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Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

gruecd said:
Keggers said:
That's good to hear Gruecd! I forget...did you say you're doing the Cellcom 1/2 or full?

After doing the Crazylegs 8K on Saturday, I did my 10 mile distance run on Monday. Then did another 5 miles (42:00) on Tuesday. Thursday I'll do a medium length run of 8 miles. I'm feeling better and better about completing the 1/2 on May 17!
Nice job, Keggers. Way to keep at it!As of right now, I'm 99.9% sure that I'm doing the Half. Like I've said before, I really want to do the full marathon, because it's a flat, fast course, and the weather is generally nice and cool. My BQ time (3:10) is right at the outer edge of my ability on a perfect day, and while I'm planning to train really hard for my fall marathon, the weather for Chicago is so unpredictable that I hate to pass up the opportunity at Green Bay. Unfortunately, I would be seriously undertrained, since (1) I lost a month of training recovering from my blow-up at RNR Arizona in January, and (2) I lost another 4-6 weeks because of my sore knee. There's part of me that still wants to take a shot at it, but I'd really have to believe that I could run 3:10, because otherwise I know I'd be better off just saving my body for Chicago (vs. losing another month recovering).

Long story short -- almost certain that I'm doing the half. But still leaving the door open for the full, if only the tiniest sliver....
The 60 yo on our team that ran Boston just under 3.5 hr followed that up by qualifying for the World Duathlon Championships at the 10k/40k/5k event last weekend in Richmond. Interesting twist on recovery.
 
3m recovery run.

1m- 9:07

2m- 8:12

3m- 8:10

I'm looking to do some speed work next time out- any ideas? I was thinking of doing either 2x 1/2m pickups or 1x 1m pickup in the middle of a 4m run. :thumbup: .... I blanking out on other ideas.

eta: fartleks! I can't remember wth they are....

 
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5 mile warm-up on trail: 44:55, average HR 141

1600: 8:09, average HR 145-150

1600: 8:00, average HR 145-150

800: 3:23 HR 150-160

 
Good tip in a weekly "run-mail" I get about heat acclimation:

Yo Run Gang,

</IMG>Yesterday's run, 47 degrees, windy and raining and I'm lovin' it! I'm so excited about every running day above 40 degrees that nothing can bother me; the Michigan winter has done its job!

Warm days are coming and for those of us who ran all winter outdoors, heat adaptation will be important. A good way to start is to overdress a bit on cool spring days. It's tempting to run in shorts, just because you can run in shorts! But even for my run yesterday at 47 degrees, I wore tights, jacket, gloves, hat, the whole bit. Overdressing on the cool days will pay off as the warm days hit. Heat is a serious enemy, an enemy that you can't dress for and need to respect; getting the body heat adapted will help.

One more tip, as the weather warms the combination of bare thighs, sweat and friction equals chafe. I'm a huge Body Glide fan. Body Glide is comes in a form like a stick deodorant. It is a non greasy, long lasting chafe preventer. Try it on you nipples! (A guy thing).

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My update, swam 2,300 yards in 50 minutes tonight in weird sets with quick breathers in between. Did a 500 leg, a 1,000 leg and an 800. No idea why, it just seemed to be a good routine. They stuck a thrasher in my lane which was cool tri training to try and avoid his wave wash. I was all arms tonight as my legs are still cooked from Sunday.

 
And I also hear you about hearing 10k thread voices in my head when I hit a rough spot on runs. You guys (or at least your imaginary voices) got me through my tougher runs back in the marathon training- and even lately, I'll hit a tired section on my way home and feel a sense of obligation to HTFU.
Me, too. Had 10 miles on the schedule for tonight, but by the time I got home from work, I was tired, and my legs felt heavy after five straight days and 40 miles of running. Nevertheless, headed out the door and made it about a quarter-mile before stopping and deciding to take tomorrow's SRD a day early. Walked back to the house, but then thought of you guys and headed back out. Did the 10 miles at a nice, comfortable 7:56 average pace. Now I can enjoy tomorrow's rest day guilt-free.
 
