Ran a 10k in June (9 Viewers)

[Sand]

Wow! Glad you're doing OK now, Tri-man! Was it a bee or do you think it was something else?

I suspect it was a bee ...probably angered/surprised it mid-flight path so it stung. I'd guess that the continued running had the effect of quickly spreading the toxins in my system. Everything feeling normalish after a nap except that the spot where I got stung still ..stings.

Damn. Glad this turned out to be fairly minor. Allergic reactions can be all over the map. Funny enough I got stung yesterday. No reaction and swelling yesterday was minimal. After the race my ankle is swelled up pretty good. Luckily no other issues.

 

[Hang 10]

Great job Guru! Be careful, this running thing is addicting!

Good luck with your training.

I agree that one of the great benefits of running is the ability to eat and drink like a college student. I consume tremendous amounts of calories and drink a lot of beer and my weight is the lowest it has been in more than 15 years.

This.

Today I'm putting a six pack where my six pack is.

 

[Da Guru]

Great job Guru! Be careful, this running thing is addicting!

Good luck with your training.

I agree that one of the great benefits of running is the ability to eat and drink like a college student. I consume tremendous amounts of calories and drink a lot of beer and my weight is the lowest it has been in more than 15 years.

This.

Today I'm putting a six pack where my six pack is.

I am 6-1, and at 227lbs I thought I looked good..but I had that weightlifter look.. Now at 210 I retained my muscle and look so much leaner..my face looks leaner and younger. People guess my weight at around 200 now.

I have 4-5 pair of some dam nice 36x34 jeans if anyone is interested. They fall off me now. Actually most of my jeans, dress pants and shorts are too big for me now. That is a good problem though...

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That's a pretty impressive race to pick for your first half, Prince. Congrats on the PR and here's looking forward to seeing what you do on course of nice, flat asphalt.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Wow! Glad you're doing OK now, Tri-man! Was it a bee or do you think it was something else?

I suspect it was a bee ...probably angered/surprised it mid-flight path so it stung. I'd guess that the continued running had the effect of quickly spreading the toxins in my system. Everything feeling normalish after a nap except that the spot where I got stung still ..stings.

Scary start to the taper. Glad you are OK!!! Hopefully, this will make for a good punchline to a very successful race next weekend.

 

[gruecd]

Good to hear you're ok, tri-man.

 

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Damn son... I couldn't image a half that's hilly as ####. Impressive!

Master of the Mountain Train Half Marathon

 

[[icon]]

Good to hear you're ok, tri-man.

[icon] - way to stick with it in the heat and humidity. When it's hard to breath in under those conditions, then (my broken record theme) focus on a strong exhale ..and let the inhale take care of itself.

I love tips like this.... thank you! Will put this to work this week.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

thanks for all the congrats guys...i need it! i actually felt really good today. The only part that hurts is my ### (glutes if the filter gets it) but it's a good sore, not something to worry about. If it hadn't been for my local draft today, I probably would have ran a couple of miles.

great race hang10 and good to hear that tri=man is doing ok. allergic reactions are nothing to scoff at!

 

[Sand]

Master of the Mountain Train Half Marathon

I missed this traveling yesterday. That looked like an awesome race (and really, a great time).

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Damn son... I couldn't image a half that's hilly as ####. Impressive!

Master of the Mountain Train Half Marathon

funny you say that, because I cant either!! My wife and I were just talking about how after we finished our first 5k a couple of years ago they had a half running at the same time. We both agreed there was no way we could ever run that far. Now that I've done it, it doesn't seem like that big of deal, but 2 1/2 years ago, I couldn't run 30 seconds without being ready to stop.

 

[sho nuff]

Great job Prince and others...been sort of out of it for the past few days with my family visiting and my sinus issues creeping up.

Time to HTFU and just stick to my plan for the St. Jude half...going to plan to be ready to run a sub 2:00...eventhough my niece says she wants to run about a 10 min/mile. (she was first going for better...but spent the better part of the summer in a walking boot.

Adding in more weight and core work getting my own body back to where I want it to be...

On another note...had a friend (one that ran the full at St. Jude when I did last year) finish his first Ironman Tri today...was awesome following his wife's FB posts.

 

[prosopis]

ER Visit Report

2 hours, 20 minutes: BP 118/81 (spike to 140/88); HR low at 54

Kind of SandedTM the start as staff gave me some drugs and started an IV drip. Settled into a good pattern of rest, recovery, and observation. Still a bit of swelling at the end, and the lactic acid build-up made my legs real jittery. All in all, though, it was an effective event.

