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Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

Good to see a few running updates interspersed among all the swimming advice....
Sorry about the swimming hijacks. This just seemed to be a good place to ask rather than starting a new thread.
I fret a bit about the hijacks, too, but it seems to make more sense to keep it all here. I'm sure our running-focused buddies will be patient with, and tolerant of, us. Speaking of swimming :thumbdown: I had a great 3,000 yard workout this morning with a straight-through 2,500 yards at the heart of it (and no real dropoff on the 1:00/lap pace). Three more hard training days before the taper begins.

I couldn't swim yesterday, so I got in 4 miles running with a strong 3 miles at a 7:06/mile pace - encouraging, since I haven't been doing any speed work.

gruecd, very good point about keeping easy runs easy. The general rule is to only have two "breakout" sessions per week - the other workouts should be easy, maintenance routines.

 
First bric under my belt. 20 mi bike at 20.2 followed by 5K run at 28m15s which included stopping to stretch my cramping calves. One thing I've added back to my routine is weight training on the legs. Specifically calve raises, leg curls, leg ext. Been doing this everytime I go to the gym and it seems to be helping keep the aches and pains at bay.Saturday is my next ride. Not sure of the distance as I may have a "date" which means I'll drop back from 100 mi to 65 mi. Waiting for confirmation there. I'm not going to taper and will just treat it as a training ride. I'm 90% sure I'm going to attempt the Nightmare 200 next month. Any NE pedalers want to join me?
Great Brick BnB!! Transitioning from the bike to the run is one of the wildest feelings in the world. The more bricks you have, the less "woggly" your legs will feel, but for me, it is still a funky feeling. The toughest part is to keep your first mile at pace, because your legs just want to take off at the cadence you were cycling. Some of my fastest runs have come after long bike rides, because your legs are ready for take-off right away. Triathlon Magazine, and Runner's World have both gone the route of pushing weight training (as part of a daily routine) over stretching (still doing, but only minimally). It seems to be the best method to keep from being injured.
I'm the opposite...takes me a good mile to get my legs back, if they ever come back.Great news on the weight training, it may have helped me beat back this knee injury.
 
Update...............

Got dumped via e-mail this morning.

Cranked out a 40 mi bike with my cute training partner...who's unfortunately married.

Legs are in pain now.

Back-up female riding partner seems to be standing me up this Saturday so I'll be riding 100 rather than 60 on Saturday.

Just got back from a few adult recovery drinks with a tall red-head who did wonders for the legs.

 
I am slow. I want to get faster. Will be doing some sprint work tomorrow at the local track (which is unlocked in my safe community unlike wherever furley lives in Wisconsin). What pace should I aim for if I am running 800s? Should I even do 800s or should I just go 400s? TIA. My pace seems to be around 10:00 mile. I am guessing a 5:00 800 is too slow :shrug: . I was thinking 2:30 - 3:00.
I'd say start with 400s or even 200s. Get the feel of moving faster and developing a longer, full stride. The first couple, at whatever pace, should be comfortable. The cumulative effect will start to add up. Give yourself a rest of either (a) a minute between reps, or (b) the equivalent time of the rep. You can either walk between reps or do a light jog. You can use this calculator to get a sense of the pacing to use.
Thanks. Good thing I had no ability to sleep last night and no ability to wake up this morning to go running. I suck. I will try this tomorow. Maybe shorter distances are the way to go to start. Thanks.
 
running 25 minutes straight tonite :(

it's taking me longer and longer in to the run to start sucking wind. i'm up to around 10 minutes before i begin to breathe deeply or through my mouth. after a few minutes of that everything seems to level out and i just breathe heavily for the last few hundred yards.

 
running 25 minutes straight tonite :lmao:
mile 1 - 11:32mile 2 - 13:06 :lmao:bested my previous mile effort by 45 seconds. really slowed down in the 2nd half. part of the jog was uphill because i turned a corner i normally don't turn.. gradual downhill.. but to turn back to my route again is a fairly steep(ish) hill. oof.
 