And I also hear you about hearing 10k thread voices in my head when I hit a rough spot on runs. You guys (or at least your imaginary voices) got me through my tougher runs back in the marathon training- and even lately, I'll hit a tired section on my way home and feel a sense of obligation to HTFU.
Me, too. Had 10 miles on the schedule for tonight, but by the time I got home from work, I was tired, and my legs felt heavy after five straight days and 40 miles of running. Nevertheless, headed out the door and made it about a quarter-mile before stopping and deciding to take tomorrow's SRD a day early. Walked back to the house, but then thought of you guys and headed back out. Did the 10 miles at a nice, comfortable 7:56 average pace. Now I can enjoy tomorrow's rest day guilt-free.
You guys are killing me with your speeds. I am now on treadmills because of the heat and wind here. I can run 5.5mph fairly comfortable. I can do 6.0mph with struggle. I did the couch to 5k program. As you guys know I did my first 5k last month. I just feel like I should be doing better. When I see comfortable 7:56 avg pace my jaw drops. :lmao: Am I doing something wrong? I am really doing this for health reasons but I sure would like to be a "real runner". Any suggestions?Here is some good news. I quit one of my cholesterol meds due to I could not afford them. This coincided with my exercise and eating better. I had lab work done and the doctor said my cholesterol was doing great. He told me I could stay off the meds and just keep doing what I am doing. I also scored a free sample of Cialis for fun. :lmao:
 
Battling through a combination of let down from the (lack of) marathon and life just getting in the way (both mother and mother in law have had major surgeries in the past 6 days; travel; and still on the job search). I've spent more time in hospitals and airports than anywhere else since last Tuesday! So haven't managed the time for a long run since the 1/2, but did today get a second 5 mile trail-run in for the week. Hoping to wrap up the job search with an offer expected tomorrow that I plan on accepting, and after family comes to town and leaves this weekend, I should be able to get back on track. Feel like I'm just holding on, barely, to both my fitness and my sanity!

 
Am I doing something wrong? I am really doing this for health reasons but I sure would like to be a "real runner". Any suggestions?
First of all, no, you're not doing anything wrong. And there's no such thing as a "real" runner. I've got marathoner friends who knock out Boston qualifiers with regularity. Even when they have a "bad" day, they make it with time to spare. For me (like I said before), qualifying is right on the outer edge of my ability on a perfect day. I don't consider myself anything less than a "real" runner, but it's undeniable that some people have lots more natural ability than I do.
 
And I also hear you about hearing 10k thread voices in my head when I hit a rough spot on runs. You guys (or at least your imaginary voices) got me through my tougher runs back in the marathon training- and even lately, I'll hit a tired section on my way home and feel a sense of obligation to HTFU.
Me, too. Had 10 miles on the schedule for tonight, but by the time I got home from work, I was tired, and my legs felt heavy after five straight days and 40 miles of running. Nevertheless, headed out the door and made it about a quarter-mile before stopping and deciding to take tomorrow's SRD a day early. Walked back to the house, but then thought of you guys and headed back out. Did the 10 miles at a nice, comfortable 7:56 average pace. Now I can enjoy tomorrow's rest day guilt-free.
You guys are killing me with your speeds. I am now on treadmills because of the heat and wind here. I can run 5.5mph fairly comfortable. I can do 6.0mph with struggle. I did the couch to 5k program. As you guys know I did my first 5k last month. I just feel like I should be doing better. When I see comfortable 7:56 avg pace my jaw drops. :tinfoilhat: Am I doing something wrong? I am really doing this for health reasons but I sure would like to be a "real runner". Any suggestions?Here is some good news. I quit one of my cholesterol meds due to I could not afford them. This coincided with my exercise and eating better. I had lab work done and the doctor said my cholesterol was doing great. He told me I could stay off the meds and just keep doing what I am doing. I also scored a free sample of Cialis for fun. :tinfoilhat:
Keep at it. You're doing exactly what you need to do, especially with the health results you're reporting. Some of these guys are doing something that I'll probably never do. But, I appreciate the advice and support beyond belief.
 
And I also hear you about hearing 10k thread voices in my head when I hit a rough spot on runs. You guys (or at least your imaginary voices) got me through my tougher runs back in the marathon training- and even lately, I'll hit a tired section on my way home and feel a sense of obligation to HTFU.
Me, too. Had 10 miles on the schedule for tonight, but by the time I got home from work, I was tired, and my legs felt heavy after five straight days and 40 miles of running. Nevertheless, headed out the door and made it about a quarter-mile before stopping and deciding to take tomorrow's SRD a day early. Walked back to the house, but then thought of you guys and headed back out. Did the 10 miles at a nice, comfortable 7:56 average pace. Now I can enjoy tomorrow's rest day guilt-free.
You guys are killing me with your speeds. I am now on treadmills because of the heat and wind here. I can run 5.5mph fairly comfortable. I can do 6.0mph with struggle. I did the couch to 5k program. As you guys know I did my first 5k last month. I just feel like I should be doing better. When I see comfortable 7:56 avg pace my jaw drops. :tinfoilhat: Am I doing something wrong? I am really doing this for health reasons but I sure would like to be a "real runner". Any suggestions?