Oh, let me back up: I was out on an easy 5 mile recovery run this a.m. with a middle mile on a stretch of trail. While on the trail, I felt a significant stinging high on my chest (like a bee sting). Within about 5 minutes, starting feeling some numbness in my upper lip and an overall tingling sensation. Ran the final 2 miles home OK. When I looked in the mirror I could see the mark on my chest. My lip continued to swell, and everything was itching from the top of my head down to my feet. Called the doc, and she figured the best approach was to go to the ER. They quickly confirmed the doc's opinion that I was having an allergic reaction to the bite. Ultimately, the ER staff said it was a severe reaction, which is why they kept me an extra hour just to observe and be cautious. At its peak, both lips swelled, as did my nose and cheeks, and the itchiness was just everywhere. The drugs were effective, though, and other than feeling a little weak (which could be the lack of food/drink after the run), I think I'm OK. I'll have a couple of prescriptions for the next five days to ensure things settle down. I'll talk to the pharmacist later about the effect of the drugs on my energy levels. The ER doc felt I would be fine as the week progressed and would not be effected next week. Weird thing to happen one week before a big race!

Glad you are ok-scary

 

[Horses Mouth]

still training for ironman florida in november. did my longest run ever yesterday...16 miles. it was slow but wasn't too bad energy wise.

 

[tri-man 47]

still training for ironman florida in november. did my longest run ever yesterday...16 miles. it was slow but wasn't too bad energy wise.

Very cool. I don't recall if you've said - do you have a background in any of the three disciplines that you'd consider to be your strength? As for your run, slow won't matter, but having that energy will!

sho nuff - congrats to your friend on his Ironman!

Da Guru - great job on the year of cross training and running success! We're going to need a new "buff daddy" category for guys like you and Hang 10.

 

[gruecd]

Update...

I'm big time on the fence right now as to whether or not I'm going to join tri-man in Minocqua this weekend. I've said all along that I'd only race if start temps were forecast to be under 60 degrees, and that certainly does not appear to be the case. Overnight low for Saturday is now up to 64 degrees, which means that we're probably looking at upper 60s for the 7:00 start and 70s (and muggy) for the majority of the race. Did a 12-miler yesterday morning under similar conditions and struggled to finish with an 8:30 average pace. My Clydesdale body simply does not tolerate heat and humidity.

Still holding out a tad bit of hope, as there's a cold front currently forecast to hit on Monday with overnight lows for next week M-T-W forecast in the 40s. Maybe it will come early...

If not, I'll probably end up bailing and rolling with my hometown race on the 22nd. That will be a bit a gamble, too, as there's no guarantee that the weather will be any better, and depending upon when registration for Boston actually opens, it might be too late. On the plus side, it'll give me a little more time to train.

Keep your fingers crossed....

 

[dhockster]

Race Report Saturday 8/24/13 Lake Houston 10K:

I ran a 10K back in April in 53:15 which was a PR and was feeling pretty good at the time. This summer I have not been able to put in a lot of speed work and haven't been able to put in enough long runs (have done a lot of 3 or 4 milers) so I am worried about my stamina before the race. The race conditions are not great as the starting temp is around 76 and the finishing temp is around 79. Probably a suck index between 140 and 150. I am trying to run a qualifying time for the Houston half marathon of 51:08.

My strategy is to run the first mile in 8:30, run the 2nd in about 8:15, Miles 3-5 in 8:00, and then see what I have in the tank for the last 1.2.

My first problem comes at about 1 mile when I either miss or they didn't put up the 1 mile marker. My pace feels about right but I just have a stopwatch and can't know for sure what my pace is. I do find the mile marker at mile 2 and I am 16:30. I feel alright but not great. When we get to mile 3 I am disappointed to see an 8:30 mile time. I try to pick it up in mile 4 but again I run another 8:30 mile. I am now struggling some and am not able to pick up the pace. I realize that if my pace has slowed in mile 5 I really have no shot at meeting the qualifying time. I get to mile 5 pretty much spent and my split was 9:12. Knowing that I am not going to meet the qualifying time and that I am out of gas, I slow to a walk for about 30 seconds before I start jogging again. By the time I get to the final straightaway, I am able to sprint it in, and run the last 1.2 in 10:32 for a total time of 53:14. While I didn't make the qualifying time, I know that it is because of insufficient training and not because I didn't give it all I had during the race. While it was only 1 second, a PR is a PR, and I am happy with that. I now have to check the schedule to see what the next good race for me is, and make sure I get the proper training in before that race.

 

[Hang 10]

Congrats on the PR, dhockster. Stick with your training and I doubt you will have much trouble getting a 10K in under 50 minutes.

 

[sho nuff]

still training for ironman florida in november. did my longest run ever yesterday...16 miles. it was slow but wasn't too bad energy wise.

Very cool. I don't recall if you've said - do you have a background in any of the three disciplines that you'd consider to be your strength? As for your run, slow won't matter, but having that energy will!

sho nuff - congrats to your friend on his Ironman!

Da Guru - great job on the year of cross training and running success! We're going to need a new "buff daddy" category for guys like you and Hang 10.

he finished in 11:51...finished it up with a 4:10 run...

