Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

[sho nuff]

Odd illness that sapped my energy thursday...felt mostly fine friday...felt good to run yesterday morning then knocked my on my butt yesterday afternoon for a few hours.

I was ok by last night and feel pretty much normal today.

Just odd.

 

[prosopis]

Odd illness that sapped my energy thursday...felt mostly fine friday...felt good to run yesterday morning then knocked my on my butt yesterday afternoon for a few hours.I was ok by last night and feel pretty much normal today.Just odd.

Glad you are feeling better.

 

[sho nuff]

Odd illness that sapped my energy thursday...felt mostly fine friday...felt good to run yesterday morning then knocked my on my butt yesterday afternoon for a few hours.I was ok by last night and feel pretty much normal today.Just odd.

Glad you are feeling better.

Well, I was yesterday morning too. Perhaps that run yesterday was not the best idea. Though...even after it I felt fine til I started eating (Wendys with the kids before soccer...again, not the best idea).Going to take it easy today...hopefully feel fine for that beef tenderloin that is hitting the grill later.

 

[El Floppo]

Anybody doing NY? Good Luck!!!!

eta: fwiw, it's a brisk 39 here this morning, but completely clear and sunny. nice day for a race.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Great job, workhorse. Congrats on the new milestone.

 

[gruecd]

Quick update from me: I killled it at Savannah yesterday. 3:26:42. Went out way too fast and held on at the end for dear life but It was incredibly satisfying to break the 3 ans a half hour mark. Around mile 22, we went through a switchback section that put us in the teeth of a 20 mph headwind on a steady incline for nearly 2 miles on the highway. Not fun. If not for that one section, where my pace slowed to a crawl, I would have broken 3:25 with ease. All in all, very satisfied with my race.

Very nice, Workhorse. My half marathon yesterday pretty much sucked, but it's my own fault. I wasn't horribly motivated for this race, so I was out until bar close on Friday night drinking beer and doing shots of Patron. Ran the race untrained on four hours of sleep, dehydrated, etc. Finished in 1:31:12, average 6:58/mile. I was #38/924 overall and #10/81 M30-34. Whatever.

 

[Darrinll40]

Congrats to workhorse and all the other racers this weekend.

I finished my 5K in 27:14 chip time. I am very happy as I had doubts that I could beat 28 minutes.

As I put in my Facebook post, I finished 1st in age group. What I didn't say is that there were only 2 of us in 45-49, and I beat that guy by 5:53 .

But a win is a win, and today was my first ever.

 

[tri-man 47]

Congrats on the formal, and informal, runs to date this weekend! Pickles for those who nailed their races ...sand, workhorse, darrin. Darrin - fair's fair. Add your age group win to the list in Sand's sig. You're out there doin' it when others are not.

 

[Darrinll40]

Thanks tri-man. Th results are posted, I finished 23rd of 90.I think it is my first top 25 finish.

Age Group

Overall

There was a photographer so when they post those I will create a link. There were some really cute coeds there, though the wife somehow wasn't able to capture any of them on camera.

 

[Ned]

Quick update from me: I killled it at Savannah yesterday. 3:26:42. Went out way too fast and held on at the end for dear life but It was incredibly satisfying to break the 3 ans a half hour mark. Around mile 22, we went through a switchback section that put us in the teeth of a 20 mph headwind on a steady incline for nearly 2 miles on the highway. Not fun. If not for that one section, where my pace slowed to a crawl, I would have broken 3:25 with ease. All in all, very satisfied with my race.

3:26 is fantastic!!!! Way to kill it. I'd love to hear a detailed RR.

Congrats to workhorse and all the other racers this weekend. I finished my 5K in 27:14 chip time. I am very happy as I had doubts that I could beat 28 minutes. As I put in my Facebook post, I finished 1st in age group. What I didn't say is that there were only 2 of us in 45-49, and I beat that guy by 5:53 . But a win is a win, and today was my first ever.

Congrats GB! A win is a win. Don't sell yourself short. Great job.

 

[Ned]

Taper week #1 has been very kind to me. I think I just had a big time breakthrough...

Today was my last run in the teens before the marathon - 16mi. It was picture perfect conditions today. First few miles my hammies were not very happy. After about 3mi they finally loosened up and I was on cruise control from there on out. Please, oh please, let me feel like this in exactly 2 weeks.