Here is some good news. I quit one of my cholesterol meds due to I could not afford them. This coincided with my exercise and eating better. I had lab work done and the doctor said my cholesterol was doing great. He told me I could stay off the meds and just keep doing what I am doing. I also scored a free sample of Cialis for fun. :tinfoilhat:
Here is the victory. Way more important than times.Oh, and HTFU. :tinfoilhat:

 
but I sure would like to be a "real runner". Any suggestions?
Stop. If yer strappin' on the shoes and headed out the door on a regular basis - yer a real runner. Especially so if :banned:Edit to add:Poppa couldn't run a 7:56 pace over any distance to save his life... :banned:
 
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Battling through a combination of let down from the (lack of) marathon and life just getting in the way (both mother and mother in law have had major surgeries in the past 6 days; travel; and still on the job search). I've spent more time in hospitals and airports than anywhere else since last Tuesday! So haven't managed the time for a long run since the 1/2, but did today get a second 5 mile trail-run in for the week. Hoping to wrap up the job search with an offer expected tomorrow that I plan on accepting, and after family comes to town and leaves this weekend, I should be able to get back on track. Feel like I'm just holding on, barely, to both my fitness and my sanity!
On the fitness side, with all the work you put in training for the marathon, a little recovery time after the 1/2 isn't the worst thing that could happen and should offset any "loss" of fitness (which has been slim to none!). When things settle for you, you may even be ahead of the game when you return to training. As a thought, if time only permits short runs, do'em quick as speed work versus no run at all, this should help a little on the sanity side. On this side of things, :fingerscrossed: on the job offer. You are more than holding on here and it sounds like you re doing everything right to support (both income-wise and with all that is going on) your family and move forward. To help stay positive, which I am sure is tough, go look for a marathon in the near-term that you think will work when you get the new job and the family stress abates. I find that stress goes down a bit when I feel like I am doing something about and a little race/run planning in your head might just take your mind off of other things, even it is only for a few moments (heck, do the thinking during a short run).
 
And I also hear you about hearing 10k thread voices in my head when I hit a rough spot on runs. You guys (or at least your imaginary voices) got me through my tougher runs back in the marathon training- and even lately, I'll hit a tired section on my way home and feel a sense of obligation to HTFU.
Me, too. Had 10 miles on the schedule for tonight, but by the time I got home from work, I was tired, and my legs felt heavy after five straight days and 40 miles of running. Nevertheless, headed out the door and made it about a quarter-mile before stopping and deciding to take tomorrow's SRD a day early. Walked back to the house, but then thought of you guys and headed back out. Did the 10 miles at a nice, comfortable 7:56 average pace. Now I can enjoy tomorrow's rest day guilt-free.
You guys are killing me with your speeds. I am now on treadmills because of the heat and wind here. I can run 5.5mph fairly comfortable. I can do 6.0mph with struggle. I did the couch to 5k program. As you guys know I did my first 5k last month. I just feel like I should be doing better. When I see comfortable 7:56 avg pace my jaw drops. :blackdot: Am I doing something wrong? I am really doing this for health reasons but I sure would like to be a "real runner". Any suggestions?Here is some good news. I quit one of my cholesterol meds due to I could not afford them. This coincided with my exercise and eating better. I had lab work done and the doctor said my cholesterol was doing great. He told me I could stay off the meds and just keep doing what I am doing. I also scored a free sample of Cialis for fun. :excited:
Go find a guy that was in the shape you were in 6-months ago and challenge him to a 5K the next day. See who the "real runner" is at the end. Don't forget the exchange with your dentist you posted here. When asked if you are a runner, your correct reply was "yes I am". "Unreal runners" are those that think about getting out there and never do. You are a "real runner", no go find a race to run.
 
It has been about a year since I posted, and I missed the motivation you guys provide. The reason I didn't post is that I stopped running as much. I went out one day in July to do 15 miles and the heat was so bad I stopped after 7 or so. I tried again next week and actually ran even less, then I kinda drifted away to avoid running in the heat. I tried running on a treadmill but I hate that with a passion. Last month we bought our first home in Orange City, Fl and I started running again. I am taking it nice and slow to get back into it, but last evening I got in 3.58 miles. The most since last July, and it felt great. My breath was short, my legs were burning and I can't wait until tonight's run.

Of course I have pics of the house here and here.

I really doubt if I ever seriously try to run competitively in my age group again, but running for fun is alright by me.

 
It has been about a year since I posted, and I missed the motivation you guys provide. The reason I didn't post is that I stopped running as much. I went out one day in July to do 15 miles and the heat was so bad I stopped after 7 or so. I tried again next week and actually ran even less, then I kinda drifted away to avoid running in the heat. I tried running on a treadmill but I hate that with a passion. Last month we bought our first home in Orange City, Fl and I started running again. I am taking it nice and slow to get back into it, but last evening I got in 3.58 miles. The most since last July, and it felt great. My breath was short, my legs were burning and I can't wait until tonight's run.