 

[tri-man 47]

still training for ironman florida in november. did my longest run ever yesterday...16 miles. it was slow but wasn't too bad energy wise.

Very cool. I don't recall if you've said - do you have a background in any of the three disciplines that you'd consider to be your strength? As for your run, slow won't matter, but having that energy will!

sho nuff - congrats to your friend on his Ironman!

Da Guru - great job on the year of cross training and running success! We're going to need a new "buff daddy" category for guys like you and Hang 10.

he finished in 11:51...finished it up with a 4:10 run...

Nice! Sub-12:00 is takes a serious effort. I'm impressed!

dhockster - still a PR. Live and learn ..as you note, you need more focused training. When you get that, your times will come down a lot.

 

[Sand]

Race Report Saturday 8/24/13 Lake Houston 10K:

I ran a 10K back in April in 53:15 which was a PR and was feeling pretty good at the time.

I am able to sprint it in, and run the last 1.2 in 10:32 for a total time of 53:14.

The Sergei Bubka PR method - awesome!

Given some more training I'd think a 51 minute 10k is well within reach. Sounds like it is just a matter of some consistent work to be done.

he finished in 11:51...finished it up with a 4:10 run...

I had three friends going - they finished in 11:49, 11:38, and 9:38. Fast m'fers. Sadly none of this speed has rubbed off on me.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Congrats Hock. As you said, a PR is a PR!

 

[koby925]

Congrats on the PR hock!

The weather is getting pretty nice around these parts. Humidity has subsided quite a bit recently. Has made for a nice foray back into traing after my 11 day layoff. One thing I have changed up since I restarted is making sure I incorporate some strides after every regular run. I was always advising to do them here but never taking my own advice because I feel like I'm always fitting a run in. So I had been just running and then getting back into the car or house with no strides or stretching. One of my theories about all the leg soreness I've been experiencing (aside from lack of stretching) is I wasn't doing enough speed. So that when I DID do speed, my body reacts like anything else it isn't used to doing regularly. I've described it to friends as the pain your body feels after playing a game of hoops or flag football or something when you haven't in months/years. Muscles you didn't even know you had hurt like hell the next day. I think doing speedwork so infrequently was triggering these pains. And I'm older now, so I think the pain is lingering longer. So, anyway, I've started doing 4-8 strides after my runs. This gets me to do 2 things: stretch some between the run and strides and get used to doing more short burst work. The first couple days and first couple strides on those days were particularly painful, but I've been keeping up with it and feel like I am slowly getting some bounce back.

 

[[icon]]

Funny article buddy shared.... Why runners are jerks:

http://guyspeed.com/runners-are-jerks/?trackback=fbshare



Oh... and I'm not only coming down with a cold, but the expected high for my long day this week (friday) is 98.

Awesome. Only 2 more weeks (6-7 running sessions) to get ready for the 4 miler. I was dying after 2 miles last friday... I REALLY hope temps cool down over the next two weeks. This is going to suck if it's in the upper 90s and humid still :(

 

[Sand]

Funny article buddy shared.... Why runners are jerks:

http://guyspeed.com/runners-are-jerks/?trackback=fbshare



Oh... and I'm not only coming down with a cold, but the expected high for my long day this week (friday) is 98.

Awesome. Only 2 more weeks (6-7 running sessions) to get ready for the 4 miler. I was dying after 2 miles last friday... I REALLY hope temps cool down over the next two weeks. This is going to suck if it's in the upper 90s and humid still :(

Drink a slush right before you go out running. It works incredibly well to help keep your core temperature low.

 

[sho nuff]

Race Report Saturday 8/24/13 Lake Houston 10K:

I ran a 10K back in April in 53:15 which was a PR and was feeling pretty good at the time.

I am able to sprint it in, and run the last 1.2 in 10:32 for a total time of 53:14.

The Sergei Bubka PR method - awesome!

Given some more training I'd think a 51 minute 10k is well within reach. Sounds like it is just a matter of some consistent work to be done.

he finished in 11:51...finished it up with a 4:10 run...

I had three friends going - they finished in 11:49, 11:38, and 9:38. Fast m'fers. Sadly none of this speed has rubbed off on me.

Yeah...I know it...it was funny last year before we both signed up for the St. Jude full...he was almost against doing a full ever and content with the halfs and sprint tris.

He got together with some group after the full (which he went sub 4 and I blew up)...and got into the swimming every morning with a group out on a lake. Did a half IM this spring in the rain in Knoxville...now the IM in Louisville this weekend.

