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It's just "Lap Pace." Great job on the 22, by the way.
Heat and humidity are back here in NE Wisconsin. Did 7 recovery miles today and another 8 "squishy shoe" miles this morning. Legs are really starting to feel the cumulative effect of this training cycle. Thankfully the taper is only 3 weeks away!Hope you all have a great day!
Great workout and great that you could share with your son. You are improving at a rapid pace. Those times are great. It sounds like that plan is starting to agree with you and you are moving along nicely on it. I forgot to mention in my post that this week was a new personal best of 70 miles this week. I never in a hundred years would have thought I would reach that many miles in a week.
Great stuff, guys! Neat to hear another dad/son bonding moment!---
Congrats on racing and finishing = Goals #1 and 2 (get to the starting line, then get to the finish line). Anything beyond that is bonus.
Eh - most calculators are pretty poor. I don't put much stock in my Garmin on that.It sure doesn't keep me from eating half the refrigerator after a good workout, either...
Somehow, my computer from my tri bike from the last event got in my shoe and I didn't notice it there. Tried to put my shoe on and had to figure out what was going on. Plus, the jack ### next to me had his rig on top of my stuff.
but got real lucky. Averaged 7:25s for the run, which was lsower than last year, but still felt good.
so far (Dexter, she was 20, so my thoughts were legal).
I tend to think my Garmin isn't too far off. I think it's using my profile stats to do it's estimation. I'd hate to think it's over-reporting by much... and as I recall it was basically in line with other calculators I used.
that I can't remotely keep up with those times. That's really really impressive. 
You deserve 4th for posting a pic in facebook.Would have been more if you hadn't pulled the old drown the bald guy by grabbing his ankle on the swim
Actually 4th is 3rd loser USAT has done a great job with the age group deal. It's nice that us armchair ametuers have a group to compete within. It really postions them nicely with the seniors.
SERIOUSLY!? How About This One (she is in the middle)You deserve 4th for posting a pic in facebook.Would have been more if you hadn't pulled the old drown the bald guy by grabbing his ankle on the swim
Gotta feel good getting this behind you!!!
I'm not signed up and really don't plan on doing so in the near future.SERIOUSLY!? How About This One (she is in the middle)You deserve 4th for posting a pic in facebook.Would have been more if you hadn't pulled the old drown the bald guy by grabbing his ankle on the swim
ETA, or did you mean its uncool to post FB pics (didn't know there were rules here).
Nice distances guys. Maybe someday I'll hit that mark in a month.
So the new photo was a good thing, I'mI'm not signed up and really don't plan on doing so in the near future.SERIOUSLY!? How About This One (she is in the middle)You deserve 4th for posting a pic in facebook.
ETA, or did you mean its uncool to post FB pics (didn't know there were rules here).
No race photographer and it was funny to watch a bunch of dopes in tri gear slobber over her so I thoght I'd share.
When you use flicker everyone can see pics, when you use facebook, only members can see pics.So the new photo was a good thing, I'mNo race photographer and it was funny to watch a bunch of dopes in tri gear slobber over her so I thoght I'd share.
I dont have a hill and I cant figure out how to make my garmin show my heart rate at a size big enough that I could do what they are asking. My garmin has my heart rate but it is small in the upper right hand corner of the watch. I am using the 305. I think I am just gonna run as hard as I can until I think I will puke or pass out. I figure if I do that a few times I can come home and plug the garmin into my computer and see what the max was. I have already been to the gym for weights and treadmill. I am now wasting time thinking it may cool down if I wait a bit. It is 94 out right now.I did a bunch of googling and came across this article - Link. I'm going to do #1. I'm just praying it's not going to be 97 like they're forecasting.ETA: I think the formulas are junk. They all give me around low 180's for a max. There's no way I was 10bpm from my max last night and was that comfortable.
You have too many hot friends already. Help an old man figure out how to hook her as my friend.Ned - Nice work on the 5-miler last night. For what it's worth, I really don't pay much attention to the calorie counter, but I doubt it's super accurate.
pmb - Congrats on the long run and the new mileage PR! Regarding the extra calories, what are you eating before your long runs?
The_Man - Strong run Saturday, and good luck with the 40-mile week!
tri-man - Glad to hear the calf is doing well. Must be the geeky socks.
liquors - I hear ya on the heat and humidity. I thought maybe we were done with it, but such is not the case.
2Young - Way to battle out there! Debating whether or not I should send a blind friend request to your latest stalkee....
wraith - That's an awesome 15-miler! Looking forward to seeing what you do in Chi-Town!
BNB - Why don't you wanna sign up for Facebook? All the cool kids are doing it. Anyway.....good to see you getting back at the running!