running 25 minutes straight tonite :shrug:
mile 1 - 11:32mile 2 - 13:06 :own3d:bested my previous mile effort by 45 seconds. really slowed down in the 2nd half. part of the jog was uphill because i turned a corner i normally don't turn.. gradual downhill.. but to turn back to my route again is a fairly steep(ish) hill. oof.
Keep up the great work furley. Before you know it you'll be in great shape....or dead from a heart attack.
 
running 25 minutes straight tonite :banned:
mile 1 - 11:32mile 2 - 13:06 :banned:bested my previous mile effort by 45 seconds. really slowed down in the 2nd half. part of the jog was uphill because i turned a corner i normally don't turn.. gradual downhill.. but to turn back to my route again is a fairly steep(ish) hill. oof.
Keep up the great work furley. Before you know it you'll be in great shape....or dead from a heart attack.
i'm married now. either way is a win/win. :hifive:
 
i realized today that i'm a whiny #####

kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"

that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts. :hifive:

 
i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts. :2cents:
you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.
 
i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts. :2cents:
you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.
not yetand i have an iPod. just don't know how to use it yet. :lmao:
 
i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts. :own3d:
you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.
He's too busy counting his steps to listen to music! :rolleyes:
 
Nice morning for a run. Sunny skies, temps in the low 60s, and a light breeze from the east.

Was out until almost 1:30 last night having a few "pops" with a friend, but I still managed to drag my butt out of bed at 7 AM to run. Did my 11-miler in 1:28:43, for a good, relaxed 8:04 pace.

As much as I like to run, it never ceases to amaze me how good it feels to scratch that long run off the weekend to-do list. Have a good one, everybody!

 
Rock Lonemilk said:
wraith5 said:
mr. furley said:
i realized today that i'm a whiny #####kept thinking to myself "damn, another (X number) of minutes" or "damn, my legs hurt" or "my lungs are burning"that's just unacceptable. i'm going to punch myself in the jaw next time i have such thoughts. ;)
you're doing a great job, Furley. do you listen to music when you run? Sometimes I find that keeps my mind off of every single step.
He's too busy counting his steps to listen to music! :)
:goodposting:thankfully i've cut that out of the routine. but i am running out of things to talk to myself about. :lol:
 
Update.... (a little long, cliff notes in bold)

Ran my 8K this morning.

My sister-in-law informed me on Friday that we would be running up a big hill during the race, and since 5 miles is about my limit right now I was not too sure of myself starting the race. I ran this race with my brother-in-law and wife. We all ran together for about the first 2.5 miles and then my wife slowed down a little and it was just the BIL and I for the next mile.

I knew the hill was approaching because we ran down a good sized hill during the first 2 miles. BIL took a short walk at about 3.5 when we were a 200 yards from the first hill. The hill was split into 2 big parts. I ran the first hill and was pretty tired when I turned the corner and saw the second (much bigger) hill in the near future I instantly got 200X more tired when I saw that second hill and started walking. After about 15 steps they guy I just passed caught up to me and asked if I would run the second hill with him. That was AWESOME. We ran it together. He made it 2/3 of the way and it was what I needed to get up to the top. I ended up walking about 25 paces or so at the top of that last hill to get some air, but then I was back to running. When I got to the top of the hill we went back to a spot where we ran on the way out so I had a good idea how much further I had. (no markers on the course)

I knew I could make it the rest of the way back to the finish, but it was pretty tough. The hills must have taken more out of me than I thought. There was a group of 2 guys a 1.5 blocks ahead of me with about 10 blocks to go so I just focused on them and tried to keep up with, or catch them. The fans along the last quater mile were the biggest thing that kept me running.

I could not believe when I heard the guy reading times. From a block away I heard 44:35. I was thinking I would finish around 50, but made it in at 45:21 right behind the 2 guys I was chasing down.

I was very happy with that. I wanted to run the whole thing without walking, but the hills got the best of me. I am still pretty happy with the effort. Wife finished at 49:?? so she was quite happy also. She had never run more than 4 miles before. All in all a great event.