He has gotten crazy fast for me...thought Id be able to catch him at one point when we both started really getting into halfs...but he has taken off big time.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Awesome. Only 2 more weeks (6-7 running sessions) to get ready for the 4 miler. I was dying after 2 miles last friday... I REALLY hope temps cool down over the next two weeks. This is going to suck if it's in the upper 90s and humid still :(

Icon,

I did a C25K program before my first 5k a couple of years back. Like you, I struggled a week or so before the race in finishing the first non-stop 20 minute run. In fact, I think that was my longest training run before the race. I was majorly worried about finishing, but the adrenaline from the race carried me. I bet if you slowed that pace down, you could run it pretty easy now.

(Holy crap, I think this is the first time I've ever given advice in this tread. I'm definitely no expert, but I remember feeling just the way you are describing.)

 

[tri-man 47]

(Holy crap, I think this is the first time I've ever given advice in this tread. I'm definitely no expert, but I remember feeling just the way you are describing.)

Circle of life, GB, circle of life.

 

[Sand]

Awesome. Only 2 more weeks (6-7 running sessions) to get ready for the 4 miler. I was dying after 2 miles last friday... I REALLY hope temps cool down over the next two weeks. This is going to suck if it's in the upper 90s and humid still :(

Icon,

I did a C25K program before my first 5k a couple of years back. Like you, I struggled a week or so before the race in finishing the first non-stop 20 minute run. In fact, I think that was my longest training run before the race. I was majorly worried about finishing, but the adrenaline from the race carried me. I bet if you slowed that pace down, you could run it pretty easy now.

(Holy crap, I think this is the first time I've ever given advice in this tread. I'm definitely no expert, but I remember feeling just the way you are describing.)

Fast forward 2 years:

Icon,

I did an ultra intermediate program before my first 50k a couple of months back. Like you, I struggled blah blah blah...

 

[[icon]]

Awesome. Only 2 more weeks (6-7 running sessions) to get ready for the 4 miler. I was dying after 2 miles last friday... I REALLY hope temps cool down over the next two weeks. This is going to suck if it's in the upper 90s and humid still :(

Icon,

I did a C25K program before my first 5k a couple of years back. Like you, I struggled a week or so before the race in finishing the first non-stop 20 minute run. In fact, I think that was my longest training run before the race. I was majorly worried about finishing, but the adrenaline from the race carried me. I bet if you slowed that pace down, you could run it pretty easy now.

(Holy crap, I think this is the first time I've ever given advice in this tread. I'm definitely no expert, but I remember feeling just the way you are describing.)

Fast forward 2 years:

Icon,

I did an ultra intermediate program before my first 50k a couple of months back. Like you, I struggled blah blah blah...

Thanks guys... I know I keep saying it but this thread is invaluable. You guys rock.

 

[sho nuff]

Funny article buddy shared.... Why runners are jerks:

http://guyspeed.com/runners-are-jerks/?trackback=fbshare



Oh... and I'm not only coming down with a cold, but the expected high for my long day this week (friday) is 98.

Awesome. Only 2 more weeks (6-7 running sessions) to get ready for the 4 miler. I was dying after 2 miles last friday... I REALLY hope temps cool down over the next two weeks. This is going to suck if it's in the upper 90s and humid still :(

Drink a slush right before you go out running. It works incredibly well to help keep your core temperature low.

That or a popsicle always helped me on those hot morings to get the core temp started low.

 

[prosopis]

Hock-Congrats on the PR !!!

Grue- Good luck, I really hope the weather takes a turn in your favor.

I did a 5.5 mile tempo run today. My 8 mile race is in 1 week. This is the race with the killer hills. It is still hot as hell here. usually in the 80s at sunrise. I plan on doing some hill work tomorrow and then just doing some easy runs before the race. I am sort of on the fence regarding a long run on Saturday. I think an easy recovery 9 miles would be ok. I am pretty sure I would be good to go on Monday.

My goal is to beat last years PR. I am not sure what that is off the top of my head but I will peek at it before Monday.

Edit- I had to go see my previous times

2011- 10:50 pace

2012- 9:49 pace

So my goal is to beat 9:49

 

[beer 302]

Hock-Congrats on the PR !!!

Grue- Good luck, I really hope the weather takes a turn in your favor.

I did a 5.5 mile tempo run today. My 8 mile race is in 1 week. This is the race with the killer hills. It is still hot as hell here. usually in the 80s at sunrise. I plan on doing some hill work tomorrow and then just doing some easy runs before the race. I am sort of on the fence regarding a long run on Saturday. I think an easy recovery 9 miles would be ok. I am pretty sure I would be good to go on Monday.

My goal is to beat last years PR. I am not sure what that is off the top of my head but I will peek at it before Monday.

Edit- I had to go see my previous times

2011- 10:50 pace

2012- 9:49 pace

So my goal is to beat 9:49

If I recall, this is the hill that is your nemesis, correct? 3rd year in, you should know it well enough to kick it's ###, looking forward to another PR!