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Tomorrow's schedule calls for 9 miles with 5 x 1000M at 5K. I hate doing speedwork in the morning, but tomorrow I really don't have much of a choice, as I'm busy in the afternoon and evening. Plus my legs are sore. Ugh. But assuming I can drag my ### out of bed, I'll give it a shot. Shooting for 6:08 pace, so about 3:50/repeat. Or I might just try doing a set of Yasso 800s and try to average 3:00/repeat. Time will tell.
You can change the data fields on the main display (selecting up to 4). Check out page 43 here.prosopis said:I dont have a hill and I cant figure out how to make my garmin show my heart rate at a size big enough that I could do what they are asking. My garmin has my heart rate but it is small in the upper right hand corner of the watch. I am using the 305. I think I am just gonna run as hard as I can until I think I will puke or pass out. I figure if I do that a few times I can come home and plug the garmin into my computer and see what the max was. I have already been to the gym for weights and treadmill. I am now wasting time thinking it may cool down if I wait a bit. It is 94 out right now.I did a bunch of googling and came across this article - Link. I'm going to do #1. I'm just praying it's not going to be 97 like they're forecasting.
Friend request sent. With any luck, she'll send me a message asking how I know her. I'll just say that I saw how well she did when I was checking my friend's race results, and you can never have too many awesome athlete friends.Easy. I'll get her to friend me first. Then you can send her a friend request, and when she sees that you have a friend in common (me), maybe, just maybe she'll confirm your request.2Young2BBald said:
First the cool news- I live in a pretty rural area and we do get quite a bit of desert wild life. As I was heading out no my heart rate quest I saw three hawks sitting on our fence. Thats right three of them. They were big hawks to. It was really neat to see. My wife sees them around a lot and thinks they must have a nest near by. I have never seen three of them that big just hanging out.Onto the pain. I did go to the gym and do weights today. In the past I have tried not to do any "serious" running same day because my legs are toast. I had also done 2 miles on the tread mill. I had the treadmill set at 4.0 but I had the slope set at 9 so it was a very steep fast walk. I hit the road and I am guessing it was 90 out. I started out at a slow pace and then I went all out. Going all out did not last long. My legs were killing me and blah blah blah. Lots of talking to myself and I dropped a few F bombs on myself. The end result when I got home was the max I got my HR to was 171. Is that possible? That seems low to me. I will try to do this again on a day I dont do weights. The other thing about this is that this was my complaint a year ago when I ended up with all the heart bs being done. I still feel I run out of air sooner then every one else. Now every thing checked out fine last year but still this running out of breath is pissing me off. Anyway what do you guys think about a max HR of 171 at age 44. I am calling BS and like I said I will try to figure this out again when I have not done the weights. In the glass half full I was maintaining a high 8 to low 9 min pace for a while.prosopis said:I dont have a hill and I cant figure out how to make my garmin show my heart rate at a size big enough that I could do what they are asking. My garmin has my heart rate but it is small in the upper right hand corner of the watch. I am using the 305. I think I am just gonna run as hard as I can until I think I will puke or pass out. I figure if I do that a few times I can come home and plug the garmin into my computer and see what the max was. I have already been to the gym for weights and treadmill. I am now wasting time thinking it may cool down if I wait a bit. It is 94 out right now.I did a bunch of googling and came across this article - Link. I'm going to do #1. I'm just praying it's not going to be 97 like they're forecasting.
YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!That worked, Thanks.You can change the data fields on the main display (selecting up to 4). Check out page 43 here.prosopis said:I dont have a hill and I cant figure out how to make my garmin show my heart rate at a size big enough that I could do what they are asking. My garmin has my heart rate but it is small in the upper right hand corner of the watch. I am using the 305. I think I am just gonna run as hard as I can until I think I will puke or pass out. I figure if I do that a few times I can come home and plug the garmin into my computer and see what the max was. I have already been to the gym for weights and treadmill. I am now wasting time thinking it may cool down if I wait a bit. It is 94 out right now.I did a bunch of googling and came across this article - Link. I'm going to do #1. I'm just praying it's not going to be 97 like they're forecasting.
