Umm, I put on some extra clothes and got my butt outside.Dexter said:How do those of you in cold weather cities manage to keep your fitness (at a cardio level) up in the winter?
Not to be flippant, but I think I maybe ran on a treadmill 5-6 times this past winter, and even then, it was almost always because the roads/sidewalks hadn't been cleared or it was super icy out there. Otherwise, I ran outside pretty much regardless of the temps, and in most cases I was fine with an Under Armour base layer and one more layer over the top. I think a couple of times I added a light fleece under my jacket. Once you're out there, it really isn't bad at all, and it makes you feel kinda badass.I noticed that it wasn't the extreme temperatures that got to me, but the biting wind. It seems to take me forever to catch my breath when I'm running in the winter.FWIW, I haven't run on a treadmill in years. I prefer to get my exercise outside when possible....never been a gym member either.Umm, I put on some extra clothes and got my butt outside.Dexter said:How do those of you in cold weather cities manage to keep your fitness (at a cardio level) up in the winter?Not to be flippant, but I think I maybe ran on a treadmill 5-6 times this past winter, and even then, it was almost always because the roads/sidewalks hadn't been cleared or it was super icy out there. Otherwise, I ran outside pretty much regardless of the temps, and in most cases I was fine with an Under Armour base layer and one more layer over the top. I think a couple of times I added a light fleece under my jacket. Once you're out there, it really isn't bad at all, and it makes you feel kinda badass.
I wish I could reply to you as a current 10k dude, all fit and whatnot. Nope. Former, with a hope and a twinkle in the eye to get back into things. And fat.But I'd say you need to just gear it up and get outside. Workout stuff is so high-tech now it's easy to beat back 20degs. Can't help you with the wind. Treadmills are el suck.Can't you just play indoor soccer in the winter?I noticed that it wasn't the extreme temperatures that got to me, but the biting wind. It seems to take me forever to catch my breath when I'm running in the winter.FWIW, I haven't run on a treadmill in years. I prefer to get my exercise outside when possible....never been a gym member either.Umm, I put on some extra clothes and got my butt outside.Dexter said:How do those of you in cold weather cities manage to keep your fitness (at a cardio level) up in the winter?Not to be flippant, but I think I maybe ran on a treadmill 5-6 times this past winter, and even then, it was almost always because the roads/sidewalks hadn't been cleared or it was super icy out there. Otherwise, I ran outside pretty much regardless of the temps, and in most cases I was fine with an Under Armour base layer and one more layer over the top. I think a couple of times I added a light fleece under my jacket. Once you're out there, it really isn't bad at all, and it makes you feel kinda badass.
How does it work with the Garmin? I have a Garmin, but I've never thought to use it as a stopwatch when I'm running a few miles around the block. I realize a stopwatch would work, but, well, I'm a cheap ******* and don't own one.For a long time, I was just excited to get outside and go for a run - only more recently have I actually started checking out my time.I like the whole "start a stopwatch and put it in the mailbox" idea.IvanKaramazov said:Garmin. But if you don't feel like dropping a couple hundred on a GPS -- you will someday, trust me -- just spring for a $15 digital watch with a stopwatch.Although I think we all have a soft spot for the "look at the clock when I leave and when I get back and adjust for warm-up/cool-down" method.Steve Tasker said:How do you time yourselves?![]()
I do, but my teammates don't like to practice, so we play a game a week and that's it. Even with a full recovery day, that still leaves me 5 days with nothing to do.It's not as bad as I make it out to sound, I just struggled to really keep myself motivated this past winter. It's just so easy to walk into a warm house after a long day at work and not want to throw on some Under Armour and go back outside into the 15-degree weather. Maybe that's a product of not having anyone to run with....I have to motivate myself, I don't have someone calling me and bugging me to go for a run.Maybe this thread will helpI wish I could reply to you as a current 10k dude, all fit and whatnot. Nope. Former, with a hope and a twinkle in the eye to get back into things. And fat.But I'd say you need to just gear it up and get outside. Workout stuff is so high-tech now it's easy to beat back 20degs. Can't help you with the wind. Treadmills are el suck.Can't you just play indoor soccer in the winter?I noticed that it wasn't the extreme temperatures that got to me, but the biting wind. It seems to take me forever to catch my breath when I'm running in the winter.FWIW, I haven't run on a treadmill in years. I prefer to get my exercise outside when possible....never been a gym member either.Umm, I put on some extra clothes and got my butt outside.Dexter said:How do those of you in cold weather cities manage to keep your fitness (at a cardio level) up in the winter?Not to be flippant, but I think I maybe ran on a treadmill 5-6 times this past winter, and even then, it was almost always because the roads/sidewalks hadn't been cleared or it was super icy out there. Otherwise, I ran outside pretty much regardless of the temps, and in most cases I was fine with an Under Armour base layer and one more layer over the top. I think a couple of times I added a light fleece under my jacket. Once you're out there, it really isn't bad at all, and it makes you feel kinda badass.

