Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[pmbrown_22]

July and YTD totals as of 7/31: Swimming: 7 swims, 8.7 miles (15,000 yards) for July, 40.4 miles (71,100 yards) total Biking: 6 rides, 91 miles for July, 830 miles totalRunning: 13 runs, 95 miles for July, 628 miles totalI know compared to a lot of you guys my running totals are very low, but 628 YTD actually represents a 62% increase over last year at this time, so I'm pretty happy with that. I didn't keep track of biking or swimming totals last year, but I didn't do much of either.

Your total miles are quite impressive though. If you factor in the time of your workouts, you are definitely putting in quality workouts. As much as just us running guys.

 

[bostonfred]

there's just one guy, maybe late 40s, who looks like the master of his age group, and nobody behind him. And I actually think I can outrun him on the final stretch, but I see him looking over his shoulder at me, so I keep even with him, instead. And while he's absolutely booking it, I'm actually laying up a little, and finally I yell, man, you're too good, and drop back one extra step. The look of pride on his face was priceless as he crossed the finish line,

Can't believe you were late for another race, though!

I had Pink Floyd in my head while I ran solo trying to catch up. No one told you when to run. You missed the starting gunnnnnn.....

 

[BassNBrew]

prosopis - Sorry about your johnson, but WTF are you doing wearing underwear when you run?! Don't you wear running shorts with the built-in liner??

I wear both. Is that wrong? I only have one pair of running shorts so other times I am just wearing various shorts. I do wear under wear with the running shorts though.

Yes, I would say you shouldn't wear both. If you wear running shorts with a liner - and IMO you should always run in running shorts with a liner - it's not necessary. I will admit that I wear my underarmor under my tri-shorts. Part of that is to keep the boys from chafing against my thighs, and part of that is just needing an extra layer between me and the world in those shorts.

I'm not a big fan of the linear shorts. One thing is that they design them for people with regular legs. By the time I find a pair with comfortable leg openings the linear is so loose that it bunches in the #### and the junk bounces around and out of the linear. I rotate between the under armor type of stuff, bike shorts/bib on bricks, an old school jock, or tighty whitey style in something other than cotton under a pair of soccer shorts.

 

[The_Man]

Monthly totals to date for 2010

Jan - 46

Feb – 58

March - 73

April - 85

May – 137

June - 64

July - 104

I started running last summer, then quit in September for a couple of months when my job got too busy/I got too lame. Looking at these numbers reminds me that I'm still basically a newbie, which is good to remember sometimes when I either try to do too much and/or get frustrated.

I am proudest of breaking 1:45 in my HM despite - in retrospect - running very small totals in training (in my defense, the 4 feet of snow we got in two weeks definitely impacted what I could run). I am least proud of - again, in retrospect - making the newbie mistake of upping my mileage too fast, resulting in the inevitable injury. Without even trying to, I had a nice monthly progression going, which I blew up in May.

I have 146 scheduled for August, which makes me a little nervous. 104 to 146 is a big jump. Although that's a little deceptive, since I ran 12 miles on Aug. 1. If you add that 12 to July's total and subtract it from August the mileage jump is only 116 to 132.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Regardless ditch the underwear and good luck...

I will try this today. I have to drive my daughter to school and then I am gonna hit the streets. I am hoping I hit it before it gets to 100 out there.

You'll never go back to wearing cotton underwear after you run in lined shorts.

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I did kind of a crappy 12 today. This was supposed to be an easy step-back run, and at first I thought the weather was going to be great. It was heavily overcast at the start and even had a very slight drizzle going, but after only three miles it was as if every cloud in the sky suddenly evaporated leaving me with heavy sunlight, lots of humidity, and temperatures heading quickly toward 80. I still finished with no issues, but that was hotter than I would have liked.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Monthly totals to date for 2010Jan - 46Feb – 58March - 73April - 85May – 137June - 64July - 104I started running last summer, then quit in September for a couple of months when my job got too busy/I got too lame. Looking at these numbers reminds me that I'm still basically a newbie, which is good to remember sometimes when I either try to do too much and/or get frustrated.I am proudest of breaking 1:45 in my HM despite - in retrospect - running very small totals in training (in my defense, the 4 feet of snow we got in two weeks definitely impacted what I could run). I am least proud of - again, in retrospect - making the newbie mistake of upping my mileage too fast, resulting in the inevitable injury. Without even trying to, I had a nice monthly progression going, which I blew up in May.I have 146 scheduled for August, which makes me a little nervous. 104 to 146 is a big jump. Although that's a little deceptive, since I ran 12 miles on Aug. 1. If you add that 12 to July's total and subtract it from August the mileage jump is only 116 to 132.