I'm really siked looking at the splits - I just have to share. I felt like I was getting stronger at the 10mi mark. The hill at 10 is not terribly long, but is a good climb that gets my HR into the 170s. I recovered so quickly from it as if I didn't even run it. I can't believe I just ran this while being completely relaxed... 9:07/139, 9:04/143, 9:21/144, 9:12/147, 9:20/149, 9:04/154, 8:50/155, 9:06/153, 9:10/154, 9:01/158 (hill), 9:00/155, 9:03/154, 8:59/155, 9:13/157, 9:03/159, 8:59/161

Overall average = 9:06/152

One thing that I learned today is that I tense up when I get to the final few miles of a run. I need to learn how to keep that in check and let things flow. Maybe I need to picture myself running 30mi.

 

[2Young2BBald]

One thing that I learned today is that I tense up when I get to the final few miles of a run. I need to learn how to keep that in check and let things flow. Maybe I need to picture myself running 30mi.

You are on t something I'd read about in Triathlete a few years back. It was a long article, but the crux of it was to visualize the race around 40 time before actually running it. When things go wrong or just a bit off, your brain will be conditioned to react to the situation because you've been there before (your head). Hey, I found the article here. I used this going in to my 1/2 Ironman last year and have no doubt I would have DNF'd if not for the concepts in the article.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Awesome morning for a trail race. This is our 4th year doing this crusher and this was the best weather we've had. About 48 degrees at the start and not a cloud in the sky. Most leaves have left the trees, due to winds late this week, but there was still a bit of color. Due to the leaves being just dropped, the trail was covered and made for quite the tumble-fest. I stayed upright, with only a few close calls. This 5-mile piece of trail does not have one flat, straight stretch and it is littered with rocks, downed trees, root and mud. Got off to a VERY slow start due to traffic and ###holes that had on iPods and couldn't not hear "on your left". First mile was over 13-minutes, but I still think I came in around 49-minutes. Course PR is 46:12 and I think this was in reach had we not been tied up and this was the easiest I've run this yet. Broke a cardinal rule of racing and raced in a pair of trail shoes just bought yesterday. Our LRS give $25 off on a pair of shoes if the household has bought 3 pairs of shoes in a 12-month window. Going though some things this week I uncovered that we needed to get shoes in the next few weeks of one pair would fall off. So, I picked up a pair of Brooks Cascadia (and got my daughter 10% off X-Country discount too). These are funky looking, but man what a comfortable and stable difference. My ankles are sore, but no where near where they'd be had I used my old trail racers. I was an animal on the uphills too. The mix of races and hills I've run late this season had me flying up them.

Bloody Marys are a post race tradition and I took it to a whole new level this year. I grew poblano peppers and used them to infuse vodka. I wanted to try and make these where the "heat" came from the vodka and not a mix or hot sauce. Here is what all was in them:

Tomato Juice

Angostura Bloody Mary seasoning (with bitters)

Dirty Martini Olive Brine

Newman's Own Caesar Dressing

Italian Dressing

Worceshire Sauce

Mexicana Spicy Pickle

Ground Garlic Salt

Tony Cachere's Seasoning

Bacon Salt

The Vodka

They were amazing as we sat in the sun for a while. They would have been even better with a lime (which was left next to the Garmin on the kitchen table). Did all my yard work yesterday, so me and the couch and the NFL are going to spend the afternoon together.

Great races so far this weekend (WTG D) and looking forward to reading more.

ETA an ingredient to the Bloody Mary

 

[sho nuff]

Quick update from me: I killled it at Savannah yesterday. 3:26:42. Went out way too fast and held on at the end for dear life but It was incredibly satisfying to break the 3 ans a half hour mark. Around mile 22, we went through a switchback section that put us in the teeth of a 20 mph headwind on a steady incline for nearly 2 miles on the highway. Not fun. If not for that one section, where my pace slowed to a crawl, I would have broken 3:25 with ease. All in all, very satisfied with my race.

3:26 is fantastic!!!! Way to kill it. I'd love to hear a detailed RR.

Congrats to workhorse and all the other racers this weekend. I finished my 5K in 27:14 chip time. I am very happy as I had doubts that I could beat 28 minutes. As I put in my Facebook post, I finished 1st in age group. What I didn't say is that there were only 2 of us in 45-49, and I beat that guy by 5:53 . But a win is a win, and today was my first ever.

Congrats GB! A win is a win. Don't sell yourself short. Great job.

Great runs guys.

 

[prosopis]

Quick update from me: I killled it at Savannah yesterday. 3:26:42. Went out way too fast and held on at the end for dear life but It was incredibly satisfying to break the 3 ans a half hour mark. Around mile 22, we went through a switchback section that put us in the teeth of a 20 mph headwind on a steady incline for nearly 2 miles on the highway. Not fun. If not for that one section, where my pace slowed to a crawl, I would have broken 3:25 with ease. All in all, very satisfied with my race.

