phins and Tua won't stay upright behind this OLine if you want to call it that right now

2.5

Put me down for the Over

3 probably seems like the number but 3.5 starts seemed too high, he is likely to see time in 5 games.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don’t think that a coach watches more than two games with him without committing harakiri.

Nobody in their right mind signs this guy to play behind Tua. The Jets GM almost got fired for doing that (he eventually got canned anyway). This guy made an organization go all-in to sign and placate a mediocre 40 year-old who promptly ripped up his heel on the fourth play from scrimmage.

Well said but I want it on record that I won't be openly rooting against him when he first is called upon. If Miami loses a lot of games which i think they are set up for and if Tua lands on IR for any length of time, Wilson could be just the guy to shift us into Top 3-5 territory for top pick in the 2026 Draft

Tua can be released Post June 1st '26 and Miami would save $48M against the cap
Salary cap or the actual dollars are Stephen Ross' problem not mine so I try not to get caught up in all of it but it's worth noting because it's an easy way out for the Phins

 

[rockaction]

Wilson could be just the guy to shift us into Top 3-5 territory for top pick in the 2026 Draft

This sounds about right, sadly.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I don’t think that a coach watches more than two games with him without committing harakiri.

Nobody in their right mind signs this guy to play behind Tua. The Jets GM almost got fired for doing that (he eventually got canned anyway). This guy made an organization go all-in to sign and placate a mediocre 40 year-old who promptly ripped up his heel on the fourth play from scrimmage.

Well said but I want it on record that I won't be openly rooting against him when he first is called upon. If Miami loses a lot of games which i think they are set up for and if Tua lands on IR for any length of time, Wilson could be just the guy to shift us into Top 3-5 territory for top pick in the 2026 Draft

Tua can be released Post June 1st '26 and Miami would save $48M against the cap
Salary cap or the actual dollars are Stephen Ross' problem not mine so I try not to get caught up in all of it but it's worth noting because it's an easy way out for the Phins

Wilson would have the chance to do the funniest thing ever and take MIA to the playoffs.