Ran a 10k in June (5 Viewers)

[2Young2BBald]

thanks guys, will let everyone know the results. i intend on having fun so no problem there. im running with a couple of friends which should help. already ridden the course a few times and run some of it. my biggest fear: 7am race time; temperature.......12 degrees

Go look through all of your old clothing and find a couple of long sleeve shirts, and/or a turtle neck that you can wear at the start and toss during the run. If you don't have one, buy a race belt for your number at the expo or a running store so you don't have to worry about what your number is pinned to. They also sell disposable paper-like sweat suits at the expos. Even if it isn't sunny, you may want to wear glasses to keep your eyes from watering.

 

[BassNBrew]

The good news is I woke up today essentially fine. A bit more tired than normal, but fine.

And a bit dehydrated, I'd suspect. Make sure you hit the Gatorade hard today.

When did sugar water become good for you?

 

[BassNBrew]

thanks guys, will let everyone know the results. i intend on having fun so no problem there. im running with a couple of friends which should help. already ridden the course a few times and run some of it. my biggest fear: 7am race time; temperature.......12 degrees

Good luck...that doesn't sound like fun. the faster you run, the warmer you will stay.

 

[jb1020]

thanks guys, will let everyone know the results. i intend on having fun so no problem there. im running with a couple of friends which should help. already ridden the course a few times and run some of it. my biggest fear: 7am race time; temperature.......12 degrees

Go look through all of your old clothing and find a couple of long sleeve shirts, and/or a turtle neck that you can wear at the start and toss during the run. If you don't have one, buy a race belt for your number at the expo or a running store so you don't have to worry about what your number is pinned to. They also sell disposable paper-like sweat suits at the expos. Even if it isn't sunny, you may want to wear glasses to keep your eyes from watering.

ive already picked out one of my many saints sweatshirts from sports illustrated to sacrifice to the race gods. good tip on the belt though. i assume your number will need to be visible at all times?

 

[2Young2BBald]

thanks guys, will let everyone know the results. i intend on having fun so no problem there. im running with a couple of friends which should help. already ridden the course a few times and run some of it. my biggest fear: 7am race time; temperature.......12 degrees

Go look through all of your old clothing and find a couple of long sleeve shirts, and/or a turtle neck that you can wear at the start and toss during the run. If you don't have one, buy a race belt for your number at the expo or a running store so you don't have to worry about what your number is pinned to. They also sell disposable paper-like sweat suits at the expos. Even if it isn't sunny, you may want to wear glasses to keep your eyes from watering.

ive already picked out one of my many saints sweatshirts from sports illustrated to sacrifice to the race gods. good tip on the belt though. i assume your number will need to be visible at all times?

Yes on the number for a couple of reasons. First, bandits (those that try and run big races without paying) suck and most big races will yank them. Second, you are going to want to mug for the cameras and your number is the way they catch you on film (Its OK to be a camera ho).

 

[Sand]

thanks guys, will let everyone know the results. i intend on having fun so no problem there. im running with a couple of friends which should help. already ridden the course a few times and run some of it.

my biggest fear: 7am race time; temperature.......12 degrees

Go look through all of your old clothing and find a couple of long sleeve shirts, and/or a turtle neck that you can wear at the start and toss during the run. If you don't have one, buy a race belt for your number at the expo or a running store so you don't have to worry about what your number is pinned to. They also sell disposable paper-like sweat suits at the expos. Even if it isn't sunny, you may want to wear glasses to keep your eyes from watering.

ive already picked out one of my many saints sweatshirts from sports illustrated to sacrifice to the race gods. good tip on the belt though. i assume your number will need to be visible at all times?

You heathen! To even think of "sacrificing" a Saints sweatshirt is beyond the pale. Those are to be revered, hermetically sealed, and stored for future generations.BTW, my race this weekend it is looking like about 10 degrees at start time. Ugh. Figuring on wearing tights, shorts, and three layers of tech shirts. I may look like a doosh, but I'm definitely wearing sunglasses - my eyes will water if not.

 

[gruecd]

There will likely be a few folks that will disagree with 2 days of no running before the race, but I am with you on this. I would think about a 2 to 3 mile walk, though, 2 days out.

I would be one of those guys that disagrees.I've done 9 marathons, and I absolutely, 110% believe that it's best to do a super easy 2-3 mile "shake-out" run the day before the race. I can't speak for everybody, but I know that this is pretty typical among my marathoner friends.But as always, just my .

 

[jb1020]

thanks guys, will let everyone know the results. i intend on having fun so no problem there. im running with a couple of friends which should help. already ridden the course a few times and run some of it.

my biggest fear: 7am race time; temperature.......12 degrees

Go look through all of your old clothing and find a couple of long sleeve shirts, and/or a turtle neck that you can wear at the start and toss during the run. If you don't have one, buy a race belt for your number at the expo or a running store so you don't have to worry about what your number is pinned to. They also sell disposable paper-like sweat suits at the expos. Even if it isn't sunny, you may want to wear glasses to keep your eyes from watering.

ive already picked out one of my many saints sweatshirts from sports illustrated to sacrifice to the race gods. good tip on the belt though. i assume your number will need to be visible at all times?

