Question for Jets homers (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

We have a week 17 championship game. I have the Jets defense stashed on my roster because of their tasty matchup in the final week. Oakland @ NYJ. Is it even worth hanging onto this bunch for the possibility of using them for that one game? I think a 20-3 victory with some sacks and turnovers against an especially disinterested Raiders team in the final week isn't out of the realm of possibility. Would you agree?

Do you see Mangini's defense getting better as we move along this year? They looked really good for three quarters yesterday. Hey, it's a start. Thanks.

 

[Z-Dog]

The ACF forum is a good place to ask strategy questions specific to your team.

As for the Jets defense, they have two big problems. One, they aren't really good at stopping the run. They have an undersized out-of-position and overrated DT in Dewayne Robertson whom they are lining up at NT. Shaun Ellis is an undersized 3-4 DE also (about 280 lbs), and Vilma is an undersized interior LB in a 304 (he's 230 lbs). All this has led to teams with good O-lines being able to maul the Jets with the run.

The second problem is very little pass-rush. The LBs aren't much for getting pressure on the QB either. I believe that the team leader in sacks is safety Kerry Rhodes.

What the Jets do have is a pretty good secondary. Andre Dyson has three picks to lead the team, and Justin Miller and Kerry Rhodes are also around the ball. If your league lumps special teams in with defense, the Jets are a mroe attractive option as well, thanks to the return abilities of Leon Washington, Justin Miller, and Tim Dwight.

I imagine that most teams think they will improve as the season progresses, and perhaps the fact that the Jets are learning a new system gives some credence for the belief that they will improve. Personally, I don't know.

I figure Mangini is not stupid. He knew that the Jets didn't really have the personell for a 3-4. However, that is still the abse system that he wants to use, and he wants the players to get used to that kind of scheme. However, I think that like most good coaches, he will adjust to what will give the team the best chacne to win. We know that in mature form we can expect to see the Jets using 3-4, 4-3 and any number of other fronts as well. For the time being it's mostly 3-4, but once the staff feels like the team can execute 3-4, they will begin to go with other fronts as well. Therfore, I thinkn the Jets could actually have worse results later in the season on defense, as they mix in more and more packages and fronts.

 

[Sopranos]

Im starting them the next 2 weeks.. VS lions and @ Cle

 

[sdsjr3]

The Jets D is certainly not the caliber of a Bears, Jags, Chargers, Ravens, Steelers or Broncos. But after that...they are right there. Lots of youth and what they've done so far (aside from the Jags game) is pretty much what you can expect for the remainder of the season.

Very Good, but not great. Nice matchup play tho if you ask me. If I didn't have the Chargers, who I can insert and forget about on all my teams, I'd be grabbing the Jets for their remaining schedule. Only 3 remaining games are bad matchups. NE, Chi, and Minnesota (because it's AT Minny).

 

[NYRAGE]

As far as the defense goes, we have no pass rush and can't stop the run. If you feel that the Raiders will be disinterested and careless with the ball, then maybe, but it won't be because of the defense. Although, if you include special teams, Justin Miller gives you a better than average chance of scoring a kick return td.

I think the defense will get better, but marginally. The players will more accustomed to their 3-4 assignments, but they still don't have much talent on the defense. They need a pass-rushing OLB next year. The secondary has some talent, but without a pass rush, every secondary is susceptible to plays by the offense.

I disagree with the guys that think we should be using the 4-3 because our players are better suited to that system. The Jets 4-3 defense was 28th or 29th in defense last year. We were still bad. You might as well play the system that you think will have more long-term success. It will benefit the players that will be around next season. Second of all, we play multiple defenses and are in the 4-3 more than you think.

 

[Chase Stuart]

They looked really good for three quarters yesterday. Hey, it's a start. Thanks.

Not really. That's been the formula for 4 of the 6 games this year, and in every game but the Jaguars debacle, the Jets D looked like a sieve in the 4th quarter. Absolutely horrible 4th quarter D, I'd imagine the worst in the NFL.That being said, that Jets team might be playing for a playoff spot in week 17, against a very disinterested Raiders team. So sure, I'd save them.

(With games against Detroit, Cleveland, Miami, Houston, Buffalo, Green Bay and Minnesota, the Jets can get to 8 or 9 wins heading into that Raiders game.)