My opinion is that you will be fine for the bigger increase. Mostly, I say this because you are following a plan and that plan has the gradual step ups that you need to take as well. You can always back off a bit or take an extra rest day if you are feeling a bit worn down.As far as being a newbie, I still feel as though I am a newbie and am constantly learning new things from here and reading new stuff every time I pick up Runner's World. I think that running is something that you will always learn from because as you get better, your body also changes so you have to adjust your style or training to accommodate those changes. Even every day something could change. One good quote that I got from a running buddy, "Every day you run is a different run. You cannot compare two days because everything could be different from the previous run that you took." It is so true. If you think of all the factors that go into you getting a run in and everything that can change in a day, every day is a unique run.

 

[D_House]

Did a brisk 5K training run this AM, felt great at 8:05/mile pace.

Noob questions on the lined shorts:

Are these designed to reduce chafing? I wear cotton boxer briefs under cotton mesh short and haven't had any problems yet, but I'm training for a marathon and my long has only been a 12 miler so far. If I haven't had a problem should I stick with what has been working?

Also, are these the really short shorts that some runners wear? What fabric are these made out of? What brands are recommended?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Did a brisk 5K training run this AM, felt great at 8:05/mile pace.

Noob questions on the lined shorts:

Are these designed to reduce chafing?

The lined shorts reduce chafing, but the main advantage is that they wick away sweat. Cotton is gross because once it gets sweaty, it stays sweaty and tends to cling. This leads to chafing, and it also tends keeps you hot because its hard for sweat to evaporate when its trapped under a loaded-down cotton shirt. I can't remember the last time I ran in cotton of any kind, and there's no way I would wear cotton underwear.

I wear cotton boxer briefs under cotton mesh short and haven't had any problems yet, but I'm training for a marathon and my long has only been a 12 miler so far. If I haven't had a problem should I stick with what has been working?

Go ahead and make the switch. If you're training for anything more serious than your local 5K, there's no excuse for not having some decent running gear. Running shorts and technical shirts aren't particularly expensive. You don't have to buy Nike or UnderArmor to get good gear. Most of the stuff that I wear is from Road Runner Sports and it's fine (although their shorts seem to be sized too small).

Also, are these the really short shorts that some runners wear?

You can get lined shorts in a variety of inseams. All of my running shorts are 7"-9". I can't pull off the 3" inseam look.

What fabric are these made out of? What brands are recommended?

Not sure about the fabrics, but they contain no cotton. They're mostly polyester and other synthetics. Some use bamboo. If you go to any decent sporting goods store, they'll have a pretty good selection of moisture-wicking clothing. You'll want to try on shorts because different manufacturers size things a little differently, but for shirts, I have 6-8 variations of this. Good luck, and trust me -- once you've worn tech gear, you'll never go back to cotton.

 

[prosopis]

6.2 miles in 92 degrees today. I went with the shorts/liners and no choneys. It was FANTASTIC!!! I feel sort of dumb that I have been wearing under wear with those. I have to get more of these shorts. The heat here is so freaking hot. The last 2 miles of that 6.2 was pretty much a walk of shame but at least I did it. I am pretty spent and it is pretty apparent I need to hydrate more.

 

[wraith5]

Did a brisk 5K training run this AM, felt great at 8:05/mile pace.Noob questions on the lined shorts: Are these designed to reduce chafing? I wear cotton boxer briefs under cotton mesh short and haven't had any problems yet, but I'm training for a marathon and my long has only been a 12 miler so far. If I haven't had a problem should I stick with what has been working?Also, are these the really short shorts that some runners wear? What fabric are these made out of? What brands are recommended?

I wear Brooks Notch shorts, which have a full boxer brief under the shorts, because my thighs are pretty thick and tend to chafe. Add a little Body Glide before long runs, just in case, and I'm good to go. Prosopis - great job!!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

6.2 miles in 92 degrees today. I went with the shorts/liners and no choneys. It was FANTASTIC!!!

 

[The_Man]

As far as being a newbie, I still feel as though I am a newbie and am constantly learning new things from here and reading new stuff every time I pick up Runner's World. I think that running is something that you will always learn from because as you get better, your body also changes so you have to adjust your style or training to accommodate those changes. Even every day something could change. One good quote that I got from a running buddy, "Every day you run is a different run. You cannot compare two days because everything could be different from the previous run that you took." It is so true. If you think of all the factors that go into you getting a run in and everything that can change in a day, every day is a unique run.

