Question for Commissioners (1 Viewer)

[mt-wabo]

In my CBS Sportsline league Aaron Rodgers was incorectly charged with having a fumble on Sunday but on Tuesday late in the morning CBS Sportsline said he didnt have a fumble and I ended up losing by one point because of this issue. My question to the commissioners or anyone else with an opinion is what would you do in this situation because when the games were over on Monday night the gmaes were final in my opinion but then some corporate decision was made and they reversed the outcome? I have no problem if the change is made the next day but not after all the games have gone final.

Right now the commish wants us to work a decision out between each party the team that didnt think they won aftre Monday night only to see they did on Tuesady Morning wants to take the high road and give the win to me because we dont want to upset each other or cause friction in the league, what would you guys do in this situation.

Thanks

 

[apalmer]

If you're using the default Rules for Sportsline, they state:

Statistics CorrectionsFollowing the completion of each week's games, all statistics and point totals are verified, and corrections are made where necessary. However, all statistics and point totals for the week are considered FINAL as of 11:59:59 PM ET on Wednesday. If a stat correction is announced for the previous weekend's games after 11:59:59 PM ET on Wednesday or later, it will not be included in our statistics and your official Fantasy score will be based on the original statistic.

Corrections are routinely made on Tuesday, which is the day after games are completed. There's no reason for them to make corrections piece-meal; if they did, they'd possibly have to make corrections on Friday, Sunday (once Saturday games start), Monday and Tuesday. It makes much more sense to make them all on Tuesday. Correcting stats to be accurate should be applauded, not resisted.

 

[Duke1948]

for MFL the scoring corrections generally come out on thursday and you have the option as to weather you want them applied.

 

[BaBastage]

This comes up several times each season. Although it's probably too late for you now, you need to have a rule in your league's bylaws stating what source of scoring is "official" and the cutoff date (Tuesday, before the start of next week's games, etc.)

Although it sucks to be on the receiving end, Tuesday adjustments by your scoring/league service are to be expected and in the absence of a rule, you probably need to live with it.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Let it go. In the end the stat error was corrected and the right team won. For you to have won with this error not corrected would have been a little tainted, no?

It's a hobby, don't lose sleep over it. This advice coming from a guy who has been on the recieving end of a loss in the exact scenario (actually, not exact - I had a win by 1/2 point changed to a loss when a play was reversed from a reception to a rush...correctly changed...but I still wound up going from a win to a loss in a playoff game...not this year fortunately or I wouldn't be nearly so rational about it).

 

[geoff8695]

Let it go. In the end the stat error was corrected and the right team won. For you to have won with this error not corrected would have been a little tainted, no?

It's a hobby, don't lose sleep over it. This advice coming from a guy who has been on the recieving end of a loss in the exact scenario (actually, not exact - I had a win by 1/2 point changed to a loss when a play was reversed from a reception to a rush...correctly changed...but I still wound up going from a win to a loss in a playoff game...not this year fortunately or I wouldn't be nearly so rational about it).

 

[GregR_2]

Let it go. In the end the stat error was corrected and the right team won. For you to have won with this error not corrected would have been a little tainted, no?

It's a hobby, don't lose sleep over it. This advice coming from a guy who has been on the recieving end of a loss in the exact scenario (actually, not exact - I had a win by 1/2 point changed to a loss when a play was reversed from a reception to a rush...correctly changed...but I still wound up going from a win to a loss in a playoff game...not this year fortunately or I wouldn't be nearly so rational about it).

I agree, very good posting.And for the OP, I completely disagree with you that the end of NFL games should be the end of fantasy games. As others have stated, stat corrections come out a day or two after that point. Further, not everyone can be at the computer on Sunday and/or Monday and owners should have a day or two to be able to review the scores, make sure their opponent had a legal lineup, etc.

I think the deadline for games being final that makes the most sense, is the start of games the following week.

 

[PosterNutBag]

If you're using the default Rules for Sportsline, they state:

Statistics Corrections

Following the completion of each week's games, all statistics and point totals are verified, and corrections are made where necessary. However, all statistics and point totals for the week are considered FINAL as of 11:59:59 PM ET on Wednesday. If a stat correction is announced for the previous weekend's games after 11:59:59 PM ET on Wednesday or later, it will not be included in our statistics and your official Fantasy score will be based on the original statistic.