Just to be clear he was talking about a Garmin Forerunner (or an Edge, which is what I use). These are the products specifically designed for athletic use.Note, though, that if you look at getting one the new 110 is coming out soon. I'm quite tempted - not humungo like the 305, but still does the basics well.If you're a cheap *******, don't look at Garmins. $$$.How does it work with the Garmin? I have a Garmin, but I've never thought to use it as a stopwatch when I'm running a few miles around the block. I realize a stopwatch would work, but, well, I'm a cheap ******* and don't own one.IvanKaramazov said:Garmin. But if you don't feel like dropping a couple hundred on a GPS -- you will someday, trust me -- just spring for a $15 digital watch with a stopwatch.Although I think we all have a soft spot for the "look at the clock when I leave and when I get back and adjust for warm-up/cool-down" method.Steve Tasker said:How do you time yourselves?![]()
Wow - it is a big weekend. I'd better make sure I represent! We're supposed to be at about 68 degrees and 68% humidity at gun time.BassNBrew: 1.5 mile run, 2.5 mile kayak, 11 mile bike, 2.9 mile run
2Young2BBald: The Island Lake Olympic Triathlon.
Wraith: Soldier Field 10 miler
Meeka: Minneapolis Marathon
Dexter: 1000yd swim, 14 mile MTB, 4 mi. run.
I think I got them all. Big race weekend - good luck all!!
I'm hoping to hang on for a 1:18:20 (7:50s).No need for the bag- this thread definitely helps. Hopefully you're better than I am at sticking to this- I always had the soccer to train for... training on it's own never did anything for me. Without the soccer, I eventually stumbled into triathlons. But picking a race here or there has kind of lost it's meaning or impetus for me, which is why (along with too mucnh work and the kid and wifeI do, but my teammates don't like to practice, so we play a game a week and that's it. Even with a full recovery day, that still leaves me 5 days with nothing to do.
It's not as bad as I make it out to sound, I just struggled to really keep myself motivated this past winter. It's just so easy to walk into a warm house after a long day at work and not want to throw on some Under Armour and go back outside into the 15-degree weather. Maybe that's a product of not having anyone to run with....I have to motivate myself, I don't have someone calling me and bugging me to go for a run.