You heathen! To even think of "sacrificing" a Saints sweatshirt is beyond the pale. Those are to be revered, hermetically sealed, and stored for future generations.BTW, my race this weekend it is looking like about 10 degrees at start time. Ugh. Figuring on wearing tights, shorts, and three layers of tech shirts. I may look like a doosh, but I'm definitely wearing sunglasses - my eyes will water if not.

ha, i might change my mind to a ratty long sleeve, but trust me....these saint sweat shirts are the crummy ones sports illustrated sends you for renewing. they tell me i can get it back, but just in case i can part with this one.

 

[culdeus]

Link

New York, NY, January 4, 2010 -- Knee osteoarthritis (OA) accounts for more disability in the elderly than any other disease. Running, although it has proven cardiovascular and other health benefits, can increase stresses on the joints of the leg. In a study published in the December 2009 issue of PM&R: The journal of injury, function and rehabilitation, researchers compared the effects on knee, hip and ankle joint motions of running barefoot versus running in modern running shoes. They concluded that running shoes exerted more stress on these joints compared to running barefoot or walking in high-heeled shoes.

Sixty-eight healthy young adult runners (37 women), who run in typical, currently available running shoes, were selected from the general population. None had any history of musculoskeletal injury and each ran at least 15 miles per week. A running shoe, selected for its neutral classification and design characteristics typical of most running footwear, was provided to all runners. Using a treadmill and a motion analysis system, each subject was observed running barefoot and with shoes. Data were collected at each runner's comfortable running pace after a warm-up period.

The researchers observed increased joint torques at the hip, knee and ankle with running shoes compared with running barefoot. Disproportionately large increases were observed in the hip internal rotation torque and in the knee flexion and knee varus torques. An average 54% increase in the hip internal rotation torque, a 36% increase in knee flexion torque, and a 38% increase in knee varus torque were measured when running in running shoes compared with barefoot.

These findings confirm that while the typical construction of modern-day running shoes provides good support and protection of the foot itself, one negative effect is the increased stress on each of the 3 lower extremity joints. These increases are likely caused in large part by an elevated heel and increased material under the medial arch, both characteristic of today's running shoes.

Writing in the article, lead author D. Casey Kerrigan, MD, JKM Technologies LLC, Charlottesville, VA, and co-investigators state, "Remarkably, the effect of running shoes on knee joint torques during running (36%-38% increase) that the authors observed here is even greater than the effect that was reported earlier of high-heeled shoes during walking (20%-26% increase). Considering that lower extremity joint loading is of a significantly greater magnitude during running than is experienced during walking, the current findings indeed represent substantial biomechanical changes." Dr. Kerrigan concludes, "Reducing joint torques with footwear completely to that of barefoot running, while providing meaningful footwear functions, especially compliance, should be the goal of new footwear designs."

The article is "The Effect of Running Shoes on Lower Extremity Joint Torques" by D. Casey Kerrigan, MD, Jason R. Franz, MS, Geoffrey S. Keenan, MD, Jay Dicharry, MPT, Ugo Della Croce, PhD, and Robert P. Wilder, MD. It appears in PM&R: The journal of injury, function and rehabilitation, Volume 1, Issue 12 (December 2009), published by Elsevier.

The article has been made freely available and may be accessed at: http://www.pmrjournal.org/article/S1934-14...1367-7/fulltext

 

[gruecd]

Hey, guys. Followed up yesterday morning's easy 8-miler with an unintentionally fast 8-miler this afternoon. Averaged 7:28 pace, and I was relatively consistent, with every mile between 7:22 and 7:33.

Tonight I'm headed to the annual kick-off party for the Cellcom Green Bay Marathon. My good friend Sean Ryan is the race director and does an awesome job with this race, as Keggers can attest. There will be a highlight video from last year along with an overview of the 2010 event, and the guest speaker will be Bill Rodgers. Those of you in the Midwest should really consider it. It's a blast.

Peace, out.

 

[Sand]

The article has been made freely available and may be accessed at: http://www.pmrjournal.org/article/S1934-14...1367-7/fulltext

Interesting. They do note that these results come from inferred stresses based on gait analysis rather than actual measured stresses. However, I would love to hear an explanation of where this added energy goes. It evidently does not go into more forward motion, so where does it go? I have a hard time believing that a 40% increase in some of these measured torque forces have no effect on running speed.

 

[Sand]

Dilemna:

I have a pair of shoes that are getting long in the tooth. This weekend I developed a blister from what I thought was thick socks. Tonight I aggravated the blister somewhat. Turns out I have worn through a bit of the slick fabric in the bottom of my shoe. This is where it gets sticky. I have a race Saturday. I don't have any more runs planned. I can get more shoes, but they don't make the style I have anymore. I am left with the choices of: Bodygliding the snot out of that foot and shoe and hope it holds or go get a new set of shoes and have my first run be a 10 mile race.