171 would be low v. the rest of the population, but not unheard of. If I was shooting for a max hr I would be slowing building up effort over a period of 10-15 minutes before blowing my wad. It's difficult to do while running becuase you have to stay upright. laying off the weights and better temps might help. Regardless, it's a pretty worthless number. Lacate threshold would be much more useful.Ref: the hawks...the vermin probably ate several Gambil's quail today.First the cool news- I live in a pretty rural area and we do get quite a bit of desert wild life. As I was heading out no my heart rate quest I saw three hawks sitting on our fence. Thats right three of them. They were big hawks to. It was really neat to see. My wife sees them around a lot and thinks they must have a nest near by. I have never seen three of them that big just hanging out.Onto the pain. I did go to the gym and do weights today. In the past I have tried not to do any "serious" running same day because my legs are toast. I had also done 2 miles on the tread mill. I had the treadmill set at 4.0 but I had the slope set at 9 so it was a very steep fast walk. I hit the road and I am guessing it was 90 out. I started out at a slow pace and then I went all out. Going all out did not last long. My legs were killing me and blah blah blah. Lots of talking to myself and I dropped a few F bombs on myself. The end result when I got home was the max I got my HR to was 171. Is that possible? That seems low to me. I will try to do this again on a day I dont do weights. The other thing about this is that this was my complaint a year ago when I ended up with all the heart bs being done. I still feel I run out of air sooner then every one else. Now every thing checked out fine last year but still this running out of breath is pissing me off. Anyway what do you guys think about a max HR of 171 at age 44. I am calling BS and like I said I will try to figure this out again when I have not done the weights. In the glass half full I was maintaining a high 8 to low 9 min pace for a while.prosopis said:I dont have a hill and I cant figure out how to make my garmin show my heart rate at a size big enough that I could do what they are asking. My garmin has my heart rate but it is small in the upper right hand corner of the watch. I am using the 305. I think I am just gonna run as hard as I can until I think I will puke or pass out. I figure if I do that a few times I can come home and plug the garmin into my computer and see what the max was. I have already been to the gym for weights and treadmill. I am now wasting time thinking it may cool down if I wait a bit. It is 94 out right now.I did a bunch of googling and came across this article - Link. I'm going to do #1. I'm just praying it's not going to be 97 like they're forecasting.
I cant express how freaking cool those hawks were.
BS - unlikely it is that low.(On my end - my 5th day in a row doing nothing. Damn business trip)First the cool news- I live in a pretty rural area and we do get quite a bit of desert wild life. As I was heading out no my heart rate quest I saw three hawks sitting on our fence. Thats right three of them. They were big hawks to. It was really neat to see. My wife sees them around a lot and thinks they must have a nest near by. I have never seen three of them that big just hanging out.Onto the pain. I did go to the gym and do weights today. In the past I have tried not to do any "serious" running same day because my legs are toast. I had also done 2 miles on the tread mill. I had the treadmill set at 4.0 but I had the slope set at 9 so it was a very steep fast walk. I hit the road and I am guessing it was 90 out. I started out at a slow pace and then I went all out. Going all out did not last long. My legs were killing me and blah blah blah. Lots of talking to myself and I dropped a few F bombs on myself. The end result when I got home was the max I got my HR to was 171. Is that possible? That seems low to me. I will try to do this again on a day I dont do weights. The other thing about this is that this was my complaint a year ago when I ended up with all the heart bs being done. I still feel I run out of air sooner then every one else. Now every thing checked out fine last year but still this running out of breath is pissing me off. Anyway what do you guys think about a max HR of 171 at age 44. I am calling BS and like I said I will try to figure this out again when I have not done the weights. In the glass half full I was maintaining a high 8 to low 9 min pace for a while.prosopis said:I dont have a hill and I cant figure out how to make my garmin show my heart rate at a size big enough that I could do what they are asking. My garmin has my heart rate but it is small in the upper right hand corner of the watch. I am using the 305. I think I am just gonna run as hard as I can until I think I will puke or pass out. I figure if I do that a few times I can come home and plug the garmin into my computer and see what the max was. I have already been to the gym for weights and treadmill. I am now wasting time thinking it may cool down if I wait a bit. It is 94 out right now.I did a bunch of googling and came across this article - Link. I'm going to do #1. I'm just praying it's not going to be 97 like they're forecasting.
I cant express how freaking cool those hawks were.
I am definitely not one of the experts here, but I would say that if you are more tired and sore after this workout, it may be working. The more you do this type the better you feel afterward, the longer the sprint parts will become, and the faster the total run will become. It may not hurt to throw in a run where you set a pace halfway between the jog and the sprint and keep it up for the 3.2 miles.
I would think that is low too unless you have a really low resting heart rate too.First the cool news- I live in a pretty rural area and we do get quite a bit of desert wild life. As I was heading out no my heart rate quest I saw three hawks sitting on our fence. Thats right three of them. They were big hawks to. It was really neat to see. My wife sees them around a lot and thinks they must have a nest near by. I have never seen three of them that big just hanging out.Onto the pain. I did go to the gym and do weights today. In the past I have tried not to do any "serious" running same day because my legs are toast. I had also done 2 miles on the tread mill. I had the treadmill set at 4.0 but I had the slope set at 9 so it was a very steep fast walk. I hit the road and I am guessing it was 90 out. I started out at a slow pace and then I went all out. Going all out did not last long. My legs were killing me and blah blah blah. Lots of talking to myself and I dropped a few F bombs on myself. The end result when I got home was the max I got my HR to was 171. Is that possible? That seems low to me. I will try to do this again on a day I dont do weights. The other thing about this is that this was my complaint a year ago when I ended up with all the heart bs being done. I still feel I run out of air sooner then every one else. Now every thing checked out fine last year but still this running out of breath is pissing me off. Anyway what do you guys think about a max HR of 171 at age 44. I am calling BS and like I said I will try to figure this out again when I have not done the weights. In the glass half full I was maintaining a high 8 to low 9 min pace for a while.I cant express how freaking cool those hawks were.