Of course I have pics of the house here and here.

I really doubt if I ever seriously try to run competitively in my age group again, but running for fun is alright by me.
Darrin!!!So good to see you back in here. As somebody who is a non-regular runner, I empathize with hitting a wall or lack of interest in the activity every now and then. Even though when I get back into things, it sucks having to struggle through things that I could have run backwards previously, I'm slowly coming to grips that- for me at least- the struggle back is rewarding too. And just getting the legs and heart going again are vital for my physical and emotional health.

Anyways- don't feel like you have to keep quiet just because you're not banging out 15 mile runs. I know I've missed having you and your inspirational story around- don't be a stranger!

 
It has been about a year since I posted, and I missed the motivation you guys provide. The reason I didn't post is that I stopped running as much. I went out one day in July to do 15 miles and the heat was so bad I stopped after 7 or so. I tried again next week and actually ran even less, then I kinda drifted away to avoid running in the heat. I tried running on a treadmill but I hate that with a passion. Last month we bought our first home in Orange City, Fl and I started running again. I am taking it nice and slow to get back into it, but last evening I got in 3.58 miles. The most since last July, and it felt great. My breath was short, my legs were burning and I can't wait until tonight's run.

Of course I have pics of the house here and here.

I really doubt if I ever seriously try to run competitively in my age group again, but running for fun is alright by me.
Darrin!!!So good to see you back in here. As somebody who is a non-regular runner, I empathize with hitting a wall or lack of interest in the activity every now and then. Even though when I get back into things, it sucks having to struggle through things that I could have run backwards previously, I'm slowly coming to grips that- for me at least- the struggle back is rewarding too. And just getting the legs and heart going again are vital for my physical and emotional health.

Anyways- don't feel like you have to keep quiet just because you're not banging out 15 mile runs. I know I've missed having you and your inspirational story around- don't be a stranger!
Real, real ;) Welcome Back Darrin!!!
 
I'm looking to do some speed work next time out- any ideas? I was thinking of doing either 2x 1/2m pickups or 1x 1m pickup in the middle of a 4m run. :whistle: .... I blanking out on other ideas.

eta: fartleks! I can't remember wth they are....
:tinfoilhat:
To prep for the short 5K & 4-mile distances that are part of the Sprint Tris, starting next week (hopefully) I am going to try a do a day each week at the HS track. Its 1/3 of a mile from my house which gives me a decent warm up. There, I plan on doing 1/4 mile alternates of 1/4 mile sprints, 1/4 walks and repeat. I am going to push the first week to see if I can do 3 miles like this. My other run during the week is going to be part of a bike/run brick and I am going to try and do the sprint distances of 12.4 on the bike & a 5K run. I know these aren't the recommended norms, but I like the 1/4 on/off work and it add some speed for me back a couple of years ago. Distance running lately has slowed my 5K speed. The last 5K I did was the end of a Sprint Tri last September. I did it in just over 24 minutes as I recall, but would like to knock a minute to a minute and a 1/2 off this.
 
I'm looking to do some speed work next time out- any ideas? I was thinking of doing either 2x 1/2m pickups or 1x 1m pickup in the middle of a 4m run. :whistle: .... I blanking out on other ideas.

eta: fartleks! I can't remember wth they are....
:tinfoilhat:
To prep for the short 5K & 4-mile distances that are part of the Sprint Tris, starting next week (hopefully) I am going to try a do a day each week at the HS track. Its 1/3 of a mile from my house which gives me a decent warm up. There, I plan on doing 1/4 mile alternates of 1/4 mile sprints, 1/4 walks and repeat. I am going to push the first week to see if I can do 3 miles like this. My other run during the week is going to be part of a bike/run brick and I am going to try and do the sprint distances of 12.4 on the bike & a 5K run. I know these aren't the recommended norms, but I like the 1/4 on/off work and it add some speed for me back a couple of years ago. Distance running lately has slowed my 5K speed. The last 5K I did was the end of a Sprint Tri last September. I did it in just over 24 minutes as I recall, but would like to knock a minute to a minute and a 1/2 off this.
Thanks Baldy- I've got a track near me too... the 1/4 mile pickups sound like an option too.What are your guys' takes on doing 1/4 vs 1/2 or full mile speed work? I seem to recall doing a little bit of everything during my tri days- including laddered pickups. I've got no idea what makes sense for me to do in my current (lack of) condition.