This is interesting - I think I've changed my stride, getting away from being such a heavy heel-striker to run more efficiently. It will be interesting to see if my shoe needs have changed the next time I go to replace a pair.

 

[FUBAR]

6.2 miles in 92 degrees today. I went with the shorts/liners and no choneys. It was FANTASTIC!!! I feel sort of dumb that I have been wearing under wear with those. I have to get more of these shorts. The heat here is so freaking hot. The last 2 miles of that 6.2 was pretty much a walk of shame but at least I did it. I am pretty spent and it is pretty apparent I need to hydrate more.

awesome! Reminds me of old friends who would wear whiteys, spandex, and our lined running shorts. Talk about padding, these guys were practically wearing diapers.

 

[D_House]

Did a brisk 5K training run this AM, felt great at 8:05/mile pace.

Noob questions on the lined shorts:

Are these designed to reduce chafing?

The lined shorts reduce chafing, but the main advantage is that they wick away sweat. Cotton is gross because once it gets sweaty, it stays sweaty and tends to cling. This leads to chafing, and it also tends keeps you hot because its hard for sweat to evaporate when its trapped under a loaded-down cotton shirt. I can't remember the last time I ran in cotton of any kind, and there's no way I would wear cotton underwear.

I wear cotton boxer briefs under cotton mesh short and haven't had any problems yet, but I'm training for a marathon and my long has only been a 12 miler so far. If I haven't had a problem should I stick with what has been working?

Go ahead and make the switch. If you're training for anything more serious than your local 5K, there's no excuse for not having some decent running gear. Running shorts and technical shirts aren't particularly expensive. You don't have to buy Nike or UnderArmor to get good gear. Most of the stuff that I wear is from Road Runner Sports and it's fine (although their shorts seem to be sized too small).

Also, are these the really short shorts that some runners wear?

You can get lined shorts in a variety of inseams. All of my running shorts are 7"-9". I can't pull off the 3" inseam look.

What fabric are these made out of? What brands are recommended?

Not sure about the fabrics, but they contain no cotton. They're mostly polyester and other synthetics. Some use bamboo. If you go to any decent sporting goods store, they'll have a pretty good selection of moisture-wicking clothing. You'll want to try on shorts because different manufacturers size things a little differently, but for shirts, I have 6-8 variations of this. Good luck, and trust me -- once you've worn tech gear, you'll never go back to cotton.

Thanks IK. I need new running shoes so I'll take a look at lined shorts while I'm shopping for shoes this weekend.

 

[tri-man 47]

I wear Brooks Notch shorts, which have a full boxer brief under the shorts, because my thighs are pretty thick and tend to chafe. Add a little Body Glide before long runs, just in case, and I'm good to go.

Prosopis - great job!!

on the latter!For the bolded ...tell the guys about your cicada encounter, Mr. Legs-Like-Tree-Trunks.

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I picked up some new Brooks running shorts (with inner liner) at the RnR expo and took them out for a spin this morning (getting caught in a storm front passing through). Wonderfully light-weight shorts! As I cautiously work back into my running, I went to the track for some more walking/light jogging. I got in two half-miles of jogging with no irritation to my sore calf. :encouraged:

 

[FUBAR]

Not sure about the fabrics, but they contain no cotton. They're mostly polyester and other synthetics. Some use bamboo. If you go to any decent sporting goods store, they'll have a pretty good selection of moisture-wicking clothing. You'll want to try on shorts because different manufacturers size things a little differently, but for shirts, I have 6-8 variations of this. Good luck, and trust me -- once you've worn tech gear, you'll never go back to cotton.

With shirts, if you even need to wear one, you can buy a couple cheap like you posted or just wear old t-shirts like I occasionally do. Once you do a couple decent races, just wear the race shirts. The last few I've done have all given good tech shirts. I wear a couple of these for long car trips, they're just comfy. The only one I haven't worn much is my Kansas HIM, which is probably strange a I like it best, just don't want to ruin it but kind of feel like a dork wearing it out around town.

 

[Darrinll40]

I didn't realize that you guys were all wearing underwear of any kind. I have sveral pair of running shorts that I bought here, and several that I bought at sporting goods and running stores.

It is funny, the Bill Rodgers stuff was going out of business almost 4 years ago when I started running. I can't believe that they still have stock.

 

[prosopis]

I didn't realize that you guys were all wearing underwear of any kind. I have sveral pair of running shorts that I bought here, and several that I bought at sporting goods and running stores.

It is funny, the Bill Rodgers stuff was going out of business almost 4 years ago when I started running. I can't believe that they still have stock.