 
Just rolled in from a 100 mile ride. Finished in 5:06 or 19.6 mph with the clock on at the rest stops. Rolling terrian, but flat relative to my other rides. Caught a huge break with the temps as it was only 80 degrees and sunny, but we did have a 5-10 mph wind. Probably rode 25 mi solo, pulled another guy for 10 mi, lead the pack for 5 mi, and rode in a group for the rest.

I went into this ride on one day's rest and very sore, I imagine tomorrow the legs will be making life misirable. I have to work to this afternoon and tomorrow morning, but then it's off to the lake and it's on like donkey kong. Back at it on Tuesday.

Wow those triathletes are just stud dogs. I watched some guys do 5 mile plus pulls like it was an easy training ride.

Oh, I fell in love today. She was about 5'4" and 110. Stunning beautiful and body so perfect that you start thinking very bad thoughts. Sure would be nice if rides would consist of more gals like this rather than resembling a sausage factory. She stroked the pedals hard and fast, obviously knows a thing or two about turn over. Well excuse me while I head to the shower...

 
Just rolled in from a 100 mile ride. Finished in 5:06 or 19.6 mph with the clock on at the rest stops. Rolling terrian, but flat relative to my other rides. Caught a huge break with the temps as it was only 80 degrees and sunny, but we did have a 5-10 mph wind. Probably rode 25 mi solo, pulled another guy for 10 mi, lead the pack for 5 mi, and rode in a group for the rest.I went into this ride on one day's rest and very sore, I imagine tomorrow the legs will be making life misirable. I have to work to this afternoon and tomorrow morning, but then it's off to the lake and it's on like donkey kong. Back at it on Tuesday.Wow those triathletes are just stud dogs. I watched some guys do 5 mile plus pulls like it was an easy training ride.Oh, I fell in love today. She was about 5'4" and 110. Stunning beautiful and body so perfect that you start thinking very bad thoughts. Sure would be nice if rides would consist of more gals like this rather than resembling a sausage factory. She stroked the pedals hard and fast, obviously knows a thing or two about turn over. Well excuse me while I head to the shower...
:lol: :sarcasm: :lmao:
 
Hey coldeus, I thought you had a century today???

Check back later, I've got some questions about vo2 testing and the like. Need to grab the brochere and call for pricing.

 
Good events, meeka and BnB (did you get the girl's race number on the chance that there will be race pics?)! And good progress, furley! (and as always, good running, gruecd!)

I did an hour bike workout yesterday morning and then got down to the lakefront in the afternoon for a 30 minute swim in Lake Michigan (my last of three). NE winds created very choppy conditions with one to two foot swells, so it was a very tough swim - ya think you're getting a breath of air, and you only suck water, or you think you're turning your head back into the water, and your face slaps down into a trough. Good times, good times. This morning was a 5 hour bike ride similar to last weekend's. One more day, and run workout, until the taper.

 
Thoughts on this...

New Leaf Active Metabolic Assessment

LBS assesses your metobolic profile and develops a custom fitness and training program. Supposedly this 15 minute vo2 assessment can determine peak vo2, aerobic base, anaerobic threshold, optimal heart rate training zone, calorie burn rate during exercise and at rest, caloric requirements.

 
Hey coldeus, I thought you had a century today???Check back later, I've got some questions about vo2 testing and the like. Need to grab the brochere and call for pricing.
Nah, just did a group ride. My event is last week of august. Doing another group ride tomorrow. I hope I don't die.
 
popped in to the shoe store today

got my gait analyzed, tested out some different shoes and settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's. for "mid-to-moderate pronators".

on video it looked like i was rolling my foot inward and putting a lot of pressure on the pad of my big toe. never really noticed it until i got on the treadmill and watched myself run.

tested some ASICS, some Nike's and the Brooks. the Brooks were far and away the most comfortable.. made it feel like i was running with springs in my feet instead of the sledgehammer pounding feeling i was getting before.

 
three weeks of marathon training under my belt today... 10 miler yesterday which I did in 1:25 which I was really happy with since it is a very hilly run.