 
I'm looking to do some speed work next time out- any ideas? I was thinking of doing either 2x 1/2m pickups or 1x 1m pickup in the middle of a 4m run. :shrug: .... I blanking out on other ideas.

eta: fartleks! I can't remember wth they are....
:popcorn:
To prep for the short 5K & 4-mile distances that are part of the Sprint Tris, starting next week (hopefully) I am going to try a do a day each week at the HS track. Its 1/3 of a mile from my house which gives me a decent warm up. There, I plan on doing 1/4 mile alternates of 1/4 mile sprints, 1/4 walks and repeat. I am going to push the first week to see if I can do 3 miles like this. My other run during the week is going to be part of a bike/run brick and I am going to try and do the sprint distances of 12.4 on the bike & a 5K run. I know these aren't the recommended norms, but I like the 1/4 on/off work and it add some speed for me back a couple of years ago. Distance running lately has slowed my 5K speed. The last 5K I did was the end of a Sprint Tri last September. I did it in just over 24 minutes as I recall, but would like to knock a minute to a minute and a 1/2 off this.
Thanks Baldy- I've got a track near me too... the 1/4 mile pickups sound like an option too.What are your guys' takes on doing 1/4 vs 1/2 or full mile speed work? I seem to recall doing a little bit of everything during my tri days- including laddered pickups. I've got no idea what makes sense for me to do in my current (lack of) condition.
When I was training I was alternating the speed distance. 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile then back to a quarter. I read somewhere that varying the distance stops your body form becoming used to just going that distance at speed.I forgot to mention before, the neighborhood I moved into has hills. Oh my god, I have one hill that goes up 70 ft in about a tenth of a mile (more or less). I am just not used to these things. I long for flat Daytona Beach. :)

 
Oh my god, I have one hill that goes up 70 ft in about a tenth of a mile (more or less). I am just not used to these things. I long for flat Daytona Beach. :wub:
13% grade. I was gonna suggest hill repeats, but that's a bit much. :coffee:
 
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I'm looking to do some speed work next time out- any ideas? I was thinking of doing either 2x 1/2m pickups or 1x 1m pickup in the middle of a 4m run. :shrug: .... I blanking out on other ideas.

eta: fartleks! I can't remember wth they are....
:X
To prep for the short 5K & 4-mile distances that are part of the Sprint Tris, starting next week (hopefully) I am going to try a do a day each week at the HS track. Its 1/3 of a mile from my house which gives me a decent warm up. There, I plan on doing 1/4 mile alternates of 1/4 mile sprints, 1/4 walks and repeat. I am going to push the first week to see if I can do 3 miles like this. My other run during the week is going to be part of a bike/run brick and I am going to try and do the sprint distances of 12.4 on the bike & a 5K run. I know these aren't the recommended norms, but I like the 1/4 on/off work and it add some speed for me back a couple of years ago. Distance running lately has slowed my 5K speed. The last 5K I did was the end of a Sprint Tri last September. I did it in just over 24 minutes as I recall, but would like to knock a minute to a minute and a 1/2 off this.
Thanks Baldy- I've got a track near me too... the 1/4 mile pickups sound like an option too.What are your guys' takes on doing 1/4 vs 1/2 or full mile speed work? I seem to recall doing a little bit of everything during my tri days- including laddered pickups. I've got no idea what makes sense for me to do in my current (lack of) condition.
I'm not sure how to link a website....however, Runner's World had a great article in their April 2009 issue. "Mix Up Your Routine" This is one workout that's mentioned....it's 4.5 miles total. I love this workout and it can be altered to fit your fitness level:A 150-pound runner doing a four-miler at a nine-minute pace burns about 480 calories. But you can torch more calories, speed weight loss, and spark up your workouts by swapping that four-miler with one of these high-intensity runs one to three times a week.

RUT BUSTER: Intervals

WHAT: Alternating sprints of a certain distance (such as 400 meters) with recovery laps; often done at a measured track

WHY: Sprinting at high speeds makes your body work harder and burns up to 30 percent more calories to keep up with the demand.

HOW: 4 x 400 meters hard (max speed), separated by an easy 400-meter recovery lap

8 x 200 meters hard, separated by an easy 200 meters

4 x 100 meters hard, walking back to the start between sprints to recover

CALORIES BURNED: 700

 
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Am I doing something wrong? I am really doing this for health reasons but I sure would like to be a "real runner". Any suggestions?
First of all, no, you're not doing anything wrong. And there's no such thing as a "real" runner. I've got marathoner friends who knock out Boston qualifiers with regularity. Even when they have a "bad" day, they make it with time to spare. For me (like I said before), qualifying is right on the outer edge of my ability on a perfect day. I don't consider myself anything less than a "real" runner, but it's undeniable that some people have lots more natural ability than I do.
Don't let him fool you, Pro. Gru's trick is that he runs downhill with a tailwind both on the way out, and on the way back.
 
