beer 302
Footballguy
Nice job Mrs KMade it! 3:58:52.
And props to Pro as well, seriously tho, 8:28 miles? You're off the Christmas card list 
Way to crush a PR man 
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And props to Pro as well, seriously tho, 8:28 miles? You're off the Christmas card list Way to crush a PR man 
sho nuff
Footballguy
Awesome...congrats to Mrs. K.Made it! 3:58:52.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Way to just destroy that goal and PR...Very happy with today 1:51:? Around an 8:30 avg pace. I am waiting for official results and the site seems to be down. I will do a full report tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for all the well wishes and messages. They really mean a lot.Congrats to Mrs. Ivan
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Congrats to Prosopis and Ivan's wife!
Do we know about BnB yet?
Do we know about BnB yet?
beer 302
Footballguy
He may still be running
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
2012 Tucson half Marathon
I had to get up at 3:00am for this race.
Shuttles start leaving for the start line at 4:45 and I am about 40 mins away from there. I really like this race but the timing and the whole shuttle system is kind of a pain. It was very cold in my opinion and they get you at the start about 1 hr prior to the gun. I hydrated REALLY well on the way there. Jumped off the bus and into a porta john. I then got back on the bus and we were able to stay in there for 20 mins or so. They eventually threw us off so they could load the bags onto the bus. I did save some hospital gowns that we wear in the OR. These are disposable and they worked pretty well as I had doubled them up. Of course I do look a little silly, like I am ready to go into surgery.
My goal was to break 2 hrs and I will admit I felt fairly confident. I set my Garmin for an 8:50-9:00 pace.
I shed the hospital garb right before the gun.
Miles 1-3 8:36,8:28,8:34
I knew I was going to fast and I did try to reign it in. I was actually pushing 8:00 miles and I reined it in to what you see. Slight uphill at the beginning but then it is downhill in a big way. I was stride for stride with a wonderful young lady. Sorry no bib number. I was really cold these first three miles. My hands were aching but adrenaline was helping a lot. I was worried about the pace but it felt easy so I stuck with it.
Miles 4-6 8:30,8:22,8:19
I was surprised that I was maintaining this pace but I was and it felt good. I am still not feeling any pain. I think it was mile 5 when the young lady I was running with decides she is warming up and needs to shed some clothes.
Holy crap it was a wonderful strip show while running but she was slowing down as she was doing it. I started slowing down as well to enjoy the show. Eventually she was slowing down to much and the whole thing was getting to stalkerish so I left her and moved on. I am also getting a strong urge to pee about know and I think I hydrated to well. 
I really did not want to stop to pee.
Miles 7-10 8:23,8:52,8:22
Moving along well but I really have to go to the bathroom.Mile 9 I see an open porta pottie and I jump in. I am peeing and hearing my garmin beep at me to pick up the pace. When I got out of the porta john I was easily over a 10 min pace. I worked pretty hard to get that mile back to 8:52. Maybe to hard as I am now starting to feel it and I am worried I have gone to fast.
Miles 11-13 8:21,8:41,8:38
I am really concerned now that I can not maintain this and I am thinking I may have to walk. Came to a water stop and grabbed some water. I also tried to grab a cliff shot but the transfer was not made cleanly and it hit the road. I just kept going as I really did not want to stop. I get a little ways and I hear someone saying "hear you go man keep going" and it is the kid from the water stop chasing me down and giving me the cliff shot
. I thought that was pretty damn cool and I wish I knew who it was so I could tell him how cool that was. No way I was stopping now. Mile 12 and we are going uphill. OH NO!!!! I was really hurting miles 12-13 and second guessing my pace. Having said that I never stopped.
Mile .1 7:45
YAAAAAAAAA I saw that clock and knew I made it. I was ecstatic. Best race ever.
1:51:16 avg pace 8:30
Div place 21
overall 369
New PR for me
Thanks to everyone in this thread. Thanks for all the well wishes and messages. I thought of the people in this thread a lot today. There were times it carried me over some rough spots.
That is a new PR for me. I never thought I would see an 8:30 pace for a half.
I had to get up at 3:00am for this race.