 

[Juxtatarot]

So what's the deal with passengers in cars yelling at runners at night? Bikers too. I don't ride bikes these days but also remember this same phenomenon when I was 15 and riding my bike home from my soda jerk job.

This is something that rarely happens during daylight hours but happens to me frequently during night runs. Almost always a male screamer (to be honest, the rare female screamer experience seems a bit erotic) and always intelligible. From the yeller's viewpoint, what's the play here? Are they trying to spook me for pleasure? Are they angry that I'm taking up part of the road? Every once in a while I think they are encouraging me onward. This can't be it, can it?

 

[Sand]

So what's the deal with passengers in cars yelling at runners at night? Bikers too. I don't ride bikes these days but also remember this same phenomenon when I was 15 and riding my bike home from my soda jerk job. This is something that rarely happens during daylight hours but happens to me frequently during night runs. Almost always a male screamer (to be honest, the rare female screamer experience seems a bit erotic) and always intelligible. From the yeller's viewpoint, what's the play here? Are they trying to spook me for pleasure? Are they angry that I'm taking up part of the road? Every once in a while I think they are encouraging me onward. This can't be it, can it?

Teenagers, mostly. Not much to do about it. Teenage boy? Blow them a kiss. That will get them ridiculed by the other kids in the car.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Regarding the underwear topic, tight boxer-briefs work fine for me. I can only run three or four miles in regular boxers before experiencing ball chaffing.

 

[Juxtatarot]

So what's the deal with passengers in cars yelling at runners at night? Bikers too. I don't ride bikes these days but also remember this same phenomenon when I was 15 and riding my bike home from my soda jerk job. This is something that rarely happens during daylight hours but happens to me frequently during night runs. Almost always a male screamer (to be honest, the rare female screamer experience seems a bit erotic) and always intelligible. From the yeller's viewpoint, what's the play here? Are they trying to spook me for pleasure? Are they angry that I'm taking up part of the road? Every once in a while I think they are encouraging me onward. This can't be it, can it?

Teenagers, mostly. Not much to do about it. Teenage boy? Blow them a kiss. That will get them ridiculed by the other kids in the car.

I always assumed it was 20-somethings. And drunk ones too.

 

[bentley]

So I'm a convert after reading Born to Run. Is anyone in minimalist shoes? I do most of my running on decomposed granite trails and the treadmill and I'm thinking about picking up a pair of the New Balance 100s. Any experience with them? Can I run a road race in them?

Bump to see if anyone has any thoughts on this.

 

[Juxtatarot]

So I'm a convert after reading Born to Run. Is anyone in minimalist shoes? I do most of my running on decomposed granite trails and the treadmill and I'm thinking about picking up a pair of the New Balance 100s. Any experience with them? Can I run a road race in them?

Bump to see if anyone has any thoughts on this.

I'd like to convert but not when I have a PR marathon goal. Maybe sometime next year.

 

[pigskinliquors]

there's just one guy, maybe late 40s, who looks like the master of his age group, and nobody behind him. And I actually think I can outrun him on the final stretch, but I see him looking over his shoulder at me, so I keep even with him, instead. And while he's absolutely booking it, I'm actually laying up a little, and finally I yell, man, you're too good, and drop back one extra step. The look of pride on his face was priceless as he crossed the finish line,

Can't believe you were late for another race, though!

I had Pink Floyd in my head while I ran solo trying to catch up. No one told you when to run. You missed the starting gunnnnnn.....

Thanks for the laugh BF. I'm also about the bruised brat!!!

I planned on running a very hilly 6 miler today prior to getting on the road back to Texas. I put my running shoes in my sister's garage the night before, and her dog decided to see what lock-laces tasted like. When I first went out to the garage (5:45 am) and noticed my shoes weren't there I realized that the dog likely took them (she had already eaten three of my daughters' flip flops). I opened the garage door, and noticed she had taken them through her doggie door and placed them near the driveway in the same spot as she did the three flip flops. I initially thought "awesome, I can get my run in!" As I approached them, I realized they had no laces whatsoever. I looked around for remnants but couldn't find any. My guess is that the little ##### ate the shoe laces. I'm not sorting her poo to find out.

I went back into the house, got some coffee and read the paper. My sister came out a bit later and asked why I didn't complete a run. I told her I was pretty sure the dog had eaten my shoe laces, and she thanked me, as shoe laces are her dogs "favorite." Little ####er!

