Sorry about the swimming hijacks. This just seemed to be a good place to ask rather than starting a new thread.Good to see a few running updates interspersed among all the swimming advice....
I fret a bit about the hijacks, too, but it seems to make more sense to keep it all here. I'm sure our running-focused buddies will be patient with, and tolerant of, us. Speaking of swimmingSorry about the swimming hijacks. This just seemed to be a good place to ask rather than starting a new thread.Good to see a few running updates interspersed among all the swimming advice....
I'm the opposite...takes me a good mile to get my legs back, if they ever come back.Great news on the weight training, it may have helped me beat back this knee injury.Great Brick BnB!! Transitioning from the bike to the run is one of the wildest feelings in the world. The more bricks you have, the less "woggly" your legs will feel, but for me, it is still a funky feeling. The toughest part is to keep your first mile at pace, because your legs just want to take off at the cadence you were cycling. Some of my fastest runs have come after long bike rides, because your legs are ready for take-off right away. Triathlon Magazine, and Runner's World have both gone the route of pushing weight training (as part of a daily routine) over stretching (still doing, but only minimally). It seems to be the best method to keep from being injured.First bric under my belt. 20 mi bike at 20.2 followed by 5K run at 28m15s which included stopping to stretch my cramping calves. One thing I've added back to my routine is weight training on the legs. Specifically calve raises, leg curls, leg ext. Been doing this everytime I go to the gym and it seems to be helping keep the aches and pains at bay.Saturday is my next ride. Not sure of the distance as I may have a "date" which means I'll drop back from 100 mi to 65 mi. Waiting for confirmation there. I'm not going to taper and will just treat it as a training ride. I'm 90% sure I'm going to attempt the Nightmare 200 next month. Any NE pedalers want to join me?
FixedJust got back from a few adult recovery drinks with a tall red-head who did wonders for the middle leg.
Thanks. Good thing I had no ability to sleep last night and no ability to wake up this morning to go running. I suck. I will try this tomorow. Maybe shorter distances are the way to go to start. Thanks.I'd say start with 400s or even 200s. Get the feel of moving faster and developing a longer, full stride. The first couple, at whatever pace, should be comfortable. The cumulative effect will start to add up. Give yourself a rest of either (a) a minute between reps, or (b) the equivalent time of the rep. You can either walk between reps or do a light jog. You can use this calculator to get a sense of the pacing to use.I am slow. I want to get faster. Will be doing some sprint work tomorrow at the local track (which is unlocked in my safe community unlike wherever furley lives in Wisconsin). What pace should I aim for if I am running 800s? Should I even do 800s or should I just go 400s? TIA. My pace seems to be around 10:00 mile. I am guessing a 5:00 800 is too slow. I was thinking 2:30 - 3:00.
Yes. Please elaborate on the red head and the "leg" fixing.FixedJust got back from a few adult recovery drinks with a tall red-head who did wonders for the middle leg.
mile 1 - 11:32mile 2 - 13:06running 25 minutes straight tonite![]()
bested my previous mile effort by 45 seconds. really slowed down in the 2nd half. part of the jog was uphill because i turned a corner i normally don't turn.. gradual downhill.. but to turn back to my route again is a fairly steep(ish) hill. oof.Keep up the great work furley. Before you know it you'll be in great shape....or dead from a heart attack.mile 1 - 11:32mile 2 - 13:06running 25 minutes straight tonite![]()
bested my previous mile effort by 45 seconds. really slowed down in the 2nd half. part of the jog was uphill because i turned a corner i normally don't turn.. gradual downhill.. but to turn back to my route again is a fairly steep(ish) hill. oof.
i'm married now. either way is a win/win.Keep up the great work furley. Before you know it you'll be in great shape....or dead from a heart attack.mile 1 - 11:32mile 2 - 13:06running 25 minutes straight tonite![]()
bested my previous mile effort by 45 seconds. really slowed down in the 2nd half. part of the jog was uphill because i turned a corner i normally don't turn.. gradual downhill.. but to turn back to my route again is a fairly steep(ish) hill. oof.

you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts.![]()
not yetand i have an iPod. just don't know how to use it yet.you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts.![]()

He's too busy counting his steps to listen to music!you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts.![]()

Rock Lonemilk said:He's too busy counting his steps to listen to music!wraith5 said:you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.mr. furley said:i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts.![]()
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thankfully i've cut that out of the routine. but i am running out of things to talk to myself about. 
That's exactly why I finally got an iPod...I just got tired of myself.thankfully i've cut that out of the routine. but i am running out of things to talk to myself about.![]()
That's exactly why I finally got an iPod...I just got tired of myself.thankfully i've cut that out of the routine. but i am running out of things to talk to myself about.![]()
I never go running without my Creative Zen. It makes the time go by much faster.Nice work Furley.Just rolled in from a 100 mile ride. Finished in 5:06 or 19.6 mph with the clock on at the rest stops. Rolling terrian, but flat relative to my other rides. Caught a huge break with the temps as it was only 80 degrees and sunny, but we did have a 5-10 mph wind. Probably rode 25 mi solo, pulled another guy for 10 mi, lead the pack for 5 mi, and rode in a group for the rest.I went into this ride on one day's rest and very sore, I imagine tomorrow the legs will be making life misirable. I have to work to this afternoon and tomorrow morning, but then it's off to the lake and it's on like donkey kong. Back at it on Tuesday.Wow those triathletes are just stud dogs. I watched some guys do 5 mile plus pulls like it was an easy training ride.Oh, I fell in love today. She was about 5'4" and 110. Stunning beautiful and body so perfect that you start thinking very bad thoughts. Sure would be nice if rides would consist of more gals like this rather than resembling a sausage factory. She stroked the pedals hard and fast, obviously knows a thing or two about turn over. Well excuse me while I head to the shower...