Which would you do?

 

[2Young2BBald]

Dilemna:I have a pair of shoes that are getting long in the tooth. This weekend I developed a blister from what I thought was thick socks. Tonight I aggravated the blister somewhat. Turns out I have worn through a bit of the slick fabric in the bottom of my shoe. This is where it gets sticky. I have a race Saturday. I don't have any more runs planned. I can get more shoes, but they don't make the style I have anymore. I am left with the choices of: Bodygliding the snot out of that foot and shoe and hope it holds or go get a new set of shoes and have my first run be a 10 mile race.Which would you do?

I'd go with Vasoline on the raw spot and run with the old shoes versus trying it in a new pair. Glide is good, but Vasoline is much better in my opinion. Even if new shoes are perfect, you'll be wondering the whole race if they are right. Whereas, the old ones got you there and mentally you know they'll be alright. New Skin on the blister before the Vasoline will keep the blisters down a bit too.

 

[gruecd]

Dilemna:

I have a pair of shoes that are getting long in the tooth. This weekend I developed a blister from what I thought was thick socks. Tonight I aggravated the blister somewhat. Turns out I have worn through a bit of the slick fabric in the bottom of my shoe. This is where it gets sticky. I have a race Saturday. I don't have any more runs planned. I can get more shoes, but they don't make the style I have anymore. I am left with the choices of: Bodygliding the snot out of that foot and shoe and hope it holds or go get a new set of shoes and have my first run be a 10 mile race.

Which would you do?

I'd get the new shoes. Just go to a specialty running store, bring along your old shoes, and tell the guy you want something comparable. And most importantly, do a nice, easy 2-mile jog in them on Friday just to make sure they don't cause you any problems.

 

[gruecd]

Damn it, 2Young, quit disagreeing with me!



P.S. You're missing a race on your race schedule. (Hint: It's in August.)

 

[Sand]

Dilemna:

I have a pair of shoes that are getting long in the tooth. This weekend I developed a blister from what I thought was thick socks. Tonight I aggravated the blister somewhat. Turns out I have worn through a bit of the slick fabric in the bottom of my shoe. This is where it gets sticky. I have a race Saturday. I don't have any more runs planned. I can get more shoes, but they don't make the style I have anymore. I am left with the choices of: Bodygliding the snot out of that foot and shoe and hope it holds or go get a new set of shoes and have my first run be a 10 mile race.

Which would you do?

I'd get the new shoes. Just go to a specialty running store, bring along your old shoes, and tell the guy you want something comparable. And most importantly, do a nice, easy 2-mile jog in them on Friday just to make sure they don't cause you any problems.

Hmmm. I'm going to go get new shoes no matter what. It can't hurt to do an easy run on Friday to see if they work, I guess.I run in Brooks Adrenalines. They have a new version (GT10) that are evidently different than the 9s, which is what I have.

 

[BassNBrew]

Slowly getting back into the groove.

Jan 1: 6.2 miles in 1:02:12, 158 HR, 1033 cal, 10:01 pace. 9:43 pace, 154 HR out and 10:21 pace, 162 HR back. Ice, snow, and climbing over downed trees impacted the pace. Also downhill out and up back, but I ran a decent positive split.

Jan 2: 3.1 miles in 24:17 on an indoor track. splits were 8:00 pace no HR data, 7:54 pace and 157 HR, 7:48 pace and 153, 0:37 and 165 HR. I'm left wondering if their advertised distance is off. Weights - chest.

Jan 5: Logged an hour on the computrainer doing a puke fest interval workout above threshold.

Jan 6: 6.2 miles in 58:18, 9:24 pace, 148 HR. Splits were 9:09 pace and 138 HR out, 9:38 pace and 157 HR back. I like to see a positive split on these runs, but the difference here was related to conditioning and brutalizing the legs on the bike last nite. Tonite I hit chest and legs in the gym and then did a 1.5 mile run on the dreadmill. Pace was roughly 15 min. For whatever reason, I'm about 20% slower on the hamster wheel.

No promises, but tomorrow may be the first swim in 4 months.

On a plus note, I weighed in at 237 on Jan 2. Today I hit 231.

My New Year's resolution is no beer until I hit 205. The thing keeping me motivated is realizing I'll be about a minute per mile faster at that weight without considering the training effect.

 

[Sand]

My New Year's resolution is no beer until I hit 205. The thing keeping me motivated is realizing I'll be about a minute per mile faster at that weight without considering the training effect.

And the work you do to get down to 205 will make you even faster than that.

 

[pmbrown_22]

Well we had the CT Scan yesterday. No results yet, but hopefully later today we will hear something.

With all of this, I have still been running. Albeit a little slow because of coming off being sick and all the snow on the ground. It is still nice to get back into the grove and hit the pavement. I have run 4, 5, and 4 miles the last couple days. I am thinking that since I am running so slow, I may have to adjust my goals for the first marathon, but I can adjust as I go and see how it works out.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Damn it, 2Young, quit disagreeing with me!