I know I should have HTFU'd as the old "the dog ate my shoe laces" is a lame excuse. The only other non flip flops I have were my golf shoes, and I did contemplate wearing them. Before TriMan tells me I should have run barefoot, approximately 90 percent of the run would have been on gravel (not that it would stop him, but it was a deterrent to me). I now have one more day on the road, before I can get a workout in. My legs should certainly be rested.

 

[Darrinll40]

I just found out that on Tuesday Lafayette and West Lafayette, Indiana, told the race organizer to cancel the half marathon set for Oct 24. This really sucks, and not just because I am out the 300 dollars I spent on registration and flight bookings. I was really looking forward to seeing family and friends while there, not to mention running the streets where I grew up.

Right now I really need comfort food.

 

[gruecd]

I just found out that on Tuesday Lafayette and West Lafayette, Indiana, told the race organizer to cancel the half marathon set for Oct 24. This really sucks, and not just because I am out the 300 dollars I spent on registration and flight bookings. I was really looking forward to seeing family and friends while there, not to mention running the streets where I grew up.

Right now I really need comfort food.

That sucks, Darrin. That race director sounds like a serious d-bag. :( Regarding the comfort food, I've got a better idea. Go for a run, and blow off some steam that way!

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For me, 5-mile jungle recovery run last night. Shorts soaked after 2 miles, blah, blah, blah. Really starting to get old.

I'm supposed to do 10 with 6 tempo tonight, but I've got a little bit of a cold, and my legs don't feel fully recovered from Sunday, so unless I feel way better 12 hours from now, the tempo part probably won't happen.

Hope you all have a great day!

 

[pmbrown_22]

Slept in again this morning as we had storms rolling through. Wicked lightning and thunder to boot. Will do my 14 tonight. The sucky thing is that this puts me in a must do my 11 tomorrow night. I am not a big Friday night partier anyway, but I love getting my run in on Friday morning and not to worry about it the rest of the day. Oh well, I am a runner, crazier things have been done.

 

[El Floppo]

Ahem....

3 miles this morning.

Started off:

Legs=

Heart=

Lungs=

1/2mile to Central Park (which I haven't run in since the 07' NYC Marathon)

Legs=

Heart=

Lungs=

end of 2mile lower loop

Legs=

Heart=

Lungs=

The last 1/2 mile home was slow and low with Legs, heart and lungs all .

Found my Polar watch- out of juice... not that it would have mattered. For the next few weeks it will be about gettign everything settled down to and then I can get back into whatever training I can think of... now that I think of it- my gb signed me up for some kindof 10k mud run. No idea what that's about, but I guess I shoot for that one and maybe throw a 5 or 10k in in Central Park so 3yo Floppo Jr can see fat-guy run.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I just found out that on Tuesday Lafayette and West Lafayette, Indiana, told the race organizer to cancel the half marathon set for Oct 24. This really sucks, and not just because I am out the 300 dollars I spent on registration and flight bookings. I was really looking forward to seeing family and friends while there, not to mention running the streets where I grew up.

Right now I really need comfort food.

That's unbelievable. You should seriously push to get your registration fee back. If you have the time, you should consider suing for your flight as well, asuming it was nonrefundable. I'm not a lawyer, but this sounds like false advertising. We all understand that sometimes races get scrubbed (e.g. lighting) and that we're jus SOL in that scenario, but this is totally different.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I just found out that on Tuesday Lafayette and West Lafayette, Indiana, told the race organizer to cancel the half marathon set for Oct 24. This really sucks, and not just because I am out the 300 dollars I spent on registration and flight bookings. I was really looking forward to seeing family and friends while there, not to mention running the streets where I grew up.

Right now I really need comfort food.

That's unbelievable. You should seriously push to get your registration fee back. If you have the time, you should consider suing for your flight as well, asuming it was nonrefundable. I'm not a lawyer, but this sounds like false advertising. We all understand that sometimes races get scrubbed (e.g. lighting) and that we're jus SOL in that scenario, but this is totally different.

Taking the decoder ring to the article, doesn't it look like an attempted money grab, political move by the city? I'd have to bet this thing isn't dead yet.Darrin, I have a coworker who lives there who was planning on running the race. I'll send her an email and see if there is any other information she can provide on the status (and, stay away from the comfort food).

eta, got her Out of Office reply that she'll be back in the office on Monday. I'll keep you posted.

 

[tri-man 47]

I just found out that on Tuesday Lafayette and West Lafayette, Indiana, told the race organizer to cancel the half marathon set for Oct 24. This really sucks, and not just because I am out the 300 dollars I spent on registration and flight bookings. I was really looking forward to seeing family and friends while there, not to mention running the streets where I grew up.