So after 5 weeks off I told the physical therapist I have a 5k I need to run in October to try and get some idea of when I can get back out on the streets.She told me her plan is to get me running again sometime in September. The ankle is still off & on but getting better (PTTD). It gets tight as well as my achilles/calf now from the different exercises I'm doing trying to strengthen the ankle. Patience sucks

 

[parasaurolophus]

Had a very light mileage week last week due to hip soreness and vacation. Ran 4,5,3, and 6. With the 6 being in Orlando in a suck index that I dont even want to know. It started drizzling and I just wanted it to stop raining because it was evaporating off the pavement and made it like running in a steam shower. I had wanted to run 10 miles, but it was just too thick for me. Went to the fitness center to finish up on a treadmill and I was so wet I took three steps in and could tell I was leaving a drip trail. Decided to abort and go cool down back at the room. Had some guilt leaving my wife and son so it was fine.

Hip feels much better and I am ready to push it back up. I am heading to New York this weekend and looking forward to a nice long run throughout the city. I am a bit nervous about getting stuck in some bad areas and crowded streets etc, but should be fun and should take my mind off of the grind. I guess I can officially call myself a runner now that the thing I am looking forward to most about a city I have never been to is going for a run there. Wife is all about it too as she plans to go shopping while I am running. So no guilt.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Hock-Congrats on the PR !!!

Grue- Good luck, I really hope the weather takes a turn in your favor.

I did a 5.5 mile tempo run today. My 8 mile race is in 1 week. This is the race with the killer hills. It is still hot as hell here. usually in the 80s at sunrise. I plan on doing some hill work tomorrow and then just doing some easy runs before the race. I am sort of on the fence regarding a long run on Saturday. I think an easy recovery 9 miles would be ok. I am pretty sure I would be good to go on Monday.

My goal is to beat last years PR. I am not sure what that is off the top of my head but I will peek at it before Monday.

Edit- I had to go see my previous times

2011- 10:50 pace

2012- 9:49 pace

So my goal is to beat 9:49

Is the race on Sunday? I don't think any of us would recommend a 9 mile run on Saturday -- even at "recovery" pace.

Edit: I'll bet it's on Monday....forgot about the holiday!! Still, I think you should only do light running (if any) the few days before the race.

 

[Hang 10]

Hock-Congrats on the PR !!!

Grue- Good luck, I really hope the weather takes a turn in your favor.

I did a 5.5 mile tempo run today. My 8 mile race is in 1 week. This is the race with the killer hills. It is still hot as hell here. usually in the 80s at sunrise. I plan on doing some hill work tomorrow and then just doing some easy runs before the race. I am sort of on the fence regarding a long run on Saturday. I think an easy recovery 9 miles would be ok. I am pretty sure I would be good to go on Monday.

My goal is to beat last years PR. I am not sure what that is off the top of my head but I will peek at it before Monday.

Edit- I had to go see my previous times

2011- 10:50 pace

2012- 9:49 pace

So my goal is to beat 9:49

Is the race on Sunday? I don't think any of us would recommend a 9 mile run on Saturday -- even at "recovery" pace.

Edit: I'll bet it's on Monday....forgot about the holiday!! Still, I think you should only do light running (if any) the few days before the race.

A 9 mile recovery run? I hope he's training for something other than this 8 mile race.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Successful start to my son's XC season yesterday. They had a scrimmage yesterday (everyone runs one race) against another school to establish who will run varsity and who will run JV at their first invitational on Friday. IMO, he ran a perfectly executed race. For Friday's event, they will run 10 varsity vs. the normal 7. His goal, was to go top 7 just to see where he stands in relation to the rest of the team. For the entire race, he just kept within range of #6 on his team and kept #8 on his back (and ran mile splits within 8 seconds of each other for the entire 5K). He has huge confidence in his kick, so he reeled in #6 with about 150 yards to go and blew him away with the kick (separating by about 20 yards at the finish). This put his 6th on his team and 11th in the event OA. Due to hills and a ton of switch backs, this was a very slow course; 18:20 was the winning time. My son ran a 20:35, which he is pleased with, both with where he placed and because this was the first run for him (EVER) in XC spikes and he had no idea what to expect. I think I was way more nervous than him and, with him running his first big invitational as varsity (and Friday's is HUGE) I am going to be a wreck.

As for me, I think I am burnt out. Not a "woes is me" burnout, but rather a work stress/A race complete kind of burnout. I have not had a good/comfortable workout since the 5K swim that was followed up by a tougher than expected mud run less than a week later (I missed doing a Race Report on this one, Cliff's Notes: there were 3,100 racers, my son, sister and I ran together finishing 37th, 38th & 39th OA. My apologies to my FB friends that had to see the costumes, but we did win the Bad ### Costume award). I ran 4.5 miles on Saturday and my pacing was all over the map silly and I never felt right. Sunday's 1,500 yard swim felt like I was swimming in pudding and just a 1,500 made me a bit fatigued for the 4 mile kayak I did after. I did a slow 4 mile run yesterday and was achy. Debating doing a sprint tri this weekend (and if I should do the 2 mile kayak 1st leg or the 500 yard swim-different events). I like to race just to race, but am also thinking some rest may do me some good.