gruecd said:
Darrinll40 said:
Oh my god, I have one hill that goes up 70 ft in about a tenth of a mile (more or less). I am just not used to these things. I long for flat Daytona Beach. :unsure:
13% grade. I was gonna suggest hill repeats, but that's a bit much. :rolleyes:
I may be off a bit, but that is how my garmin 305 measured it.
 
prosopis - great to hear about the cholesterol improvement! I agree that that's more important than achieving a particular pace. Be patient on your times; be happy with this news!

floppo - if you've got track access, you're all set. Repeat 400's, or 800's, or 200's. Whatever! Here's an old Jim Ryan workout: 400, 400, 200, 200 with a minute rest between each; then a 5 minute break (easy walk/jog around the track); then repeat the set a couple of times. You'll be tired after the 400's, but you can still maintain form on the shorter 200's. Repeating the set challenges you to add endurance to your speed work.

darrin - :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: You keep your weight down during the run hiatus, my friend?

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7 mile run in the drizzle/rain this morning.

 
It has been about a year since I posted, and I missed the motivation you guys provide. The reason I didn't post is that I stopped running as much. I went out one day in July to do 15 miles and the heat was so bad I stopped after 7 or so. I tried again next week and actually ran even less, then I kinda drifted away to avoid running in the heat. I tried running on a treadmill but I hate that with a passion. Last month we bought our first home in Orange City, Fl and I started running again. I am taking it nice and slow to get back into it, but last evening I got in 3.58 miles. The most since last July, and it felt great. My breath was short, my legs were burning and I can't wait until tonight's run.

Of course I have pics of the house here and here.

I really doubt if I ever seriously try to run competitively in my age group again, but running for fun is alright by me.
Welcome back Darrin. I have not been in this thread for about a month as I train for my half marathon at the end of May. Life just got really busy, but I have still been running. I still like checking up on how people are doing and reading race reports.

I had probably my best run ever on Saturday of this week. I ran 9.2 miles in 1:14. I had a goal of finishing in 1:20 so I took off at a faster pace than I normally run. About halfway through my run I saw a mall clock that told me I was at 38 minutes. I kept pushing myself just to see what time I could post for this distance. When I got home and saw it was only 1:14 I was pretty suprised. The second half of my run is pretty hilly and I did not know if I could maintain my pace from the first half. After doing the math it is just over an 8 minute mile. The fact that I left myself over 40 minutes to post a sub 1:50 in my half has me really rethinking my goal time for May 31st. Last year I ran a 1:56:30 and conditions were perfect on that day and I felt great. I wanted to beat that time this year, so I have trained much harder. I never imagined that I could run under a 1:50, but now that at least has to be on the board as a goal.

Last year I had 3 goals for my first half. #1 finish, #2 finish without walking, #3 finish under 2 hours. This year I think #3 will be finish under 1:50.

Prosopis. I was in your shoes 2 years ago when I started running. 5.5 mph was what I ran at for the first few months. The more I ran the faster I was able to go. Just keep putting in the miles. Sure some of these guys post some impressive times and their easy runs are our goals, but there is something cool about be a beginning runner. The improvement you will see over then next few years if you stick with it will not be matched by many here. You will be dropping minutes off PR over the next few years. The personal growth is a fun process to go through.

 
gruecd said:
Darrinll40 said:
Oh my god, I have one hill that goes up 70 ft in about a tenth of a mile (more or less). I am just not used to these things. I long for flat Daytona Beach. :lmao:
13% grade. I was gonna suggest hill repeats, but that's a bit much. :lmao:
I may be off a bit, but that is how my garmin 305 measured it.
GREAT to have you back in here Darrin!!!! Garmin's have a lot of trouble with elevation with tall things around (buildings and/or trees). As I said recently; there is no stopping/starting running = Just resting between sets. Ecstatic to have you back in here. Floppo: lots of different ways to work on speed.1) run hard for two street lights, run slow for one;2) listen to a radio station and run hard during music; slow during talk3) 1 mile intervals with 800's in between4) every 10th step speed up a little; until you can't go any faster; then slow down every 5th step until your HR is back; rinse/repeat5) find a 2x2 block (= a square); run 3 of the blocks slow then 1 block hard; next run two hard two slow; then 3 hard 1 slow; then 3 and 1 again; followed by 2 and 2; and 1 and 36) Run with my spastic dog. She will take off when she isn't smelling anything fun; then will slow down when she does. Just a few ideas! My Update:Did a spin class this noon; and will most likely do a 67 mile race/ride this weekend (as long as I can twist a friends arm to join me).
 
prosopis - great to hear about the cholesterol improvement! I agree that that's more important than achieving a particular pace. Be patient on your times; be happy with this news!floppo - if you've got track access, you're all set. Repeat 400's, or 800's, or 200's. Whatever! Here's an old Jim Ryan workout: 400, 400, 200, 200 with a minute rest between each; then a 5 minute break (easy walk/jog around the track); then repeat the set a couple of times. You'll be tired after the 400's, but you can still maintain form on the shorter 200's. Repeating the set challenges you to add endurance to your speed work.darrin - :excited: :unsure: :unsure: You keep your weight down during the run hiatus, my friend?------7 mile run in the drizzle/rain this morning.
For the most part. I am hovering around 220 right now. That is about my normal non running weight. I expect it will start dropping off soon.
 