Sorry to hear that, Darrin! Hope you get some $$ back on it.Bentley - I wouldn't say that I'm specifically a fan of minimalist shoes (yet), but I'm not a fan of the bigger-and-more-padded-the-better mentality of most of the shoe companies. The benefit of a minimalist shoe is that it encourages a more proper foot strike, and in the long run, I'd say that's a good thing.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I am a HUGE proponent of the "don't try anything new on race day" mantra, but am thinking of doing just that on Saturday. I am signed up to do a short sprint (500 yd swim, 10 mile bike & 5K run) and want to test out a Zoot sprint suit I eBayed. The plan was to do a few OWS with the suit after the HIM, but the hand injury has slowed me down (I see the surgeon this afternoon). The plan is to not push it Saturday anyway. I have been way sporadic in my training and want to try the suit before sprints in late August & September. I have a regular Zoot tri suit the same size that I have raced in, so it won't be totally foreign and I am dying to see what the suit will do in the water without a wetsuit. Thoughts?

Sand, I know you read up on this stuff a ton. What kind of benefits will a sprint speed suit give over a standard tri suit? There must be something there as IM 70.3 has contemplated banning them.

The alternative to the speed suit was going to be to just do the whole thing in a Speedo to prank my wife a bit. Her family lives over that way and a few of them are going to show up to watch. I think she would have been mortified to see me race in the Speedo (with the 2XUs of course) and I'd like her to speak to me after, so I canned the idea.

 

[Darrinll40]

Ahem....3 miles this morning. Started off:Legs= Heart= Lungs= 1/2mile to Central Park (which I haven't run in since the 07' NYC Marathon)Legs= Heart= Lungs= end of 2mile lower loopLegs= Heart= Lungs= The last 1/2 mile home was slow and low with Legs, heart and lungs all .Found my Polar watch- out of juice... not that it would have mattered. For the next few weeks it will be about gettign everything settled down to and then I can get back into whatever training I can think of... now that I think of it- my gb signed me up for some kindof 10k mud run. No idea what that's about, but I guess I shoot for that one and maybe throw a 5 or 10k in in Central Park so 3yo Floppo Jr can see fat-guy run.

Welcome back Floppo. Damn glad to see ya. Ok, I am staying away from comfort food, though I did have Subway for lunch. I am hoping that the cities put the race on though I did send a letter to the editor of the local paper. I think a nice 3.5 mile run in the heat and humidity tonight will be just the thing to make me forget for a while.

 

[El Floppo]

Ahem....3 miles this morning. Started off:Legs= Heart= Lungs= 1/2mile to Central Park (which I haven't run in since the 07' NYC Marathon)Legs= Heart= Lungs= end of 2mile lower loopLegs= Heart= Lungs= The last 1/2 mile home was slow and low with Legs, heart and lungs all .Found my Polar watch- out of juice... not that it would have mattered. For the next few weeks it will be about gettign everything settled down to and then I can get back into whatever training I can think of... now that I think of it- my gb signed me up for some kindof 10k mud run. No idea what that's about, but I guess I shoot for that one and maybe throw a 5 or 10k in in Central Park so 3yo Floppo Jr can see fat-guy run.

Welcome back Floppo. Damn glad to see ya. Ok, I am staying away from comfort food, though I did have Subway for lunch. I am hoping that the cities put the race on though I did send a letter to the editor of the local paper. I think a nice 3.5 mile run in the heat and humidity tonight will be just the thing to make me forget for a while.

Thanks Darrin. Gotta say, it only took about a block before I started to "hear" all your voices in my head and think about this thread.btw- it's a full mile from our place to Central Park, so I did 4m, not 3. :superman:

 

[El Floppo]

btw, Darrin- did I misread? Is your race still on, but just not affiliated with the city and all the previous sponsors? Or is it nixed entirely?

 

[Sand]

Sand, I know you read up on this stuff a ton. What kind of benefits will a sprint speed suit give over a standard tri suit? There must be something there as IM 70.3 has contemplated banning them.

I figure you are talking about the swim suits that have been banned for all FINRA swimming meets (Phelps et. al.). In non-wetsuit swims those would likely be a pretty big advantage, thought I wouldn't want to bike/run in one. I think they are just following the swimming bans.I know they just banned any wetsuit with rubber thicker than 5mm. The vast majority were under that, but some were being made over that (De Soto Water Rover) and they went ahead and nipped that in the bud.