Congratulations for sticking with it and "graduating" from 5Ks to 10Ks. As far as hydration goes, I never drink anything on runs lasting less than an hour. Usually I just drink a little water before I run, drink quite a bit when I finish, and call it good. Of course, I live up north and don't get the Florida experience, so maybe taking some water after 30 minutes or so would be a good idea in your case. You don't need sport drinks for these distances; water is fine. For socks, just wear whatever you're comfortable with. "Running socks" are nice, but they're not necessary by any means. It's much more important to wear technical fabrics for your shirt and shorts than it is for your socks. If you haven't already, it would be a good idea to spring for at least one good outfit -- a tech shirt and shorts with a liner. Those make a big difference versus a cotton t-shirt and basketball shorts. gruecd helped me out with a running playlist several months ago. I don't keep up on what's recent, and I got quite a few good ideas from his stuff.
Tell me a little about this. My calves are a friggin mess right now, and I can feel knots (mostly small, one big one down deep) in there that I try to work out myself. How do you find a good sports masseuse -- how long does the massage last and how much do they cost? I'm thinking I could really use one.Workhorse said:
Nice job on the run! I'm 41 and have been running with the 305 for every run since May. The max HR I've reached is 176, which came Sunday while sprinting a mile after running 7 at 7:33 pace. Before that it was 174. But my resting HR is 48. The most important thing is your HR reserve - the distance between resting and max. I've found this to be a good calculator.But I agree that HR isn't really all that meaningful. It gives you a good idea of how hard you're working and I've liked tracking how I'm now able to keep a lower HR compared to the same distance and pace in earlier months.
Hold up. You're a great guy, Ivan, but this is not a
.You definitely do not want to wear cotton socks. They're blisters waiting to happen. You want Coolmax or some other kind of synthetic, moisture-wicking fiber. This is a good article on the topic.
My wife found a place that's covered by insurance because they are affiliated with a chiropractor. I'm not a believer in chiro at all but this particular massage therapist works with the Atlanta Falcons and is terrific. All for a $35 co-pay.Sports massage ain't fun. There's no candles and spa music. It's basically a combination of someone digging into your muscles and stretching you out. I usually yelp in pain a number of times during it and have come close to tears on occasion. It hurts but it really helps me with flexibility and muscle recovery which are two ongoing problems in my running life.
Agreed, although I find the Balega's a bit overpriced. I usually run with the Nike Dri-Fits. You can usually pick up a pack of 3 for approx. $15 at ****'s. They also are arch-fitted and have support in the heel and toe areas. I'm a huge fan of them.Hold up. You're a great guy, Ivan, but this is not a
Personally, I wear Balega's Hidden Comfort. They're a little pricey, but go to Running Warehouse using this link, and you can get 15% off everything on the site, free 2-day shipping, free return shipping. I buy almost all my stuff there now.
Hold up. You're a great guy, Ivan, but this is not a
Personally, I wear Balega's Hidden Comfort. They're a little pricey, but go to Running Warehouse using this link, and you can get 15% off everything on the site, free 2-day shipping, free return shipping. I buy almost all my stuff there now.
here Gru. I would say that your socks are one of the more important pieces of gear you wear along with your shoes. You have to take care of your feet. They are your life blood for running. You can always run with bleeding nips or a little chaffing, but blisters in between your toes or between your heel and shoe and it will take you down for a bit.None of these things I mention are comfortable, but your feet are the foundation.
I pay $60 including tip for an hour-long massage, and I try to go monthly. But like Workhorse said, these are definitely not about candles and relaxing music.
Knees a little sore this AM, but I think they are doing better than they were the morning after the 15 miler last week. My body's already adapting I guess. I need to get new sneakers soon, that will probably help as well. At the same time I'll get the FFA Running Guy approved tech shorts and socks being discussed now, although I haven't had any problems with my cotton mesh shorts and cotton socks. I do wear a tech shirt on my long runs - it was a 5K race freebie.16 miles tonight at 9:02 pace. And now to bed.
Well, d'oh - lunge steps down the hotel hallway and back, or squats in your room. Add in a some push-ups for the upper body. Sid - we wish you luck!