Very nice, Workhorse. My half marathon yesterday pretty much sucked, but it's my own fault. I wasn't horribly motivated for this race, so I was out until bar close on Friday night drinking beer and doing shots of Patron. Ran the race untrained on four hours of sleep, dehydrated, etc. Finished in 1:31:12, average 6:58/mile. I was #38/924 overall and #10/81 M30-34. Whatever.

With all the love in my heart I have to say I hate you. I am trying to make my new mantra "its all relative" but it is not working.

 

[prosopis]

Congrats to workhorse and all the other racers this weekend. I finished my 5K in 27:14 chip time. I am very happy as I had doubts that I could beat 28 minutes. As I put in my Facebook post, I finished 1st in age group. What I didn't say is that there were only 2 of us in 45-49, and I beat that guy by 5:53 . But a win is a win, and today was my first ever.

Congrats and a win is a win. I could die a happy man with that win.

 

[Ned]

One thing that I learned today is that I tense up when I get to the final few miles of a run. I need to learn how to keep that in check and let things flow. Maybe I need to picture myself running 30mi.

You are on t something I'd read about in Triathlete a few years back. It was a long article, but the crux of it was to visualize the race around 40 time before actually running it. When things go wrong or just a bit off, your brain will be conditioned to react to the situation because you've been there before (your head). Hey, I found the article here. I used this going in to my 1/2 Ironman last year and have no doubt I would have DNF'd if not for the concepts in the article.

Thanks for that article. That's such a huge eye opener for me. Very cool stuff. Mega jealous of your trail race. 2012 is going to be a focus on trail running for me.

 

[prosopis]

Congrats to Ned and 2y2bb. Sounds like fun for both of you.

It is getting cooler here and I did 9 miles in 70 something degrees. It was a nice run.

 

[Monsieur Meursault]

Bought these today. Going to give them a try.

 

[tri-man 47]

Bought these today. Going to give them a try.

Interesting! Let us know what you think of them. 2Young - I love your race, and post-race, adventures.

Darrin - dang, I'm just so proud of, and pleased for, you. From where you started years ago, you're out there running sub-9:00 minute 5Ks and placing in the top third of a (small) race. Good for you, my friend, good for you.

 

[2Young2BBald]

2Young - I love your race, and post-race, adventures.

Mark, Pete and I must have mentioned you and Edgar three dozen times as we were hanging out after. You'll have to keep us posted on when you are in MI and target a trail race in the middle of the state that we can meet up at. And/or, come in for the Trail 1/2 again. Mark committed (over drinks) on Friday night.

 

[2Young2BBald]

One thing that I learned today is that I tense up when I get to the final few miles of a run. I need to learn how to keep that in check and let things flow. Maybe I need to picture myself running 30mi.

You are on t something I'd read about in Triathlete a few years back. It was a long article, but the crux of it was to visualize the race around 40 time before actually running it. When things go wrong or just a bit off, your brain will be conditioned to react to the situation because you've been there before (your head). Hey, I found the article here. I used this going in to my 1/2 Ironman last year and have no doubt I would have DNF'd if not for the concepts in the article.

Thanks for that article. That's such a huge eye opener for me. Very cool stuff. Mega jealous of your trail race. 2012 is going to be a focus on trail running for me.

Not to get all hooey, but this article has been just about life changing. I have used it at work and with my kids. I think I was already practicing the concepts a bit, but not to the extent the articles outlines. In my first distance race, a 10-miler, I almost ran myself to the point of passing out because I had no real plan, other than a goal time. Now, when I cramp, hurt or whatever, I feel like I have been there and really feel like there is nothing I can't do. I will never be the fastest, but I sure hope to be the smartest guy out there. I attack the concept just a bit different. I like to do the race backwards in my head, figuring that the worst will happen the closer you get to the finish. I take it to insane levels, studying Google Maps, or the course maps the web site provides. I know where the water is, where the elevation changes, etc. I have had time where I have heard the voice in my head "water, right around the corner" and boom, its there.

 

[El Floppo]

nobody did NYC?

 

[Sand]

nobody did NYC?

 

[prosopis]

One thing that I learned today is that I tense up when I get to the final few miles of a run. I need to learn how to keep that in check and let things flow. Maybe I need to picture myself running 30mi.