P.S. You're missing a race on your race schedule. (Hint: It's in August.)

I may need to coin the term "layrunner" and qualify my running posts from the layperson/layrunner position (as that they may not reflect that of the masses).While I have had a pair of shoes (and Brooks too) be out of the box comfortable, I don't think my brain could take the mental side of thinking about what might happen, versus taking steps to avoid a blister, which I have tried before.

As for Chicago, yeah, yeah, I know..... The real issue is not a matter of wanting to be there, but rather that I can't sign up in April with the coupon code like we did last year. I'd likely not know until after the 1/2 IM on 7/10 if I'd be able to do it and by that time, it'd be either over $100, sold out or both!

 

[gruecd]

As for Chicago, yeah, yeah, I know..... The real issue is not a matter of wanting to be there, but rather that I can't sign up in April with the coupon code like we did last year. I'd likely not know until after the 1/2 IM on 7/10 if I'd be able to do it and by that time, it'd be either over $100, sold out or both!

Yeah, I get it. I'm just giving you crap. Speaking of coupon codes, has anyone seen one yet? Wraith? Tri-man?

 

[Keggers]

Hey, guys. Followed up yesterday morning's easy 8-miler with an unintentionally fast 8-miler this afternoon. Averaged 7:28 pace, and I was relatively consistent, with every mile between 7:22 and 7:33.

Tonight I'm headed to the annual kick-off party for the Cellcom Green Bay Marathon. My good friend Sean Ryan is the race director and does an awesome job with this race, as Keggers can attest. There will be a highlight video from last year along with an overview of the 2010 event, and the guest speaker will be Bill Rodgers. Those of you in the Midwest should really consider it. It's a blast.

Peace, out.

I concur, Mr. Ryan does an excellent with the race. I ran it last year and already signed up for this year's!Being unemployed... Having a lot of time to train....

Good luck to those who are racing this weekend!!!

 

[Third]

Dilemna:

I have a pair of shoes that are getting long in the tooth. This weekend I developed a blister from what I thought was thick socks. Tonight I aggravated the blister somewhat. Turns out I have worn through a bit of the slick fabric in the bottom of my shoe. This is where it gets sticky. I have a race Saturday. I don't have any more runs planned. I can get more shoes, but they don't make the style I have anymore. I am left with the choices of: Bodygliding the snot out of that foot and shoe and hope it holds or go get a new set of shoes and have my first run be a 10 mile race.

Which would you do?

I'd get the new shoes. Just go to a specialty running store, bring along your old shoes, and tell the guy you want something comparable. And most importantly, do a nice, easy 2-mile jog in them on Friday just to make sure they don't cause you any problems.

Hmmm. I'm going to go get new shoes no matter what. It can't hurt to do an easy run on Friday to see if they work, I guess.I run in Brooks Adrenalines. They have a new version (GT10) that are evidently different than the 9s, which is what I have.

Good chance you can still find the 9s. They may even have some in stock at your shop.

 

[culdeus]

The article has been made freely available and may be accessed at: http://www.pmrjournal.org/article/S1934-14...1367-7/fulltext

Interesting. They do note that these results come from inferred stresses based on gait analysis rather than actual measured stresses. However, I would love to hear an explanation of where this added energy goes. It evidently does not go into more forward motion, so where does it go? I have a hard time believing that a 40% increase in some of these measured torque forces have no effect on running speed.

Probably a considerable amount of energy goes to fighting gravity.This article probably will get dismissed as propaganda for 5-fingers and other radical designs. Still, it's something to consider for long term health.

 

[tri-man 47]

My New Year's resolution is no beer until I hit 205. The thing keeping me motivated is realizing I'll be about a minute per mile faster at that weight without considering the training effect.

Good goal, gruecd! Oh, wait ...Sand - I think it's OK to get the new shoes. Try a couple miles, as discussed, and if you feel a friction point, you could Glide it or (for a toe) put on a bandaid.

 

[Third]

Did an easy 4 miles last night. It was supposed to be a "recovery" run in between my speedwork and tempo run, but I felt really good and just ran at a comfortable pace. I have a 4-mile tempo run today and a 9-mile long run on Sunday. I really feel like running everyday now, though. I guess conventional wisdom is that I need some rest - and I'm sure it would catch up with me - but I just want to get out there everyday.

I'm almost finished with Ultramarathon Man - the first Dean Karnazes book. Very inspiring stuff. I'll probably never have a desire to run a 100-mile race, but it sure does keep my training in perspective. Hard to complain about 8-mile run after reading about this guy running 100 miles through the night (18 hours) to the starting line of a marathon, then running the marathon in 3:15. Just mind-boggling stuff.

 

[gruecd]

Good goal, gruecd! Oh, wait ...

Nice. I do want to lose a little bit of weight before Boston. I'm 214 right now, and I'd like to race Boston around 208. Not too worried, though. Once I start ramping up the mileage, those six pounds will melt right off.And there's no way in hell that I'm giving up beer. Sorry.