Got in 2.41 miles in the afternoon heat, it was sunny and about 85. Real slow still , but for now I am taking walk breaks of a tenth mile every mile and just basically keeping my pace slow throghout.

The great thing about starting over, is that I did it once before and this time I will just skip making all the mistakes.

I just checked the garmin and I went up 96 ft over 4 tenths of a mile.

 
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anyone have the Garmin Forerunner 305? My wife got it for me for my birthday, but at xmas time she got my a Polar HR monitor (no GPS). Wondering if keeping the Garmin is worth it since I have a new Polar HRM. Any thoughts? I don't need both...

 
GREAT to have you back in here Darrin!!!! Garmin's have a lot of trouble with elevation with tall things around (buildings and/or trees). As I said recently; there is no stopping/starting running = Just resting between sets. Ecstatic to have you back in here.
Depends on the Garmin. The ones that are GPS only do a poor job (GPS does a poor job at elevation). The ones that have barometric elevation sensors are pretty good. Edge 305, 705, and some of the newer handheld units do that.Oh - complaining about a 13% grade? HTFU. I wish my neighborhood (and track that I ride regularly) was that flat. Both are 17% or so average uphill grade.
 
Thanks for the replys everyone. I did not get to the gym today and I miss it. I cant wait to get back at it tommorrow. I am starting to feel like I am addicted to it.

 
Today was supposed to be a rest day with 4 easy miles tomorrow. But when I got home, it was 70 degrees and sunny, so I went out and did four McConaughey miles. Focused on an easy effort but never really paid attention to my Garmin, and ended up averaging 7:20s. Go figure.

Might play some pick-up hoops tomorrow morning. Not sure yet how far I'm gonna go on Saturday. Somewhere between 12 & 18. Depends how much I drink tomorrow night. :goodposting:

 
gruecd said:
McConaughey miles.
This cracks me up.Did 7 miles on the treadmill last night. I wanted to run outside but the threat of rain was too much (never did rain).
OK, Keggers, I've gotta call you out on this one. You didn't run outside because of the threat of rain???? I can understand not wanting to go out there because it's raining already, but because of the threat that it might rain??? We need to get a "HTFU" emoticon around here like the "good posting" one. Somebody get on that.And I must admit that I stole the "McConaughey miles" thing from a buddy of mine on the RWOL forums who, like Mr. McConaughey, has an affinity for taking his shirt off. While I'm on the subject, here's a link to Matt Damon impersonating McConaughey. Good stuff.

Did get up and play hoops this morning, but I shot like crap. I did have a bunch of blocks, but it was hardly worth getting out of bed at 5:15. Supposed to have the day off from running today, but might do a couple of super easy miles after work. We'll see how it goes.

 
gruecd said:
McConaughey miles.
This cracks me up.Did 7 miles on the treadmill last night. I wanted to run outside but the threat of rain was too much (never did rain).
OK, Keggers, I've gotta call you out on this one. You didn't run outside because of the threat of rain???? I can understand not wanting to go out there because it's raining already, but because of the threat that it might rain??? We need to get a "HTFU" emoticon around here like the "good posting" one. Somebody get on that.And I must admit that I stole the "McConaughey miles" thing from a buddy of mine on the RWOL forums who, like Mr. McConaughey, has an affinity for taking his shirt off. While I'm on the subject, here's a link to Matt Damon impersonating McConaughey. Good stuff.

Did get up and play hoops this morning, but I shot like crap. I did have a bunch of blocks, but it was hardly worth getting out of bed at 5:15. Supposed to have the day off from running today, but might do a couple of super easy miles after work. We'll see how it goes.
hahaha..I know, I know. :) I shouldn't have even written that. I didn't want to get halfway out and be caught in the rain. At least I still got my miles in! My other excuse: I'm still trying to dry out from Crazylegs. Downpoured almost the entire run! The group I was with said they wouldn't have run if it wasn't for me encouraging them. So I got them to HTFU. My last excuse: I don't have the proper equipment to carry liquids with me durning runs. Therefore, on runs of 5+ miles the treadmill is convenient. :scared:
 
A question.