You are on t something I'd read about in Triathlete a few years back. It was a long article, but the crux of it was to visualize the race around 40 time before actually running it. When things go wrong or just a bit off, your brain will be conditioned to react to the situation because you've been there before (your head). Hey, I found the article here. I used this going in to my 1/2 Ironman last year and have no doubt I would have DNF'd if not for the concepts in the article.

Interesting article, thanks for sharing. I will give it a shot. I certainly dont think it can hurt.I see in the comments there are links to other articles. I will check those out as well.

 

[gruecd]

nobody did NYC?

I was signed up, but I deferred. Decided that I needed some rest to let my hamstring heal up after my marathon and the Chase.

 

[Darrinll40]

One thing that I learned today is that I tense up when I get to the final few miles of a run. I need to learn how to keep that in check and let things flow. Maybe I need to picture myself running 30mi.

You are on t something I'd read about in Triathlete a few years back. It was a long article, but the crux of it was to visualize the race around 40 time before actually running it. When things go wrong or just a bit off, your brain will be conditioned to react to the situation because you've been there before (your head). Hey, I found the article here. I used this going in to my 1/2 Ironman last year and have no doubt I would have DNF'd if not for the concepts in the article.

Thanks for that article. That's such a huge eye opener for me. Very cool stuff. Mega jealous of your trail race. 2012 is going to be a focus on trail running for me.

Not to get all hooey, but this article has been just about life changing. I have used it at work and with my kids. I think I was already practicing the concepts a bit, but not to the extent the articles outlines. In my first distance race, a 10-miler, I almost ran myself to the point of passing out because I had no real plan, other than a goal time. Now, when I cramp, hurt or whatever, I feel like I have been there and really feel like there is nothing I can't do. I will never be the fastest, but I sure hope to be the smartest guy out there. I attack the concept just a bit different. I like to do the race backwards in my head, figuring that the worst will happen the closer you get to the finish. I take it to insane levels, studying Google Maps, or the course maps the web site provides. I know where the water is, where the elevation changes, etc. I have had time where I have heard the voice in my head "water, right around the corner" and boom, its there.

Thanks for the article 2Y. What it describes is exactly what I did when I lost weight, I just didn't realize it at the time. Of course when I pictured my self thinner my body was always chiseled with 8 pack abs, but I will take the result that did happen.I so badly want to run a marathon one day, but something has always held me back. Every time I decide to train for it all I see is the number 20 and myself failing for various reason. No wonder I have never actually followed through. I am going to try and retrain my brain to see myself succeeding through 20 to 26. I am also going to put up little reminders to visualize my goals many times a day.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Great racing guys. Nice pics with the BC shirts as well. I need to find mine and I will start a book out in the main page. That is if I can get some time on the computer and remember to do it. Two huge deals now a days.

As for me, I ran 6 on Friday again on the hills here in Cincy again. I love this run. The hills are a challenge, but I always feel so good after. I took Saturday off and I did 10 on Sunday in the afternoon. I am slowly getting back into the swing of things and ramping up the miles. I need to add a bit more speed work to get my averages down a bit and get ready for the Winter training cycle.

Today I was going to take off, but may just run tonight. It is mine and my son's birthday today (what a gift that was) so I may be taking the night off because of a big dinner. I just kind of feel like I need to run tonight for some reason. Thought about trying to get in a mile per year (35) but I would have to take a week to get it done. May just do 1 mile for every 7 years and do an easy 5 tonight.

Have a great day all.

 

[pmbrown_22]

One thing that I learned today is that I tense up when I get to the final few miles of a run. I need to learn how to keep that in check and let things flow. Maybe I need to picture myself running 30mi.

You are on t something I'd read about in Triathlete a few years back. It was a long article, but the crux of it was to visualize the race around 40 time before actually running it. When things go wrong or just a bit off, your brain will be conditioned to react to the situation because you've been there before (your head). Hey, I found the article here. I used this going in to my 1/2 Ironman last year and have no doubt I would have DNF'd if not for the concepts in the article.

Thanks for that article. That's such a huge eye opener for me. Very cool stuff. Mega jealous of your trail race. 2012 is going to be a focus on trail running for me.

Not to get all hooey, but this article has been just about life changing. I have used it at work and with my kids. I think I was already practicing the concepts a bit, but not to the extent the articles outlines. In my first distance race, a 10-miler, I almost ran myself to the point of passing out because I had no real plan, other than a goal time. Now, when I cramp, hurt or whatever, I feel like I have been there and really feel like there is nothing I can't do. I will never be the fastest, but I sure hope to be the smartest guy out there. I attack the concept just a bit different. I like to do the race backwards in my head, figuring that the worst will happen the closer you get to the finish. I take it to insane levels, studying Google Maps, or the course maps the web site provides. I know where the water is, where the elevation changes, etc. I have had time where I have heard the voice in my head "water, right around the corner" and boom, its there.