Huge for TM and Grue (if u race) this weekend. Great work going on here.

 

[Sand]

followed up by a tougher than expected mud run less than a week later (I missed doing a Race Report on this one, Cliff's Notes: there were 3,100 racers, my son, sister and I ran together finishing 37th, 38th & 39th OA. My apologies to my FB friends that had to see the costumes, but we did win the Bad ### Costume award).

I'm more disappointed in the lack of pics. All those costumes and you couldn't find anything postworthy? Bah humbug!

I, on the other hand, have found what I think is the best random picture from a tri bike leg. Enjoy. No pictures of me to be found, though really you don't want to see my fat ### anyways.

 

[koby925]

Very cool report on your son, 2Young. Good luck to him. Wouldn't be surprised to see him be one of the varsity scorers (top 5 on team) this year. Keep the reports coming!

 

[FUBAR]

Looking at nutrition, for both training and HIM/IM events...

So far, I've been using sports beans and gu gel and powergel. I'm not a fan of the beans, so I'll probably just finish what I have and not buy more.

I don't notice a big difference between the powergel and the gu, although powergel seems to be cheaper. I have more than half of a 24 pack (1x caffeine, strawberry banana) left, so I'll probably just use these.

But I also want something more substantive for the bike portion. Cliff bars have been pretty good, as have powerbars, but is there an advantage to using chomps or Powerbar energy blasts?

I also use a gatorade mix and will carry salt packets when it's hotter.

I had used perpetuem in a marathon a few years back, wasn't bad in training but (and maybe we did something wrong) it actually made 3 of the 4 of us sick during the marathon on a 80 degree day. I'm on the fence as to bringing this back for the bike.

What do you use for your 4-6 hour events?

ETA: also looking to buy a aerodrink, something like http://www.amazon.com/Profile-Design-Aero-Drink-System/dp/B001A0CGII/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1377622818&sr=1-7&keywords=aero+bottle+bike

 

[FUBAR]

as a side note, I just noticed the start date of this thread. 6 years ago. Nice. to put that into perspective, I'll be retired in 6 years...

 

[2Young2BBald]

Very cool report on your son, 2Young. Good luck to him. Wouldn't be surprised to see him be one of the varsity scorers (top 5 on team) this year. Keep the reports coming!

Will do. You and the other HS/College runners have been an incredible resource for me to give him all kinds of solid tips and pointers!!!

 

[2Young2BBald]

Looking at nutrition, for both training and HIM/IM events...

So far, I've been using sports beans and gu gel and powergel. I'm not a fan of the beans, so I'll probably just finish what I have and not buy more.

I don't notice a big difference between the powergel and the gu, although powergel seems to be cheaper. I have more than half of a 24 pack (1x caffeine, strawberry banana) left, so I'll probably just use these.

But I also want something more substantive for the bike portion. Cliff bars have been pretty good, as have powerbars, but is there an advantage to using chomps or Powerbar energy blasts?

I also use a gatorade mix and will carry salt packets when it's hotter.

I had used perpetuem in a marathon a few years back, wasn't bad in training but (and maybe we did something wrong) it actually made 3 of the 4 of us sick during the marathon on a 80 degree day. I'm on the fence as to bringing this back for the bike.

What do you use for your 4-6 hour events?

ETA: also looking to buy a aerodrink, something like http://www.amazon.com/Profile-Design-Aero-Drink-System/dp/B001A0CGII/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1377622818&sr=1-7&keywords=aero+bottle+bike

Have you tried Hammer Gels? GU makes my stomach turn. I can take the Hammer Gels all day with zero negative impacts. And, I love the taste of the Apple/Cinnamon and the Montana Huckleberry. For both HIMs and the two 10-leg survival tris (which took around 5 hours), I was right about a Gel an hour on average. I also did flat Coke at the half point of my last HIM and about 3/4ths into each survival tri. It seems to set the stomach right. For the survival tris, they have a buffet of stuff. I found that I like to take my gel right before a water stop and sip water and eat a few pretzels, making sure I had one last swig of water and did not end up dry mouthed. I have a similar version of that aero-drink bottle and like it just fine. But, if I were to do it over again, I'd get one that has two compartments; one for water and one for sports drink. For the HIMs I did HEED in the aero drink and had two water bottles in cages.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Looking at nutrition, for both training and HIM/IM events...

So far, I've been using sports beans and gu gel and powergel. I'm not a fan of the beans, so I'll probably just finish what I have and not buy more.

I don't notice a big difference between the powergel and the gu, although powergel seems to be cheaper. I have more than half of a 24 pack (1x caffeine, strawberry banana) left, so I'll probably just use these.