Shuttles start leaving for the start line at 4:45 and I am about 40 mins away from there. I really like this race but the timing and the whole shuttle system is kind of a pain. It was very cold in my opinion and they get you at the start about 1 hr prior to the gun. I hydrated REALLY well on the way there. Jumped off the bus and into a porta john. I then got back on the bus and we were able to stay in there for 20 mins or so. They eventually threw us off so they could load the bags onto the bus. I did save some hospital gowns that we wear in the OR. These are disposable and they worked pretty well as I had doubled them up. Of course I do look a little silly, like I am ready to go into surgery.My goal was to break 2 hrs and I will admit I felt fairly confident. I set my Garmin for an 8:50-9:00 pace.
I shed the hospital garb right before the gun.
Miles 1-3 8:36,8:28,8:34
I knew I was going to fast and I did try to reign it in. I was actually pushing 8:00 miles and I reined it in to what you see. Slight uphill at the beginning but then it is downhill in a big way. I was stride for stride with a wonderful young lady. Sorry no bib number. I was really cold these first three miles. My hands were aching but adrenaline was helping a lot. I was worried about the pace but it felt easy so I stuck with it.
Miles 4-6 8:30,8:22,8:19
I was surprised that I was maintaining this pace but I was and it felt good. I am still not feeling any pain. I think it was mile 5 when the young lady I was running with decides she is warming up and needs to shed some clothes.
Holy crap it was a wonderful strip show while running but she was slowing down as she was doing it. I started slowing down as well to enjoy the show. Eventually she was slowing down to much and the whole thing was getting to stalkerish so I left her and moved on. I am also getting a strong urge to pee about know and I think I hydrated to well. I really did not want to stop to pee.Miles 7-10 8:23,8:52,8:22
Moving along well but I really have to go to the bathroom.Mile 9 I see an open porta pottie and I jump in. I am peeing and hearing my garmin beep at me to pick up the pace. When I got out of the porta john I was easily over a 10 min pace. I worked pretty hard to get that mile back to 8:52. Maybe to hard as I am now starting to feel it and I am worried I have gone to fast.
Miles 11-13 8:21,8:41,8:38
I am really concerned now that I can not maintain this and I am thinking I may have to walk. Came to a water stop and grabbed some water. I also tried to grab a cliff shot but the transfer was not made cleanly and it hit the road. I just kept going as I really did not want to stop. I get a little ways and I hear someone saying "hear you go man keep going" and it is the kid from the water stop chasing me down and giving me the cliff shot
. I thought that was pretty damn cool and I wish I knew who it was so I could tell him how cool that was. No way I was stopping now. Mile 12 and we are going uphill. OH NO!!!! I was really hurting miles 12-13 and second guessing my pace. Having said that I never stopped.Mile .1 7:45
YAAAAAAAAA I saw that clock and knew I made it. I was ecstatic. Best race ever.
1:51:16 avg pace 8:30
Div place 21
overall 369
New PR for me
Thanks to everyone in this thread. Thanks for all the well wishes and messages. I thought of the people in this thread a lot today. There were times it carried me over some rough spots.
That is a new PR for me. I never thought I would see an 8:30 pace for a half.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
I hope everyone bet the under! He 'comfortably' beat 12 hours. This is one. tough. dude.
--Prosopis - what a fantastic job! You are a runner!!! I'm thrilled at how far you have come these past couple of years.
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DanFouts
Footballguy
2012 Tucson half MarathonI had to get up at 3:00am for this race.
Awesome!!! congrats! love the race report too!!
I finished. Some basic data.54.43 miles in 11:49. 7231 ft climbing.
76 signed up.
49 finished.
37th place was me.
Winning time was 7:27.
Only 5 went sub 9, 16 total sub 10 hr times.
I'll do a full race report later in the week. Been out of town after the event and have to go clean and work on a rental property today and Tue. That said, here's a summary.
Went into this event under trained. Many here have said don't make you long run more than 50% on your weekily mileage. I ran 102 miles in October.
I was so excited I couldn't sleep the night before. Last remember seeing 2 am on the clock, alarm went off at 4 am. 1.5 hour drive to the event.Legs felt heavy and dead at the start. The crowd was off hard and my 9:45 pace had me in dead last by mile 2. Passed a couple in the 4th mile. From there we had a 2000 ft climb over 8 miles. Legs came aroung here. Did most of my passing over this stretch and don't recall being passed. Hit Wiseman's view around mile 14.5. http://images.summitpost.org/original/187164.jpg
From mile 16 to mile 34 I was solo. I struggled really bad between miles 14-24 before dropping into diesel mode. Chewed up the next 10 miles. Enjoyed this stretched and soaked it all in.