Thanks for the article 2Y. What it describes is exactly what I did when I lost weight, I just didn't realize it at the time. Of course when I pictured my self thinner my body was always chiseled with 8 pack abs, but I will take the result that did happen.I so badly want to run a marathon one day, but something has always held me back. Every time I decide to train for it all I see is the number 20 and myself failing for various reason. No wonder I have never actually followed through. I am going to try and retrain my brain to see myself succeeding through 20 to 26. I am also going to put up little reminders to visualize my goals many times a day.

Darrin - One thing to realize when you train for a marathon is it is a long cycle and you build up to those miles. It may seem silly to say, but it takes at least one training cycle and marathon to realize that you can do it. It is a fun adventure and will take a lot out of you, but it is so rewarding. My last cycle (over a year ago) was the Pfitz 18/70 program and I never thought that I would ever be able to do one of those programs because it was just too many miles for me. Well I decided before the cycle started that all I was going to do was take it one day at a time and just run that days miles. Plan them out a week at a time, but only look at that days run. No use worrying about 2 or 3 days ahead of time because you can't run them anyway until that day. Once you get to race day you will be ready and just go out and run the miles you need to for that day. Another thing to get over that mental hurdle is to take one of your 20 runs and make it 22 miles. Kind of takes that edge off as well.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Running nerds, I come here to ask for your wisdom. I guess I'll post my two questions and then give my story afterwards. The two questions are:

1) What should I do in the next 17 days to maximize my chances of actually running a full race?

2) What should I do long term to make sure I don't have knee problems?

OK, here's the background. Despite my username, I'm not now nor have I previously been fat. But I haven't really been able to run far or fast. I'm 38 years old. I ran track in high school but was pretty awful at it, then did a bunch of intramurals in college, then haven't really consistently exercised since then. Just for fun I ran a 10K back in 2002 and that was the last time I did any sort of road race.

In August of this year I decided I was going to try to get into better shape, as long as it didn't involve me having to wake up really early to exercise or working out late at night or anything. Scoobygang suggested I do the "Mark's Daily Apple" Paleo fitness thing, and I've been fairly good about doing it over the past 2 months or so. I've been sprinting one day a week, bodyweight exercises twice a week, and occasional runs when I can find the time (usually Saturday, Sunday and maybe one weekday). I can definitely tell that I've improved. I signed up to do my first race in nine years -- a 10K on Thanksgiving morning. At first I was hoping to break 60 minutes, then I started thinking maybe I would even be able to break 50 minutes. It's a little difficult to know for sure because I do most of my runs without any tools to know how far or fast I'm going.

OK, now to my issue. This weekend I tried to run on both Saturday and Sunday. Both days I ran for what I would guess was like 2 miles or so, then started feeling pain in my knee and ended up just walking. I had planned to try to run something like 5 miles or so since the race is coming up and I'd like some confidence I can actually run for a full 10K. I have previously done runs of over 4 miles without knee pain so there's something new going on but I don't know what. Here's some additional information that may or may not be helpful in diagnosing the problem:

1) When I started running again a few months ago I remember having similar knee pain, but then as I got a little better the issue seemed to resolve itself.

2) Before this weekend, I hadn't been for a run in probably at least a week (I had some stuff going on and then I got sick so I missed a bunch of days I would normally have run).

3) I haven't been stretching at all before or after my runs.

4) My running shoes are pretty cheap and a few years old but they don't look especially worn and they don't have a ton of miles on them because most of that time I was barely ever using them.

5) I think my running form is probably pretty awful and I suspect maybe it could be at least partially responsible but I don't know.

6) I herniated a disc back in March or April. I'm not on pain meds now and it doesn't hurt much anymore but maybe that's somehow causing me to run funny?

Sorry for being longwinded. Any help would be appreciated. What's up with those knee sleeve things I see people wear sometimes? Should I get one of those? I really don't want to have to walk my race.

 

[El Floppo]

nobody did NYC?

I was signed up, but I deferred. Decided that I needed some rest to let my hamstring heal up after my marathon and the Chase.

dude! just saw your sig and marathon pr! eta: and that I still have you on the 10k

 

[El Floppo]

OK, here's the background. Despite my username, I'm not now nor have I previously been fat.

sorry- mind blown. I'll let the actual runners answer your question.