 

[gruecd]

Did an easy 4 miles last night. It was supposed to be a "recovery" run in between my speedwork and tempo run, but I felt really good and just ran at a comfortable pace. I have a 4-mile tempo run today and a 9-mile long run on Sunday. I really feel like running everyday now, though. I guess conventional wisdom is that I need some rest - and I'm sure it would catch up with me - but I just want to get out there everyday.

I typically run six days per week, setting aside one day for rest/cross-training. Sometimes during the heavy part of marathon training, I'll go to a ten-day cycle, i.e. ten straight days of running, and then a rest day.

 

[jonmhend]

Officially back into it. Ran 12.5 last night - mostly to boost confidence. Kept a slightly faster pace than the 1/2 I ran a month ago. The plan is to get in a 8 miler on Friday, a 10 miler on Sunday and then nothing longer than 6 prior to the 1/2 on the 17th. I don't think I've really added much speed, but I think I'll finish +/- 2 min from my time in early December.

Here is a question for everyone, how many miles are you guys getting out of your shoes before they need to be replaced?

When I first started in August, I went to RoadRunner and got fitted with Asics Nimbus. After about 225 miles I started to get shinsplints. Went and got another pair to rotate in. Definitely felt a difference between the 2 pairs (and it helped with the shins). Best way to describe the difference is that the first pair seemed "flat". I asked one of the sales guys and he said I would benefit from some of their custom insoles. I'm skeptical, but thought I'd ask the group. Seems like 225 miles is on the low end of what I should be able to get out of a pair of shoes.

 

[gruecd]

Here is a question for everyone, how many miles are you guys getting out of your shoes before they need to be replaced?

About 400, maybe a little less. I actually just replaced a pair of shoes in my rotation. I think the worn-out shoes were another reason I was starting to have knee problems.

 

[gruecd]

Speaking of coupon codes, has anyone seen one yet? Wraith? Tri-man?

Got it. Use "CHI2010" for $10 off. Before I go ahead and register, you two are definitely running, right??

 

[Workhorse]

Well, heading down to Orlando tomorrow for Sunday's marathon.

I'm a little concerned about the weather: 28 degrees at start time with a wind chill that will make it feel like 15 degrees.

Yikes.

 

[wraith5]

Speaking of coupon codes, has anyone seen one yet? Wraith? Tri-man?

Got it. Use "CHI2010" for $10 off. Before I go ahead and register, you two are definitely running, right??

That's my plan. It was so much fun last year I can't imagine skipping it! (hint... hint...) By the way: on the caffeine love! Got on the bike this morning for 45 minutes. the first excercise I've done in 2.5 weeks... seems like FOREVER. It's also the first time I've gotten on the bike in months. I know I was slow but I'm not concerned about that - just want to get back into a groove.

3rd Chiro appt. was today and I'm feeling much improved (but far from 100%). I'm planning on trying the treadmill this weekend (and hoping to hit the Bally's pool tomorrow).

BnB - I almost warned gruecd you were going to jump on him for the Gatorade comment.

 

[wraith5]

Well, heading down to Orlando tomorrow for Sunday's marathon.I'm a little concerned about the weather: 28 degrees at start time with a wind chill that will make it feel like 15 degrees.Yikes.

At least you won't overheat... Good luck and have fun!!! you're gonna crush it.

 

[tri-man 47]

Speaking of coupon codes, has anyone seen one yet? Wraith? Tri-man?

Got it. Use "CHI2010" for $10 off. Before I go ahead and register, you two are definitely running, right??

Yes. I don't really care about you guys ...I just want to stalk the gal with the great abs who ran the same pace as me last year. 100 minutes of pure pleasure coming my way. Shoes: I go about 400-500 before replacing (depends to some degree on the timing of upcoming races).

Workhorse - Have a great race!!! Be strong, physically and mentally.

 

[gruecd]

5 miles in the snow tonight with the Yaktrax. Nice and easy.

Workhorse - Go get 'em tiger. Cold = fast!

 

[Tecumseh]

Howdy fellas...

I've been lurking in this thread off and on for the past 6 months or so. Let me first say that I hate running. I've never been able to run well, and I plod along like a wooly mammoth. I eat too much and I smoke. So that's exactly why I want to run. Make sense?

I have no interest in meeting any kind of time. I just want to finish. All that being said...

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

I feel like I need to do something that is beyond myself. Something great. It's hard to explain, but I've been fixated on this race for months, and the obsession isn't fading, so I'm going for it.

I did my first 5k at the end of September, and then did absolutely nothing until this week. I ran/walked 3 miles on Tuesday, and 1.5 yesterday. 3 miles scheduled for Friday.

My first big test is the ING Half at the end of March. I'm following the Higdon program, so I should be ready in time. Next big milestone is possibly the Cleveland Tri in August, but my schedule may not allow that one. There will also be several 5's, 8's, and 10's interspersed throughout the year.