Corrections are routinely made on Tuesday, which is the day after games are completed. There's no reason for them to make corrections piece-meal; if they did, they'd possibly have to make corrections on Friday, Sunday (once Saturday games start), Monday and Tuesday. It makes much more sense to make them all on Tuesday. Correcting stats to be accurate should be applauded, not resisted.

Several good responses by other in this thread, but this thing happens EVERY week. It's just this week it gets noticed in a major way.As I posted in this thread, it appears this was a mistake anyway since the Packers didn't even have one fumble by ANYONE in the game per the gamebook.

 

[Chaka]

He didn't fumble.

Why would you want to win/tie a game based on false information?

 

[LionsFan78]

In my CBS Sportsline league Aaron Rodgers was incorectly charged with having a fumble on Sunday but on Tuesday late in the morning CBS Sportsline said he didnt have a fumble and I ended up losing by one point because of this issue. My question to the commissioners or anyone else with an opinion is what would you do in this situation because when the games were over on Monday night the gmaes were final in my opinion but then some corporate decision was made and they reversed the outcome? I have no problem if the change is made the next day but not after all the games have gone final.

Right now the commish wants us to work a decision out between each party the team that didnt think they won aftre Monday night only to see they did on Tuesady Morning wants to take the high road and give the win to me because we dont want to upset each other or cause friction in the league, what would you guys do in this situation.

Thanks

Not sure I really agree with the bolded part here.

 

[Wrigley]

HOBBY? This is life!!!!

 

[eric rymer]

If you're using the default Rules for Sportsline, they state:

Statistics Corrections

Following the completion of each week's games, all statistics and point totals are verified, and corrections are made where necessary. However, all statistics and point totals for the week are considered FINAL as of 11:59:59 PM ET on Wednesday. If a stat correction is announced for the previous weekend's games after 11:59:59 PM ET on Wednesday or later, it will not be included in our statistics and your official Fantasy score will be based on the original statistic.

Corrections are routinely made on Tuesday, which is the day after games are completed. There's no reason for them to make corrections piece-meal; if they did, they'd possibly have to make corrections on Friday, Sunday (once Saturday games start), Monday and Tuesday. It makes much more sense to make them all on Tuesday. Correcting stats to be accurate should be applauded, not resisted.

In my CBS Sportsline league Aaron Rodgers was incorectly charged with having a fumble on Sunday but on Tuesday late in the morning CBS Sportsline said he didnt have a fumble and I ended up losing by one point because of this issue. My question to the commissioners or anyone else with an opinion is what would you do in this situation because when the games were over on Monday night the gmaes were final in my opinion but then some corporate decision was made and they reversed the outcome? I have no problem if the change is made the next day but not after all the games have gone final.

Right now the commish wants us to work a decision out between each party the team that didnt think they won aftre Monday night only to see they did on Tuesady Morning wants to take the high road and give the win to me because we dont want to upset each other or cause friction in the league, what would you guys do in this situation.

Thanks

Not sure I really agree with the bolded part here.

Agreed. it's not his job to pawn the decision on the two teams involved. Rodgers did not fumble...stats guys fixed the issue. No one should win a game because the initial stat reporting was wrong. If it cost you the win, so be it. If you got the win, congrats...

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Stat corrections happen every week, you just haven't noticed them. This week at Fanball, the Titans Defense was credited with allowing 143 yards instead of 150. We offer bonus points for less than 150. It never changed, I won by three. I should have won the game by 6. If I lost by 4, I would have made the change. In our league the rules state specifically that is is an owners responsibility to check his game scores to see if that they are accurate. If they are not (stat error or scoring changes) they have until the kickoff of the first game of the week to dispute it with specific erors they want addressed.

 

[anakin]

I apply the stat changes when myfantasyleague makes them available. 2 games so far have been changed by the stat changes and we are waiting out another one as we had a .9 pt winner this past week, what is right is right. I'm just glad they have to make adjustments on Thursdays now. Friday or Saturday new results are not fun to dish out.

 

[puckalicious]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.

Next season make sure your league rules state that the CBS score is official to make it clear. We added in a caveat that the NFL gamebook is the official stat listing in case CBS misses a correction, and that owners have until the next week's first kickoff to get a score corrected.

 

[mozzy84]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.

 

[Chaka]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.Next season make sure your league rules state that the CBS score is official to make it clear. We added in a caveat that the NFL gamebook is the official stat listing in case CBS misses a correction, and that owners have until the next week's first kickoff to get a score corrected.