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) I've not been running/biking/swimming.Just to be clear he was talking about a Garmin Forerunner (or an Edge, which is what I use). These are the products specifically designed for athletic use.Note, though, that if you look at getting one the new 110 is coming out soon. I'm quite tempted - not humungo like the 305, but still does the basics well.If you're a cheap *******, don't look at Garmins. $$$.How does it work with the Garmin? I have a Garmin, but I've never thought to use it as a stopwatch when I'm running a few miles around the block. I realize a stopwatch would work, but, well, I'm a cheap ******* and don't own one.IvanKaramazov said:Garmin. But if you don't feel like dropping a couple hundred on a GPS -- you will someday, trust me -- just spring for a $15 digital watch with a stopwatch.Although I think we all have a soft spot for the "look at the clock when I leave and when I get back and adjust for warm-up/cool-down" method.Steve Tasker said:How do you time yourselves?![]()
I was wondering "how the #### does he go running with a big ### Garmin?"laying up is the key to staying warm, and I find a balaclava really helps with my breathing. I have asthma, so really cold air can be difficult to breathe. In the winter I'll do the treadmill if I have to for my weekday runs, but I'd much rather deal with the elements. As far as timing yourself, a decent Timex will do the trick, but I love my Garmin 305.I do, but my teammates don't like to practice, so we play a game a week and that's it. Even with a full recovery day, that still leaves me 5 days with nothing to do.It's not as bad as I make it out to sound, I just struggled to really keep myself motivated this past winter. It's just so easy to walk into a warm house after a long day at work and not want to throw on some Under Armour and go back outside into the 15-degree weather. Maybe that's a product of not having anyone to run with....I have to motivate myself, I don't have someone calling me and bugging me to go for a run.Maybe this thread will helpI wish I could reply to you as a current 10k dude, all fit and whatnot. Nope. Former, with a hope and a twinkle in the eye to get back into things. And fat.But I'd say you need to just gear it up and get outside. Workout stuff is so high-tech now it's easy to beat back 20degs. Can't help you with the wind. Treadmills are el suck.Can't you just play indoor soccer in the winter?I noticed that it wasn't the extreme temperatures that got to me, but the biting wind. It seems to take me forever to catch my breath when I'm running in the winter.FWIW, I haven't run on a treadmill in years. I prefer to get my exercise outside when possible....never been a gym member either.Umm, I put on some extra clothes and got my butt outside.Dexter said:How do those of you in cold weather cities manage to keep your fitness (at a cardio level) up in the winter?Not to be flippant, but I think I maybe ran on a treadmill 5-6 times this past winter, and even then, it was almost always because the roads/sidewalks hadn't been cleared or it was super icy out there. Otherwise, I ran outside pretty much regardless of the temps, and in most cases I was fine with an Under Armour base layer and one more layer over the top. I think a couple of times I added a light fleece under my jacket. Once you're out there, it really isn't bad at all, and it makes you feel kinda badass.
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Do we have ages on everyone? I was wondering if we will qualify for the Master's category (I'll be 40 in 2011).And no, Tri-Man, we really don't need you to respond to this...Bourbon updatelurker here - i've got some interest in the bourbon chase...mb, The_Man, 2Young, Sand, Wraith, liquors, tri-man, Dexter, Harris, Gruecd (if he has balls!)
I'll be 40 next March.Do we have ages on everyone? I was wondering if we will qualify for the Master's category (I'll be 40 in 2011).And no, Tri-Man, we really don't need you to respond to this...Bourbon updatelurker here - i've got some interest in the bourbon chase...mb, The_Man, 2Young, Sand, Wraith, liquors, tri-man, Dexter, Harris, Gruecd (if he has balls!)
No Need to Check the Paper! If you Google up race calendar & whatever geographic area you want to run in, most of the time there is a calendar out there for the taking. Also note, races in Nov/Dec! For a change of pace, look in to trail races in the fall.I've been in a solid routine (for me, anyway) lately:
Sunday - soccer game...pros at my position (center mid) tend to run about 7 miles in a game...so let's say that I don't quite run as much as they do....maybe 5 miles of stopping/starting/sprinting, etc.?
Monday - recovery day, really too sore from the game to get a meaningful run in (hence my bike post from earlier)
Tuesday - 2 miles
Wednesday - either 1 mile or take the day off, depending on soreness
Thursday - 2 miles
Friday - usually take day off
Saturday - 2 miles
I've been running, per my "look at the clock" strategy, roughly 7 minute miles. A little slower if I'm still beat up from the weekend. I've been thinking about trying to ramp up my 2 mile runs to 3 miles - or perhaps upping my Thursday run to a bit longer, and I'd love to have a bike for Mondays/Wednesdays - would love to get a nice ride in instead of running on those days.
I'm also going to look in the paper for the upcoming race schedule this weekend. I've been meaning to do this for awhile, but I haven't been motivated enough to do it on my own. I like this thread, it's given me a little boost. I won't be running for the fast times like a lot of you guys, but I just like to push myself and see incremental improvement.
43 by race day for me. Harris & Dexter are pups as I recall and grue is on the pup side of old still too.Do we have ages on everyone? I was wondering if we will qualify for the Master's category (I'll be 40 in 2011).And no, Tri-Man, we really don't need you to respond to this...Bourbon updatelurker here - i've got some interest in the bourbon chase...mb, The_Man, 2Young, Sand, Wraith, liquors, tri-man, Dexter, Harris, Gruecd (if he has balls!)