I'm sure I'll need some guidance as I train, so I'll be checking in here often. I also think it helps my own accountability to take this "public," so to speak. So here I am.

Good luck to all of you (and me!) on meeting your goals in '10.

 

[FishNSuds]

Howdy fellas...

I've been lurking in this thread off and on for the past 6 months or so. Let me first say that I hate running. I've never been able to run well, and I plod along like a wooly mammoth. I eat too much and I smoke. So that's exactly why I want to run. Make sense?

I have no interest in meeting any kind of time. I just want to finish. All that being said...

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

I feel like I need to do something that is beyond myself. Something great. It's hard to explain, but I've been fixated on this race for months, and the obsession isn't fading, so I'm going for it.

I did my first 5k at the end of September, and then did absolutely nothing until this week. I ran/walked 3 miles on Tuesday, and 1.5 yesterday. 3 miles scheduled for Friday.

My first big test is the ING Half at the end of March. I'm following the Higdon program, so I should be ready in time. Next big milestone is possibly the Cleveland Tri in August, but my schedule may not allow that one. There will also be several 5's, 8's, and 10's interspersed throughout the year.

I'm sure I'll need some guidance as I train, so I'll be checking in here often. I also think it helps my own accountability to take this "public," so to speak. So here I am.

Good luck to all of you (and me!) on meeting your goals in '10.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Howdy fellas...

I've been lurking in this thread off and on for the past 6 months or so. Let me first say that I hate running. I've never been able to run well, and I plod along like a wooly mammoth. I eat too much and I smoke. So that's exactly why I want to run. Make sense?

I have no interest in meeting any kind of time. I just want to finish. All that being said...

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

I feel like I need to do something that is beyond myself. Something great. It's hard to explain, but I've been fixated on this race for months, and the obsession isn't fading, so I'm going for it.

I did my first 5k at the end of September, and then did absolutely nothing until this week. I ran/walked 3 miles on Tuesday, and 1.5 yesterday. 3 miles scheduled for Friday.

My first big test is the ING Half at the end of March. I'm following the Higdon program, so I should be ready in time. Next big milestone is possibly the Cleveland Tri in August, but my schedule may not allow that one. There will also be several 5's, 8's, and 10's interspersed throughout the year.

I'm sure I'll need some guidance as I train, so I'll be checking in here often. I also think it helps my own accountability to take this "public," so to speak. So here I am.

Good luck to all of you (and me!) on meeting your goals in '10.

That is certainly bucket list material, dang. Something came to mind when reading your post. Very cool that you are thinking about a triathlon, but I wonder if Cleveland is the best fit for your first. They have a Super Sprint that is real short that I was looking at for my daughter, but we nixed the idea because all of the starts are "off the pier" jump in the water starts from what I understand. I am not sure having to jump in and swim would be best for a first time out. Just a FWIW.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Well, heading down to Orlando tomorrow for Sunday's marathon.I'm a little concerned about the weather: 28 degrees at start time with a wind chill that will make it feel like 15 degrees.Yikes.

Good luck, and more important, ENJOY and be sure to take it all in. I only did the half, but have to say, heading down Main St and then through Tomorrow Land while it was still dark out and it was all illuminated was one of the cooler stretches of any run I've done. I had these flashes of quick snapshot memories of the fun we've had there with the family. Take the time to high five a few of the characters.

 

[Tecumseh]

Howdy fellas...

I've been lurking in this thread off and on for the past 6 months or so. Let me first say that I hate running. I've never been able to run well, and I plod along like a wooly mammoth. I eat too much and I smoke. So that's exactly why I want to run. Make sense?

I have no interest in meeting any kind of time. I just want to finish. All that being said...

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

I feel like I need to do something that is beyond myself. Something great. It's hard to explain, but I've been fixated on this race for months, and the obsession isn't fading, so I'm going for it.

I did my first 5k at the end of September, and then did absolutely nothing until this week. I ran/walked 3 miles on Tuesday, and 1.5 yesterday. 3 miles scheduled for Friday.

My first big test is the ING Half at the end of March. I'm following the Higdon program, so I should be ready in time. Next big milestone is possibly the Cleveland Tri in August, but my schedule may not allow that one. There will also be several 5's, 8's, and 10's interspersed throughout the year.

I'm sure I'll need some guidance as I train, so I'll be checking in here often. I also think it helps my own accountability to take this "public," so to speak. So here I am.

Good luck to all of you (and me!) on meeting your goals in '10.

That is certainly bucket list material, dang. Something came to mind when reading your post. Very cool that you are thinking about a triathlon, but I wonder if Cleveland is the best fit for your first. They have a Super Sprint that is real short that I was looking at for my daughter, but we nixed the idea because all of the starts are "off the pier" jump in the water starts from what I understand. I am not sure having to jump in and swim would be best for a first time out. Just a FWIW.

Well, the odd thing is that, as poor as I am at running, I am a very good swimmer. So I'm actually happy with that format.

 

[Third]

Howdy fellas...