It's also kind of bush league to try and finagle a win off of incorrect statistics.

 

[puckalicious]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.Next season make sure your league rules state that the CBS score is official to make it clear. We added in a caveat that the NFL gamebook is the official stat listing in case CBS misses a correction, and that owners have until the next week's first kickoff to get a score corrected.

It's also kind of bush league to try and finagle a win off of incorrect statistics.

We actually use the NFL play-by-play section as the final word on stats. Hopefully those are rarely incorrect.

 

[Chaka]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.Next season make sure your league rules state that the CBS score is official to make it clear. We added in a caveat that the NFL gamebook is the official stat listing in case CBS misses a correction, and that owners have until the next week's first kickoff to get a score corrected.

It's also kind of bush league to try and finagle a win off of incorrect statistics.

We actually use the NFL play-by-play section as the final word on stats. Hopefully those are rarely incorrect.

Doesn't the Elias Sports Bureau have the final say on NFL stats?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.Next season make sure your league rules state that the CBS score is official to make it clear. We added in a caveat that the NFL gamebook is the official stat listing in case CBS misses a correction, and that owners have until the next week's first kickoff to get a score corrected.

It's also kind of bush league to try and finagle a win off of incorrect statistics.

I agree, but give the guy a break. He's unhappy that a playoff win turned into a loss. He'll get over it, but I can understand not wanting to let go just yet. Again, I agree with the end result but a stat correction that ends your season is tough.

 

[Chaka]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.Next season make sure your league rules state that the CBS score is official to make it clear. We added in a caveat that the NFL gamebook is the official stat listing in case CBS misses a correction, and that owners have until the next week's first kickoff to get a score corrected.

It's also kind of bush league to try and finagle a win off of incorrect statistics.

I agree, but give the guy a break. He's unhappy that a playoff win turned into a loss. He'll get over it, but I can understand not wanting to let go just yet. Again, I agree with the end result but a stat correction that ends your season is tough.

True but I think it would be tougher for the other guy if it was not corrected.

 

[inca911]

Our rules:

The league agrees to abide by the statistical decisions made by the NFL and reflected in the boxscores on NFL.com. Scoring may be corrected if all of the following criteria are met:

1. The NFL officially changes the statistics as reflected in the boxscores on NFL.com

2. The issue is brought to the commissioner's attention prior the kickoff of the first game of the following week (i.e., all Week 10 scores are final at the kickoff of the first Week 11 game)

 

[Phurfur]

In my CBS Sportsline league Aaron Rodgers was incorectly charged with having a fumble on Sunday but on Tuesday late in the morning CBS Sportsline said he didnt have a fumble and I ended up losing by one point because of this issue. My question to the commissioners or anyone else with an opinion is what would you do in this situation because when the games were over on Monday night the gmaes were final in my opinion but then some corporate decision was made and they reversed the outcome? I have no problem if the change is made the next day but not after all the games have gone final. Right now the commish wants us to work a decision out between each party the team that didnt think they won aftre Monday night only to see they did on Tuesady Morning wants to take the high road and give the win to me because we dont want to upset each other or cause friction in the league, what would you guys do in this situation.Thanks

Man up, you lost. Why don't you take the high road and accept the loss?

 

[Scrooloose]

My rules state that if the NFL makes an official stat change by Thursday morning, the score gets adjusted and could change outcomes. It isnt fair to the team that was erroneously charged a fumble that caused them to incorrectly lose.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

FF scores are based on what actually happened in a real live NFL game. Rodgers did not ever fumble in the game. CBS corrected the error and that is the official score. There is no room for argument and it is bush league for your commish to dump it on you.Next season make sure your league rules state that the CBS score is official to make it clear. We added in a caveat that the NFL gamebook is the official stat listing in case CBS misses a correction, and that owners have until the next week's first kickoff to get a score corrected.

It's also kind of bush league to try and finagle a win off of incorrect statistics.

I agree, but give the guy a break. He's unhappy that a playoff win turned into a loss. He'll get over it, but I can understand not wanting to let go just yet. Again, I agree with the end result but a stat correction that ends your season is tough.

True but I think it would be tougher for the other guy if it was not corrected.

Of course. It should get corrected. I just understand he's upset and will have to take a tough loss, so I'd cut him a little slack. if he was demanding it not be changed a week later, that's different.