Nah, just did a group ride. My event is last week of august. Doing another group ride tomorrow. I hope I don't die.Hey coldeus, I thought you had a century today???Check back later, I've got some questions about vo2 testing and the like. Need to grab the brochere and call for pricing.
An excellent choice - I bought the same shoe yesterday to replace my asics 2120 (368 miles).got my gait analyzed, tested out some different shoes and settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's. for "mid-to-moderate pronators".
You ran 5 miles more than I did yesterday, and it only took you 21 minutes longer.Nice morning for a run. Sunny skies, temps in the low 60s, and a light breeze from the east.
Was out until almost 1:30 last night having a few "pops" with a friend, but I still managed to drag my butt out of bed at 7 AM to run. Did my 11-miler in 1:28:43, for a good, relaxed 8:04 pace.
As much as I like to run, it never ceases to amaze me how good it feels to scratch that long run off the weekend to-do list. Have a good one, everybody!
I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out....settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
If you really want to get the maximum benefit from your HR data, I'd recommend skipping the formulas and finding your true max HR as well as your resting HR. You'll need both in order to calculate your percentages for the "zones." Check out the book Heart Monitor Training for the Compleat Idiot by John L. Parker, Jr.using some crazy formula I just found on wiki
For males: 210 - 1/2 your age - 5% of total body weight (in pounds) + 4 = HRmax
For females: 210 - 1/2 your age - 5% of total body weight (in pounds) + 0 = HRmax
that puts my HRmax at 173
will do. i don't get to pick them up til saturday though. had to get them ordered as my size was out of stock. but just in testing them i felt a tremendous difference. anything had to be an upgrade over the shoes i'm in now.I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out....settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
Sounds like you're becoming part of the collective.will do. i don't get to pick them up til saturday though. had to get them ordered as my size was out of stock. but just in testing them i felt a tremendous difference. anything had to be an upgrade over the shoes i'm in now.I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out....settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
Sounds like you're becoming part of the collective.will do. i don't get to pick them up til saturday though. had to get them ordered as my size was out of stock. but just in testing them i felt a tremendous difference. anything had to be an upgrade over the shoes i'm in now.I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out....settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
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This baby thing... I don't know.
... For college and HS soccer, we had to do sub 12:00 two miles (they called it the Cooper Test) and I had it at just below 11:00 one year... but no way was that translating into a third sub-5:30 mile. I think I would've been somewhere around 19:00, but it's easy to say something like that now.But a cute girl did pass me during my 8m walk, and I tailed along behind her for a mile at 7:30 pace
Every runner's dream....Found my pace picking up with each of the next five miles until Mile 8-9 when I tailed a cute young runner who had passed me at my previous walk... I caught up to her and winked- she asked me my name chatted a little and mentioned she needed help with her HR monitor strap. She lived right off the running course and asked me to come up, which I did. She slowly unraveled her drenched tank top to reveal two perfect mounds of luscious...

Alan Webb broke one of America's most venerated sports records when he scorched a 3:46.91 mile in a low-key meet in Brasschaat, Belgium tonight (21), breaking Steve Scott's 25-year-old record of 3:47.69 set in Oslo in 1982.
Alan Webb broke one of America's most venerated sports records when he scorched a 3:46.91 mile in a low-key meet in Brasschaat, Belgium tonight (21), breaking Steve Scott's 25-year-old record of 3:47.69 set in Oslo in 1982.
good lawdYeah, but it's still about 2 months away. Hoping to break 1:30 for the first time ever (current PR is 1:32:41), which would put me in the top 2-3% of finishers for this particular race. We'll see how it goes.Gruecd- sounds like you're back in the thick of things with those 6s splits. I think I recall you having a 1/2 marathon coming up, no?
For those scoring at home that's 15.8 miles per hour.Alan Webb broke one of America's most venerated sports records when he scorched a 3:46.91 mile in a low-key meet in Brasschaat, Belgium tonight (21), breaking Steve Scott's 25-year-old record of 3:47.69 set in Oslo in 1982.good lawd
Caught a little bit of the Tour de Farce on TV this weekend, and I could've sworn that I heard one of the cyclists say something about crashing at 65 km/hour (about 40 mph).Is that right?!For those scoring at home that's 15.8 miles per hour.