Wow - it is a big weekend. I'd better make sure I represent! We're supposed to be at about 68 degrees and 68% humidity at gun time.BassNBrew: 1.5 mile run, 2.5 mile kayak, 11 mile bike, 2.9 mile run
2Young2BBald: The Island Lake Olympic Triathlon.
Wraith: Soldier Field 10 miler
Meeka: Minneapolis Marathon
Dexter: 1000yd swim, 14 mile MTB, 4 mi. run.
I think I got them all. Big race weekend - good luck all!!I'm hoping to hang on for a 1:18:20 (7:50s).
Good luck everyone!!
indeed. We'll have the same temps, but humidity levels near 80%. And, those freaking fuzzy things coming off there trees make things even more miserable.
You could toss in rain, hail, hordes of locusts, etc and I'd still be excited to get out there and race. Gruecd, I saw your note on race stalking this weekend. I think my tri could produce VERY nice results here. FastPhotoPro is doing the pictures. They have the racers body mark all over with huge numbers and even have them on the hands, sticker on the helmet, etc. Plus, the race director has a huge college girl following on FB. Fingers crossed.Old. 42 or 43 by race day43 by race day for me. Harris & Dexter are pups as I recall and grue is on the pup side of old still too.Do we have ages on everyone? I was wondering if we will qualify for the Master's category (I'll be 40 in 2011).And no, Tri-Man, we really don't need you to respond to this...Bourbon updatelurker here - i've got some interest in the bourbon chase...mb, The_Man, 2Young, Sand, Wraith, liquors, tri-man, Dexter, Harris, Gruecd (if he has balls!)
I will be 34 by then and I think Harris is still pretty young. Not sure what the penalty is for having youngins' in the masters group.Do we have ages on everyone? I was wondering if we will qualify for the Master's category (I'll be 40 in 2011).And no, Tri-Man, we really don't need you to respond to this...Bourbon updatelurker here - i've got some interest in the bourbon chase...mb, The_Man, 2Young, Sand, Wraith, liquors, tri-man, Dexter, Harris, Gruecd (if he has balls!)
I'm 24.........so I've got a ways to go before I'll be considered masters.I will be 34 by then and I think Harris is still pretty young. Not sure what the penalty is for having youngins' in the masters group.Do we have ages on everyone? I was wondering if we will qualify for the Master's category (I'll be 40 in 2011).And no, Tri-Man, we really don't need you to respond to this...Bourbon updatelurker here - i've got some interest in the bourbon chase...mb, The_Man, 2Young, Sand, Wraith, liquors, tri-man, Dexter, Harris, Gruecd (if he has balls!)
FWIW: I'll be 45 for the race.Disagree.If you're a cheap *******, don't look at Garmins. $$$.
You can get the 305 right now on Amazon for $146. You can get the 205 (same thing but without the heart rate monitor) for $124.
lol. I still have a 201, and the Mrs. uses it on the very rare occasions that we both need a Garmin at the same time. A gal in our Dept. just purchased one of the newest Garmin's (405cx) from REI for $220. On REI's website it's currently $270, and from Garmin's website you can get a $50 rebate. That's more than $100 less than I've seen it anywhere else!If anyone... Steve?... is interested, I've got an old Garmin I'd get rid of on the supah-cheap. It's kindof star-trekey and big, but wth. Never really worked in NYC. I think this is it.
HTFU #2 for the race. This will continue until you are in, or the race finishes (17 months of HTFU's).Disagree.If you're a cheap *******, don't look at Garmins. $$$.You can get the 305 right now on Amazon for $146. You can get the 205 (same thing but without the heart rate monitor) for $124.
Also, I'm still not planning on doing the Bourbon Chase, but for the record, I'm 33, so yes, I'm still on the "pup side" of being old.![]()
I bought our second Garmin 201 on eBay. It was a reconditioned one with a 1-year warranty and, I think I got it for around 80-bucks. Its still kicking some 3+ years later!lol. I still have a 201, and the Mrs. uses it on the very rare occasions that we both need a Garmin at the same time. A gal in our Dept. just purchased one of the newest Garmin's (405cx) from REI for $220. On REI's website it's currently $270, and from Garmin's website you can get a $50 rebate. That's more than $100 less than I've seen it anywhere else!If anyone... Steve?... is interested, I've got an old Garmin I'd get rid of on the supah-cheap. It's kindof star-trekey and big, but wth. Never really worked in NYC. I think this is it.