But I also want something more substantive for the bike portion. Cliff bars have been pretty good, as have powerbars, but is there an advantage to using chomps or Powerbar energy blasts?

I also use a gatorade mix and will carry salt packets when it's hotter.

I had used perpetuem in a marathon a few years back, wasn't bad in training but (and maybe we did something wrong) it actually made 3 of the 4 of us sick during the marathon on a 80 degree day. I'm on the fence as to bringing this back for the bike.

What do you use for your 4-6 hour events?

ETA: also looking to buy a aerodrink, something like http://www.amazon.com/Profile-Design-Aero-Drink-System/dp/B001A0CGII/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1377622818&sr=1-7&keywords=aero+bottle+bike

I really like the taste of the gatorade chews. I sweat like a maniac so I need the sodium.

 

[FUBAR]

Looking at nutrition, for both training and HIM/IM events...

So far, I've been using sports beans and gu gel and powergel. I'm not a fan of the beans, so I'll probably just finish what I have and not buy more.

I don't notice a big difference between the powergel and the gu, although powergel seems to be cheaper. I have more than half of a 24 pack (1x caffeine, strawberry banana) left, so I'll probably just use these.

But I also want something more substantive for the bike portion. Cliff bars have been pretty good, as have powerbars, but is there an advantage to using chomps or Powerbar energy blasts?

I also use a gatorade mix and will carry salt packets when it's hotter.

I had used perpetuem in a marathon a few years back, wasn't bad in training but (and maybe we did something wrong) it actually made 3 of the 4 of us sick during the marathon on a 80 degree day. I'm on the fence as to bringing this back for the bike.

What do you use for your 4-6 hour events?

ETA: also looking to buy a aerodrink, something like http://www.amazon.com/Profile-Design-Aero-Drink-System/dp/B001A0CGII/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1377622818&sr=1-7&keywords=aero+bottle+bike

Have you tried Hammer Gels? GU makes my stomach turn. I can take the Hammer Gels all day with zero negative impacts. And, I love the taste of the Apple/Cinnamon and the Montana Huckleberry. For both HIMs and the two 10-leg survival tris (which took around 5 hours), I was right about a Gel an hour on average. I also did flat Coke at the half point of my last HIM and about 3/4ths into each survival tri. It seems to set the stomach right. For the survival tris, they have a buffet of stuff. I found that I like to take my gel right before a water stop and sip water and eat a few pretzels, making sure I had one last swig of water and did not end up dry mouthed. I have a similar version of that aero-drink bottle and like it just fine. But, if I were to do it over again, I'd get one that has two compartments; one for water and one for sports drink. For the HIMs I did HEED in the aero drink and had two water bottles in cages.

Thanks.

that bottle looks bulky to me. Is it? Does it matter?

 

[2Young2BBald]

Looking at nutrition, for both training and HIM/IM events...

So far, I've been using sports beans and gu gel and powergel. I'm not a fan of the beans, so I'll probably just finish what I have and not buy more.

I don't notice a big difference between the powergel and the gu, although powergel seems to be cheaper. I have more than half of a 24 pack (1x caffeine, strawberry banana) left, so I'll probably just use these.

But I also want something more substantive for the bike portion. Cliff bars have been pretty good, as have powerbars, but is there an advantage to using chomps or Powerbar energy blasts?

I also use a gatorade mix and will carry salt packets when it's hotter.

I had used perpetuem in a marathon a few years back, wasn't bad in training but (and maybe we did something wrong) it actually made 3 of the 4 of us sick during the marathon on a 80 degree day. I'm on the fence as to bringing this back for the bike.

What do you use for your 4-6 hour events?

ETA: also looking to buy a aerodrink, something like http://www.amazon.com/Profile-Design-Aero-Drink-System/dp/B001A0CGII/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1377622818&sr=1-7&keywords=aero+bottle+bike

Have you tried Hammer Gels? GU makes my stomach turn. I can take the Hammer Gels all day with zero negative impacts. And, I love the taste of the Apple/Cinnamon and the Montana Huckleberry. For both HIMs and the two 10-leg survival tris (which took around 5 hours), I was right about a Gel an hour on average. I also did flat Coke at the half point of my last HIM and about 3/4ths into each survival tri. It seems to set the stomach right. For the survival tris, they have a buffet of stuff. I found that I like to take my gel right before a water stop and sip water and eat a few pretzels, making sure I had one last swig of water and did not end up dry mouthed. I have a similar version of that aero-drink bottle and like it just fine. But, if I were to do it over again, I'd get one that has two compartments; one for water and one for sports drink. For the HIMs I did HEED in the aero drink and had two water bottles in cages.

Thanks.

that bottle looks bulky to me. Is it? Does it matter?