Last year whenever I would go on runs of 8 miles or more I would take a energy packet with me. I would take the packet around mile 5. I guess I never really felt an energy surge, but figured it was helping some. A few weeks ago I ran out of packets and have not stopped in to a store to grab any more. The last several Saturdays I have gone on 9+ mile runs. No water, no gel packets. I have to say that these last few long runs have felt just like the times that I do have packets with me. I have used both GU and blokshots (?), but neither of them seem to do much for me. I would really like to get an energy boost, but honestly do not feel like these things are worth it. Are there other brands that people have found more helpful, or another energy source for during long runs?

 
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My last excuse: I don't have the proper equipment to carry liquids with me durning runs. Therefore, on runs of 5+ miles the treadmill is convenient. :)
OK, that one is poor. You really don't need to carry any fluids for a five-mile run, but what's wrong with just grabbing a bottle of water out of the fridge? Check out this website. I love the Hydraform Handheld for anything under 8-10 miles. No more excuses. Newbies. :popcorn: :shrug:
 
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gruecd said:
McConaughey miles.
This cracks me up.Did 7 miles on the treadmill last night. I wanted to run outside but the threat of rain was too much (never did rain).
OK, Keggers, I've gotta call you out on this one. You didn't run outside because of the threat of rain???? I can understand not wanting to go out there because it's raining already, but because of the threat that it might rain??? We need to get a "HTFU" emoticon around here like the "good posting" one. Somebody get on that.And I must admit that I stole the "McConaughey miles" thing from a buddy of mine on the RWOL forums who, like Mr. McConaughey, has an affinity for taking his shirt off. While I'm on the subject, here's a link to Matt Damon impersonating McConaughey. Good stuff.

Did get up and play hoops this morning, but I shot like crap. I did have a bunch of blocks, but it was hardly worth getting out of bed at 5:15. Supposed to have the day off from running today, but might do a couple of super easy miles after work. We'll see how it goes.
I thought it meant cruising the local High School without a shirt (alright, alright, alright!).We've got off and on rain here, but I'll be running anyways- I always figure that if it can rain on race-day, I better be used to training in it.

 
A question.Last year whenever I would go on runs of 8 miles or more I would take a energy packet with me. I would take the packet around mile 5. I guess I never really felt an energy surge, but figured it was helping some. A few weeks ago I ran out of packets and have not stopped in to a store to grab any more. The last several Saturdays I have gone on 9+ mile runs. No water, no gel packets. I have to say that these last few long runs have felt just like the times that I do have packets with me. I have used both GU and blokshots (?), but neither of them seem to do much for me. I would really like to get an energy boost, but honestly do not feel like these things are worth it. Are there other brands that people have found more helpful, or another energy source for during long runs?
First off- what do you mean by "energy packet"?I always figure that anything under an hour doesn't need any kind of refuel- water, gel, whatever. Once I start getting into the 60-90min range, I start taking a little sports drink (again- I'm a high mineral-content sweater and need the electrolytes to go with the hydration). If I'm starting to get past 90min I start thinking about replacing more than just liquids and electrolytes- this is where I might add anything from a gel for the shorter durations on up to turkey sandwiches for longer (4-8hr range).My superficial understanding of all this is that after 90minutes your body/muscles starts to feed off itself and not the fuel you have in your system. If you're going much past that 90min mark, you have to seriously start figuring out carb replacement or start cramping/bonking.
 
anyone have the Garmin Forerunner 305? My wife got it for me for my birthday, but at xmas time she got my a Polar HR monitor (no GPS). Wondering if keeping the Garmin is worth it since I have a new Polar HRM. Any thoughts? I don't need both...
I have a 305 and really can't imagine running/riding w/o it. GPS = speed, distance information at all times. Combine this with HR data, and and elevation information and you have a training tool. Knowing HR is nice, but you need the other inputs to know what is going on. My .02.
A question.Last year whenever I would go on runs of 8 miles or more I would take a energy packet with me. I would take the packet around mile 5. I guess I never really felt an energy surge, but figured it was helping some. A few weeks ago I ran out of packets and have not stopped in to a store to grab any more. The last several Saturdays I have gone on 9+ mile runs. No water, no gel packets. I have to say that these last few long runs have felt just like the times that I do have packets with me. I have used both GU and blokshots (?), but neither of them seem to do much for me. I would really like to get an energy boost, but honestly do not feel like these things are worth it. Are there other brands that people have found more helpful, or another energy source for during long runs?
You don't necessarily feel an energy boost with gels; they just keep you from losing energy. IF you aren't taking any nutrition and your not slowing down after 90+ minutes; you need to speed up and work harder (= you are not burning all your fuel). I am a GU fan, mostly bc I like the flavors, and have used it for so long. When I'm working out early in the morning (i.e., 5 am), and know it's going to be a hard workout I'll either take a RedBull or NoXplode to wake up (with these I do feel the energy right away).
 
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