 

[The_Man]

So many great runs! I hope the season isn't winding down - would love to see people continue to build on all these great results.

Ivan - nice 5k and nice tailgate.

Sand - Good job. You didn't tell us how fast you went out. Did you Sand it, or are you getting wiser? I would hate to see you spoil your reputation. Don't fail us on the race stalking.

Ned - Great 5k, great easy run. You are incredibly fit right now and should be carrying a ton of confidence into your race prep.

Workhorse - That is just an awesome marathon. Congrats.

Grue - don't sweat it, man. You can't crush every race.

Darrin - Podium, Baby! Great job. You earned it!

2Y2BB - great race. You make trail running sound amazing.

PMB - way to get out there and get the miles in. Happy Birthday to you and your boy! It's also my daughter's birthday today. Enjoy.

I had my third and final 20-miler of this training cycle Saturday. Tried to focus on taking it easy, and was comfortable through 12 or so but still ended up getting a little carried away toward the end, finished with an 8:30 pace for the run. To be honest, I kicked my ### a little hard. Just did a 5-mile recovery run yesterday and my legs are feeling dead. At this point, I'm really looking forward to no more long runs.

My overall mileage is low for this cycle - definitely lower than last year for my first marathon. On the other hand, training for that marathon, my longest long runs were 20, 18, and two 17s. This time, I've done 3 20-milers (average paces: 8:31, 8:19, 8:30), plus runs of 18, 17, and 16. Decided that my "official" A goal will be a 7:40 pace - to break 3:21. B goal will be to beat my 3:25:25 PR. C goal will be to run the whole way without walking.

I also learned this weekend that the 2014 Boston Marathon will be the day after Easter - which means that if I run it, my whole family can come (because the kids will be on school vacation). So that's the goal now.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Happy Monday All!

IvanK: Chilli + Bourbon = You had me at Chilli and Bourbon!! Nice 5k, especially in those winds

Sand: Great to hear that you got back on the bike; Nice 10k and even nicer that there was scenery!!

Zow: Nice Anaerobic workout. At some point you are going to likely need to do some standard runs, but a great workout regardless.

ShoNuff: I keep saying it, but git yo butt better.

IvanK: 6'2" 165 = very Tri-Manesque. Go eat a cheeseburger!

Ned: You are killing it!! 21:00 with 2 stops = Giddy'up!! Also Awesome 16. It's now time to fully trust the taper. I am a long-time proponent of visualizing victory. My first career was as a golf pro, and when I was playing my best I played more golf in my head, then on the course.

Workhorse: 3:26:42 with wind = outstanding. Not so cool that it's a minute and a half better than my PR. *******.

Grue: Drinking the night before a race has led me to some good times, both the night before and during the race. Your bad races are still pretty damn awesome.

Darrin: 1st place is 1st place. You are working as hard as anyone in here = Well-deserved!

PMB: Happy birthday to both you and your son. Too cool!

The_Man: 3rd 20 = you have plenty of miles in. A 7:40 goal is pretty sweet. You'll know on race day pretty early whether to go after goal A or B.

FatGuy: You have plenty of time to get ready for your turkey trot. Most importantly get yourself some new shoes pronto. If you don't have a good local running store, go here and learn precisely what type of shoe you should be purchasing. Knee pain can also be caused by cooler and/or wetter weather.

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My update:

I had a great weekend, and one decent workout. Friday night I took my Secretary out for drinks, which somehow ended up with me feeling pretty close to closing the deal with 2 cougars at a two-step dance club before my neighbor's (also best friend's) wife called me at 1:10 am in the morning, asking me to come over. Her alarm went in her house went off, and the cops came to check it out. Her husband, my friend, was out of town hunting and she was shook up, and wanted company. I thus, left the cougars, and went to assist my buddy, by being with his wife in the middle of the night while he was out of town I slept in the guest room, and received a "thanks for being with my wife for me" text from my friend the next morning.

Saturday was my daughter's birthday which included soccer, lunch, more soccer, then her birthday party = no workout.

Sunday I wanted to surpass the 30 mile barrier on my bike. Great day for it, as the winds were a steady 25 mph with some awful gusts. My legs were fresh with 2 off days in a row. I didn't really want to push it, but did at times. When I was with the wind I was flying, when into it, I was lucky to keep moving forward. I had two miles in which I averaged approx. 30 mph with my HR being below 160; and I had 2 other miles that I barely averaged 15 mph and my HR was close to 180 Overall I averaged 20.1 mph over the 31.5 miles completed. I'm starting to get a pretty good base, to enable me to do some interval work, and to vary my training. Losing my extra 10 pounds isn't likely going to happen soon, so I'm looking at it as training with weights on for now; so that when I lose it in the Spring I'll be flying (justification for me to not have to stop eating and drinking whatever I want!).