I borrowed a heart rate monitor which was pretty cool and might be something I invest in.

heart rate was between 150 and 154 during most of the run but gets upto 163 on steep hills.

was told that my heart rate is a bit high

 
using some crazy formula I just found on wiki

For males: 210 - 1/2 your age - 5% of total body weight (in pounds) + 4 = HRmax

For females: 210 - 1/2 your age - 5% of total body weight (in pounds) + 0 = HRmax

that puts my HRmax at 173

 
Last hard workout today before my race in two weeks. 8 miles of running - featured three 2-mile repeats at 14:00/set (7:00/mile). I'm totally wiped ...but I'm totally done with hard training for a month. Taper down, race, rest. :goodposting:

 
Man, I was lazy this week. But I do feel nice and relaxed, and looking forward to getting back to my regular training schedule.

Mon - 7.06 miles

Tues - 5.8 miles Ran with SteveUK

Sat - 5.14 miles

Sun - no run

18 miles even this week, averaged 9:58 minutes per mile.

Everyone who posted a race report this weekend sounds like they had a great time. Still 8 weeks until my next race.

Everyone have a fantastic week.

 
Nice morning for a run. Sunny skies, temps in the low 60s, and a light breeze from the east.

Was out until almost 1:30 last night having a few "pops" with a friend, but I still managed to drag my butt out of bed at 7 AM to run. Did my 11-miler in 1:28:43, for a good, relaxed 8:04 pace.

As much as I like to run, it never ceases to amaze me how good it feels to scratch that long run off the weekend to-do list. Have a good one, everybody!
You ran 5 miles more than I did yesterday, and it only took you 21 minutes longer. :confused:
...settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out.
using some crazy formula I just found on wiki

For males: 210 - 1/2 your age - 5% of total body weight (in pounds) + 4 = HRmax

For females: 210 - 1/2 your age - 5% of total body weight (in pounds) + 0 = HRmax

that puts my HRmax at 173
If you really want to get the maximum benefit from your HR data, I'd recommend skipping the formulas and finding your true max HR as well as your resting HR. You'll need both in order to calculate your percentages for the "zones." Check out the book Heart Monitor Training for the Compleat Idiot by John L. Parker, Jr.

 
...settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out.
will do. i don't get to pick them up til saturday though. had to get them ordered as my size was out of stock. but just in testing them i felt a tremendous difference. anything had to be an upgrade over the shoes i'm in now.
 
All this heart rate talk had me grab my HRM. Got that sucker up to 181 on the "dolly partons" just hammering away. That's as much as I could do. Spent most of the time in the high 150s.

 
...settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out.
will do. i don't get to pick them up til saturday though. had to get them ordered as my size was out of stock. but just in testing them i felt a tremendous difference. anything had to be an upgrade over the shoes i'm in now.
Sounds like you're becoming part of the collective.
 
...settled on the Brooks Adrenaline's.
I've been running in those same shoes since about May 1 and they've been pretty good to me. Please report back and let us know how they are working out.
will do. i don't get to pick them up til saturday though. had to get them ordered as my size was out of stock. but just in testing them i felt a tremendous difference. anything had to be an upgrade over the shoes i'm in now.
Sounds like you're becoming part of the collective.
:confused: furley commits
 
Recently I have come to the realizations that:

I am an idiot, do stupid things to my body and think I am younger than I am.

38 year olds should not play adult kickball if they plan on running long distances and do the proper training. And, pulling butt muscle really hurts and takes forever to heal.

I can’t sit still and have run sore way too much.

5K & 10K relative success does not mean you should jump to longer distances. I am still going to run the 10 miler and the ½ this fall, but I have scrapped ideas of ripping of great times. Honestly, I have no idea what great times are; I’ve never run these distances before. My heart and lungs want to run a sub 90 minute 10 miler and beat two hours on the half, but from my waist down my body has far different plans. I have no idea how these are going to go, but think I was setting myself up for failure.