I was going to work theHTFU #2 for the race. This will continue until you are in, or the race finishes (17 months of HTFU's).Disagree.If you're a cheap *******, don't look at Garmins. $$$.You can get the 305 right now on Amazon for $146. You can get the 205 (same thing but without the heart rate monitor) for $124.
Also, I'm still not planning on doing the Bourbon Chase, but for the record, I'm 33, so yes, I'm still on the "pup side" of being old.![]()
argument on him for the abuse I got for not making it to Chicago this August, but you are doing a fine job with the HTFUs PSL, keep it up!I wasn't going to put the socks on during the event, I was going to wear them the whole time. Is there any difference between wet bare feet and wet feet in socks? I was thinking if they are thin enough they'll dry about the same in the tri shoes on the bike and wouldn't ball up (again - thin and tight).What got me thinking more about this is an upcoming tri where there's a long transition from the swim to the bike where the grass will be littered with the sticker balls that fall off the trees. I really think I could make up some time in the transition if I didn't have to ##### foot over that terrian in barefeet. I don't think there's anything illeagal about swimming with socks. I really don't care if I look like a dweeb....I already swim with my number glued onto my jersey to save messing around with the race belt. Has anyone swam with their oxy socks?BnB: I'd go sans socks. I can't stand trying to put socks on for a tri, and with it being that short, your feet will be fine. I'll double the glide on shoes and feet prior to starting though.
I don't think this is going to work out quite how you planned.And for the record...as of now I'm out for the the Bourbon Chase.HTFU #2 for the race. This will continue until you are in, or the race finishes (17 months of HTFU's).Disagree.If you're a cheap *******, don't look at Garmins. $$$.You can get the 305 right now on Amazon for $146. You can get the 205 (same thing but without the heart rate monitor) for $124.
Also, I'm still not planning on doing the Bourbon Chase, but for the record, I'm 33, so yes, I'm still on the "pup side" of being old.![]()
I've swam with compression sleeves, but never the socks. There is a race here in MI that has 1/4 mile+ transition from the lake to T1 across some gravel roads. They put down carpet, but the grass is still gravely around it. Most folks toss on their shoes, sockless, after the swim and run to T1 in their shoes. I can't imagine swimming in any type of sock.Just thought of a question for tomorrow. What are folks thoughts about putting the timing chip and strap over or under the 2XU calve sleeve?I wasn't going to put the socks on during the event, I was going to wear them the whole time. Is there any difference between wet bare feet and wet feet in socks? I was thinking if they are thin enough they'll dry about the same in the tri shoes on the bike and wouldn't ball up (again - thin and tight).What got me thinking more about this is an upcoming tri where there's a long transition from the swim to the bike where the grass will be littered with the sticker balls that fall off the trees. I really think I could make up some time in the transition if I didn't have to ##### foot over that terrian in barefeet. I don't think there's anything illeagal about swimming with socks. I really don't care if I look like a dweeb....I already swim with my number glued onto my jersey to save messing around with the race belt. Has anyone swam with their oxy socks?BnB: I'd go sans socks. I can't stand trying to put socks on for a tri, and with it being that short, your feet will be fine. I'll double the glide on shoes and feet prior to starting though.