This was my view at mile 34. http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/17973671.jpg I couldn't believe I'd be on top of this in less than 2 miles. Summit was roughly 1500 ft up. I remember thinking who thought up this route and why. While it turned out to be hard, it was bad as I expected. Was passed once on the rock steps to the top.
Ran well until about mile 40 when I know the 11 hour stretch goal was out of reach. Ended up running and walking with one guy for a long time. That ended up being a mistake as neither of us was running or race anymore and likely holding each other up. I'll get into this more later. Suffice to say, at 11 hours I had close to 4.5 miles left and had to kick it up a notch again to beat 12 hour. Had a position battle in the last mile. Finally crossed the finish line. Probably smiled the rest of the night.
No potty stories to share...didn't go #1 or #2 the whole time. Was drinking two bottles every 1.5 hours. Nutrition plan was weak.
I'm sore beyond sore. Can't stand up without using my arms to push/pull off something. Steps...forget about it right now unless I lean against the wall. Even the upper body muscles are barking. All that said, very happy I did this. This distance is more mental than physical. I've learned a lot from this event.
My 100 miler is 17 weeks out. Basically add another 46 miles and 1000 ft in climbing over that distance. If I duplicate this start at that event, 23 min per mile pace over the 46 miles gets me in under the cutoff. Next event is 5 weeks out. 50K/30K double. Recovering for the next few days and then completely revamping the training plan.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Epic mini report...epic run...and I know it often gets said and gone back on in this thread...but there is no way in H E double hockey sticks you will ever see me in an event like that.Hells to the no.Congrats BnB...my god, BnB.
AcerFC
Footballguy
And awesome job by pro and mrs kmy god, BnB.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Damn, BnB. That's stellar.
DanFouts
Footballguy
Epic mini report...epic run...and I know it often gets said and gone back on in this thread...but there is no way in H E double hockey sticks you will ever see me in an event like that.Hells to the no.Congrats BnB...my god, BnB.
Wow....just wow BnB......
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Great stuff, congrats! Love to see a training plan pay off!2012 Tucson half MarathonI had to get up at 3:00am for this race.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Awesome, BnB. Can't wait to hear even more details (you all have seen how long my reports can get!). I'm especially interested in what you learned (you mentioned nutrition) and how you are planning on revamping the training plan.Congrats, ultramarathoner!my god, BnB.
The_Man
Footballguy
BnB, Pro, Mrs. K - all incredible stuff. Congrats!
I realized over the weekend that my oft-stated dream race of Boston 2014 - when the Marathon is Easter weekend, so my whole family can go and stay at my Mother-in-Law's house on the course - was exactly 500 days from this past Friday.
Time to get serious.
Locking in my 16-month calendar right now that's going to get me there. It started with a couple of bleh 6-mile runs this weekend, but at least it started.
I realized over the weekend that my oft-stated dream race of Boston 2014 - when the Marathon is Easter weekend, so my whole family can go and stay at my Mother-in-Law's house on the course - was exactly 500 days from this past Friday.
Time to get serious.
Locking in my 16-month calendar right now that's going to get me there. It started with a couple of bleh 6-mile runs this weekend, but at least it started.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Did almost 6 miles in a one hour run yesterday. That is PDG for me. It was a crisp 37 degrees and damp out and I felt like I could have gone another 6 but I had a dinner the attend. Pissed me off because it was one of those days when you just settle in and everything is feeling good.
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Great race! Congrats on making your goal time. Inspiring! Looking forward to reading the "full" race report.
54.43 miles in 11:49. 7231 ft climbing.
76 signed up.
49 finished.
37th place was me.
Winning time was 7:27.
Only 5 went sub 9, 16 total sub 10 hr times.
I'll do a full race report later in the week. Been out of town after the event and have to go clean and work on a rental property today and Tue. That said, here's a summary.
Went into this event under trained. Many here have said don't make you long run more than 50% on your weekily mileage. I ran 102 miles in October.