I've been lurking in this thread off and on for the past 6 months or so. Let me first say that I hate running. I've never been able to run well, and I plod along like a wooly mammoth. I eat too much and I smoke. So that's exactly why I want to run. Make sense?

I have no interest in meeting any kind of time. I just want to finish. All that being said...

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

I feel like I need to do something that is beyond myself. Something great. It's hard to explain, but I've been fixated on this race for months, and the obsession isn't fading, so I'm going for it.

I did my first 5k at the end of September, and then did absolutely nothing until this week. I ran/walked 3 miles on Tuesday, and 1.5 yesterday. 3 miles scheduled for Friday.

My first big test is the ING Half at the end of March. I'm following the Higdon program, so I should be ready in time. Next big milestone is possibly the Cleveland Tri in August, but my schedule may not allow that one. There will also be several 5's, 8's, and 10's interspersed throughout the year.

I'm sure I'll need some guidance as I train, so I'll be checking in here often. I also think it helps my own accountability to take this "public," so to speak. So here I am.

Good luck to all of you (and me!) on meeting your goals in '10.

Wow.You are dreaming big...just take your training a day at a time. Don't let anyone tell you you're crazy and can't do it.

 

[Third]

Did my tempo run last night. It was brutally cold -- wind chill was 6 degrees. I had to wear a fleece hood that left only my eyes exposed and that made breathing difficult. I had to pull down the hood periodically just to get some fresh air.

Anyway, target pace for the 4 miles was 8:15 m/m - which, for me, requires some effort. Was very pleased with mile splits of 7:55 / 7:55 / 9:00 / 8:00. That third mile always gives me fits as it has two hills and is into the wind off of a lake.

 

[tri-man 47]

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

That is certainly bucket list material, dang. Something came to mind when reading your post. Very cool that you are thinking about a triathlon, but I wonder if Cleveland is the best fit for your first. They have a Super Sprint that is real short that I was looking at for my daughter, but we nixed the idea because all of the starts are "off the pier" jump in the water starts from what I understand. I am not sure having to jump in and swim would be best for a first time out. Just a FWIW.

Well, the odd thing is that, as poor as I am at running, I am a very good swimmer. So I'm actually happy with that format.

I've done a pier start before, and while a bit funky, it's OK ..and kind of cool. All us age groupers jumped in feet first and came up (and forward quickly) swimming. Interesting goal, there! Wow, indeed. I guess that would be a HTFU,IV (Harden ..up, international version).

 

[jonmhend]

Howdy fellas...

I've been lurking in this thread off and on for the past 6 months or so. Let me first say that I hate running. I've never been able to run well, and I plod along like a wooly mammoth. I eat too much and I smoke. So that's exactly why I want to run. Make sense?

I have no interest in meeting any kind of time. I just want to finish. All that being said...

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

I feel like I need to do something that is beyond myself. Something great. It's hard to explain, but I've been fixated on this race for months, and the obsession isn't fading, so I'm going for it.

I did my first 5k at the end of September, and then did absolutely nothing until this week. I ran/walked 3 miles on Tuesday, and 1.5 yesterday. 3 miles scheduled for Friday.

My first big test is the ING Half at the end of March. I'm following the Higdon program, so I should be ready in time. Next big milestone is possibly the Cleveland Tri in August, but my schedule may not allow that one. There will also be several 5's, 8's, and 10's interspersed throughout the year.

I'm sure I'll need some guidance as I train, so I'll be checking in here often. I also think it helps my own accountability to take this "public," so to speak. So here I am.

Good luck to all of you (and me!) on meeting your goals in '10.

Wow - that is very cool. Definitely keep us up to date on your training. About a marathon per day for 6 days... I'm in awe of what that must be like. I'm sure there is lots of walking, but just the sheer distance is very impressive.Welcome to the board!

 

[Sand]

Howdy fellas...

I've been lurking in this thread off and on for the past 6 months or so. Let me first say that I hate running. I've never been able to run well, and I plod along like a wooly mammoth. I eat too much and I smoke. So that's exactly why I want to run. Make sense?

I have no interest in meeting any kind of time. I just want to finish. All that being said...

Here is my goal: http://www.4deserts.com/gobimarch/

I'll be doing the Gobi in June of 2011.

I feel like I need to do something that is beyond myself. Something great. It's hard to explain, but I've been fixated on this race for months, and the obsession isn't fading, so I'm going for it.

I did my first 5k at the end of September, and then did absolutely nothing until this week. I ran/walked 3 miles on Tuesday, and 1.5 yesterday. 3 miles scheduled for Friday.

My first big test is the ING Half at the end of March. I'm following the Higdon program, so I should be ready in time. Next big milestone is possibly the Cleveland Tri in August, but my schedule may not allow that one. There will also be several 5's, 8's, and 10's interspersed throughout the year.

I'm sure I'll need some guidance as I train, so I'll be checking in here often. I also think it helps my own accountability to take this "public," so to speak. So here I am.