I swam in a waterproof sock (meant for riding, IIRC) in two cold-water races. Definietly helped.I've swam with compression sleeves, but never the socks. There is a race here in MI that has 1/4 mile+ transition from the lake to T1 across some gravel roads. They put down carpet, but the grass is still gravely around it. Most folks toss on their shoes, sockless, after the swim and run to T1 in their shoes. I can't imagine swimming in any type of sock.Just thought of a question for tomorrow. What are folks thoughts about putting the timing chip and strap over or under the 2XU calve sleeve?I wasn't going to put the socks on during the event, I was going to wear them the whole time. Is there any difference between wet bare feet and wet feet in socks? I was thinking if they are thin enough they'll dry about the same in the tri shoes on the bike and wouldn't ball up (again - thin and tight).What got me thinking more about this is an upcoming tri where there's a long transition from the swim to the bike where the grass will be littered with the sticker balls that fall off the trees. I really think I could make up some time in the transition if I didn't have to ##### foot over that terrian in barefeet. I don't think there's anything illeagal about swimming with socks. I really don't care if I look like a dweeb....I already swim with my number glued onto my jersey to save messing around with the race belt. Has anyone swam with their oxy socks?BnB: I'd go sans socks. I can't stand trying to put socks on for a tri, and with it being that short, your feet will be fine. I'll double the glide on shoes and feet prior to starting though.
You've just given me a new hobby. I shall find pic's of 3's or lower with HTFU's (or dudes) and will post those instead. Once you say "yes" I shall up the quality, and make the message nicer. Be warned.Oh, no! Don't keep posting pictures of hotties in swimsuits! Anything but that!HTFU #2 for the race. This will continue until you are in, or the race finishes (17 months of HTFU's).![]()
Thanks for the invite.Going to do a 100k race tomorrow. Goal is to do one 100k+ race a month here on out. Barely gonna get May in under the bar. Still just trying to knock down 20 averages at this point. Won't really start bringing the pain train until July.

This is a 3rd tier deal. Not something uber like the goat.Thanks for the invite.Going to do a 100k race tomorrow. Goal is to do one 100k+ race a month here on out. Barely gonna get May in under the bar. Still just trying to knock down 20 averages at this point. Won't really start bringing the pain train until July.![]()
While I don't directly support the assault taking place on gruecd (I empathize with keeping things right on the homefront):
Are you not sure what year you were born or what?Old. 42 or 43 by race day43 by race day for me. Harris & Dexter are pups as I recall and grue is on the pup side of old still too.Do we have ages on everyone? I was wondering if we will qualify for the Master's category (I'll be 40 in 2011).And no, Tri-Man, we really don't need you to respond to this...Bourbon updatelurker here - i've got some interest in the bourbon chase...mb, The_Man, 2Young, Sand, Wraith, liquors, tri-man, Dexter, Harris, Gruecd (if he has balls!)

I'm running the local version of this in 2 weeks - I think it's an international contest, right?. I think I'll be keeping pace with a coworker friend though, so I'm not sure how fast my pace will be.I ran the JP Morgan Chase Corporate Challenge yesterday here in Chicago, a small 3.5 mile course within the east loop area. Put up a 25:31 for 3.5 miles (7:17/mile) but definitely left some out on the course. With 20,000 people (most of whom are not exactly serious runners) I had to navigate a minefield for the first half-mile before anything really opened up. Decent organization for a race like this and it was cool to have all the team tents for beer/food afterward. Good starting point to set a bar to improve upon for the summer/fall.
I'm not sure it will count as a "race" but it is my version of a triathlon this weekend. On Saturday I'll be smoking a brisket and two chickens; building a tree house and consuming copious amounts of tasty beverages. It's your typical: Smoke/Build/Drink trifecta!BassNBrew: 1.5 mile run, 2.5 mile kayak, 11 mile bike, 2.9 mile run
2Young2BBald: The Island Lake Olympic Triathlon.
Wraith: Soldier Field 10 miler
Meeka: Minneapolis Marathon
Dexter: 1000yd swim, 14 mile MTB, 4 mi. run.
culdeus: 100k Cycling Race
Updated. A cornucopia of racing this weekend. I may volunteer at a local tri, but don't want to run it because I have one race left as a beginner and don't want to burn it there. I want a shot to podium in the big race here.
I still advertise the effort I make with every stride. But I would like to think someday I, too, will effortlessly glide over the ground like a ghost.White Fang did not wait. The way was clear, and that was all he had wanted. She took after him, never ceasing her outcry. It was the straightaway now, and when it came to real running, White Fang could teach her things. She ran frantically, hysterically, straining to the utmost, advertising the effort she was making with every leap: and all the time White Fang slid smoothly away from her silently, without effort, gliding like a ghost over the ground.