 

[El Floppo]

I am a HUGE proponent of the "don't try anything new on race day" mantra, but am thinking of doing just that on Saturday. I am signed up to do a short sprint (500 yd swim, 10 mile bike & 5K run) and want to test out a Zoot sprint suit I eBayed. The plan was to do a few OWS with the suit after the HIM, but the hand injury has slowed me down (I see the surgeon this afternoon). The plan is to not push it Saturday anyway. I have been way sporadic in my training and want to try the suit before sprints in late August & September. I have a regular Zoot tri suit the same size that I have raced in, so it won't be totally foreign and I am dying to see what the suit will do in the water without a wetsuit. Thoughts?

Sand, I know you read up on this stuff a ton. What kind of benefits will a sprint speed suit give over a standard tri suit? There must be something there as IM 70.3 has contemplated banning them.

The alternative to the speed suit was going to be to just do the whole thing in a Speedo to prank my wife a bit. Her family lives over that way and a few of them are going to show up to watch. I think she would have been mortified to see me race in the Speedo (with the 2XUs of course) and I'd like her to speak to me after, so I canned the idea.

I missed that you did your 1/2- nice! Would love to hear/read about it.Definitely my favorite distance... no faking it, and the shortest percentage of swim of the races. Funny how when I was fit, an olympic somehow seemed easy to "fake". :( Nowadays... not so much.

 

[tri-man 47]

Sand, I know you read up on this stuff a ton. What kind of benefits will a sprint speed suit give over a standard tri suit? There must be something there as IM 70.3 has contemplated banning them.

I figure you are talking about the swim suits that have been banned for all FINRA swimming meets (Phelps et. al.). In non-wetsuit swims those would likely be a pretty big advantage, thought I wouldn't want to bike/run in one. I think they are just following the swimming bans.I know they just banned any wetsuit with rubber thicker than 5mm. The vast majority were under that, but some were being made over that (De Soto Water Rover) and they went ahead and nipped that in the bud.

Let's agree to buy 2Young an inflatable raft so that he doesn't have to get wet at all.

 

[Darrinll40]

btw, Darrin- did I misread? Is your race still on, but just not affiliated with the city and all the previous sponsors? Or is it nixed entirely?

As far as I know it is nixed entirely. I hope that they will restart it some other way.

 

[gruecd]

btw, Darrin- did I misread? Is your race still on, but just not affiliated with the city and all the previous sponsors? Or is it nixed entirely?

As far as I know it is nixed entirely. I hope that they will restart it some other way.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but without the city's cooperation, it's not gonna happen.

 

[wraith5]

btw, Darrin- did I misread? Is your race still on, but just not affiliated with the city and all the previous sponsors? Or is it nixed entirely?

As far as I know it is nixed entirely. I hope that they will restart it some other way.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but without the city's cooperation, it's not gonna happen.

Agreed. Sounds like the organizer was trying to keep all of the money collected for himself instead of sharing with a worthy cause. More power to him, except the locals ain't gonna let that slide.

 

[wraith5]

The alternative to the speed suit was going to be to just do the whole thing in a Speedo to prank my wife a bit. Her family lives over that way and a few of them are going to show up to watch. I think she would have been mortified to see me race in the Speedo (with the 2XUs of course) and I'd like her to speak to me after, so I canned the idea.

I don't know nothin' about speedsuits, but I am positive I read a description of one recently that said after this year it wasn't legal for ASAT events. Maybe it was specific to that one model or something.

 

[Darrinll40]

btw, Darrin- did I misread? Is your race still on, but just not affiliated with the city and all the previous sponsors? Or is it nixed entirely?

As far as I know it is nixed entirely. I hope that they will restart it some other way.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but without the city's cooperation, it's not gonna happen.

Agreed. Sounds like the organizer was trying to keep all of the money collected for himself instead of sharing with a worthy cause. More power to him, except the locals ain't gonna let that slide.

I am hoping that the cities will find another organizer, or organize it themselves, but I doubt it will happen. Since I already purchased the tickets I may just go up to visit family. I may ask a lawyer about suing the organizer for the money, but that probably won't happen either.I am still running the Daytona half on the 31st of October. So the training continues.

 

[wraith5]

FINALLY got out for a decent ride with my new bike set-up this morning. Looking back at my data for the year, I spend way too much time on the trainer v getting outside and actually GOING for a bike ride.

Anyway, of the outdoor rides I've done this year, I've only averaged over 18mph on 2 of them. Today, I averaged 19.3mph, and went one extra loop (2.8 miles) farther than any other training ride. My speed on the 6 loops was remarkably consistent: 19.2, 19.2, 19.4, 19.5, 19.2, 19.2. That I definitely haven't done before. So while I know I'm still slow compared to many of you on the bike, I think it's fair to say my new set-up makes a significant difference (I'm guessing close to a 10% improvement). Now I can't wait to see what I can do in the race on Sunday, and what kind of shape it'll leave me in for the run.