Legs felt heavy and dead at the start. The crowd was off hard and my 9:45 pace had me in dead last by mile 2. Passed a couple in the 4th mile. From there we had a 2000 ft climb over 8 miles. Legs came aroung here. Did most of my passing over this stretch and don't recall being passed. Hit Wiseman's view around mile 14.5. http://images.summitpost.org/original/187164.jpg
From mile 16 to mile 34 I was solo. I struggled really bad between miles 14-24 before dropping into diesel mode. Chewed up the next 10 miles. Enjoyed this stretched and soaked it all in.
This was my view at mile 34. http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/17973671.jpg I couldn't believe I'd be on top of this in less than 2 miles. Summit was roughly 1500 ft up. I remember thinking who thought up this route and why. While it turned out to be hard, it was bad as I expected. Was passed once on the rock steps to the top.
Ran well until about mile 40 when I know the 11 hour stretch goal was out of reach. Ended up running and walking with one guy for a long time. That ended up being a mistake as neither of us was running or race anymore and likely holding each other up. I'll get into this more later. Suffice to say, at 11 hours I had close to 4.5 miles left and had to kick it up a notch again to beat 12 hour. Had a position battle in the last mile. Finally crossed the finish line. Probably smiled the rest of the night.
No potty stories to share...didn't go #1 or #2 the whole time. Was drinking two bottles every 1.5 hours. Nutrition plan was weak.
I'm sore beyond sore. Can't stand up without using my arms to push/pull off something. Steps...forget about it right now unless I lean against the wall. Even the upper body muscles are barking. All that said, very happy I did this. This distance is more mental than physical. I've learned a lot from this event.
My 100 miler is 17 weeks out. Basically add another 46 miles and 1000 ft in climbing over that distance. If I duplicate this start at that event, 23 min per mile pace over the 46 miles gets me in under the cutoff. Next event is 5 weeks out. 50K/30K double. Recovering for the next few days and then completely revamping the training plan.
beer 302
Footballguy
Just an AWESOME race man, very proud of you Pro.2012 Tucson half Marathon1:51:16 avg pace 8:30Div place 21overall 369New PR for me
BnB I joke around but you're a ####### beast man. To pull this off on your training is amazing to me
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
As for me, I ran 42.8 miles over 5 days last week including a 14 miler yesterday. That normally would be a lot of miles but Boston is 18 weeks out and I start the Pfitz 18/70 plan this week. It starts out with weekly mileage in the mid 50s to low 60s! 
Keep in mind that 55 miles is the most I've ever run in a week.
Mondays will be my normally scheduled day off so I'll officially start tomorrow with a 9/4 LT run. I'm already dreading that one since I haven't done speed work that long since September. I'm hoping to struggle through the first few weeks and trust that the training plan will get me where I need to be. I decided to take this week off from work so I don't have much else other than running (and a little Christmas shopping) to worry about this week. Breaking 3:00 is definitely the goal and I'm committed to doing everything I can to reach that. I'm even foregoing all alcohol for the duration of training since I've noticed its negative effects on training for me in the past.
Keep in mind that 55 miles is the most I've ever run in a week.Mondays will be my normally scheduled day off so I'll officially start tomorrow with a 9/4 LT run. I'm already dreading that one since I haven't done speed work that long since September. I'm hoping to struggle through the first few weeks and trust that the training plan will get me where I need to be. I decided to take this week off from work so I don't have much else other than running (and a little Christmas shopping) to worry about this week. Breaking 3:00 is definitely the goal and I'm committed to doing everything I can to reach that. I'm even foregoing all alcohol for the duration of training since I've noticed its negative effects on training for me in the past.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I am pissed. Yesterday was an USDO due to the blizzard (I know gruecd would use this as an opportunity to do an 11/7 tempo run). Today is another USDO thanks to my kids schools being on a two-hour delay, which essentially torpedoed my workday. I'm sure I'll be able to make up one of these later in the week, but it looks like I'm going to have an unscheduled and unwanted cutback week.
Ned
Footballguy
If I can do it, you can too. You got this. Before you know it, 6 days/week will feel normal.As for me, I ran 42.8 miles over 5 days last week including a 14 miler yesterday. That normally would be a lot of miles but Boston is 18 weeks out and I start the Pfitz 18/70 plan this week. It starts out with weekly mileage in the mid 50s to low 60s!
Ned
Footballguy
It's the offseason, GB. Enjoy the extra break.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
AcerFC - Saw your post asking about Pfitz's strides and thought this might be useful...