Early “victories” in extending the length of training runs does not mean it will last.

I like riding my bike as a cross training option and just wish the guys with nice equipment would stay away from me when I am riding my piece of crap mountain bike (in my imaginary world I’m moving fast).

I find it way to important to talk about how fast I ran this race or the other or even my normal runs. I wish I could just enjoy the scenery. My wife wanted to go back and look up as many of the races that we’ve run so we could have the dates and times. She wanted them for the memories, but all I could look at was the times.

Finally, I really love to run and need to change how I think if I want this to be something I can do in to my 60s (BTW, when I looked at on of my 5K results, I finished in 22:07 which looked great until I saw that a 61 year old woman finished just ahead on me). I might feel different after the upcoming races, but for now I am a bit disappointed that this training isn’t resulting in what I thought it would be. Granted, there have been good results, like weighing the same as I did when I played HS baseball in the mid 80s. But, I think after all this work, I am not going to be happy with the times I post and can’t find a way to just be pleased that I finished (if I even do).

 
Forgive me, my brothers... it's been two weeks since my last confession.

Hi!

Wait... did I already say 'hi'? Lack of sleep is completely ####### with my reality. :unsure: This baby thing... I don't know.

I didn't really read everything, but some general thoughts:

Furley- GREAT work and congrats on the nuptials! I think I just read that you ran two miles without walking? Excellent stuff that I think even you would've doubted just a few weeks back. Oh- I'm a Brooks wearer too- I think I have the Adrenalin as well.

Tri-Man- Was there a race this weekend? An Oly or Sprint...? Can't wait to hear about it. Or is it you that's tapering for the 1/2... did you print up your "I'm running/riding this slow because I'm tapering" t-shirt?

BnB- Bricks! Nice- another one pulled to the dark side of tris... fwiw- as was mentioned, the more you do, the more comfortable the running will be when you get out of transition. I've mentioned this a zillion times in other tri-threads, but its a real help to shorten your strides on the run and get a higher cadence going (ala cycling); much less strain on the legs and you'll find yourself moving out of transition much easier. Shorten them down to what will feel almost goofy, shuffling strides- you'll be amazed how much fresher your legs will feel.

Pigskin- welcome back! Really glad to hear you're feeling better and zipping right along as usual. I hope you gave all my love and props to CA. Don't you have a race soon too?

Gruecd- sounds like you're back in the thick of things with those 6s splits. I think I recall you having a 1/2 marathon coming up, no?

Darrin- Gotta love, and still amazed at the "easy week/run" type comments and then seeing you banging out 6+ mile runs with regularity- still inspiring stuff.

FWIW- I never ran a 5k for time. :shrug: ... For college and HS soccer, we had to do sub 12:00 two miles (they called it the Cooper Test) and I had it at just below 11:00 one year... but no way was that translating into a third sub-5:30 mile. I think I would've been somewhere around 19:00, but it's easy to say something like that now.

 
Alrighty... training talk:

Last time I was in here 2 weeks ago, I had just finished an 8 mile run as part of training for NYC Marathon in Nov. I think I finished around 1:30 in complete agony after no sleep and fierce humidity heat with lots of walking and stopping and moments of panic/gloom/suicide at a water fountain with miles to go before getting home.

I took, or at least the week took me, off the week after that. My mom showed up last week to help with the kid, so I started getting a little bit of sleep.

Ran 3m on Tuesday at an easy pace- 26:22.

This put me in better spirits after the 8m debacle, and had me thinking about the marathon again (first goal is finishing while staying healthy, but would like to be sub 4:00 if I get to race day healthy and having slept a little bit). Missed my Thurs workout, but did 10m on Saturday.