 

[Sand]

Running nerds, I come here to ask for your wisdom. I guess I'll post my two questions and then give my story afterwards. The two questions are:

1) What should I do in the next 17 days to maximize my chances of actually running a full race?

2) What should I do long term to make sure I don't have knee problems?

I think this all stems from your political views. Seriously, go get a good pair of shoes. Go to a good running store, have them look at your stride, and get something that feels good in the amount of support you need. Second, what part of the knee hurts? That makes a big difference as to what the problem may be.

Sand - Good job. You didn't tell us how fast you went out. Did you Sand it, or are you getting wiser? I would hate to see you spoil your reputation. Don't fail us on the race stalking.

6:50 first mile. I paced really well, just :02/mile too slow for the time I was hoping for. Very happy with how I ran the race. :10/mile better would have put me on the podium - bummer.Workhorse - absolutely spectacular race. Well deserved.

2Y - I'm jealous. That looked like a blast of a race.

Darrin - You keep on improving!

Gru - there was beer at the end, right?

BTW, it looks like Dexter took down Turkish in the Iceman Cometh deathmatch by about 2 minutes. I'm sure Turkish is pushing for 3 out of 5 now. I so want to do that race. Maybe next year.

I'm sure I'm missing folks - busy weekend! Sadly it looks like my friend doing the 100 mile run race was a DNF.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Running nerds, I come here to ask for your wisdom. I guess I'll post my two questions and then give my story afterwards. The two questions are:

1) What should I do in the next 17 days to maximize my chances of actually running a full race?

2) What should I do long term to make sure I don't have knee problems?

I think this all stems from your political views. Seriously, go get a good pair of shoes. Go to a good running store, have them look at your stride, and get something that feels good in the amount of support you need. Second, what part of the knee hurts? That makes a big difference as to what the problem may be.

Thanks Sand and pigskin. It sort of feels like shooting pain on the left side of the left knee I think. Hard to remember exactly now that I'm sitting at my desk.Anybody in here live in the Maryland suburbs of DC? I just googled for a good running store and this place seems to be a good option but I'd take any suggestions. Will I get blisters if I get a new pair of shoes so close to my race?

 

[gruecd]

nobody did NYC?

I was signed up, but I deferred. Decided that I needed some rest to let my hamstring heal up after my marathon and the Chase.

dude! just saw your sig and marathon pr! eta: and that I still have you on the 10k

Thanks. And I'll let you have that distinction on the 10K. My hatred for that distance is even worse than my well-documented hatred for the 5K!

 

[gruecd]

Anybody in here live in the Maryland suburbs of DC? I just googled for a good running store and this place seems to be a good option but I'd take any suggestions. Will I get blisters if I get a new pair of shoes so close to my race?

Pretty sure The_Man is in that general area, and I've got a good runner friend who lives there, too. I'll check with her. And no, you'll be fine with a new pair of shoes. You really don't need to break them in anymore. They're pretty much ready to go right out of the box.

 

[gruecd]

Anybody in here live in the Maryland suburbs of DC? I just googled for a good running store and this place seems to be a good option but I'd take any suggestions. Will I get blisters if I get a new pair of shoes so close to my race?

Pretty sure The_Man is in that general area, and I've got a good runner friend who lives there, too. I'll check with her. And no, you'll be fine with a new pair of shoes. You really don't need to break them in anymore. They're pretty much ready to go right out of the box.

Friend recommends Falls Road Running in Baltimore, and she definitely knows what she's talking about.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Anybody in here live in the Maryland suburbs of DC? I just googled for a good running store and this place seems to be a good option but I'd take any suggestions. Will I get blisters if I get a new pair of shoes so close to my race?

Pretty sure The_Man is in that general area, and I've got a good runner friend who lives there, too. I'll check with her. And no, you'll be fine with a new pair of shoes. You really don't need to break them in anymore. They're pretty much ready to go right out of the box.

Thanks. So are you guys thinking if I get the right new shoes the knee pain will just disappear or will it be like a gradual thing? Once I get the new shoes am I OK to attempt another 5+ mile run? I'll probably buy the new shoes on Wednesday.

 

[gruecd]

Friend recommends Falls Road Running in Baltimore, and she definitely knows what she's talking about.