Personally, still trying to get my stupid Achilles healed up. It's getting better, but it's definitely not all the way there yet. Managed some runs in the 4- to 6-mile range last week, including a couple in Central Park while in NYC. I weighed myself last night for the first time since my DNF at JFK, and let's just say I've got a lot of work to do between now and Boston!
With regard to everything else, I've been busy as #### the last 10 days or so, so I apologize for being miserably out of the loop. I know that sho nuff, prosopis, and BNB deserve congratulations for some awesome races, but does anyone care to give me the CliffsNotes version of what else has been going on around here??
Personally, still trying to get my stupid Achilles healed up. It's getting better, but it's definitely not all the way there yet. Managed some runs in the 4- to 6-mile range last week, including a couple in Central Park while in NYC. I weighed myself last night for the first time since my DNF at JFK, and let's just say I've got a lot of work to do between now and Boston!
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Grue, have you decided on a training plan for Boston?
AcerFC
Footballguy
Thanks Grue
How sore are you guys after your long Sunday runs?
Did 13 yesterday in 1:58. It was 8 @ HM pace. Felt decent doing it but my knees and feet hurt afterwards. Wondering if its normal wear and tear or I'm just not cut out for it. 3 miles (6-9) were uphill the whole time. It's amazing the difference between running level vs uphill.
How sore are you guys after your long Sunday runs?
Did 13 yesterday in 1:58. It was 8 @ HM pace. Felt decent doing it but my knees and feet hurt afterwards. Wondering if its normal wear and tear or I'm just not cut out for it. 3 miles (6-9) were uphill the whole time. It's amazing the difference between running level vs uphill.
gruecd
Footballguy
Hoping to do Pfitz 12/70 starting on January 21 with some modifications to account for the fact that I'll also be attempting another 50-miler less than a month later (on May 11). Achilles permitting, of course.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
my god, BnB.
I dont know what to say about BnB but the above about covers it. I might add a 
Just incredible.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Aren't you only a few weeks into your training? 8 @ HM pace is a challenging run. It's not surprising you're sore from that. If you're not too aggressive with your training, soreness shouldn't be too bad. We all deal with various aches and pains throughout training but basic soreness should fade as your body and muscles adjust.
mr. furley
Footballguy
more dangerous than running on snow and ice while wearing yak-trax? walking on bare concrete in yak-trax.
jmfc i nearly fell ace backwards 3 times on bare patches just walking back to my car
jmfc i nearly fell ace backwards 3 times on bare patches just walking back to my car
Ned
Footballguy
Yeah pretty sure that should've been MP, not HMP. There's nothing in the Pfitz plans that would call for that long of a tempo run.
davegameplayer
Footballguy
Why hasn't anyone mentioned how nice it is to run in cool weather? It was 49 with a slight breeze when I started. Ran three and a half the first at 830 the second at 901... My shoe came untied had to retie, and 844 in the third. This was the first time that I have felt great for the whole run and really enjoyed it. The last .4 or so was 3 minutes and 14 seconds. Was a really promising run and makes me feel like I am actually making some progress!
AcerFC
Footballguy
Ned is right. My bad. Without re reading the book, how do you guys deal with a missed day. Had a GA 10 miler today but I physically can't do it (not soreness, other condition where I won't be able to run for more than 15 minutes at a time). Tomorrow is supposed to be a recovery run and 8 on Thursday with LT at 4miles
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
If you miss a day, you miss a day. Don't try to make the miles up. Missing a 10 mile GA run is no big deal provided it doesn't become a regular occurance. The LT workout on Thursday is more important.With regard to your aches and pains, I frequently have mild knee pain after a long or particularly hard run. It typically goes away after a few hours. The trick is to learn the difference between "ordinary soreness that pretty much everybody experiences in training" vs. "overuse injury." I'm not sure what advice to give you here other than to say that most people learn the difference through experience (ie the hard way).________________________Got in a good 13-mile treadmill run before work this morning. It was originally just going to be 12, but after two days off I was feeling good and decided to extend it a little. I'm definitely still enjoying some fitness gains from 18/55. A year ago, I would have been at least a little tired toward the end of a run like this, whereas today I wasn't tired at all and would have liked to have gone further. On a side note, my guess is that I'll be spending lots of time on the treadmill now that our sidewalks are all ice-covered. I was spoiled last winter, but this is more typical.
beer 302
Footballguy
I want to shoot myself just thinking about running 13 miles on a treadmill, oof
tri-man 47
Footballguy
We're pretty good about transitioning from "it was 90 degrees, but I got my run in" to "look at me, I ran in a 10 degree snowstorm!"