I decided to use my IM marathon plan, which was to walk the aid-stations every mile. With the 8m misadventure hovering over my thoughts, I went out slow- 9:30s for the first couple miles and relished my fuel belt (ammino vitale endurance lemonade) with each walk. Some sleep and beautiful weather made a HUGE difference, as I knew I was feeling frosty by the 5m turnaround point. Took a Gu (Plain), but kept to walking at the mile marks. Found my pace picking up with each of the next five miles until Mile 8-9 when I tailed a cute young runner who had passed me at my previous walk... I caught up to her and winked- she asked me my name chatted a little and mentioned she needed help with her HR monitor strap. She lived right off the running course and asked me to come up, which I did. She slowly unraveled her drenched tank top to reveal two perfect mounds of luscious... sorry. I'm making all that up. But a cute girl did pass me during my 8m walk, and I tailed along behind her for a mile at 7:30 pace- the body wanted to run at that pace (which was somewhere around my old 1/2 pace) and the muscle memory kicked in strong, but the lungs were fightin' mad by my walk at 9m and during the last mile home.

But... finished the 10 at a little over 1:29, even with the walking- and still felt good. Big negative split on the run, but I'm going to have to find the time to drag myself up to Central Park and it's hills- I'm running on the rivers which are pancake flat and aren't doing me any conditioning favors. I'll definitely keep this walking thing up while I get my conditioning back- the knee and foot both felt after and today.

I'll try and get back in here more regular, but as you know, it's tough finding time with the brat around.

 
I had a nice change of scenery for my 6 mile run yesterday. My wife and I took the family up to a suburb of the Twin Cities in Minnesota and I just strapped on the Garmin and ran until it said 3 miles, turned around, and ran back. It was really an amazing run for me. When I hit 4 miles and realized that I was feeling absolutely no pain, a HUGE SMILE came across my face and I became hopeful that my days of having so many aches and pains before, during and after my runs may be behind me. It may have been the best I've ever felt, and even today I'm still feeling great so I'm looking forward to another great week and thinking I may have to try some new routes because my usual route is starting to bore me a little.

 
2Young2BBald - Unless you are planning to finish in the money, don't worry about posting "great times". Run just for the enjoyment and of course the exercise. Though it is easy for me to say that because I am new to running and pretty slow. But I do love being out there and just about all the time, that is enough.El Floppo - They know what causes that baby thing now, and it is preventable. :P Glad to here that you are finally getting some sleep :thumbup: . I tried to run while tired one day and it did not go well. :X

But a cute girl did pass me during my 8m walk, and I tailed along behind her for a mile at 7:30 pace
:thumbup: Good idea on the run/walk training. I am going to try it on Saturday's run, though I am going to run 40 minutes/walk 2. Great job getting your mind back on track. Running is 90% physical and 43% mental.Rock - Sounds like you are really enjoying the running. Of course being pain free would make a difference. I understand the huge smile. I get one every time I realize that I am actually running.No training for me until the 7 miler tomorrow afternoon. You all have a good Monday.
 
Found my pace picking up with each of the next five miles until Mile 8-9 when I tailed a cute young runner who had passed me at my previous walk... I caught up to her and winked- she asked me my name chatted a little and mentioned she needed help with her HR monitor strap. She lived right off the running course and asked me to come up, which I did. She slowly unraveled her drenched tank top to reveal two perfect mounds of luscious...
Every runner's dream.... :goodposting:
 
Alan Webb broke one of America's most venerated sports records when he scorched a 3:46.91 mile in a low-key meet in Brasschaat, Belgium tonight (21), breaking Steve Scott's 25-year-old record of 3:47.69 set in Oslo in 1982.
 
Gruecd- sounds like you're back in the thick of things with those 6s splits. I think I recall you having a 1/2 marathon coming up, no?
Yeah, but it's still about 2 months away. Hoping to break 1:30 for the first time ever (current PR is 1:32:41), which would put me in the top 2-3% of finishers for this particular race. We'll see how it goes.
 
For those scoring at home that's 15.8 miles per hour.
Caught a little bit of the Tour de Farce on TV this weekend, and I could've sworn that I heard one of the cyclists say something about crashing at 65 km/hour (about 40 mph).Is that right?! :lmao:

 
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