What you give up in wind resistance, I would think you'd make up in not having to break aero to grab a bottle from a cage. And, as I recall, they also make them with a smaller gel reservoir that you can fill with Hammer Gel from bottles. Like anything else on the bike, you can go nuts with spending on gear. The aero drink by profile is fine. Oh, and be sure to save some of those thinker rubber bands if you go the profile route. Depending on the set up of your aerobars, you'll need to band things in place and I found the two that come with the kit aren't enough (and get old, crack and split after a while).

 

[koby925]

Very cool report on your son, 2Young. Good luck to him. Wouldn't be surprised to see him be one of the varsity scorers (top 5 on team) this year. Keep the reports coming!

Will do. You and the other HS/College runners have been an incredible resource for me to give him all kinds of solid tips and pointers!!!

Glad to help in any way. You will have an advantage over the other parents at XC meets because you will be able to run around and see more of the race. See if you can see a map of the course ahead of time and you can often run around and pick spots where you can cheer other than just the start/finish. XC meets are usually set up better for this than road races.

 

[Sand]

Looking at nutrition, for both training and HIM/IM events...

So far, I've been using sports beans and gu gel and powergel. I'm not a fan of the beans, so I'll probably just finish what I have and not buy more.

I don't notice a big difference between the powergel and the gu, although powergel seems to be cheaper. I have more than half of a 24 pack (1x caffeine, strawberry banana) left, so I'll probably just use these.

But I also want something more substantive for the bike portion. Cliff bars have been pretty good, as have powerbars, but is there an advantage to using chomps or Powerbar energy blasts?

I also use a gatorade mix and will carry salt packets when it's hotter.

I had used perpetuem in a marathon a few years back, wasn't bad in training but (and maybe we did something wrong) it actually made 3 of the 4 of us sick during the marathon on a 80 degree day. I'm on the fence as to bringing this back for the bike.

What do you use for your 4-6 hour events?

ETA: also looking to buy a aerodrink, something like http://www.amazon.com/Profile-Design-Aero-Drink-System/dp/B001A0CGII/ref=sr_1_7?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1377622818&sr=1-7&keywords=aero+bottle+bike

Have you tried Hammer Gels? GU makes my stomach turn. I can take the Hammer Gels all day with zero negative impacts. And, I love the taste of the Apple/Cinnamon and the Montana Huckleberry. For both HIMs and the two 10-leg survival tris (which took around 5 hours), I was right about a Gel an hour on average. I also did flat Coke at the half point of my last HIM and about 3/4ths into each survival tri. It seems to set the stomach right. For the survival tris, they have a buffet of stuff. I found that I like to take my gel right before a water stop and sip water and eat a few pretzels, making sure I had one last swig of water and did not end up dry mouthed. I have a similar version of that aero-drink bottle and like it just fine. But, if I were to do it over again, I'd get one that has two compartments; one for water and one for sports drink. For the HIMs I did HEED in the aero drink and had two water bottles in cages.

Thanks.

that bottle looks bulky to me. Is it? Does it matter?

The Profile design ain't all that great for aerodynamics. The best out there is the Torhans (I have the 30). Not the cheapest thing out there, but aerodynamically the best if that is the type of hydration you are looking for.

In my Oly (which has gone unnoticed in here :sniff I used the Torhans for water and a bottle tucked away for gatorade. Worked well.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Very cool report on your son, 2Young. Good luck to him. Wouldn't be surprised to see him be one of the varsity scorers (top 5 on team) this year. Keep the reports coming!

Will do. You and the other HS/College runners have been an incredible resource for me to give him all kinds of solid tips and pointers!!!

Glad to help in any way. You will have an advantage over the other parents at XC meets because you will be able to run around and see more of the race. See if you can see a map of the course ahead of time and you can often run around and pick spots where you can cheer other than just the start/finish. XC meets are usually set up better for this than road races.

This is my favorite part and we study the maps each race. I typically pull them into Publisher and add comments, such as the projected splits he is targeting. Showing his maturity, he has respectfully let me know the "rules". He wants me to find my way to each mile marker if I can and yell out split data only if the team does not have someone doing a good job of it (no cumulative time, etc). I can also shout at anytime if I see him losing frame, hunching forward, looking down, etc. Yesterday, he reverted back to a mid race head waggle that I hadn't seen since early last year. A quick, positive shout fixed this quick. The coaches are cool with the input (I asked) and there are 3 other (insane) dads that are way more accomplished runners than I doing the same. Friday's course maps seems to reveal that if I hustle just a bit, I can have eyes on my son the entire race.

 

[2Young2BBald]

In my Oly (which has gone unnoticed in here :sniff I used the Torhans for water and a bottle tucked away for gatorade. Worked well.

Sorry, must have missed the post during my recent lurking!! Great effort, especially on a hilly course. If it would make you feel better, while you didn't beat 2:30, you best my Oly PR by 13 seconds (dead flat course and a current aided swim).