Or we just suffer through prosopis-envy during the winter as he now gets his prime running weather. But yes, the cool weather is ideal - 30s-40s is great ..dress a bit warmer, maybe grab some running gloves or cap, and enjoy.Great run for you!
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
That's the best weather to run in imho, between 45 and 55 with little wind + precipitation.
Ned
Footballguy
On the scheduling, I'd offer up a different idea. I'd skip today, run the recovery run tomorrow. Then, since you already ran a LT run on Sunday (and a longer/harder one at that), I'd swap out the 8/4LT run for the 10mi GA. Ivan is spot on with the ordinary soreness vs. overuse. It's definitely a learning experience, and a personal one at that. Your aches in your knees could be totally different than something Ivan or I would feel. I know you said you had your reasons for jumping right into this, but don't remember what your prior running was like. Are you going from something like 15 mpw into this? If your previous mileage has been light, I'd be more conservative with the 'ignoring' the aches/pains. Ice and Compression are your best friend right now.
Ned
Footballguy
So true.
Dave - stick around long enough and you'll see just about every post in July/August centered around us #####ing about the heat. October/November for most of us is PR season because of those 49 degree days. davegameplayer
Footballguy
I can already see myself complaining about the heat... I am in Austin and this is pull out your fancy furs type of weather right now.'Ned said:'IvanKaramazov said:'tri-man 47 said:
MAC_32
Footballguy
btw, Ned - results of that experiment showed the following
Those with higher BMI's performed better consuming chocolate milk and those with lower BMI's performed better with gatorade. The results in the samples between 22 and 25 were hazy so the breakeven is somewhere in there. Everyone > 25 performed best with the milk, everyone south of 22 gatorade though. We figure with a larger sample we could nail down a concrete number.
Logically, makes sense and surprised I didn't think of that beforehand. More muscle mass --> more protein needed to recover.
Heart rates were all over the place and inconclusive unfortunately. Able to detect trends, but not enough to be considered conclusive. Generally they were high post water and coconut water and combined with bad performances, so, not good options. Needle didn't point one way or the other on chocolate milk and gatorade though.
Those with higher BMI's performed better consuming chocolate milk and those with lower BMI's performed better with gatorade. The results in the samples between 22 and 25 were hazy so the breakeven is somewhere in there. Everyone > 25 performed best with the milk, everyone south of 22 gatorade though. We figure with a larger sample we could nail down a concrete number.
Logically, makes sense and surprised I didn't think of that beforehand. More muscle mass --> more protein needed to recover.
Heart rates were all over the place and inconclusive unfortunately. Able to detect trends, but not enough to be considered conclusive. Generally they were high post water and coconut water and combined with bad performances, so, not good options. Needle didn't point one way or the other on chocolate milk and gatorade though.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
'beer 302 said:
I get the benefit of being able to bang out some miles on the dreadmill, especially all of you that live in parts of the country that experience actual winter, but I just can't handle it. Luckily, I don't have to living here! I received notification today that I was pulled from the waitlist to the starting line for the Way Too Cool 50K! With 1000 participants it's one of the bigger ultras around, and it's always fun to be part of a race with ultrastuds like Max King, Rory Bosio 
, and Tim Twietmeyer......even if I will only see them if they happen to hang around the finish line for several hours after they've crossed.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I attempted a recovery run today. I went out at a 10:00 pace but at 3/4 of a mile I got some really bad rt knee pain laterally. I slowed down to a fast walk and called it a day at 2 miles. I think I am feeling the effects of running down hill and the new speed I hit. I realize I should take some recovery days but I am so close to hitting 1000 miles for the year I dont want to miss it. I think I will try elyptical for a few days and see how that goes.
Did my hard run for the week today, wanted to do 6-7 but was a little too cold outside so I increased the speed and cut it out at 5. Less miles and harder intensity > anything on the dreadmill. Die dreadmill, die.Similar threads