Good luck to all of you (and me!) on meeting your goals in '10.

Wow.You are dreaming big...just take your training a day at a time. Don't let anyone tell you you're crazy and can't do it.

Well that looks like a cute little race...On the good side it looks like the Gobi one had the fewest DNFs. I say go for it! Keep us updated on your journey.

(BTW, it looks like the winner last year finished the 156 miles in 28 hours - )

 

[gruecd]

Since Sunday is my 33rd birthday, I think I might try to run 33K this weekend (about 20.5 miles). Not sure if I'll do it all at once or if I'll split it between the two days. Depends on how my knee feels and how much I do.

 

[meeka]

I thought I better check in to see how the running has been going. I am in my running off-season at the moment. I have still been getting around 20-25 miles in each week, but with no training on the schedule I have been just working on keeping my base up and trying to get those base miles from 9 and 9:30 m/m to 8 and 8:30 m/m. My next race is the Stillwater Marathon on May 30th so I do not start training until the last week of January.

Good luck to the racers this weekend.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Questions for Sand & Tri-Man:

Using the sport count timer I now have all kinds of information on my swims and have no idea what to do with it. I've decided that every other week I am going to open one of my swims doing a simulated 1/2 ironman distance swim. While the actual distance is just under 85 lengths of a 25 yard pool, with my inability to swim a straight line, 86 lengths (43 laps) is probably just about right. So, last night I was out of town for work, but found a cheap place to swim and started out swimming the full 43 laps in 40:26, which amazed me because I'd been out late the night before and sitting in meetings all day and really didn't think I was going that hard. The sport count revealed that I swam the 1st lap (50 yards) in 49 seconds, the second in 48 and then the next 30 or so were within about 15 seconds of each other in the high 55s, low 56s. With around 10 laps to go, I then fell off and swam the rest right on a 1:00 to 1:10.

Did I go out too fast the 1st two laps or is that expected until I fall in to a groove (which I obviously did)?

Does a late drop in time of 4 or 5 seconds seem normal at the end of a longer swim? It was strange because I felt no drop off while swimming.

What should I be analyzing each swim? Should I be more concerned with more consistent lap times, overall time or should I look for something like negative splits?

What else could I get out of lap by lap and overall swim time information?

Thanks!!

Wrapped the swim with 17 more laps, all below 56 seconds for a full 3,000 yards.

 

[BassNBrew]

Questions for Sand & Tri-Man:Using the sport count timer I now have all kinds of information on my swims and have no idea what to do with it. I've decided that every other week I am going to open one of my swims doing a simulated 1/2 ironman distance swim. While the actual distance is just under 85 lengths of a 25 yard pool, with my inability to swim a straight line, 86 lengths (43 laps) is probably just about right. So, last night I was out of town for work, but found a cheap place to swim and started out swimming the full 43 laps in 40:26, which amazed me because I'd been out late the night before and sitting in meetings all day and really didn't think I was going that hard. The sport count revealed that I swam the 1st lap (50 yards) in 49 seconds, the second in 48 and then the next 30 or so were within about 15 seconds of each other in the high 55s, low 56s. With around 10 laps to go, I then fell off and swam the rest right on a 1:00 to 1:10.Did I go out too fast the 1st two laps or is that expected until I fall in to a groove (which I obviously did)? Does a late drop in time of 4 or 5 seconds seem normal at the end of a longer swim? It was strange because I felt no drop off while swimming.What should I be analyzing each swim? Should I be more concerned with more consistent lap times, overall time or should I look for something like negative splits? What else could I get out of lap by lap and overall swim time information?Thanks!!Wrapped the swim with 17 more laps, all below 56 seconds for a full 3,000 yards.

Not an expect by any means...swim coach just put me in the newbie group. However, I suspect your form suffered at the end for some reason. If that wasn't the case, then you just got extremely tired and you'll improve with training. Do this workout a couple of more times. If you see similiar results you need to slow down your pace at the begining and focus on speed work for a breakthough.I'll stand on my island again, but you guys need to just drop the negetive split talk in training. All it means is that you sandbagged the first half of the work out. Your goal in any non-interval related workout should be a consistant output (such as wattage) or heart rate. If it's tempo, go tempo pace...slow and easy, go slow and easy. Let's say your target HR for a workout is 160. If you maintain 160 the entire time there's no way you'll ever see a negative split (excluding hills/wind/etc). If you're in great shape there will be no split, otherwise it will be positive. Now I will say if it's a huge positve split, you need to back off on the front end. The only time to brag about a negetive split is during a race. In that case you're running at your race HR and then ratcheting up in the latter half. In a race situation, a positve split means you went out to hard because the finishing kick should swing you to a negative split. Even if a race situation, if the split is a big negative, it means you left too much in the tank to have your optimum race.This also applies to intervals to an extent. You are going to get tired if you're doing the intervals properly. You may want to ration your effort so you can finish an interval workout. That said, if your interval times at 2:10, 2:05, 1:40, 1:35, you didn't go hard enough on the first couple of sets.