She runs for Falls Road Running, but if that's too far away, she said that their rival store, Potomac River Running, has a store in Rockville and is good, too.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Anybody in here live in the Maryland suburbs of DC? I just googled for a good running store and this place seems to be a good option but I'd take any suggestions. Will I get blisters if I get a new pair of shoes so close to my race?

Pretty sure The_Man is in that general area, and I've got a good runner friend who lives there, too. I'll check with her. And no, you'll be fine with a new pair of shoes. You really don't need to break them in anymore. They're pretty much ready to go right out of the box.

Friend recommends Falls Road Running in Baltimore, and she definitely knows what she's talking about.

Thanks.

 

[gruecd]

Gru - there was beer at the end, right?

Mmmmmm hmmmmm. And on the bus on the way back, too.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Friend recommends Falls Road Running in Baltimore, and she definitely knows what she's talking about.

She runs for Falls Road Running, but if that's too far away, she said that their rival store, Potomac River Running, has a store in Rockville and is good, too.

Oh, this is much better. Only like 15 minutes from my house. This is where I'll go.

 

[BobbyLayne]

nobody did NYC?

MILF in our preschool ran yesterday - finished around 4:42 IIRC. Was very cool to track her on the iPhone (there's an app). 40 y.o., mother of two, I would guess around 5'4" - 100 lbs. Third marathon in a year (NYC x2, Boston last spring).So...starting from scratch, how long would it take to train for a marathon? Is 2012 doable? Or would 2013 be more realistic? I'm 49 y.o., average height/weight/build, work out 3-4 times per week (30-40 minutes cardio, 20-30 light lifting). I don't run at all. 25-30 years ago I used to run 30-40 miles per week, usually in 4-8 mile increments.

 

[gruecd]

Thanks Sand and pigskin. It sort of feels like shooting pain on the left side of the left knee I think. Hard to remember exactly now that I'm sitting at my desk.

Shooting pain on the lateral side of the knee. I'm not a doctor, but I'm gonna go ahead and guess it's your I-T Band. Try some of these stretches, and when you go buy your new shoes, tell them you need a foam roller, too, and
the crap out of it.

 

[ThreeThousand]

It's been a while since I've poked my head in here, so I figured I'd drop in and give an update. My end of season back 2 back HIMs went pretty well, did the Augusta 70.3 (in about 5:20) and the Anderson Rev3 70.3 (in about 5:40) two weeks apart, and I spent this past weekend down in Panama City Beach volunterring at Ironman Florida. Signed up for next year's race yesterday

Looks like everyone in here is rocking out - saw a couple of race PRs lately, and some first-time marathons as well.

 

[gruecd]

So...starting from scratch, how long would it take to train for a marathon? Is 2012 doable? Or would 2013 be more realistic? I'm 49 y.o., average height/weight/build, work out 3-4 times per week (30-40 minutes cardio, 20-30 light lifting). I don't run at all. 25-30 years ago I used to run 30-40 miles per week, usually in 4-8 mile increments.

2012 is definitely do-able. Hal Higdon's "Novice 1" 18-week program has you running 4 days/week plus one day of cross-training.

 

[Ned]

Sunday I wanted to surpass the 30 mile barrier on my bike. Great day for it, as the winds were a steady 25 mph with some awful gusts. My legs were fresh with 2 off days in a row. I didn't really want to push it, but did at times. When I was with the wind I was flying, when into it, I was lucky to keep moving forward. I had two miles in which I averaged approx. 30 mph with my HR being below 160; and I had 2 other miles that I barely averaged 15 mph and my HR was close to 180 Overall I averaged 20.1 mph over the 31.5 miles completed. I'm starting to get a pretty good base, to enable me to do some interval work, and to vary my training. Losing my extra 10 pounds isn't likely going to happen soon, so I'm looking at it as training with weights on for now; so that when I lose it in the Spring I'll be flying (justification for me to not have to stop eating and drinking whatever I want!).

How's the groin/hip holding up? I wish I could pretend to understand just how good those stats are, but you've been working really hard lately. The way you've completely turned the page in the latest chapter of your life is pretty inspiring .

 

[The_Man]

Friend recommends Falls Road Running in Baltimore, and she definitely knows what she's talking about.

She runs for Falls Road Running, but if that's too far away, she said that their rival store, Potomac River Running, has a store in Rockville and is good, too.

I love me my Falls Road Running Store, though it's definitely too far for DC area people. Though the quality of the female staff makes it worth the trip - as anyone who has FB stalked Grue's friends can attest.