At lunch I went for a short swim (1000 meters) just to test the new goggles / ear plugs and tune up a bit for Sunday. Ear plugs - good. Goggles - marginal (they didn't have the same model I had at the tri store, so I had to get something different). They aren't especially comfortable on my eye sockets under my eyebrows, but they'll do the trick.

 

[Darrinll40]

I came home from work and found a reply from the event coordinator in my inbox. I emailed him from work today asking for a refund of everything from him. Here is his reply.

Where did you hear that? You have been misinformed.All systems go!In fact, I notice you are in Florida - we will be adding a Palm Coast Half Marathon January 23 and Dade City Half Marathon February 6. Also working on a Tampa Bay Marathon to intro in 2012!Look forward to seeing you at the races!Dean

I emailed him back the news article I posted before. Anyway, came home today to storms. Looks like it will be this way for a couple of hours which kills my run today. I would run in just rain, but there is thunder and lightening.

 

[El Floppo]

I came home from work and found a reply from the event coordinator in my inbox. I emailed him from work today asking for a refund of everything from him. Here is his reply.

Where did you hear that? You have been misinformed.All systems go!In fact, I notice you are in Florida - we will be adding a Palm Coast Half Marathon January 23 and Dade City Half Marathon February 6. Also working on a Tampa Bay Marathon to intro in 2012!Look forward to seeing you at the races!Dean

I emailed him back the news article I posted before. Anyway, came home today to storms. Looks like it will be this way for a couple of hours which kills my run today. I would run in just rain, but there is thunder and lightening.

Hmmm... that's kind of what I read from that article- not that the race was off, but that all parties outside of him had cut ties with it. Not sure exactly what that means in terms of street closures, police help, etc. You might still get a race out of this- but maybe a mess of a race.

 

[Darrinll40]

I came home from work and found a reply from the event coordinator in my inbox. I emailed him from work today asking for a refund of everything from him. Here is his reply.

Where did you hear that? You have been misinformed.All systems go!In fact, I notice you are in Florida - we will be adding a Palm Coast Half Marathon January 23 and Dade City Half Marathon February 6. Also working on a Tampa Bay Marathon to intro in 2012!Look forward to seeing you at the races!Dean

I emailed him back the news article I posted before. Anyway, came home today to storms. Looks like it will be this way for a couple of hours which kills my run today. I would run in just rain, but there is thunder and lightening.

Hmmm... that's kind of what I read from that article- not that the race was off, but that all parties outside of him had cut ties with it. Not sure exactly what that means in terms of street closures, police help, etc. You might still get a race out of this- but maybe a mess of a race.

If they have it, I will come. LOLI talked to the wife and we decided that I should take the trip anyway. Especially since it is already paid for.

 

[gruecd]

Hmmm... that's kind of what I read from that article- not that the race was off, but that all parties outside of him had cut ties with it. Not sure exactly what that means in terms of street closures, police help, etc. You might still get a race out of this- but maybe a mess of a race.

Like I said before, there's no way you can have the race without securing the necessary permit(s) from the city, police support, etc. Impossible.I hope he's telling you the truth, Darrin, but I wouldn't trust this guy. Sounds shady to me....

 

[BassNBrew]

FINALLY got out for a decent ride with my new bike set-up this morning. Looking back at my data for the year, I spend way too much time on the trainer v getting outside and actually GOING for a bike ride.

Anyway, of the outdoor rides I've done this year, I've only averaged over 18mph on 2 of them. Today, I averaged 19.3mph, and went one extra loop (2.8 miles) farther than any other training ride. My speed on the 6 loops was remarkably consistent: 19.2, 19.2, 19.4, 19.5, 19.2, 19.2. That I definitely haven't done before. So while I know I'm still slow compared to many of you on the bike, I think it's fair to say my new set-up makes a significant difference (I'm guessing close to a 10% improvement). Now I can't wait to see what I can do in the race on Sunday, and what kind of shape it'll leave me in for the run.

At lunch I went for a short swim (1000 meters) just to test the new goggles / ear plugs and tune up a bit for Sunday. Ear plugs - good. Goggles - marginal (they didn't have the same model I had at the tri store, so I had to get something different). They aren't especially comfortable on my eye sockets under my eyebrows, but they'll do the trick.

Drop the hammer this weekend.